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jeffrei
26-06-2004, 05:36 PM
I wonder if the time may have come to look at a permanent home for the Australian Open/Championship? Not necessarily a specific building, but at least a city or region.

1.
Although I have some sympathy for the argument that the Australian Open/Championships should be in a fixed location, I recognize that there are strong counter-arguments (e.g. some ‘chess tourists’ enjoy seeing a different location every year). What I really don’t understand is why we have the Australian Schools Championships in a different location every year. The event only goes one weekend during the school term, so it’s not as though the majority of attendees will have any opportunity for sightseeing. I think it’d make a lot more sense to have a permanent venue for the tournament in Canberra and just have always have it there. Leaving aside the question of whether the right sort of venue could be found and whether organizers would be willing to take on the tournament, it seems to me that this would be a good solution – for one thing it’d help ensure some continuity in the way the event gets run. Also it’s convenient from a geographic point-of-view. I realize that there is no appropriate city in Australia that is truly ‘central’, but Canberra is surely the nearest thing.

2.
More than once I’ve heard the suggestion that Australian junior chess needs a sharply-defined ‘elite’ tournament and a sharply-defined ‘mass-participation’ tournament. I’m of the opinion that the ‘elite’ event should be the Australian Junior Championships (no, that doesn’t mean that it needs to be as puny as it currently is), and that the main mass-participation event(s) should be the interschool competitions within states. All the same, I wonder why serious consideration has never been given to the idea of letting the top two teams from each state represent at the Australian Schools Championships, instead of just the top team. It really seems that schools/parents/kids have a tough time saying no to the Schools tournament...not even putting the Schools tournament in WA in the middle of January could make a dent in its popularity! Why don’t we try to exploit this fact and get more kids involved?

pax
28-06-2004, 01:58 PM
I'm sure Perth will be thrilled with that idea. Why not go the whole way, and make the permanent venue Alice Springs?

george
28-06-2004, 02:05 PM
To Jeffrei,

The idea of having two teams from each state/territory was advanced for the Schools Final this year to be held ??

The ACF Council decided that the current situation of having one team from each state in each category would stand with the exception of the home state/territory which could field a second team in any or all categories but only to avoid a bye situation.

Regards
George Howard
ACF President

jeffrei
28-06-2004, 03:20 PM
The idea of having two teams from each state/territory was advanced for the Schools Final this year to be held ?? The ACF Council decided that the current situation of having one team from each state in each category would stand with the exception of the home state/territory which could field a second team in any or all categories but only to avoid a bye situation.

Well, I suggested it at the parents/coaches meeting which occurred at the last Australian Schools Championships. Independent of me I've also heard Robert Jamieson advocating the exact same idea.

I know that David Cordover originally planned to have a 'free for all' Australian Schools Championships in Mount Buller where no qualification was required at all. My suggestion doesn't really bear any relation to that...I'm just pointing out that there is usually more than one good school within a state, and it might be useful to double the number of kids we have involved in this event!

jeffrei
28-06-2004, 03:29 PM
I'm sure Perth will be thrilled with that idea. Why not go the whole way, and make the permanent venue Alice Springs?

While Alice Spings may be geographically central, it's not central to Australia's population and it's even less central to Australia's population of chessplaying schoolkids.

I don't see that Perth would lose out especially badly. Assuming the schools tournament gets run on the cycle Perth-Adelaide-Melbourne-Canberra-Sydney-Brisbane, they still end up catching a plane 5 times out of 6 anyway. When schools chess begins to catch on in Tasmania they'll end up doing it 6 times out of 7! Besides, if tournaments like this are run properly they can generate a profit. It might be possible to arrange some kind of proportional transportation subsidy for representatives not living in Canberra (i.e. WAliens would get the most, NSWpersons the least).

Kevin Bonham
28-06-2004, 03:29 PM
This [EDIT: the two team system] was thrashed out a lot in Council when David put it up as his replacement after it was obvious his free-for-all proposal was being strongly opposed.

