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peter_parr
10-12-2007, 01:19 PM
Zhao close to GM norm in Budapest.


Read it first in the SMH (http://www.chessdiscountsales.com/news/2007.htm)

pax
10-12-2007, 02:26 PM
http://www.freeweb.hu/firstsaturday/0712/gm.htm

Zhao is on 5/7, and needs to beat Payan (2398) and Bui (2461) to score the norm. Tough, but possible!

Manuel
11-12-2007, 05:49 AM
Just a quick note to say Zong Yuan Zhao has scored his first GM norm in Budapest by scoring 7/9.

Spiny Norman
11-12-2007, 06:02 AM
:clap: :clap: :clap:

The future of Australian chess is looking good ...

Watto
11-12-2007, 06:57 AM
Just a quick note to say Zong Yuan Zhao has scored his first GM norm in Budapest by scoring 7/9.
Thanks for that Manuel. That is wonderful. Congratulations Yuan!

Garrett
11-12-2007, 08:03 AM
Brilliant !!

dunwannapost
11-12-2007, 09:11 AM
Congrats Yuan! One of the nicest guys in Australian Chess.

Igor_Goldenberg
11-12-2007, 10:23 AM
I hope it will his rating over 2500 as well. Well done!!

MichaelBaron
11-12-2007, 10:46 AM
Well done!!!
The rating increase must be significant as well as his perf. rating is about 2650 :clap:

pax
11-12-2007, 11:10 AM
I make it that he earned 17 points, which is easily enough to bump him over the 2500 mark.

I assume this is his first GM norm? If he has a few more tournaments in Europe, he might give David a run for his money in the race to become Australia's third GM (not to mention 1st board for the 2008 Olympiad).

pax
11-12-2007, 11:11 AM
Incidentally, did he also win the tournament?

Garvinator
11-12-2007, 11:20 AM
Incidentally, did he also win the tournament?
By the looks of this thread, who cares ;)

Rhubarb
11-12-2007, 06:25 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

ZYZ did especially well to get a GM norm as some of the other IMs only needed 6.5/9 in this field.


I make it that he earned 17 points, which is easily enough to bump him over the 2500 mark.Right, so after the 4.4 points he dropped in the two games against Carlsen in the World Cup, that would put him on 2491 + 12.6 = 2503.6 currently, assuming there are no other games.


I assume this is his first GM norm?Yes. When he won the Aus Open a year ago his PR was over 2600 but the average of opponents was way too low (I can't quite remember but there may have been other deficiencies as well).

Basil
11-12-2007, 06:27 PM
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Denis_Jessop
11-12-2007, 07:17 PM
This is great news! As I have remarked before, Yuan should, if there were justice, have had at least one GM norm before as he has been performing at GM norm level for a while now with little opportunity for tournament play and less to get a norm.

DJ

Kevin Bonham
11-12-2007, 10:16 PM
Fantastic news and a great way to do it by winning his last two games.

Johanath
12-12-2007, 07:50 AM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

ZYZ did especially well to get a GM norm as some of the other IMs only needed 6.5/9 in this field.

Right, so after the 4.4 points he dropped in the two games against Carlsen in the World Cup, that would put him on 2491 + 12.6 = 2503.6 currently, assuming there are no other games.

Yes. When he won the Aus Open a year ago his PR was over 2600 but the average of opponents was way too low (I can't quite remember but there may have been other deficiencies as well).

From memory, it was not the average rating of his opponents (I doubt you can get the sufficient PR of 2600+ without sufficiently rated opponents - assuming it is not a perfect score) it was the fact that he never played 3 GMs. I recall him having played only 2 with IMs as well but never a 3rd GM.

Edit: Incidentally it seems that Z-Y managed to score 5 (!!!) consecutive wins after scoring 2/4 initially. An incredible achievement!

brett
12-12-2007, 09:01 AM
Congratulations Yuan! We all knew you had it in you! Im sure the next two will be just around the corner!!!!!


Brett

pax
12-12-2007, 09:22 AM
From memory, it was not the average rating of his opponents (I doubt you can get the sufficient PR of 2600+ without sufficiently rated opponents - assuming it is not a perfect score) it was the fact that he never played 3 GMs. I recall him having played only 2 with IMs as well but never a 3rd GM.

http://www.actjcl.org.au/ausopen2006/standopen.html

He played four GMs at the Australian Open, and enough titled players. It was the average rating of his opponents. In fact, I think if you exchange a win against a low rated player with a loss against a high rated player it is enough to turn it into a norm.

I think in the past a successful appeal to FIDE could have been made to allow such a strong performance to be considered a norm (considering the first ten rounds it was 3/4 against GMs and 6/6 against the rest). But I think the rules are interpreted pretty tightly these days.

Denis_Jessop
12-12-2007, 02:58 PM
http://www.actjcl.org.au/ausopen2006/standopen.html

He played four GMs at the Australian Open, and enough titled players. It was the average rating of his opponents. In fact, I think if you exchange a win against a low rated player with a loss against a high rated player it is enough to turn it into a norm.

I think in the past a successful appeal to FIDE could have been made to allow such a strong performance to be considered a norm (considering the first ten rounds it was 3/4 against GMs and 6/6 against the rest). But I think the rules are interpreted pretty tightly these days.

If I have correctly read the Norm Rules, in fact unless 2 games against defeated players are discarded he also falls short of having played 50% of titled players. Then, even if the ratings of two players of less than 2250 are raised to 2250, the average rating of opponents comes out at 2367 when it needs to be at least 2381 - a rather close call. He even satisfied the necessary proportion of o/s players thanks to Drug (6 ACF of 9).

DJ

pax
12-12-2007, 03:39 PM
If I have correctly read the Norm Rules, in fact unless 2 games against defeated players are discarded he also falls short of having played 50% of titled players.

4 GMs plus Igor is 50% for the 10 game norm.

Denis_Jessop
12-12-2007, 04:37 PM
4 GMs plus Igor is 50% for the 10 game norm.

True; but then the average rating of opponents drops to 2349.

