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klyall
20-10-2008, 09:56 PM
World Youth Vietnam - Vung Tau

The first round of the World Youth in Vung Tau Vietam began this afternoon at 3.00 pm local time.

The event seems to have been very well organised with many volunteers to make things easier for overseas guests.

We were met at the airport and greeted with a bouquet of flowers and fast tracked through customs.

Another group of volunteers waited with us until the bus arrived and helped us with our luggage - while giving us maps and bottled water - which was very welcome in the heat.

Results should be up on the website around 9.00 pm local time and pairings for tomorrow at a similar time.

A special thanks to the sponsers - the uniforms look terrific and other teams have commented on how smart they look.

Watto
21-10-2008, 08:28 AM
Here's a link to the official website. http://wycc2008.vietnamchess.com/index.php

Results are available from http://chess-results.com/tnr15980.aspx?lan=1

Best of luck to the Australian players. :)
http://chess-results.com/tnr15980.aspx?art=25&fedb=AUS&lan=1&flag=30&m=-1
Link above gives Australian team list and also their next round pairings and last round results.
For ease of reference... here's the list of Aussies:
Girls
Under 12 Byrne, Alannah
Under 12 Simmonds, Leteisha
Under 12 Kanagarajah, Abbie
Under 12 Mcewen Mason, Joanne
Under 12 Setiabudi, Megan
Under 12 Koh, Clarise
Under 14 Yu, Sally 1776
Under 16 Guo, Emma 1752

Open
Under 08 Wallmueller, Peter
Under 08 Smirnov, Anton
Under 10 Derwent, Ethan
Under 10 Ruan, Harry
Under 10 Mcewen Mason, Stuart
Under 10 Sannidhanam, Anurag 1751
Under 10 Koh, Cedric
Under 12 Liu, Yi
Under 12 Ruan, Jack
Under 12 Ng,Isaac 1584
Under 12 Tan, Justin 1873
Under 14 FM Nakauchi, Gene 2104
Under 14 Feng,Thomas 1610
Under 16 FM Morris, James 2087
Under 16 Brown, Andrew 2013
Under 16 Setiabudi, Allen 1865
Under 16 Muller, Jonas 1998
Under 18 Schon, Eugene 2066

There are also several NZ players so best of luck to them too (except when they're playing Australians... ;)):
Girls - NZ
Under 08 Zhu, Yadi (Judy)
Under 08 Qiu, Zhonghui (Katy)
Under 12 Tsoi, Nicole Wei Wah 1650
Under 18 WFM Maroroa, Sue Yuchan 1938

Open - NZ
Under 08 Yao, Winston Yow-Jen
Under 10 Zhu, Karl Kai
Under 12 Cheng, Bobby Sky 2088
Under 14 Shen, Chenyi (Daniel) 2044
Under 16 Dorofeev, Ivan Alexeevich

Davidflude
21-10-2008, 04:08 PM
I shall be watching results with great interest. Especially the bonzer kids I met at Ergas.

Ivanchuk_Fan
22-10-2008, 06:34 AM
The results for Round 2 are available on the afore-mentioned Chess-Results site.

To see the individual scores of the Australian representatives, go to http://chess-results.com/tnr15983.aspx?art=25&fedb=AUS&lan=1&flag=30&m=-1

Watto
22-10-2008, 08:50 AM
Nice wins for Emma Guo and Eugene Schon...

Davidflude
22-10-2008, 10:17 AM
Nice wins for Emma Guo and Eugene Schon...

Are the individual game scores available? If so how do I get them.

Thank you.

Davidflude
22-10-2008, 10:25 AM
You must be very busy with the tournament at the moment. Please pass on to players the best wishes from everyone at Box Hill.

If you get the time a short bulletin written on Sunday for the Box Hill newsletter
on Monday would be great. If you can do so please post it here and I will send it to Trevor.

It would be great if an article for Australasian Chess could be written dealing with both the Aussie and Kiwi teams at the conclusion of the tournament.

Watto
22-10-2008, 10:34 AM
Are the individual game scores available? If so how do I get them.

