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the_chess_master
02-10-2003, 07:16 PM
what is your fav. piece ppl?

the_chess_master
02-10-2003, 07:20 PM
u like pawn???????

i'll show u pawn... :twisted: :twisted:

Rahul
02-10-2003, 07:22 PM
my vote goes to the knight!

the_chess_master
02-10-2003, 07:28 PM
same here Rahul!!

*high five*

they can be so unpredictable with their movement...

sarah_#1_eel
02-10-2003, 07:53 PM
Queen :)

Merethrond
02-10-2003, 09:47 PM
I voted for 'queen' because she is the most powerful :twisted:.

Andy
02-10-2003, 10:45 PM
I voted for the bishop

SoFTuaRiaL™
02-10-2003, 11:27 PM
king all the way ... without him, the game's over :P

02-10-2003, 11:42 PM
i think i like queen... u could do som many tricks with her

Dash
03-10-2003, 01:45 PM
king all the way ... without him, the game's over :P Hahaha!! True!

The queen can rip all other pieces... Pfft rooks, Pfft Knights!!
And you call yourselves chess players :?

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 01:47 PM
:D I like knights aswell, because they can co-ordinate attacks very well :)

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 01:48 PM
Almost forgot!

We have a whole section on Knights, aswell as Rooks.

http://www.chesskit.com/training/general/ 8)

the_chess_master
03-10-2003, 02:18 PM
I voted for 'queen' because she is the most powerful :twisted:.

meh, she is too predictable with all her moves...
go knight!!

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 02:21 PM
Knight all the way 8)

Rahul
03-10-2003, 03:24 PM
knights can be more dangerous, because some people dont consider them as much of a threat and dont pay them enough attention and then BANG! checkmate....

Merethrond
03-10-2003, 03:36 PM
knights can be more dangerous, because some people dont consider them as much of a threat and dont pay them enough attention and then BANG! checkmate....

I suppose that is right but they cannot move very far. Therefore, you cannot hide it in the back of the game and then quickly move it to the front and surprise you opponent and sneakily take their piece :).

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 03:38 PM
sneakily :rolleyes:

well, knights are good, depends on what sort of attack :)

Merethrond
03-10-2003, 03:50 PM
sneakily :rolleyes:

What are you rolling your eyes about, it is a real word :).

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 03:54 PM
well, I think you are referring to capturing a piece by luck.

Dash
03-10-2003, 04:06 PM
The good thing about Knights is their Forks and their ability to jump other other pieces. I'm not saying that they're bad or anything, but I was just pointing out that the queen is the most powerful piece in the game. It can easily take on 2 night, or even 2 rooks :)

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 04:07 PM
yes well, in terms of points

King = Game
Queen = 9 points
Rook = 5 points
Knight = 3 points
Bishop = 3 points
Pawn = 1 point

Merethrond
03-10-2003, 04:14 PM
well, I think you are referring to capturing a piece by luck.

Maybe but it is sneaky if you are playing someone who is not good at the game (like me) :).

Dash, it is good to jump pieces with the knights but at the end of the day, I would rather lose a knight than the queen :).

Rahul
03-10-2003, 04:49 PM
it depends on the person playing the game and also what kind of tactics they like to use...

Choco
04-10-2003, 12:50 AM
yes well, in terms of points

King = Game
Queen = 9 points
Rook = 5 points
Knight = 3 points
Bishop = 3 points
Pawn = 1 point

Thank you for that information! Always arguing about which piece is worth more lol!

vosinn
04-10-2003, 09:48 AM
The mighty Queen :)

skip to my lou
04-10-2003, 10:43 AM
Thank you for that information! Always arguing about which piece is worth more lol!

no problem :)

Andy
04-10-2003, 11:15 AM
yes well, in terms of points

King = Game
Queen = 9 points
Rook = 5 points
Knight = 3 points
Bishop = 3 points
Pawn = 1 point

I dunno, I would Value Bishops over Knights, You can't exactly checkmate someone with just 2 knights and a pawn, But you can with Bishops.
Although, they'd have to be stupid enough to back into a corner :D

skip to my lou
04-10-2003, 11:18 AM
You can force mate using two bishops and the king. I think bob posted how in the endgame section.

Gandalf
04-10-2003, 02:47 PM
Bishops have been for too long neglected. Though it seems like luck, I've tucked a bishop away for entire games, only to com in with a strategic kill at the endgame. It's always good to play with a piece people don't notice, which is why I believe people overuse the queen.

SoFTuaRiaL™
04-10-2003, 02:53 PM
i still rekon the king rulz .... best positoin to be in is with a king and a pawn, while the opp has just the king =)

Andy
04-10-2003, 07:59 PM
Exactly Gandalf, Bishops are too often neglected.
SoFTuaRiaL, If you're in that position, you're more likely to get stalemate than anything else :D

BrainsUK
05-10-2003, 04:45 AM
Knight's are so damn annoying, so they have to get my vote.

ooooo
07-10-2003, 05:29 AM
I like the red ones the best.