DJ

Igor_Goldenberg
12-12-2007, 05:02 PM
I just looked at last round game Bui-Zhao, it's truly amazing. White (2461, quite a strong player) played for a draw/small advantage from the beginning. Simple position from Tartarower-Makagonov (QGD), exchange of minor pieces. Then Zhao won seemingly equal position in a very instructional Capablanca style. To do that against 2460 players you have to play like a very strong grandmaster.

Well done!!

Spiny Norman
13-12-2007, 08:03 AM
Igor, any chance you could post the game here? Also, how did you get the PGN? I've been checking the URL in the early part of this thread, but it doesn't seem to have PGN's attached.

Watto
13-12-2007, 08:06 AM
Igor, any chance you could post the game here? Also, how did you get the PGN? I've been checking the URL in the early part of this thread, but it doesn't seem to have PGN's attached.
I wondered the same thing last night but it worked when I chopped off the last bit... http://www.freeweb.hu/firstsaturday/
Lots of games (perhaps all) available- just click 'games'

Spiny Norman
13-12-2007, 09:03 AM
Thanks Watto! Here's a direct link to the Java viewer page:
http://firstsaturday.freeweb.hu/0712/CB/gm.htm

Spiny Norman
13-12-2007, 09:13 AM
Here's Zhao's last game:

1.d4 e6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bg5 h6 4.Bh4 d5 5.e3 Be7 6.c4 0-0 7.Nc3 b6 8.cxd5 Nxd5 9.Bxe7 Qxe7 10.Nxd5 exd5
11.Be2 Be6 12.0-0 c5 13.Ne5 Nd7 14.Nxd7 Qxd7 15.Qd2 a5 16.dxc5 bxc5 17.Bf3 Rfd8 18.Rfd1 Qb5 19.Qc3 Rab8 20.Rd2 d4
21.exd4 cxd4 22.Rxd4 Rxd4 23.Qxd4 Qxb2 24.Qxb2 Rxb2 25.a3 Kf8 26.Kf1 a4 27.h4 Ke7 28.Ke1 Bb3 29.Bd1 Kd6 30.Rc1 Ra2
31.Bxb3 axb3 32.Rb1 Rxa3 33.Kd2 Ra2+ 34.Ke3 b2 35.Kd3 Ke5 36.Re1+ Kf5 37.Rb1 Kg4 38.Kc2 f5 39.h5 f4 40.Kc3 Kxh5
41.Kb3 Ra1 42.Rxb2 Rg1 43.f3 Kh4 0-1

The position after move 17 with the hanging pawns for Black almost looks like it should favour White (then again, I recall a game by Karpov as Black with hanging pawns where he demonstrated that this kind of weakness can be illusory).

Aaron Guthrie
13-12-2007, 10:52 AM
The position after move 17 with the hanging pawns for Black almost looks like it should favour White (then again, I recall a game by Karpov as Black with hanging pawns where he demonstrated that this kind of weakness can be illusory).Hanging pawns aren't only a weakness, especially if they are mobile (as opposed to becoming fixed).

Spiny Norman
13-12-2007, 11:02 AM
There's a good discussion and great example games here:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1003071

The game that I vaguely remembered is, I think, this one between Korchnoi and Karpov:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1068261

Can't remember exactly where I had seen it. Might have been in notes to a Fischer/Spassky game from their 1972 match in one of my books.

Johanath
26-12-2007, 12:48 PM
I stand corrected on the number of GMs played - I do remember thinking there was something wrong though and had forgotten what. For norm requirements, I believe this was the one where ZY didn't meet last time, as according to the FIDE title requirements section:

1.44a A maximum of 60% may come from the applicant`s federation and a maximum of 66% from one federation. (GA `04)

http://fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=b0101

ZY certainly didn't play enough OS players to meet the requirements?

Rhubarb
26-12-2007, 01:35 PM
I stand corrected on the number of GMs played - I do remember thinking there was something wrong though and had forgotten what. For norm requirements, I believe this was the one where ZY didn't meet last time, as according to the FIDE title requirements section:

1.44a A maximum of 60% may come from the applicant`s federation and a maximum of 66% from one federation. (GA `04)

http://fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=b0101

ZY certainly didn't play enough OS players to meet the requirements?
Australia traditionally has the Australian Open as exempt from the federations rule (1.43a) since we don't have a Championship every other year. However, I will be asking for confirmation from FIDE before the next Open as this 'agreement' was reached before the regulations were tightened.

As myself and Pax have already mentioned, both on this thread and a year ago, the main problem with ZYZ's norm was the average rating was way too low, even after all the uplifts and non-counted games. I don't know why you can't accept this. :)

Greg Canfell
FIDE Ratings Officer
Australian Chess Federation

Denis_Jessop
26-12-2007, 02:52 PM
Australia traditionally has the Australian Open as exempt from the federations rule (1.43a) since we don't have a Championship every other year. However, I will be asking for confirmation from FIDE before the next Open as this 'agreement' was reached before the regulations were tightened.

As myself and Pax have already mentioned, both on this thread and a year ago, the main problem with ZYZ's norm was the average rating was way too low, even after all the uplifts and non-counted games. I don't know why you can't accept this. :)

Greg Canfell
FIDE Ratings Officer
Australian Chess Federation

That's right. I also pointed out in post #20 that, as Drug (Vlad Smirnov) is registered with the Russian Federation, Yuan did play enough o/s Players. The average ratings of opponents is the killer which is not high enough no matter what combination of games you use to calculate the norm.

DJ

Johanath
26-12-2007, 11:50 PM
That's right. I also pointed out in post #20 that, as Drug (Vlad Smirnov) is registered with the Russian Federation, Yuan did play enough o/s Players. The average ratings of opponents is the killer which is not high enough no matter what combination of games you use to calculate the norm.

DJ

Haha! Totally forgot about that! Thanks for reminding me!

Thanks also Greg, I didn't mean to sound argumentative - I hope it didn't come across that way! I must have gotten this mixed up with something else completely! ;)

Rhubarb
27-12-2007, 08:08 AM
The average ratings of opponents is the killer which is not high enough no matter what combination of games you use to calculate the norm.

DJRight.


Thanks also Greg, I didn't mean to sound argumentative - I hope it didn't come across that way! I must have gotten this mixed up with something else completely! No worries, Johanath.