Thank you.
Sorry, David, my phrase ‘nice wins’ was a bit misleading. I meant nice results against higher rated opponents (not surprising but good to see.) ... I haven't seen the games.
I was wondering the same thing as you. Does anyone know whether the games are available?

joergw
22-10-2008, 10:44 AM
you will find the games here: http://chessasia.net/?page_id=336

regards,

Joerg

Watto
22-10-2008, 10:51 AM
you will find the games here: http://chessasia.net/?page_id=336

regards,

Joerg
Thanks Joerg!

Brian_Jones
22-10-2008, 11:54 AM
It would be great if an article for Australasian Chess could be written dealing with both the Aussie and Kiwi teams at the conclusion of the tournament.

Tibor is going to write something!

bergil
23-10-2008, 08:17 AM
Tibor is going to write something!Another book? :owned:

MichaelBaron
23-10-2008, 10:09 AM
I have a lot of confidence in Bobby Cheng who is playing for NZ. Hopefully, he will find his form and finish among the top scorers

Adamski
23-10-2008, 12:46 PM
I think Anton Smirnov is a chance in the Under 8's.

joergw
23-10-2008, 01:12 PM
I have a lot of confidence in Bobby Cheng who is playing for NZ. Hopefully, he will find his form and finish among the top scorers

Same for me. I was really surprised that he already gave away 1,5 points against lower rated/unrated opponents - this is really unusual for him. But the games are not yet available - I am curious to see them

Watto
23-10-2008, 01:15 PM
Same for me. I was really surprised that he already gave away 1,5 points against lower rated/unrated opponents - this is really unusual for him. But the games are not yet available - I am curious to see them
Yes, but in the U8s and even U10s a player’s FIDE rating (and especially lack of a rating) is surely almost meaningless. Will be interesting to see the games as you say though.

EDIT: Okay, Bobby's in the U12s, got confused for a minute, but I still think low or non-existent FIDE ratings can't be taken at face value at that age...

joergw
23-10-2008, 01:25 PM
Yes, but in the U8s and even U10s an opponent’s rating (or lack of a rating) is surely almost meaningless.

Bobby plays U12, and there the ratings become more reliable.

It is very interesting though that in the U12 there are two players, who have got a FM title but not FIDE rating??? Both are from Vietnam - strange.

Watto
23-10-2008, 01:33 PM
Bobby plays U12, and there the ratings become more reliable.

Yes, you are right of course. I realised that shortly after I wrote my post. I confused myself there for a minute. Still, it would be interesting to see what the national ratings of these low FIDE rated or unrated players are.

joergw
23-10-2008, 01:51 PM
Still, it would be interesting to see what the national ratings of these low FIDE rated or unrated players are.

The German Wagner Dennis (against whom Bobby lost) has got a national rating of 1850 (and recently got "only" 8th at the German U12 championships). So quite a surprise - especially after the consistent level of high chess performance which Bobby demonstrated the last 6 month.

But it needs to be mentioned that the conditions are different to usual tournaments:
- all 800+ kids play in one big hall - you can imagine the noise level
- the arbiters don't prevent parents and coaches to be in the playing area while the games are going on - that brings even more distraction
- there is no air condition, so the temperature and humidity is virtually unbearable

Although the conditions are the same for everyone, it will be harder for some kids to cope with that situation.

Miranda
23-10-2008, 04:32 PM
Yeah, it would be, specially if you've come from a country like Aus that's just had a freezing cold winter!

MichaelBaron
23-10-2008, 08:00 PM
I think Anton Smirnov is a chance in the Under 8's.

Yes Smirnov as well...but all of the older auzzie kids are just chess tourists.

MichaelBaron
23-10-2008, 08:02 PM
The German Wagner Dennis (against whom Bobby lost) has got a national rating of 1850 (and recently got "only" 8th at the German U12 championships). So quite a surprise - especially after the consistent level of high chess performance which Bobby demonstrated the last 6 month.