The only real dangers of the two-team system I can see are:

* if you've got only a small number of states sending second teams you could end up with, say, 9 teams for a 6 round swiss, which can lead to some pretty odd Swiss draws at the end of the event.

* it increases the risk of collusion between teams from the same state.

EDIT PS - Permanent home sounds OK to me.

jeffrei
28-06-2004, 03:31 PM
I must say this thread has been overshadowed by more dramatic events over the last few days. Nonetheless, I KNOW there are lots of regular posters on this board who know a lot more about the Schools tournament than me, or who generally have an opinion about these sort of things. Please come forth with your $0.02! Mr Rout, would you agree that if moving the Australian Open/Championships to a permanent location is a good idea, moving the Australian Schools Championships to a permanent location is surely an even better one?

jeffrei
28-06-2004, 03:44 PM
* if you've got only a small number of states sending second teams you could end up with, say, 9 teams for a 6 round swiss, which can lead to some pretty odd Swiss draws at the end of the event.

Well, I'd hope that we could get more than 9 teams! At the absolute least you could make that figure into 10 by chucking in a local team to eliminate the bye. I think that if the event was consistently well-run in the same place by the same people, near-complete representation could be achieved year-in year-out. Consider that at the last Schools Championship in Perth we had a full complement of teams in the Open Secondary, Girls Primary and Girls Secondary. Bizarrely we were missing a Open Primary team from SA, but that was surely an aberration - from my experience at state level I think that Open Primary is the most popular division. Realistically I reckon that under this proposed system you'll always end up operating with either a 12-team tournament or a 10-team tournament.

I was thinking that it'd be better to lower the time-limit of the tournament from 30 mins to 15 mins (maybe with a 5 second increment), and use the extra rounds to have a round-robin. This makes sense since the state interschool tournaments seem to be almost invariably conducted at 15mins/game. The idea of increasing the time-limit at national level is presumably designed to facilitate better play. From my experience there I'm just not convinced that it's worth it - an awful lot of the kids seem to finish in about 10 minutes anyway! I think they'd get better practice from playing a few more games at a slightly shorter time-limit.



* it increases the risk of collusion between teams from the same state.
This is a valid concern, but not a terribly serious one in my books. We can't go in assuming that people are going to cheat, and in any case we often have two teams from the home state in order to fill out the numbers. I think you'd be more likely to see individual players throwing games in a normal tournament than to see kids throwing games in a teams event, where you've got things like school pride to consider - not to mention the teachers looking over your shoulder! What would be really problematic is if we had two teams from the same school representing. It'd probably be best to fix it so that one school can only send a maximum of one team in each division.

PS: Does anyone know the history of how the 30-minute timelimit came to be adopted? Were state interschools also conducted at this timelimit once upon at time?

Ian Rout
28-06-2004, 03:55 PM
Mr Rout, would you agree that if moving the Australian Open/Championships to a permanent location is a good idea, moving the Australian Schools Championships to a permenent location is surely an even better one?
I don't know enough about the event or about schools chess in general to say better, but I'd agree that similar logic applies. The one concern some might have is that the enthusiasm base could turn around more rapidly. But then I think "permanent" would mean continuing rather than irrevocably for all time.

jay_vee
28-06-2004, 04:15 PM
* it increases the risk of collusion between teams from the same state.


If you pair the teams from the same state against each other in the first round, this would not be a serious problem.

Kevin Bonham
28-06-2004, 04:26 PM
Well, I'd hope that we could get more than 9 teams! At the absolute least you could make that figure into 10 by chucking in a local team to fill out the numbers.

That's true. If you're flexible about it and allow time to have either 6 or 7 rounds then 8 is a 7-player round robin and 9 plus a spare team is a 6-round Swiss for 10 teams, which isn't awful.

Also Tas could be back in the running sometime soon, which will increase the number of teams if it happens. TCA had an offer from Chess Kids to run our currently moribund schools comp, which we accepted (subject to various conditions). It'll be interesting to see what (if anything) comes of it.


I was thinking that it'd be better to lower the time-limit of the tournament from 30 mins to 15 mins (maybe with a 5 second increment), and use the extra rounds to have a round-robin.