BTW, does anyone know when Yuan is playing next? Apparently he's playing in Spain before going to Gibraltar towards the end of January. I thought it might be Girona (http://www.openillesmedes.com/) but he doesn't appear in the participants list.

Brian_Jones
27-12-2007, 10:44 AM
BTW, does anyone know when Yuan is playing next? Apparently he's playing in Spain before going to Gibraltar towards the end of January. I thought it might be Girona (http://www.openillesmedes.com/) but he doesn't appear in the participants list.

Spectator at Wijk aan Zee?

Ian_Rogers
27-12-2007, 08:37 PM
Mondariz - 1/1 so far.

Ian_Rogers
28-12-2007, 08:40 AM
2/2

pax
28-12-2007, 09:35 AM
http://ajedrezmarcote.com/2007/7festival_gema/cerradogm/cerrado_gm_2007.php

[Event "CERRADO GM"]
[Site "Mondariz-Balneario"]
[Date "2007.12.26"]
[Round "1.2"]
[White "Zhao, Zong-Yuan"]
[Black "Vega Gutierrez, Sabrina"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2491"]
[BlackElo "2331"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[EventDate "2007.12.26"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. c3 d5 4. e5 a6 5. d4 Qb6 6. Bd3 Bd7 7. O-O cxd4 8. cxd4
Bb5 9. Nc3 Bxd3 10. Qxd3 Nc6 11. Be3 Nge7 12. Rfc1 Nc8 13. a3 a5 14. Na4 Qa6
15. Qb3 b5 16. Nc5 Qb6 17. Qd3 N8a7 18. Rc2 h6 19. Rac1 Be7 20. b3 Rd8 21. Qd2
b4 22. a4 O-O 23. Bxh6 gxh6 24. Qxh6 Nb8 25. Ng5 Bxg5 26. Qxg5+ Kh7 27. Rc3



[Event "CERRADO GM"]
[Site "Mondariz-Balneario"]
[Date "2007.12.27"]
[Round "2.5"]
[White "Suarez Pousa, Diego"]
[Black "Zhao, Zong-Yuan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2406"]
[BlackElo "2491"]
[PlyCount "95"]
[EventDate "2007.12.26"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. d3 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. c3 O-O 8. Nbd2
Re8 9. Ng5 Rf8 10. f4 exf4 11. O-O d5 12. Rxf4 h6 13. Nh3 Bd6 14. Rf1 dxe4 15.
Nxe4 Nxe4 16. dxe4 Ne5 17. Bf4 Qe7 18. Qe1 Bxh3 19. gxh3 Nd3 20. Bxd6 Qxd6 21.
Qg3 Qxg3+ 22. hxg3 Nxb2 23. Rf5 Rae8 24. Rb1 Nd3 25. Rd1 Rd8 26. Bd5 g6 27. Rf6
Ne5 28. Rb1 c6 29. Bxc6 Kg7 30. Rbf1 Rd3 31. Bd5 Rxg3+ 32. Kh2 Rxc3 33. Rxa6
Rfc8 34. Ra7 R8c7 35. Rxc7 Rxc7 36. Rb1 Rc5 37. Kg3 g5 38. Kf2 Kf6 39. Ke3 Rc3+
40. Kd4 Rxh3 41. Kc5 g4 42. Kxb5 Ra3 43. Kb4 Ra7 44. Rf1+ Kg5 45. Kc5 h5 46.
Kd6 f6 47. Bb3 Nf3 48. Kd5 {ilegible} 1-0

Result above is as it appears in the PGN file, but black is clearly winning the final position and the result is 0-1 on the crosstable.

Watto
28-12-2007, 09:39 AM
Thanks Ian for the info and pax too. Much appreciated. Best of luck Yuan. :)

pax
28-12-2007, 09:52 AM
I believe Yuan requires 6.5/9 for a GM norm.

Ian Murray
28-12-2007, 09:53 AM
Interesting. The game score shows a loss in Rd 2 (the position says otherwise), but the results/crosstable give Yuan the point

Basil
28-12-2007, 11:22 AM
When I grow up, I wanna play like the man did in the first game.

Watto
28-12-2007, 11:43 AM
Hi moderators. Perhaps we could change this thread to Zhao overseas or make a split? (I prefer renaming option :))

Spiny Norman
28-12-2007, 01:48 PM
When I grow up, I wanna play like the man did in the first game.
Nah, no way Gunner, that sacrifice was Bxh6, not Bxh7!!

Kevin Bonham
28-12-2007, 01:56 PM
Hi moderators. Perhaps we could change this thread to Zhao overseas or make a split? (I prefer renaming option :))

Done.

I am wondering whether Black had to play ...h6 in the first game or not. Sure there was some pressure, but it became the hook for a very spectacular smash after ...0-0 so it seems that Black was never going to get her king to safety after that. I am very cautious about playing P-KR3 in situations where it may be the target for a bishop sacrifice later.

I was wondering why ...Nb8 and not say ...Rfe8 to at least try to run and hide from the eventual appearance of a white rook, but then I saw that White also has crushing threats involving Nxe6. So I assume it was lost after ...0-0 and therefore probably lost before that too, though I haven't looked too closely yet.

Bereaved
28-12-2007, 02:36 PM
Hi everyone,

In the second game, I believe that Zhao would have actually played 44...Kg6 which is miles better than Kg5, which is a blunder allowing White to win a piece by 45.Rf5+ and then after 45...Kh4 46.Rxe5 g3 47. Re8 to keep the extra piece and stop the pawn on g3

I might be wrong...... but I don't think so

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Basil
28-12-2007, 08:03 PM
Nah, no way Gunner, that sacrifice was Bxh6, not Bxh7!!
Paying 25 HCDs right there folks!

Kevin Bonham
28-12-2007, 09:26 PM
With computer assistance, looks like 23.Bxh6!! indeed wins in Zhao's first game, but if Black puts up resistance White has a long and beautiful path to the victory.

