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Volver
28-07-2008, 11:22 AM
from the start e3, e5
Ne2, Black resigns

I was told that black had no chance of winning after those 3 moves. I can't figure out the following moves needed to checkmate black at no false.

Spiny Norman
28-07-2008, 11:51 AM
If you're talking about starting from a normal starting position, then 1.e3 e5 2.Ne2 is a quite unremarkable effort from White and there's absolutely no reason Black would resign.

Zwischenzug
28-07-2008, 11:53 AM
Of course, it could also mean that black couldn't be bothered with the game and resigned.

Volver
28-07-2008, 11:59 AM
I'm having a hard time believing that black should resign also, but I was told that this move was made in a game vs the 2 best chess player in the world. Unless my friend lied or had it wrong, but he sounded pretty serious to me. He said it was like a 7 move checkmate or close to that. He didn't remember how it proceeded. His math teacher told him about this and showed him how white would of won.

Zwischenzug
28-07-2008, 12:27 PM
As a chess player, it is literally impossible to tell who will win the game from move 2.

Desmond
28-07-2008, 01:19 PM
Speaking of which, perhaps the minimum number of posts required to access PM should be increased. :eek:

CameronD
28-07-2008, 11:49 PM
Maybe your thinking of d4 Nf6 Bg5 and white should resign

Fritz prefers black by .14 after Ne2


[Event "Moscow ol (Men)"]
[Site "Moscow"]
[Date "1994.??.??"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Blecia, Ayman"]
[Black "Lamotho, Jean"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00"]
[PlyCount "48"]
[EventDate "1994.11.??"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "14"]
[EventCountry "RUS"]
[Source "ChessBase"]

1. e3 e5 2. Ne2 Nc6 3. d4 d5 4. b3 Bg4 5. h3 Bh5 6. dxe5 Nxe5 7. Nf4 Nf6 8. Be2 Bd6 9. O-O c6 10. Bb2 Bg6 11. g4 Nfd7 12. Ng2 h5 13. g5 Bf5 14. f4 Bxh3 15. Bxh5 Bxg2 16. Kxg2 g6 17. Be2 Qe7 18. Nc3 Qe6 19. Rc1 Qh3+ 20. Kf2 B5 21. Qd2 Rh4 22. Rg1 Rxf4+ 23. Ke1 Bxe3 24. Qd1 Bxg1 0-1

Basil
29-07-2008, 12:22 AM
Maybe your thinking of d4 Nf6 Bg5 and white should resign
:lol:

Ian Rout
29-07-2008, 10:27 AM
I'm having a hard time believing that black should resign also, but I was told that this move was made in a game vs the 2 best chess player in the world. Unless my friend lied or had it wrong, but he sounded pretty serious to me. He said it was like a 7 move checkmate or close to that. He didn't remember how it proceeded. His math teacher told him about this and showed him how white would of won.
Of course the position after 2.Ne2 is about even and nothing much has happened yet. I would guess that somebody was demonstrating either a composed game with a fantastic finish or a humorous occurrence (or variation) in a low-key encounter, and somewhere along the chain of friends and maths teachers it morphed into something that really happened and between top players, and with analysis proving it was a forced win. It wouldn't be the first time.

MichaelBaron
29-07-2008, 09:32 PM
from the start e3, e5
Ne2, Black resigns

I was told that black had no chance of winning after those 3 moves. I can't figure out the following moves needed to checkmate black at no false.

Ignorance is blessed ;)

Basil
29-07-2008, 10:35 PM
OK - thread lock please!

Kevin Bonham
29-07-2008, 11:46 PM
I have a couple of theories about this one, assuming it is serious:

* It is a grossly incorrect version of a story about a smothered mate on move 7.

* It is a version of a joke story that has drifted to become a serious (and false) claim in the retelling. An example of this would be a certain story in a book Gunner knows well that involves a resignation on move 2 following 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3.

(Of course, it could just be a troll!)

Does anyone remember a very strange question like this being posted here before?

Axiom
29-07-2008, 11:47 PM
Volver - Gunner and i would like a word with you in private.

Rincewind
30-07-2008, 07:51 AM
* It is a version of a joke story that has drifted to become a serious (and false) claim in the retelling. An example of this would be a certain story in a book Gunner knows well that involves a resignation on move 2 following 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3.

It reminds me of a story about two computers programmed to play each other chess. The game goes...

1. draw agreed

Variants include.

1. a3
black resigns.

As well as insert your favourite opening here, x resigns.