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Kevin Bonham
22-04-2008, 01:39 AM
Just starting a thread on this event so I have somewhere to put this:

Inarkiev - Kamsky

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 0-0 9.h3 Nb8 10.d4 Nbd7 11.Nbd2 Bb7 12.Bc2 Re8 13.Nf1 Bf8 14.Ng3 g6 15.a4 c5 16.d5 c4 17.Bg5 h6 18.Be3 Nc5 19.Qd2 h5 20.Bg5 Be7 21.Ra3 Rb8 22.Kh1 Nh7 23.Be3 Bf6 24.Rea1 Bg7 25.Qe2 Bc8 26.Nf1 f5 27.axb5 axb5 28.exf5 gxf5 29.Ng3 Nd3 30.Nxh5 f4 31.Nxg7 Kxg7 32.Ba7 Rb7 33.Bxd3 cxd3 34.Qxd3 e4 35.Bd4+ Nf6 36.Qd1 exf3 37.Qxf3 Kg6 38.Qxf4 Nh5 39.Qh2 Rbe7 40.Qg1 Re2 41.Ra8 Qh4 42.Rb8 Kh6 43.Rb6 Bxh3 44.Rxd6+ Kh7 45.g3 Bg2+ 46.Kxg2 Qxg3+ 47.Kf1 Qh3+ 48.Qg2 Ng3+ Black wins 0-1

I won't pretend to have any idea what is going on through much of this wild game, but 43.Rb6?? got white absolutely splattered. 43.Qf1 appears to be the key line but maybe black is a little bit better anyway.

Suspects for this tournament are Magnus Carlsen (2765), Shakhriyar Mamedyarov (2752), Teimour Radjabov (2751), Peter Svidler (2746), Sergey Karjakin (2732), Michael Adams (2729), Gata Kamsky (2726), Alexander Grischuk (2716), Etienne Bacrot (2705), Ivan Cheparinov (2695), Wang Yue (2689), Ernesto Inarkiev (2684), Vugar Gashimov (2679) and David Navara (2672)

Isn't "Vugar Gashimov" a wonderful name for a player? Can't say I have heard of him before.

Basil
22-04-2008, 01:44 AM
Black's queen moves for the first time on #41!!!

Kevin Bonham
22-04-2008, 01:56 AM
Black's queen moves for the first time on #41!!!

Not bad. World record for that is only 76.

Garvinator
22-04-2008, 09:23 PM
I believe that Grischuk v Karjakin have just played a book draw in the Topalov line.

Kevin Bonham
22-04-2008, 09:46 PM
I believe that Grischuk v Karjakin have just played a book draw in the Topalov line.

I can't find a previous game that is exactly the same. It is a lot like Topalov-Kramnik earlier this year with the 12.Nxf7 but moves 9-11 are different.

Ian Murray
23-04-2008, 05:49 PM
Any mention of Baku immediately brings to my mind Banjo Paterson's The Bush Christening

Out back of Barcoo
Where churches are few
And men of religion are scanty...

Rincewind
23-04-2008, 06:31 PM
Any mention of Baku immediately brings to my mind Banjo Paterson's The Bush Christening

Out back of Barcoo
Where churches are few
And men of religion are scanty...

Wow! Those words are close to his poem A Bush Christening:


On the outer Barcoo where the churches are few,
And men of religion are scanty,

Perhaps someone should get on to him for ripping himself off. :)

Ian Murray
23-04-2008, 06:35 PM
Wow! Those words are close to his poem A Bush Christening:


On the outer Barcoo where the churches are few,
And men of religion are scanty,

Perhaps someone should get on to him for ripping himself off. :)
Maybe my recollection was from a different translation of the original work :doh:

Kevin Bonham
29-04-2008, 08:17 PM
This Gashimov individual may be on home turf, but he's now equal leader in the tournament!