Here is an example of what might have been had black put up a struggle:

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.c3 d5 4.e5 a6 5.d4 Qb6 6.Bd3 Bd7 7.0-0 cxd4 8.cxd4 Bb5 9.Nc3 Bxd3 10.Qxd3 Nc6 11.Be3 Nge7 12.Rfc1 Nc8 13.a3 a5 14.Na4 Qa6 15.Qb3 b5 16.Nc5 Qb6 17.Qd3 N8a7 18.Rc2 h6 19.Rac1 Be7 20.b3 Rd8 21.Qd2 b4 22.a4 0-0 23.Bxh6 gxh6 24.Qxh6 Rfe8 25.Nxe6 fxe6 26.Qxe6+ Kh7 27.Qh3+ [27.Rxc6 Nxc6 28.Rxc6 Qxc6 29.Qxc6 Rc8 30.Ng5+ Bxg5 31.Qd7+ Kh8 32.f4 Bh6 33.g3 should win but not so crushingly] 27...Kg6 28.Qg4+ Kh7 29.Qh5+ Kg7 30.Ng5 Nxe5 31.Qh7+ Kf6 32.Qh6+ Ng6 33.Rc3!! yes even here it does the job 33...bxc3 34.Rxc3 and now of all things 34...Qe6! is the only move that does not get quickly mated and after 35.Nxe6 black has a rook and two pieces for the queen and four pawns, but is gone, for example 35...Kxe6 36.Qxg6+ Bf6 37.Re3+ Kd7 38.Qf5+ Kc7 39.Qxf6 and the white kingside passed pawns decide the game.

Ian Murray
29-12-2007, 08:16 AM
At first blush 34...Bf8 looked like a possible escape route, with a new flight square for the king (e7) and the counter-threats of ...Re1# and ...Bxh6

However White sweeps all that aside with 35.Rf3+ Ke7 36.Rf7+ Kd6 37.Qxg6+ Re6 38.Qxe6#, all forced

Ian Murray
29-12-2007, 08:47 PM
2½/3. Round 3:

[Event "CERRADO GM"]
[Site "Mondariz-Balneario"]
[Date "2007.12.28"]
[Round "3.1"]
[White "Zhao, Zong-Yuan"]
[Black "Hernando Rodrigo, Jose Maria"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2491"]
[BlackElo "2359"]
[PlyCount "31"]
[EventDate "2007.12.26"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 a6 5. c5 g6 6. Bf4 Nh5 7. Bg5 Bg7 8. e3 Nd7 9. Nd2 O-O 10. Be2 f6 11. Bh4 Qe8 12. O-O e5 13. b4 f5 14. Bxh5 gxh5 15. Ne2 f4 16. Qb3 1/2-1/2

Basil
29-12-2007, 08:52 PM
Well done!. Although I think it's a little unfair that Zhao had to play two people controlling the black pieces.

Watto
31-12-2007, 12:41 AM
Nice news to come home to. After 4 rounds, Yuan is leading the tournament on 3.5/4... :)

Ian Murray
31-12-2007, 01:35 AM
Yep, the Coffs Kid is in fine fettle

[Event "CERRADO GM"]
[Site "Mondariz-Balneario"]
[Date "2007.12.29"]
[Round "4.5"]
[White "Zhao, Zong-Yuan"]
[Black "Larino Nieto, David"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2491"]
[BlackElo "2428"]
[PlyCount "91"]
[EventDate "2007.12.26"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Bd7 5. Nf3 Bc6 6. Bd3 Nd7 7. O-O Ngf6 8. Ng3 Bd6 9. Re1 Bxf3 10. Qxf3 c6 11. Nf5 Bf8 12. Bf4 Nd5 13. Nd6+ Bxd6 14. Bxd6 N7f6 15. Qg3 Nh5 16. Qe5 Nhf6 17. c4 Nb6 18. d5 Nbd7 19. Qg5 Nf8 20. Ba3 Rg8 21. dxc6 bxc6 22. Qc5 Qc7 23. Bc2 O-O-O 24. Ba4 Kb7 25. Bd1 Qb6 26. Bf3 Ng6 27. g3 Rd3 28. Bg2 Rgd8 29. Qb5 Kc7 30. Qa4 R8d4 31. Rac1 Rd2 32. Rf1 a5 33. b4 Ne4 34. bxa5 Qa6 35. Qb4 Nd6 36. Rb1 Nb7 37. Bb2 Rd6 38. c5 Rd8 39. Qb6+ Qxb6 40. cxb6+ Kb8 41. a6 Nc5 42. a7+ Kb7 43. Rfc1 Nd3 44. Rxc6 Rxb2 45. Rxb2 Nxb2 46. Rd6+ 1-0

Ian_Rogers
31-12-2007, 08:08 AM
4.5/5

pax
31-12-2007, 10:04 AM
The kid is on fire. Beat previous tournament leader Larino and GM Movszisian to go to 4.5. Now only needs 2/4 for the norm - mind you, that 4 includes 3 GMs.

pax
31-12-2007, 10:09 AM
[Event "CERRADO GM"]
[Site "Mondariz-Balneario"]
[Date "2007.12.30"]
[Round "5.2"]
[White "Movsziszian, Karen"]
[Black "Zhao, Zong-Yuan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2531"]
[BlackElo "2491"]
[PlyCount "98"]
[EventDate "2007.12.26"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. d3 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. O-O O-O 8. Re1
d6 9. c3 Na5 10. Bc2 c5 11. Nbd2 Nc6 12. Nf1 Re8 13. h3 Bf8 14. N3h2 Bb7 15.
Qf3 h6 16. Ne3 Bc8 17. a4 b4 18. Nf5 Rb8 19. g4 bxc3 20. bxc3 Nh7 21. Ra3 Be6
22. Nf1 Be7 23. Nxe7+ Nxe7 24. h4 Ng6 25. h5 Nf4 26. Bxf4 Qf6 27. d4 exf4 28.
e5 Ng5 29. Qg2 dxe5 30. dxe5 Qd8 31. f3 Rb2 32. Re2 Kf8 33. Kh2 Bc4 34. Rf2
Rxe5 35. Ra1 Qe7 36. Rd1 Re2 37. Rd2 Re3 38. Bd1 Bxf1 39. Rxb2 Bxg2 40. Rb8+
Qe8 41. Rxe8+ Kxe8 42. Kxg2 Rxc3 43. Rb2 Ne6 44. Rb8+ Kd7 45. Ra8 c4 46. Rxa6
Rc1 47. Ra7+ Kd6 48. Be2 Nd4 49. Ra6+ Kc5 0-1