SoFTuaRiaL™
07-10-2003, 09:32 AM
I like the red ones the best.

what red ones? mate, this is chess, not checkers .... =/

ooooo
07-10-2003, 12:19 PM
Chess? I thought this was a checkers site. Well no wonder!

skip to my lou
07-10-2003, 12:27 PM
http://www.chesskit.com is the main site :)

xiao1985
10-10-2003, 11:55 PM
yes well, in terms of points

King = Game
Queen = 9 points
Rook = 5 points
Knight = 3 points
Bishop = 3 points
Pawn = 1 point

however, givin on situation, the pieces values are far from their literal values..... eg, if the position is closed a knight would work around 3.5 while a bishop 1..... in given positions, knights are even better dan queen, because of the closed nature of the position...

tis true how u can't mate with 2knights... but knights work generally better with other pieces than bishop..... so yeah, knight all da way!!!

skip to my lou
11-10-2003, 12:37 AM
Correct, it also depends on the position.

Gandalf
11-10-2003, 05:37 PM
...tis true how u can't mate with 2knights...Not true. Not true at all. As long as your knights are on differently coloured squares (as is common, if they have moved equally) then they can catch the King. Try it sometime :)

skip to my lou
11-10-2003, 05:52 PM
Mating with two knights only is not forced.

xiao1985
12-10-2003, 09:10 PM
no, mate wif 2 kights are not forced..... unless there are other pieces on the board apart from 2 kings and 2 knights... then there might be a different story...... as long as u know how to defend against 2 knights tis a draw

edit: hey jeo, u r in sydney?? me too!!! and u sounded very pro, wut's ur name?? do u play in nswjcl??

skip to my lou
12-10-2003, 09:17 PM
no, mate wif 2 kights are not forced..... unless there are other pieces on the board apart from 2 kings and 2 knights... then there might be a different story...... as long as u know how to defend against 2 knights tis a draw

yep :)

Gandalf
15-10-2003, 07:42 AM
You may know how to defend against them, but you've only got 50 moves in which to pull it off, if you haven't any other pieces. That's still plenty of time to checkmate if you know how to use your knights in tandem with your king. I say this because I've done it a few times.

Ah, the Junior Chess League... I remember those days :D Haven't been a registered player in five years though :(

skip to my lou
15-10-2003, 12:07 PM
If your opponent knows how to stay in the centre, you stand no chance of checkmating him.

Sucker
16-10-2003, 12:05 AM
Favourite piece? *sigh* that has nothing to do with chess.

The value of a piece is only relative to the position, and having a favourite piece has nothing to do with chess play, more to do with maybe favourite shape of movement, or favourite piece design of a certain set.

BLEH! Anyone good on this forum out of curiousity? Like high rated competitive players? nvm.

skip to my lou
16-10-2003, 12:06 AM
I thought we had already established that.

Anyway, yes, I am a tournament player.

If you are an experienced player, you would know some people place more value on some pieces than others. Maybe it fits their style of play. For example, maybe someone likes knights, because they like to play closed positions. Maybe they like pawns, example, four pawn attack, or simply rolling the pawns down and attacking.

But yes, pieces should be valued according to the position.

I hope this answers your question.

Gandalf
16-10-2003, 02:22 AM
BLEH! Anyone good on this forum out of curiousity? Like high rated competitive players? nvm.Be careful...many here are quite talented competitors, but even more are beginners. Please don't alienate them with such comments, we want them to grow and become strong players so we can open a James An style Chess Coaching College.

ooooo
31-10-2003, 09:04 AM
me!

Gandalf
03-11-2003, 12:13 AM
me!I do not understand this post. Are you referring to the demand for "anyone good?" or my reference to many new people?

Vijayendra
06-11-2003, 09:32 PM
Most of us prefer Knight. the movement is so graceful and the fun we get out of Knight fork far outweighs any other material gain.

Ofcourse Knights are useful in closed positions. Bishops are useful in open positions. In endgame Bishops control two far ouside passed pawns better than a knight. Knight is a handicap in such cases.

Queen is a powerful piece and its horizontal & backward movements we tend to miss. Most of the time I used forwards movement of Queen and never used to think the sidewise & backward movement.

Rook endings are tough and several books are dedicated tto that subject.

Pawns are soul of chess said, Philidor. A passer in the endgame decides the game in most of the cases.

King - This guy becomes a warrior in the endgame

summary - Each piece & pawn is unique & play important role

skip to my lou
06-11-2003, 10:42 PM
"Every pawn is a potential queen"

Gandalf
07-11-2003, 05:57 PM
"Every horse is a potential sandwhich"

skip to my lou
07-11-2003, 06:04 PM
hahahaha, you eat horses? :shock: :?