That sounds OK to me for primary. Not sure about secondary.


The idea of increasing the time-limit at national level is presumably designed to facilitate better play. From my experience there I'm just not convinced that it's worth it - a lot of the kids seem to finish in about 10 minutes anyway! I think they'd get better practice from playing a few more games at a slightly shorter time-limit.

Call me a hopeless optimist but I've always hoped that if you gave kids decent time for their games some of their coaches might twig to the idea of teaching them to use it effectively. Rarely seems to happen though. I was so pleased (and surprised) when I saw one of our young juniors actually use 50 mins of a G60 to beat her compulsively blitzing brother who outrated her by 300 points.


This is a valid concern, but not a terribly serious one in my books.

I was thinking of the suspected collusion case in the Asian Teams Champs as one recent example.


I think you'd be more likely to see individual players throwing games in a normal tournament than to see kids throwing games in a teams event, where you've got other things like school pride to consider - not to mention the teachers looking over your shoulder!

I'd certainly hope teachers would put state parochialism aside. I agree throwing's more likely in individual tournaments, I've seen that in junior events a few times.

Kevin Bonham
28-06-2004, 04:30 PM
If you pair the teams from the same state against each other in the first round, this would not be a serious problem.

Excellent idea. Problem solved.

Oepty
28-06-2004, 04:50 PM
Having two teams from the one school would seem to be a high probablity from SA secondary competition. St Peters is far and away the strongest chess school in SA, there teams finished 1st, 2nd and equal third last year and I would not be surprised if something similar happens this year. Also regarding the lack of a primary school team last year I seem to remember the team withdrew very late and there was no time to organise a replacement.
Scott

jenni
28-06-2004, 05:46 PM
Jeffrei

You did raise the issue of two teams per division at the parents and coaches meeting in Perth. There was some support for this but the majority wanted it left the way it is. Cordover wanted this for Mt Buller and there has been some fairly robust discussion on the matter. Basically the majority of states wanted it left with one team only. (With the host state putting in a second if necessary).

While I think it is more than possible to get 2 teams per state in some divisions, it would be all but impossible in others and so the scenario of having a comp with numbers that are too big for a round robin, but too small for a swiss draw is distincly possible. Perth did not have a full complement, as the ACT was missing a Girls High Schools. There have been times when only 4 teams have competed in the Girls High Schools.

Now that Perth has experienced the schools comp, it will be interesting to see whether they will send teams apart from the open High Schools. If not we will definitely be looking at small numbers of teams in some divisions.

Many people felt that a round robin was as fair as you could get and had no desire to move away from this.

I think you are correct - the fact that so many school teams were prepared to make the trip to WA is very exciting. However to me the most exciting thing is the large number of school teams that are competing at the grass roots level. Wouldn't it be really exciting if Victoria could get the 8,000 children competing that NSW has?

The history of the time controls - it is not 30 minutes and never has been.

Grame Gardiner picked a time control for the first ASCC in 1998. There was an extensive debate about the time controls. Digitals were very new then and many people were not using them and were not used to time increments. The ACT propsed using 15 minutes, as that was what our schools comp ran on and many others as well. South Australia ran theirs at 45 minutes. There was a vote on the issue. There were 3 votes in favour of 15 mins (me, Jeff Suptut and another random person). Everyone else voted in favour of long time controls. 40 min plus 10 sec for the primary and 55 minutes + 10 secs for high schools.

I have to admit I have become a convert to the longer time controls as it has had an enormous impact on improving the quality of the chess played by juniors in the ACT.

We still have our schools comp as 15 min games - for the majority of kids that is all you want and you want mass participation and fairly lightweight chess. However we have a rule that the top 2 teams at the finals can go inot the playoff. Also any team with 2 ACF rated players can challenge to go into the playoff. The playoffs are run at the same time controls as the ASCC.

We have found over time that a team that wants to "prepare " for the playoff will start playing at an adult club. Both in order to get a rating so that they qualify to challenge and also to improve their "long" time control ability. If we had the schools comp as 15 min, we would lose the necessity for children to make the next "step". Part of the reason why the ACT has so many ACF rated juniors, is because of this policy. Some of these juniors have gone on to become really good players.