Ian Murray
31-12-2007, 10:16 AM
The first GM scalp:

[Event "CERRADO GM"]
[Site "Mondariz-Balneario"]
[Date "2007.12.30"]
[Round "5.2"]
[White "Movsziszian, Karen"]
[Black "Zhao, Zong-Yuan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2531"]
[BlackElo "2491"]
[PlyCount "98"]
[EventDate "2007.12.26"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. d3 b5 6. Bb3 Be7 7. O-O O-O 8. Re1 d6 9. c3 Na5 10. Bc2 c5 11. Nbd2 Nc6 12. Nf1 Re8 13. h3 Bf8 14. N3h2 Bb7 15. Qf3 h6 16. Ne3 Bc8 17. a4 b4 18. Nf5 Rb8 19. g4 bxc3 20. bxc3 Nh7 21. Ra3 Be6 22. Nf1 Be7 23. Nxe7+ Nxe7 24. h4 Ng6 25. h5 Nf4 26. Bxf4 Qf6 27. d4 exf4 28. e5 Ng5 29. Qg2 dxe5 30. dxe5 Qd8 31. f3 Rb2 32. Re2 Kf8 33. Kh2 Bc4 34. Rf2 Rxe5 35. Ra1 Qe7 36. Rd1 Re2 37. Rd2 Re3 38. Bd1 Bxf1 39. Rxb2 Bxg2 40. Rb8+ Qe8 41. Rxe8+ Kxe8 42. Kxg2 Rxc3 43. Rb2 Ne6 44. Rb8+ Kd7 45. Ra8 c4 46. Rxa6 Rc1 47. Ra7+ Kd6 48. Be2 Nd4 49. Ra6+ Kc5 0-1

Ian Murray
31-12-2007, 10:25 AM
Pipped at the post by Pax :rolleyes:

MichaelBaron
31-12-2007, 10:47 AM
:clap: I really hope Zhao does not "semi-retire" from chess after gaining his GM title. Wehave every reason to believe that his progress will go as far as the world's top 100!

Watto
03-01-2008, 07:43 AM
Still leading the field on 5/6 having drawn the last one.

Spiny Norman
03-01-2008, 07:52 AM
Still leading the field on 5/6 having drawn the last one.
Nicely played game ... seemed to have the advantage for most of it.

Does this mean he now needs either a win, or two draws, from the remaining 3 games in order to get another norm?

pax
03-01-2008, 09:11 AM
Nicely played game ... seemed to have the advantage for most of it.

Does this mean he now needs either a win, or two draws, from the remaining 3 games in order to get another norm?

I'm pretty sure he needs 6.5, or 1.5/3 from his remaining games.

Spiny Norman
03-01-2008, 09:33 AM
Ah, yes, I miscalculated ... thanks!

Ian Murray
03-01-2008, 03:57 PM
Game 6:

[Event "CERRADO GM"]
[Site "Mondariz-Balneario"]
[Date "2008.01.02"]
[Round "6.4"]
[White "Zhao, Zong-Yuan"]
[Black "Franco Ocampos, Zenon"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2491"]
[BlackElo "2516"]
[PlyCount "85"]
[EventDate "2007.12.26"]

1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 e5 4. Nf3 Nbd7 5. Bc4 Be7 6. O-O O-O 7. Re1 c6 8. a4 b6 9. d5 cxd5 10. Nxd5 Nxd5 11. Bxd5 Rb8 12. b3 Nf6 13. Ba3 Qc7 14. c4 Nxd5 15. Qxd5 Be6 16. Qd3 f5 17. Nd2 Rbd8 18. exf5 Rxf5 19. Rac1 Bg5 20. Rc2 Qf7 21. Ne4 d5 22. cxd5 Bxd5 23. Nd6 Be6 24. Qe2 Qd7 25. Nxf5 Bxf5 26. Rb2 Bd3 27. Qxe5 Bf6 28. Qg3 Bxb2 29. Bxb2 Bg6 30. h4 Re8 31. Rc1 Qd2 32. Ba3 Qd3 33. Qxd3 Bxd3 34. Rc7 Re1+ 35. Kh2 Rb1 36. Bd6 Rxb3 37. Rxa7 h5 38. Kg3 Bg6+ 39. Kf4 Bf7 40. f3 Rc3 41. Be5 Rc4+ 42. Kg5 Rc5 43. Kf4 1/2-1/2

Spiny Norman
04-01-2008, 08:19 AM
Another draw in Game 7 against another GM ... the suspense is killing me!

[Event "CERRADO GM"]
[Site "Mondariz-Balneario"]
[Date "2008.01.03"]
[Round "7.3"]
[White "Paunovic, Dragan"]
[Black "Zhao, Zong-Yuan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2535"]
[BlackElo "2491"]
[PlyCount "106"]
[EventDate "2007.12.26"]

1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e5 3.g3 Bb4 4.Bg2 O-O 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.O-O e4 7.Ng5 Bxc3 8.
dxc3 Re8 9.Nh3 Ne5 10.b3 d6
11.Nf4 Bf5 12.Nd5 h6 13.h3 a5 14.Be3 a4 15.Qd2 Ra5 16.Rae1 axb3 17.axb3 Nxd5 18.cxd5 Qd7 19.c4 Rea8 20.Kh2 Ra2
21.Qc3 Qe8 22.Bd4 f6 23.Kg1 Qd7 24.g4 Bg6 25.Ra1 h5 26.f4 exf3 27.exf3 Nd3 28.Rxa2 Rxa2 29.Ra1 Rxa1+ 30.Qxa1 Qe7
31.Bf1 hxg4 32.hxg4 b5 33.Qd1 bxc4 34.bxc4 Nc5 35.Kf2 Kf7 36.Bxc5 dxc5 37.Bd3 Qe5 38.Bxg6+ Kxg6 39.Qd3+ Kg5 40.Qe3+ Qxe3+
41.Kxe3 f5 42.gxf5 Kxf5 43.f4 g5 44.fxg5 Kxg5 45.Ke4 Kf6 46.Kf4 Ke7 47.Ke5 Kd7 48.Kf6 c6 49.dxc6+ Kxc6 50.Ke6 Kc7
51.Kd5 Kb6 52.Kd6 Kb7 53.Kxc5 Kc7 1/2-1/2

pax
04-01-2008, 09:40 AM
5.5/7

[Event "CERRADO GM"]
[Site "Mondariz-Balneario"]
[Date "2008.01.03"]
[Round "7.3"]
[White "Paunovic, Dragan"]
[Black "Zhao, Zong-Yuan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2535"]
[BlackElo "2491"]
[PlyCount "106"]
[EventDate "2007.12.26"]