Gashimov-Kamsky

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 0-0 8.h3 Bb7 9.d3 d6 10.a3 Qd7 11.Nbd2 Rfe8 12.Nf1 Nd8 13.Ng3 Ne6 14.Ba2 c5 15.Bd2 Bf8 16.b4 h6 17.c4 Nf4 18.Re3 bxc4 19.dxc4 Ne6 20.Bb1 g6 21.Re1 Qc7 22.Bd3 Bg7 23.Rb1 Nd7 24.Ne2 Nd4 25.Nc3 Rec8 26.Rc1 Qd8 27.Nd5 Bc6 28.Bf1 Nf8 29.Nxd4 exd4 30.f4 Nd7 31.Qf3 Rcb8 32.Qg3 cxb4 33.axb4 a5 34.b5 Bxd5 35.cxd5 Nc5 36.e5 a4 37.Bb4 a3 38.Bxa3 d3 39.Bxc5 d2 40.Bxd6 Rb7 41.Red1 dxc1=Q 42.Rxc1 Rba7 43.Qb3 Ra1 44.Bc7 Qh4 45.Rxa1 Rxa1 46.Qf3 Qe1 47.b6 Qb4 48.d6 Qd4+ 49.Kh2 Rb1 50.b7 Rxb7 51.Qxb7 Qxf4+ 52.g3 1-0

Radjabov-Carlsen. Mindless violence. :)

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 Nc6 8.Qd2 0-0 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.Bb3 Rc8 11.h4 h5 12.0-0-0 Ne5 13.Bg5 Rc5 14.Kb1 Re8 15.g4 hxg4 16.h5 Nxh5 17.Rxh5 gxh5 18.Qh2 Ng6 19.Qxh5 Qa5 20.f4 Rxg5 21.fxg5 e6 22.Nf5 exf5 23.Qxg6 Be6 24.Qh5 fxe4 25.Rf1 Qe5 26.Rxf7 Bxb3 27.axb3 g3 28.Ka2 Rf8 29.Rxf8+ Kxf8 30.Qg4 e3 31.g6 e2 32.Qf3+ Ke8 33.Qf7+ Kd8 34.Qg8+ Kd7 35.Qf7+ Qe7 36.Qf5+ Kd8 37.Qa5+ b6 38.Qd5 e1=Q 39.Qa8+ Kd7 40.Qb7+ Ke8 0-1

Kevin Bonham
30-04-2008, 10:55 PM
I take this draw as very clearcut evidence that they're not too concerned about gratuitous repetitions (as I had suspected all along):

GM Cheparinov,Ivan(BUL) (2695) - GM Gashimov,Vugar(AZE) (2679) [E20]
FIDE Grand Prix 2008/09 Baku/Azerbaijan (9), 30.04.2008

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 c5 5.g3 0-0 6.Bg2 Ne4 7.Bd2 Bxc3 8.bxc3 d5 9.0-0 dxc4 10.Ne5 Nxd2 11.Qxd2 Qc7 12.Rfd1 Nd7 13.Nxc4 cxd4 14.Qxd4 e5 15.Qh4 Nc5 16.Ne3 Be6 17.Nd5 Bxd5 18.Bxd5 Rac8 19.Rd2 Nd7 20.Rad1 Nf6 21.Qa4 b6 22.Bg2 Qe7 23.Bc6 Rc7 24.Rd6 Rfc8 25.Qb5 h6 26.R1d2 Kh8 27.Rd1 Kg8 28.R1d2 Kh8 29.Rd1 Kg8 30.R1d2 Draw -

Denis_Jessop
01-05-2008, 01:21 PM
I take this draw as very clearcut evidence that they're not too concerned about gratuitous repetitions (as I had suspected all along):

GM Cheparinov,Ivan(BUL) (2695) - GM Gashimov,Vugar(AZE) (2679) [E20]
FIDE Grand Prix 2008/09 Baku/Azerbaijan (9), 30.04.2008

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 c5 5.g3 0-0 6.Bg2 Ne4 7.Bd2 Bxc3 8.bxc3 d5 9.0-0 dxc4 10.Ne5 Nxd2 11.Qxd2 Qc7 12.Rfd1 Nd7 13.Nxc4 cxd4 14.Qxd4 e5 15.Qh4 Nc5 16.Ne3 Be6 17.Nd5 Bxd5 18.Bxd5 Rac8 19.Rd2 Nd7 20.Rad1 Nf6 21.Qa4 b6 22.Bg2 Qe7 23.Bc6 Rc7 24.Rd6 Rfc8 25.Qb5 h6 26.R1d2 Kh8 27.Rd1 Kg8 28.R1d2 Kh8 29.Rd1 Kg8 30.R1d2 Draw -

This situation just shows how silly the Baku/Sofia rules are. If there is a repetition according to the Laws of Chess, the arbiter has no option but to allow it. The only other course is to take action under the laws on the ground that the draw was by collusion and thus bringing the game into disrepute or the like but I suspect that the players would take extreme exception to that and possibly even go on strike. The Gibraltar element of "genuineness" is no better as, if it does anything, it simply imports, under a different name, the element of the Laws that is already there and its implementation would have the same effect.