I really don't know why we have to try and turn the ASCC into a different animal. It is working really well the way it is - parents, coaches and schools seem to be pretty happy with it. However that is not to say that your idea isn't good. I said this to Cordover many times - I can see that a big schools comp could be a great idea. Maybe having smaller teams - perhaps pairs? Would certainly make it easier to get some really strong combinations in all divisions. Allow a large number in each division - or what about having a year 3/4 divison, year 5/6, year 7/8 etc. This one could be run at 15 min chess.

Thus we would have 2 different schools comps, catering for different types of chess. One would be small and elite and requiring high levels of skill. The other big and fast and furious with the sort of chess that probably appeals to more school kids - just needs someone to start it. I think it is always dangerous to take a successful format and say - Ok rather than do the hard work of establising a new comp, I'll just take this other one and turn it into what I would like to see. you often end up with something that no-one is happy with. Rather leave the successful one alone and start the new format and end up with two different, but equally succesful comps.

Rincewind
28-06-2004, 06:18 PM
Excellent idea. Problem solved.

I believe this was the solution implemented to help prevent collusion between soviet players in the zonals and interzonals. I believe Fischer was involved so it would probably have sometime in the late-60's early-70's. Perhaps someone remembers the details better than I.

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 07:35 PM
NSW have some very strong teams.
BEWARE.:evil:

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 08:48 PM
NSW have some very strong teams.
BEWARE.:evil:

Obviously you haven't looked anywhere beyond NSW :D Is someone going to enlighten him? I do not wish to be too rude. :eek: Sorry Aran, I just had to say it.

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 09:31 PM
Hey you haven't been playing competition chess that long to enlighten me. I am well aware of other states having strong teams. If you look at the stats, however, you notice that NSW teams often win.

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 10:52 PM
Hey you haven't been playing competition chess that long to enlighten me. I am well aware of other states having strong teams. If you look at the stats, however, you notice that NSW teams often win.

haha well ^_^ you know what.. NSW teams don't actually often win...... ^_^ Have you noticed since Sydney Grammar lost their powerhouses NSW hasn't really produced any junior stars at all, with of course the exception to Max Illingworth.

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 10:57 PM
What are you talking about?
NSWJCL has 10 people now rated above 1000+ out of a total 40.
That shows NSW is getting better. Max Illingworth is number 2 junior in Australia. Besides, NSW is going to get better in a couple of years. Imagine sean GU at 16. He'll be pro. Think of all the younger juniors coming up. NSW chess is almost at its peak.

Yeah fide master.
How many more to IM?

Jerry,
Max Illingworth doesn't play school chess.

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 11:00 PM
What are you talking about?
NSWJCL has 10 people now rated above 1000+ out of a total 40.
That shows NSW is getting better. Max Illingworth is number 2 junior in Australia. Besides, NSW is going to get better in a couple of years. Imagine sean GU at 16. He'll be pro. Think of all the younger juniors coming up. NSW chess is almost at its peak.

Ah sigh....

Have you looked at the Vic juniors.. SA juniors... ACT juniors... ^_^ and you wanna take a look at John Pap's ACF rating.. or even our current NSW Junior Champion.. Peng's rating... 1600?.... Vic's school team last year's bottom board was 1800... well I don't need to say more...

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 11:01 PM
Jerry,
Max Illingworth doesn't play school chess.

That doesn't matter... apart from max.. no other juniors in NSW are actually good. By good I mean ACF 1800+

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 11:03 PM
WTH, Victorias top team St Ignatius aren't very strong. Like average 1500.

Oh who gives a crap about ratings. If you look at the ACF ratings list 20% of the ratings are dubious.

Upsets happen
i.e England beats Australia in the ashes.

Peng Yu is underrated.
ACF wise. If you convert his JCl rating it's like 1800

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 11:08 PM
WTH, Victorias top team St Ignatius aren't very strong. Like average 1500.