1. c4 Nf6 2. Nc3 e5 3. g3 Bb4 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8.
dxc3 Re8 9. Nh3 Ne5 10. b3 d6 11. Nf4 Bf5 12. Nd5 h6 13. h3 a5 14. Be3 a4 15.
Qd2 Ra5 16. Rae1 axb3 17. axb3 Nxd5 18. cxd5 Qd7 19. c4 Rea8 20. Kh2 Ra2 21.
Qc3 Qe8 22. Bd4 f6 23. Kg1 Qd7 24. g4 Bg6 25. Ra1 h5 26. f4 exf3 27. exf3 Nd3
28. Rxa2 Rxa2 29. Ra1 Rxa1+ 30. Qxa1 Qe7 31. Bf1 hxg4 32. hxg4 b5 33. Qd1 bxc4
34. bxc4 Nc5 35. Kf2 Kf7 36. Bxc5 dxc5 37. Bd3 Qe5 38. Bxg6+ Kxg6 39. Qd3+ Kg5
40. Qe3+ Qxe3+ 41. Kxe3 f5 42. gxf5 Kxf5 43. f4 g5 44. fxg5 Kxg5 45. Ke4 Kf6
46. Kf4 Ke7 47. Ke5 Kd7 48. Kf6 c6 49. dxc6+ Kxc6 50. Ke6 Kc7 51. Kd5 Kb6 52.
Kd6 Kb7 53. Kxc5 Kc7 1/2-1/2

Ian_Rogers
04-01-2008, 09:21 PM
6/8

Bill Gletsos
04-01-2008, 09:30 PM
6/8Thanks for that Ian.
So that means he just needs a draw with the 2530 GM Luis Galego in the last round to secure his GM norm.

pax
04-01-2008, 09:48 PM
Thanks for that Ian.
So that means he just needs a draw with the 2530 GM Luis Galego in the last round to secure his GM norm.
With the black pieces...

Ian_Rogers
04-01-2008, 10:39 PM
Zhao has yet to play Ortega - he played a morning game against Galego and drew.

Leonid Sandler
04-01-2008, 10:43 PM
He will do it!

Bill Gletsos
04-01-2008, 10:46 PM
Zhao has yet to play Ortega - he played a morning game against Galego and drew.Thanks for the correction.

That would seemingly make the game schedule shown at http://ajedrezmarcote.com/2007/7festival_gema/cerradogm/cerrado_gm_2007.php?r=1 to be wrong

Ian_Rogers
04-01-2008, 10:50 PM
Many of the players in Mondariz are heading to a tournament in Seville starting Saturday and so have played their ninth round games on Friday morning.

Garvinator
04-01-2008, 10:51 PM
Thanks for the correction.

That would seemingly make the game schedule shown at http://ajedrezmarcote.com/2007/7festival_gema/cerradogm/cerrado_gm_2007.php?r=1 to be wrong
Shaun Press has commented that Zhao is playing his round 9 game before his round eight game due to him playing in a tournament in Seville.

Bill Gletsos
04-01-2008, 10:57 PM
Many of the players in Mondariz are heading to a tournament in Seville starting Saturday and so have played their ninth round games on Friday morning.Thanks again. ;)

brett
05-01-2008, 12:08 AM
Go Yuan!

Manuel
05-01-2008, 03:34 AM
Just another quick note to say that Zong Yuan scored his second GM norm in Mondariz with a quick draw in the last round. He has Sevilla and Gibraltar to go before heading back to Aus.

Metro
05-01-2008, 03:39 AM
Just another quick note to say that Zong Yuan scored his second GM norm in Mondariz with a quick draw in the last round. He has Sevilla and Gibraltar to go before heading back to Aus.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Spiny Norman
05-01-2008, 05:57 AM
Wonderful effort! Seems the race is indeed on between Smerdon and Zhao to be our next GM ... one chasing rating points ... the other a final norm?

Thanks the news updates Ian and Manuel, as the official website seems to be lagging a bit behind. Much appreciated.

Spiny Norman
05-01-2008, 08:17 AM
Partial crosstable now up on their website. Even if the 2nd and 3rd ranked players win their final games, Zhao wins the tournament on tiebreak:


Rank Name........................... Rtg FED 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Pts SB.
1 IM Zhao Zong-Yuan 2491 AUS * 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 6½ 25,75
2 FM Suarez Pousa Diego 2406 ESP 0 * 0 1 1 ½ 1 1 1 5½ 21,00
3 IM Larino Nieto David 2428 ESP 0 1 * ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 5½ 19,75
4 GM Paunovic Dragan 2535 SRB ½ 0 ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 5 17,50
5 GM Galego Luis 2530 POR ½ 0 0 ½ * ½ ½ ½ 1 1 4½ 15,00
6 GM Franco Ocampos Zenon 2516 PAR ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ 4 18,00
7 IM Ortega Hermida Daniel 2389 ESP ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ * 1 0 1 4 15,00
8 GM Movsziszian Karen 2531 ARM 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 * 1 ½ 3½ 12,25
9 IM Hernando Rodrigo Jose Maria 2359 ESP ½ 0 0 0 0 1 0 * ½ 2 8,00
10 WGM Vega Gutierrez Sabrina 2331 ESP 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ * 1½ 4,75

pax
05-01-2008, 08:48 AM
Looks like he earns another 15 rating points or so, so his interim rating is now probably around 2519.