But it needs to be mentioned that the conditions are different to usual tournaments:
- all 800+ kids play in one big hall - you can imagine the noise level
- the arbiters don't prevent parents and coaches to be in the playing area while the games are going on - that brings even more distraction
- there is no air condition, so the temperature and humidity is virtually unbearable

Although the conditions are the same for everyone, it will be harder for some kids to cope with that situation.

Still, I believe in Bobby! Ever since he completely crushed me in a nice style!

joergw
23-10-2008, 09:39 PM
Games of rounds 2-4 are now online.
Bobby lost with a Sicilian - doesn't he usually play French as black?

Ninja
23-10-2008, 10:10 PM
Yes Smirnov as well...but all of the older auzzie kids are just chess tourists.
Would have thought that Emma and Eugene in particular are doing a touch better than your average tourist.

Name Guo Emma
Starting rank 49
Rating international 1752
Ratingperformance 2169
Rank 16

Name Schon Eugene
Starting rank 60
Rating international 2066
Ratingperformance 2317
Rank 39

:clap: :clap: :clap:

MichaelBaron
24-10-2008, 01:30 AM
Would have thought that Emma and Eugene in particular are doing a touch better than your average tourist.

Name Guo Emma
Starting rank 49
Rating international 1752
Ratingperformance 2169
Rank 16

Name Schon Eugene
Starting rank 60
Rating international 2066
Ratingperformance 2317
Rank 39

:clap: :clap: :clap:
Yep well done!:clap: too early to look at the performance ratings though after 4 rounds

Watto
24-10-2008, 08:25 AM
Emma Guo had another win in the U16 girls. :clap: Has a tough round 6 game with Black against WFM Pon N Krithika IND 2191, on board 5.

Good luck to all the Australian and New Zealand players for round 6!

Vlad
24-10-2008, 11:10 AM
But it needs to be mentioned that the conditions are different to usual tournaments:
- all 800+ kids play in one big hall - you can imagine the noise level
- the arbiters don't prevent parents and coaches to be in the playing area while the games are going on - that brings even more distraction
- there is no air condition, so the temperature and humidity is virtually unbearable

Although the conditions are the same for everyone, it will be harder for some kids to cope with that situation.

Comparing to the last year, conditions are probably better. There are 2 halls where kids are playing. Under 18 open/girls and under 16 boys are playing in a separate hall.

The organizers put restrictions that only a head of delegation can be in the playing area and they seem to enforce them now.

There is airconditioning in the playing hall and the conditions where the kids are playing are actually quite good. Parents are sitting higher and it is a little bit hot there.

In yesterday's game Anton got to play a Russian champion (people from the Russian delegation described him as one of the two strongest russian kids in the under 8, they both shared 1 in the Russian championship which consisted of 250+ swiss). Before the game one of the Russian coaches told me: "I am sorry but your son is gonna lose today."

I have to admit that Anton got very-very lucky. First I guessed the opening and after 10 moves he was a pawn up. Then the other boy fighted fiercely and managed to equalize, even got winning position (rybka was assessing it as +3). They got into a tactical fight and the Russian boy blundered badly.

He was very unlucky. In round 3 he was paired against the other Russian champion and they fighted for more than 3 hours to end up in a draw. Same day they played another game (round 4) where they both lost, I guess both were too tired. In round 5 he got Anton and it seems he still was not recovered enough from the previous day.

joergw
24-10-2008, 12:02 PM
Thanks for the clarification.

Good on Anton - great performance so far (I liked how he played his first two games).
Promising position - good luck for the next games!

Ivanchuk_Fan
26-10-2008, 11:05 AM
All games from Rounds 1-6 are now online at the ChessASIA website: http://chessasia.net/?page_id=336. However, the board window displaying the games still does not work, and so far there aren't any PGN files with the games.

In Round 6, Bobby beat a Croatian 1921 to emerge as the highest-scoring Australian/New Zealand player on 4.5/6 and in =7th place.

Anurag won his last two games in a row in the U10 division to reach a score of 4/6 and =13th place.

On 3.5/6 is Anton, who is currently in =21st place, Jack, with a performance rating of 1878 and =26th, and Emma, in =17th place with a performance rating of 2134.