WAAAHHHHH?????
...... you have no idea about the SUPREME POWER of Vic juniors.. Eugene... Wilson... err... who esle.. Chris Wallis... IM Morris... xD can you guys please demonstrate to him your powers... so he can shut up?...

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 11:08 PM
My dad used to be 2000 but now even I can beat him.

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 11:08 PM
Peng Yu is underrated.
ACF wise. If you convert his JCl rating it's like 1800

I just said a minute ago who cares about JCL ratings...
xD
and you don't know how to convert mate!... Vlad! A little help?


My dad used to be 2000 but now even I can beat him.

Aww who's your dad? ^_^ .... your dad's 2000 in another Federation I think

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 11:10 PM
Who gives a crap. Most of the top rated players aren't in the best school.
Max Illingworth is in some random school. William Xu's team got knocked out by Cranbrook.

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 11:11 PM
Who gives a crap. Most of the top rated players aren't in the best school.
Max Illingworth is in some random school. William Xu's team got knocked out by Cranbrook.

go check on the JCL magazine.. the one where the aussie school champs were held... guess who won that.. guess which team dominated and finished 19.5/20?.... xD nooooo Aran its not Syd Grammar.. its Scotchs... VIC...

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 11:11 PM
He got his rating in Zimbabwe. My point is it's easy to get high ratings in places that have generally weak players. The tournaments are weaker. Except for the top boards so the top playes just keep playing each other.

Your team might make the finals why are you putting NSW down so much.

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 11:13 PM
He got his rating in Zimbabwe. My point is it's easy to get high ratings in places that have generally weak players.

that explains.. it ALL... well do you think Aus is a weak chess country?.. well fine compared to russia's mountain of GMs yes.. but... seriously..


Your team might make the finals why are you putting NSW down so much.

i'm not putting nsw down.... it's just vic is currently outclassing us... by 2 classes.. not one

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 11:14 PM
Well NSW has produced more stronger players than any other state so we have to have the best junior program

A positive attitude is important. Don't you want to win?

Man, if you guys keep this attitude there is no way you'll win.

NSB probably won't get past Knox with this sort of attitude.

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 11:17 PM
Well NSW has produced more stronger players than any other state so we have to have the best junior program

??... gets your information up to date.... Knox is not filled with 2100s... and lol I do have a positive attitude.. I know I can probably just begin challenging to 4th bd, as for winning.. unless miracle steps in.. probably not

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 11:17 PM
no response. I win.

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 11:18 PM
no response. I win.

no response I see..

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 11:18 PM
Zong yuan-zhao. George Xie. Ian Rogers. etc.
How is NSW not the best.

cadd1ct
24-08-2009, 11:19 PM
Zong yuan-zhao. George Xie. Ian Rogers. etc.
How is NSW not the best.

we're talking about the juniors here

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 11:23 PM
raymond song

wait let me do some research.

ok fine you may have a points.
stuff that topic

i want to one day go to an international event

My aim is to get to 2000 fide and higher.

wow 80 posts. How many needed for IM?

Vlad
24-08-2009, 11:28 PM
Jerry,

I think you do need a positive attitude.:) Who do you think will dominate the under 12 group in 6 months?

aransandraseg
24-08-2009, 11:33 PM
Tell Marco to come back to Trinity.

Sean Gu is looking good. Anton probably won't play anymore junior chess.

far out. If you guys didnt buy Marco we would own you.

I'm thinking of changing schools. I am going to apply for some other schools.

Wait?! Drug, who are you?

shit drug has 900+ posts.

I want to get as many posts as I can get.

Jerry what are you doing right now? I should be studying the chem. we do. My teacher is mad. He sets us year 11/12 chemistry. Marco is lucky cause he doesn't have to put up with this.

83 posts? why am I going backwards.

Who do you think is going to win Anand or Topalov?

Who do you think is going to win Anand or Topalov?
crap I've been banned.

huh I'm not banned on this thread for some reason.
reason for being banned: "enough with the one line ..."