Spiny Norman
05-01-2008, 09:39 AM
any idea what his RP was for this event?

Ian Murray
05-01-2008, 10:06 AM
any idea what his RP was for this event?
2613, according to my sums

Kevin Bonham
05-01-2008, 10:27 AM
Just another quick note to say that Zong Yuan scored his second GM norm in Mondariz with a quick draw in the last round.

Fantastic news. :clap: :clap: :clap:

I guess it is a legitimate question now, who will be the GM first, Smerdon or Zhao?

The_Wise_Man
05-01-2008, 11:09 AM
Well done Zong-Yuan! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Combining the pressures of work, study and chess (and Australian chess community's expectations) is an achievement in itself. Such a talented player that when he choses to spend time on chess the results come not only in the form of results but also in beautiful games...

Good luck in Seville and Gibraltar... (and hopefully the final norm)

Wise

Vlad
05-01-2008, 12:48 PM
Congratulations Yuan! Also even bigger congratulations to Ian!

pax
05-01-2008, 10:59 PM
I guess it is a legitimate question now, who will be the GM first, Smerdon or Zhao?
Zhao seems to have a head of steam at the moment, and has been performing consistently above 2550 for quite some time now. He has two more shots in the near future, and then two more later on with Doeberl and the SIO. I'd back Zhao to get there first, and Smerdon to get there by (or possibly during) the Olympiad. It would be a fitting transition for the first post-Rogers Olympiad.

MichaelBaron
05-01-2008, 11:06 PM
Zhao seems to have a head of steam at the moment, and has been performing consistently above 2550 for quite some time now. He has two more shots in the near future, and then two more later on with Doeberl and the SIO. I'd back Zhao to get there first, and Smerdon to get there by (or possibly during) the Olympiad. It would be a fitting transition for the first post-Rogers Olympiad.

Well Doebrl will not have title norm opportunities ..however i agree with Pax. Zhao has every chance to become Australia's next GM within a couple of months. In fact i am confident, he will!

Watto
06-01-2008, 12:02 AM
Well Doebrl will not have title norm opportunities ..
Are you sure? It's 9 rounds and has a large number of GMs already entered... see http://www.doeberlcup.com.au/entries.html

Ian Murray
06-01-2008, 09:18 AM
Yuan is now playing in the 33rd Seville Open (167 starters, 17 GM) - web site www.fsajedrez.com

Score 1/1

Ian Rout
06-01-2008, 10:07 AM
Are you sure? It's 9 rounds and has a large number of GMs already entered... see http://www.doeberlcup.com.au/entries.html
Yes, it was increased to nine rounds for the purpose of providing norm opportunities. Evidently news travels slowly to some places.

MichaelBaron
06-01-2008, 10:18 AM
Are you sure? It's 9 rounds and has a large number of GMs already entered... see http://www.doeberlcup.com.au/entries.html

I think the large overall number of participants will make it difficult to score GM norms in the event. But of course everything is possible i guess :hmm:

pax
06-01-2008, 10:27 AM
I think the large overall number of participants will make it difficult to score GM norms in the event. But of course everything is possible i guess :hmm:
It is restricted to 80 players, and with seven or more GMs playing, it should provide pretty good opportunities. Likewise, now that the SIO has a challengers event, the norm chances should be better than last year.

On the other hand it looks like GM norms will be very hard to come by in Seville. With 230 players of all levels (26 over 2400) and no acceleration it will be very difficult to make the 2387 rating minimum.

pax
06-01-2008, 10:33 AM
Incidentally, it looks like both Larino and Suarez failed in their bid to win in the final round and join Zhao on 6.5 (with GM norms to boot):
http://ajedrezmarcote.com/2007/7festival_gema/cerradogm/cerrado_gm_2007.php?r=clasifica

No favours from their Spanish compatriots, it seems!

Kevin Bonham
06-01-2008, 11:17 AM
So he won the tournament as well as getting the norm.

It is interesting to see the list of players in finishing order by title:

IM, FM, IM, IM. GM, GM, GM, GM, IM, WGM

and by rating order

5, 7, 6, 8, 4, 1, 3, 2, 9, 10

Four of the lower titled and rated players outperformed the four higher rated GMs while only two did not. GM Zenon was especially peaceful with one win and nine draws.

MichaelBaron
06-01-2008, 12:30 PM
GM Zenon was especially peaceful with one win and nine draws.
GM Zenon Franko is a well known player. Back in the 1980's he was already strong enough to draw with Karpov, Miles,Timman etc. After this he put on a lot of weight and became a drawing master (prob. too lazy to fight OTB):D

pax
07-01-2008, 02:17 PM
Now 2/2, but scheduled to play another sub-2200 player in round 3. A GM norm is a possibility, but he would have to play most of his remaining games against players in the top 30 or so - needs about 2460 average.

Spiny Norman
08-01-2008, 06:39 AM
Up to 3/3 now ... one of 11 unbeaten players so far ... has Black against GM Daniel CAMPORA (2535) in round #4.

pax
08-01-2008, 08:27 AM
Up to 3/3 now ... one of 11 unbeaten players so far ... has Black against GM Daniel CAMPORA (2535) in round #4.
He lost that game, and plays Herrera 2153 in round 5. That pretty much puts paid to any norm chances.

pax
09-01-2008, 04:27 PM
Looking ahead to Zhao's next tournament - the Gibraltar Chess Congress, I notice that GM Ian Rogers has been engaged to give free coaching to the players:

http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.com/gib2008/entry_eng/schedule.html
"Grandmaster Ian Rogers and FIDE Trainer Sunil Weeramantry shall be available to players each afternoon for free individual or small group coaching sessions."

According to the website, Zhao, Moulthun Ly and Ben Lazarus are entered.

Oepty
09-01-2008, 05:20 PM
It is restricted to 80 players, and with seven or more GMs playing, it should provide pretty good opportunities. Likewise, now that the SIO has a challengers event, the norm chances should be better than last year.

On the other hand it looks like GM norms will be very hard to come by in Seville. With 230 players of all levels (26 over 2400) and no acceleration it will be very difficult to make the 2387 rating minimum.