There are also brief tournament reports for the World Youth at www.chessdom.com (http://www.chessdom.com).

Davidflude
27-10-2008, 12:39 PM
Antoinette Ziffer sends her best wishes to Yi Liu. Please could you pass them on.

David

klyall
28-10-2008, 12:34 AM
Hi David

Shall send message to Yi - please tell Antoinette his games have been going very late - but he is very cheerful and seems to be enjoying himself - as are the other Aussie players.

There were lots of wins this evening - so dinner was a cheerful event - after the many losses yesterday evening.

Kerry

bobby1972
28-10-2008, 02:00 PM
bobby is 1 point behind ,scary i mean 1 point man in the world junior very big very very big.

Davidflude
28-10-2008, 02:35 PM
Anurag is doing best of the Australians. He is improving all the time.

Bobby Cheng is the best of the Kiwis.

The two players ahead of him are both black. But Bobby is black. We will just have to see what happens.

Ivanchuk_Fan
29-10-2008, 01:54 PM
Round 9 Results:

Bobby Cheng lost to a 2206-rated Indian, but still remains in contention for a strong placing on 6/9.

Jack Ruan is Australia's new top scorer on 5.5/9, defeating a 1942-rated player from Mongolia. On 5/9 are Anurag, Yi (beat an 1869 French player) and Anton (drew with the top seed in his division, rated 1847).

MichaelBaron
29-10-2008, 02:54 PM
Let me repeat myself - Bobby is the brightest hope for the Australaisian chess in years to come!:clap:

Anton is another team member with potentially bright future

Adamski
30-10-2008, 04:05 PM
Round 9 Results:

Bobby Cheng lost to a 2206-rated Indian, but still remains in contention for a strong placing on 6/9.

Jack Ruan is Australia's new top scorer on 5.5/9, defeating a 1942-rated player from Mongolia. On 5/9 are Anurag, Yi (beat an 1869 French player) and Anton (drew with the top seed in his division, rated 1847).Claps to all those players named. All the best for a big finish to both Australasian teams.

Ivanchuk_Fan
30-10-2008, 07:54 PM
Round 11 games concluded just over an hour ago.

Final scores (AUS and NZL players):

7.0/11 Cheng (final ranking: 15th), Sannidhanam (final ranking: 18th)
6.5 J.Ruan
6 Tsoi, Smirnov
5.5 Qiu, H.Ruan, Tan, Liu, Morris
5 J.Zhu, Ce.Koh, Nakauchi, Schon, M.Setiabudi, Yu, Yao Winston, Wallmueller
4.5 Derwent, Byrne, Kanagarajah, Guo
4 S.Mason, Ng, Shen, Muller, A.Setiabudi, Cl.Koh, J.Mason, Simmonds, Maroroa
3.5 K.Zhu, Brown
1.5 Dorofeev

Four players achieved performance ratings over 1900 FIDE: Emma Guo (PFR 1917), Jack Ruan (PFR 1949), James Morris (PFR 2094) and Eugene Schon (PFR 2148).

ER
30-10-2008, 10:06 PM
Very good boys and girls!
You 've made us proud!!!
Cheers and good luck!

Miranda
30-10-2008, 10:23 PM
Yeah, they did pretty well!

MichaelBaron
31-10-2008, 01:15 AM
Well .... :hmm: :clap: they did their best!

And as for Bobby, next year - I am sure he will come back home with a medal!

Rincewind
31-10-2008, 09:28 AM
Very good boys and girls!
You 've made us proud!!!
Cheers and good luck!

Hear hear.

Adamski
31-10-2008, 09:41 AM
Well done all the Aus and NZ reps. Anton, our club is proud of your performance. I suspect your dad is too!

bobby1972
31-10-2008, 03:09 PM
michael such encouragement for our players incredible.

MichaelBaron
31-10-2008, 03:35 PM
michael such encouragement for our players incredible.

Yes, I know...i am not as positive as some others :)

peter_parr
03-11-2008, 12:22 PM
See SMH for coverage..

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