DJ

Kevin Bonham
04-05-2008, 04:37 PM
Check this out

Bacrot - Inarkiev

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Nxe5 Qd4 7.Nf3 Qxe4 8.d3 Qg4 9.Nc3 Be6 10.Re1 h6 11.h3 Qh5 12.Re5 g5 13.Ne2 Qg6 14.Ned4 Bd7 15.Qe2 f6 16.Ne6 Kf7 17.d4 Bd6 18.Nc5 fxe5 19.Nxd7 Qf5 20.Ndxe5+ Kg7 21.Nc4 Rf8 22.Nxd6 cxd6 23.Qe7+?? 0-1

Amazing that a super-GM would do that.

With two rounds to go Wang Yue and Grischuk lead Gashimov by half a point.

Kevin Bonham
05-05-2008, 02:10 AM
Can't recall Radjabov making such a hideous mess of a won game before (and against the tournament bunny too!) :

Radjabov-Navara.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be2 d6 7.0-0 Nf6 8.Be3 Be7 9.f4 0-0 10.a4 Bd7 11.Nb3 Na5 12.Nd2 Be8 13.Bd3 d5 14.e5 d4 15.exf6 Bxf6 16.Nde4 Be7 17.f5 exf5 18.Rxf5 dxe3 19.Nd5 Nc6 20.Nef6+ Bxf6 21.Nxf6+ Kh8 22.Qh5 h6 23.Raf1 Nb4 24.Rg5! [24.Nxe8 Rxe8 25.Rxf7 Nxd3 26.R1f6 Qxf6 27.Rxf6 e2 28.Rxh6+ gxh6 29.Qxh6+ draw] 24...e2 25.Bxe2 Qd2? 26.Rg3 [26.Rxg7!! wins (white recovers the knight and has way too much play for the exchange) but this should also be good enough.] 26...Nxc2 27.Bd3 Ne3 28.Qg5? [28.Qe5!! Qxd3 [28...Nxf1 29.Nxe8 mates] 29.Rxe3 totally winning as black has no defence to Rg3 threatening Rxg7] 28...Qxg2+ 29.Rxg2 hxg5 30.Rxg5 g6 31.Rf3 [31.Rf4 = at worst] 31...Kg7 32.h4 Rd8 33.Nh5+ Kh6 34.Nf4 Nf5 35.Bxf5 gxf5 36.Rxf5?! [36.Rh5+ Kg7 37.Rxf5 is more accurate] 36...Rg8+ 37.Kf2 Rg4 38.Rh5+? [38.Rb3=] 38...Kg7 39.Rg5+? [39.Rc5 so if 39...Rd2+ 40.Ke3 Rxb2 41.Rc8 Kf8 42.h5 with compensation for the pawn, unlike the game.] 39...Rxg5 40.hxg5 Rd2+ 41.Kg3 Rxb2 42.a5 Rb5 43.Kh4 Rxa5 44.Nh5+ Kg8 45.Nf6+ Kf8 46.Kh5 Ra1 47.Rh3 Bc6 Black wins 0-1

Kevin Bonham
05-05-2008, 02:19 AM
Gashimov - Grischuk

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 d6 5.0-0 Bg4 6.h3 h5 7.d4 b5 8.Bb3 Nxd4 9.hxg4 Nxb3 10.axb3 hxg4 11.Ng5 Qd7 12.Qd3 Rb8 13.Rxa6 f6 14.Nc3 fxg5 15.Bxg5 Be7 16.f4 gxf3 17.Qxf3 Nf6 18.Nd5 Nxd5 19.Qf7+ Kd8 20.Qxg7 Kc8 21.Qxh8+ Kb7 22.Qh7 Qg4 23.exd5 Qd4+ 24.Kh1 Bxg5 25.Rfa1 Be3 26.Ra7+ Qxa7 27.Rxa7+ Bxa7 28.g4 Rf8 29.g5 Rf2 30.Qe4 Rf1+ 31.Kh2 Rf4 32.Qxf4 exf4 33.c3 White wins 1-0

UELleida
05-05-2008, 10:31 AM
Can't recall Radjabov making such a hideous mess of a won game before (and against the tournament bunny too!)