Kevin Bonham
24-08-2009, 11:44 PM
huh I'm not banned on this thread for some reason.
reason for being banned: "enough with the one line ..."

Looks like a mod briefly banned you to give you a warning about making lots of pointless one-line posts to drive your postcount up, and then unbanned you once he hoped you'd got the message.

If you have lots of things to say at once that are relevant to a single thread you should generally say them in one post on that thread.

Deliberately posting lots of one-line posts when there is no need to do so is not allowed here.

cadd1ct
25-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Jerry,

I think you do need a positive attitude.:) Who do you think will dominate the under 12 group in 6 months?

I didn't say I'm not going to try to win... eshh vlad your 2300... leave me alone...

Oepty
25-08-2009, 10:03 PM
NSW is having a less success period of producing top juniors, but the next generation of juniors is looking very strong and in a couple of years I expect a large number of the top juniors to come from NSW.
The current top 20 under 18 players contains 1 from NSW, Max Illingworth, compared to 7 from VIC, 5 from ACT, 4 from QLD and 1 from SA, WA and TAS.
On the other hand the under 12 list contains 8 from NSW, 4 from VIC, 4 from QLD, 1 from ACT, SA, WA and TAS.
Quite a difference.
Scott

ChessGuru
25-08-2009, 10:18 PM
On the other hand the under 12 list contains 8 from NSW, 4 from VIC, 4 from QLD, 1 from ACT, SA, WA and TAS.
Quite a difference.

Ahh, but don't forget that Victorians improve faster so looking at u/12 list is not really reflective of what is going to happen in the future. :D

Oepty
25-08-2009, 10:20 PM
Ahh, but don't forget that Victorians improve faster so looking at u/12 list is not really reflective of what is going to happen in the future. :D

Proof of this statement would be good.
Scott

ChessGuru
25-08-2009, 10:41 PM
Proof of this statement would be good.
We are further south...it's just common sense.

Certain things don't need proof... Black pawns move faster than White. Victorian juniors are better than NSW. It's just the way it's always been.

Vlad
25-08-2009, 10:48 PM
On the other hand the under 12 list contains 8 from NSW, 4 from VIC, 4 from QLD, 1 from ACT, SA, WA and TAS.
Quite a difference.
Scott

Not only that. If you only consider juniors eligible to play in the under 12 in Hobart, that is remove all juniors who have 11 next to their name, you will notice that the top 5 in the under 12 are all from NSW. The only junior who is comparable to these 5 is Anurag from Victoria, everybody else is significantly lower rated. I do not think historically that has ever happened before.

Anyway, I just wanted to cheer up Jerry. :D

aransandraseg
26-08-2009, 06:31 PM
jerry.
You there?
We got Sydney grammar tommorow.

I meant day after woops.
FRIDAY

drug.
Who are you in real life?

cadd1ct
26-08-2009, 06:36 PM
Not only that. If you only consider juniors eligible to play in the under 12 in Hobart, that is remove all juniors who have 11 next to their name, you will notice that the top 5 in the under 12 are all from NSW. The only junior who is comparable to these 5 is Anurag from Victoria, everybody else is significantly lower rated. I do not think historically that has ever happened before.

Anyway, I just wanted to cheer up Jerry. :D

I don't feel sad when I play strong players.... the way I was pumping my fist in the air when I got to play John Pap in the fun 2 day, I wanted to beat him because apparently he is a strong player ^_^ funnily because I ended up winning... :P Now if our school reps NSW, I'll be very happy to play the 4th bd of the Vic team.. last year apparently it was Derek.. but I don't know for this year.. as for Aran.. sigh he doesn't know much.. so I won't blame him..