Gandalf
07-11-2003, 06:11 PM
I give them a chance to flee first. But hey, I'm a carnivore. ;)

To horses: Fly, you fools! No? Hmm...lunch! :D

skip to my lou
07-11-2003, 06:46 PM
lol..............

Gandalf
08-11-2003, 10:57 PM
Adminspam!

(100)

skip to my lou
08-11-2003, 11:03 PM
Smashing!

Gandalf
12-11-2003, 12:16 PM
Someone should click on that some time...

at least until I think up a better signature that is.

Altecman
04-12-2005, 10:31 AM
I voted Pawn because they are the heart of Chess

PHAT
04-12-2005, 06:07 PM
I like the board. It is is under-rated as a weapon. Control your edges and use them to trap and kill the King.




Jeez, I think I will write a book :owned:

Aaron Bellette
29-12-2005, 06:42 PM
I voted King because I have a great love of the Endgame, where the King becomes a real enforcer, as well as my other great Chess love Shatranj, where the King (Shah) plays this role essentially from the beginning due to the altered movements and thus power of the other pieces.

Aaron.

Phil Bourke
30-12-2005, 12:36 AM
I like any piece of my opponents that I can take off the board without my own piece being subsequently taken :)

Kevin Bonham
30-12-2005, 04:45 PM
I like the sight of an opposing rook drowning in a net of pawns and minor pieces. Trapping rooks used to be my specialty, although these days it seems to have been replaced by general swindling.

I like knight endings. They are fun.

I have edited the poll so that all the pieces are correctly named.

Dozy
01-01-2006, 08:49 AM
I like the sight of an opposing rook drowning in a net of pawns and minor pieces. Trapping rooks used to be my specialty, although these days it seems to have been replaced by general swindling.

I like knight endings. They are fun.

I have edited the poll so that all the pieces are correctly named.Drowning rooks (loved the metaphor) is fun but drowning queens is even better. In the game Chassanowa-Saizewa, Moscow 1982, white was kind enough to place his queen on h8 and Saizewa pushed in the plug. You can find the position at http://www.rootyhillchess.org/time.html . . . (it's the diagram just above Magnus Carlsen's pic).

Alan Shore
01-01-2006, 10:57 AM
Drowning rooks (loved the metaphor) is fun but drowning queens is even better. In the game Chassanowa-Saizewa, Moscow 1982, white was kind enough to place his queen on h8 and Saizewa pushed in the plug. You can find the position at http://www.rootyhillchess.org/time.html . . . (it's the diagram just above Magnus Carlsen's pic).

Dozy your site's down.

Hmm, and the BB and the ******* site.. some big anti-chess haxor thing going on?

ElevatorEscapee
01-01-2006, 12:02 PM
The Rooty Hill site seems to be working ok for me... maybe it's just your computer Belthasar! ;)

Oh, back to the topic, I think that Bishop should be split into two pieces Queen's Bishop and King's Bishop because they both travel on different coloured squares and neither piece can do what the other does. (I seem to recall someone writing once that Tarasch felt he couldn't launch an attack without his King's Bishop.)

I feel that this would be a more accurate split than "Light Squared" and "Dark Squared" bishops, as the square colours that the King's and Queen's bishops travel on are reversed depending on whether you have the Black or White pieces.

Alan Shore
01-01-2006, 12:20 PM
The Rooty Hill site seems to be working ok for me... maybe it's just your computer Belthasar! ;)

It's working now.

Duff McKagan
05-01-2006, 09:41 PM
I like pawn.


I mean K+P vs K (as posted by someone earlier) wouldn't be a win without pawn :)

Rincewind
06-01-2006, 12:00 AM
I mean K+P vs K (as posted by someone earlier) wouldn't be a win without pawn :)

Glad you qualified that statement. Although it might be considered rude to talk of (temporarily) absent friends, judging by a certain thread I think Belthasar would agree with you.

cormac_e4
01-02-2006, 06:46 AM
mine is the knight as well ... it's movement is so unique and it can control or threaten an odd arrangement of positions :) -- and it's typically the most ornate or interesting piece design-wise (if that counts at all lol ;) )

Alan Shore
01-02-2006, 09:37 AM
Glad you qualified that statement. Although it might be considered rude to talk of (temporarily) absent friends, judging by a certain thread I think Belthasar would agree with you.

omg I only just saw this post... very rude to talk of a absent friends! ;)

Plus in the last day or so I think it's clear by comparison with Matt what the definition of a passed pawn is.. whereas my posts are of debutante rookies!

Rincewind
01-02-2006, 10:27 AM
Plus in the last day or so I think it's clear by comparison with Matt what the definition of a passed pawn is.. whereas my posts are of debutante rookies!

Yes but passed pawns can sometimes be promoted to rooks. So it is a case of caveat emptor.