Navara isn't a bunny, he's just having a bad tournament.

UELleida
05-05-2008, 10:33 AM
Gashimov - Grischuk White wins 1-0

Good stuff. Gashimov is a stylish player!

Basil
05-05-2008, 10:51 AM
Navara isn't a bunny, he's just having a bad tournament.
I was never a fan of the whole Seattle grunge thing, but good luck to him :uhoh:

Kevin Bonham
05-05-2008, 11:44 AM
Navara isn't a bunny, he's just having a bad tournament.

I know, I was being flippant. :lol:


Good stuff. Gashimov is a stylish player!

I didn't know his first name before this tournament but his games have been quite entertaining and he has floored some heavy hitters. He does have home-ground advantage; I will be watching his results in the other GP rounds he plays in with interest.

Capablanca-Fan
05-05-2008, 12:14 PM
Navara isn't a bunny, he's just having a bad tournament.
It's a relative term anyway. A 2600 player would be very strong in an Australian Championship, but a "bunny" at Linares or other super-GM tourneys. But clearly Navara, with a 2720 rating, is having a bad tourney as you say.

Duff McKagan
05-05-2008, 05:03 PM
I know, I was being flippant. :lol:



I didn't know his first name before this tournament but his games have been quite entertaining and he has floored some heavy hitters. He does have home-ground advantage; I will be watching his results in the other GP rounds he plays in with interest.

Best player on ICC. Mashes Nakamura and eats Karjakin for breakfast.

Desmond
05-05-2008, 09:59 PM
I was never a fan of the whole Seattle grunge thing, but good luck to him :uhoh:
That's truly horrible. Go put a dollar in the tin!

Basil
05-05-2008, 10:06 PM
That's truly horrible. Go put a dollar in the tin!
Thank you thank you :lol:

Kevin Bonham
06-05-2008, 12:24 AM
1 4 Gashimov Vugar 2679 AZE 8 51.50 2807
2 12 Wang Yue 2689 CHN 8 50.50 2806
3 3 Carlsen Magnus 2765 NOR 8 49.00 2801
4 2 Mamedyarov Shakhriyar 2752 AZE 7 48.75 2772
5 9 Grischuk Alexander 2716 RUS 7 45.75 2774
6 10 Adams Michael 2729 ENG 6 41.00 2716
7 13 Svidler Peter 2746 RUS 6 39.50 2715
8 5 Radjabov Teimour 2751 AZE 6 38.50 2686
9 14 Kamsky Gata 2726 USA 6 38.00 2688
10 7 Karjakin Sergey 2732 UKR 6 37.25 2687
11 6 Cheparinov Ivan 2695 BUL 5 35.75 2662
12 8 Navara David 2672 CZE 5 35.25 2664
13 11 Bacrot Etienne 2705 FRA 5 32.50 2631
14 1 Inarkiev Ernesto 2684 RUS 5 32.25 2633

Anyone know how the GP pointscoring system works?

Bill Gletsos
06-05-2008, 12:32 AM
Section 7.1 in http://grandprix.fide.com/regulations.html

Kevin Bonham
06-05-2008, 12:40 AM
Thanks Bill.

If I've got this right Gashimov, Carlsen and Wang each get 153.33(recurring) points, Mamedyarov and Grischuk get 105, Adams and Svidler 85, Radjabov, Kamsky and Karjakin 60, Cheparinov and Navara 35, Bacrot and Inarkiev 15.

Tony Dowden
09-05-2008, 08:55 AM
Thanks Bill.

If I've got this right Gashimov, Carlsen and Wang each get 153.33(recurring) points, Mamedyarov and Grischuk get 105, Adams and Svidler 85, Radjabov, Kamsky and Karjakin 60, Cheparinov and Navara 35, Bacrot and Inarkiev 15.
Yes, I understand that is right. They just split the points (and prizemoney) for ties.

Do we know what the Elo perfs and gains/losses are? I'm curious to know what Carlsen's rating is as of now.

Bill Gletsos
09-05-2008, 09:06 PM
Carlsen currently at 2772.5 which should be rounded to 2773.

Tony Dowden
10-05-2008, 09:13 AM
Thanks Bill