Vlad
26-08-2009, 06:47 PM
Yes, that is the way to go... You should be looking for strong players and should be putting the maximum effort to crash them. Imagine what it will feel like if your team will come there and will win even though your opponents are higher rated by at least 400 points on every board.

cadd1ct
26-08-2009, 08:26 PM
Yes, that is the way to go... You should be looking for strong players and should be putting the maximum effort to crash them. Imagine what it will feel like if your team will come there and will win even though your opponents are higher rated by at least 400 points on every board.

haha xD ive gotten excited everytime I had to play a good player.. the only time I got scared was when I had to play Anton! :owned:

Lynx
27-08-2009, 12:57 PM
Does anybody have any information on the 2009 School Chess Teams Championships? Venue, dates? From what I know, they are going to be in Melbourne in beginning of December. Could anybody, in the ACF maybe, give more detailed info? :hmm:

Bill Gletsos
27-08-2009, 02:46 PM
Does anybody have any information on the 2009 School Chess Teams Championships? Venue, dates? From what I know, they are going to be in Melbourne in beginning of December. Could anybody, in the ACF maybe, give more detailed info? :hmm:It is organised by the AusJCL and not the ACF.

aransandraseg
27-08-2009, 03:42 PM
jerry
i'll play you in correspondance chess.

cadd1ct
27-08-2009, 04:31 PM
jerry
i'll play you in correspondance chess.

err how about no.

aransandraseg
27-08-2009, 04:34 PM
fine.
I guess that means you admit NSW beats all other states.
Either settle it the way intellectuals do (chess) or concede defeat.

Really,
I couldn't give a crap about that stupid debate but I have been studying chess quite a bit recently and want to see if I have improved.

cadd1ct
27-08-2009, 04:38 PM
fine.
I guess that means you admit NSW beats all other states.
Either settle it the way intellectuals do (chess) or concede defeat.

Really,
I couldn't give a crap about that stupid debate but I have been studying chess quite a bit recently and want to see if I have improved.

how does saying no to your correspondance match admit that NSW beats other states?.. that doesn't sense

aransandraseg
27-08-2009, 04:42 PM
I know it doesn't but I am still right.
NSW Juniors rule.
Go onto Weng Siow-lees blog and see the ratings in the U18 tournaments.
There crap.
You think you know so much so why don't you prove it in a game of chess.:D

Lynx
27-08-2009, 05:03 PM
It is organised by the AusJCL and not the ACF.
Then, what this thread is about? The thread title is " Australian Schools Championships", isn't it?

Kevin Bonham
27-08-2009, 05:10 PM
Then, what this thread is about? The thread title is " Australian Schools Championships", isn't it?

This is an old thread started several years ago in the days when the ACF ran the competition. This old thread has been recently restarted by some posters; there is a new one here (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=10341).

I will probably move some posts around to reduce the confusion.

cadd1ct
27-08-2009, 05:19 PM
I know it doesn't but I am still right.
NSW Juniors rule.
Go onto Weng Siow-lees blog and see the ratings in the U18 tournaments.
There crap.
You think you know so much so why don't you prove it in a game of chess.:D

Knowing Vic jnrs are stronger doesn't deserve the comment you think you know alot... it's common sense... ^_^ check the ACF ratings and tournament performance ratings, if that doesn't comvince you check the 2008 Australian Schools Championships.... we finished 2nd... 7 points behind of 1st...
sigh...
Also you said NSW jnrs rule... and then you say the ratings in the U18 tournaments are crap.. what are u on about.
ok I'll play you next time I see you... ^_^ not on correspondence... who knows if you have computer engines or not.

aransandraseg
27-08-2009, 07:33 PM
Alright.
Next tournaments.
:)

Mischa
27-08-2009, 11:46 PM
Alright.
Next tournaments.
:)
there is an art or rather a knack to flying..the knack being to throw yourself at the ground and aim to miss

peteryang
28-08-2009, 06:52 PM
hey jerry what do u mean by playing for VIC board 4?


ur on the NSB team lol.

btw tell me if u find out when the nsw qualifiers are.

cadd1ct
28-08-2009, 06:58 PM
hey jerry what do u mean by playing for VIC board 4?


ur on the NSB team lol.

btw tell me if u find out when the nsw qualifiers are.

Lol i wish I was good enough for that... umm I actually don't know.. maybe ask Rich :)

Tan the Bdx Man
27-02-2010, 08:57 PM
So when might news of this years Nationals Schools Teams Championship come out