Norm chances at Doeberl might also be improved if significant number of players take up the option of byes in the first 2 rounds.
Scott

MichaelBaron
09-01-2008, 10:27 PM
Norm chances at Doeberl might also be improved if significant number of players take up the option of byes in the first 2 rounds.
Scott

But how likely are the byes to happen? :hmm:

Bill Gletsos
09-01-2008, 10:32 PM
Norm chances at Doeberl might also be improved if significant number of players take up the option of byes in the first 2 rounds.
ScottNo that is totally incorrect.
All that is going to do is make a norm totally impossible as you cannot score a 7 round norm at the Doeberl Cup only a 9 round norm.
In fact that was the whole reason for making the Premier a 9 round event rather than the usual 7 round event so that norms were possible.

Desmond
09-01-2008, 10:40 PM
No that is totally incorrect.
All that is going to do is make a norm totally impossible as you cannot score a 7 round norm at the Doeberl Cup only a 9 round norm.
In fact that was the whole reason for making the Premier a 9 round event rather than the usual 7 round event so that norms were possible.
I think he means that if the lesser lights do not play in rouds 1 and 2, then there is a better chance of the titled players meeting,

Bill Gletsos
09-01-2008, 10:55 PM
I think he means that if the lesser lights do not play in rouds 1 and 2, then there is a better chance of the titled players meeting,I considered that but decided that even so his post was so incorrect that the situation regarding norms really needed to be spelt out.

Ian Rout
10-01-2008, 08:17 AM
I think it's slightly relevant. Suppose for instance that a player is seeded 10. Then in the first three rounds they would expect if all games went with rating to meet players 50, 30 and 20. If however the bottom 20 all skip the first day then the players would meet 40, 25 and 3, meaning they play a higher rated field and get among the titled players quicker.

However it would need a fair few players taking byes, and those to be skewed towards the bottom, for it to make much difference. I doubt there will be that many in practice.

pax
10-01-2008, 04:47 PM
Zhao defeated IM Tatiana Kononenko overnight to move to 5/6, half a point behind the two leaders. He plays GM Aroshidze tonight.

Oepty
10-01-2008, 06:05 PM
No that is totally incorrect.
All that is going to do is make a norm totally impossible as you cannot score a 7 round norm at the Doeberl Cup only a 9 round norm.
In fact that was the whole reason for making the Premier a 9 round event rather than the usual 7 round event so that norms were possible.

Bill, I most certainly was not talking about norm seekers taking byes. I know that would mean no norm, I do not know why you even considered that was what I meant. I was thinking that if a significant number of players take byes in the first 2 rounds and they were most from the bottom half of the draw then a norm seeker would play higher rated players in the first 2 rounds than otherwise and maybe in the third round if they got to 2/2 they might be be in top half of the pairing playing one of top few seeds instead of possibly playing a player rated quite a bit lower who has caused a couple of upsets. The smaller the number of players that reach 2/2 or 3/3 the larger the chance that a player will play one of the highest rated players.
Scott

pax
13-01-2008, 01:15 AM
Zhao drew with Vladimir Burmakin (2611) to finish on 6.5/9 (=10th place). A pretty good effort, but not a GM norm. Interestingly, Movszisian won outright, after playing so poorly in Zhao's last tournament.

Charles
13-01-2008, 09:34 AM
Bill, I most certainly was not talking about norm seekers taking byes. I know that would mean no norm, I do not know why you even considered that was what I meant. I was thinking that if a significant number of players take byes in the first 2 rounds and they were most from the bottom half of the draw then a norm seeker would play higher rated players in the first 2 rounds than otherwise and maybe in the third round if they got to 2/2 they might be be in top half of the pairing playing one of top few seeds instead of possibly playing a player rated quite a bit lower who has caused a couple of upsets. The smaller the number of players that reach 2/2 or 3/3 the larger the chance that a player will play one of the highest rated players.
Scott


Currently of the 45 entrants for the premier (two more to be put up tomorrow) there are only two who have sought byes for the Thursday Rounds. They are in the bottom half of the draw. This may change but my general feel from those that have entered is they are looking forward to a nine round tournament and the byes have been sought by players who are transiting with players coming for the Major.

Denis_Jessop
13-01-2008, 09:50 AM
Zhao drew with Vladimir Burmakin (2611) to finish on 6.5/9 (=10th place). A pretty good effort, but not a GM norm. Interestingly, Movszisian won outright, after playing so poorly in Zhao's last tournament.

Yes, it's good but on my calculations his average rating of opponents is 2350 which would not have given him a norm even had he won in rd 9. The problem with big Swisses - too many low-rated players. Four of his first 5 opponents were <2250.

DJ

pax
13-01-2008, 10:26 AM
Yes, it's good but on my calculations his average rating of opponents is 2350 which would not have given him a norm even had he won in rd 9. The problem with big Swisses - too many low-rated players. Four of his first 5 opponents were <2250.

Yes. The third round loss dropped him down too far in the rankings to keep the GM norm hope alive.

pax
23-01-2008, 10:58 AM
Zhao started with a win in the Gibraltar Masters, while Moulthun Ly drew with GM Tiger Hillarp Persson. Ben Lazarus beat a 1900 player (the draw is accelerated), while Manuel Weeks lost.
http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.com/gib2008/masters/resultsindex.html

There will also be live games via monroi.com.

bergil
23-01-2008, 03:11 PM
Event: Gibtelecom Master
Round: 1
White: Zhao, Zong-Yuan
Black: Forsaa, Espen
Result: 1-0
White Elo: 2487
Black Elo: 2285

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 d5 4.d4 Bb4 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Bg5 O-O 7.Qc2 Nbd7 8.a3 Bxc3+ 9.Qxc3 h6 10.Bh4 c6 11.e3 Ne4 12.Qc2 Ndf6 13.Bd3 Bf5 14.Ne5 g5 15.Bg3 Nxg3 16.hxg3 Bxd3 17.Qxd3 Kg7 18.f3 Rh8 19.O-O-O Nd7 20.f4 Nxe5 21.fxe5 f6 22.e4 Re8 23.exd5 cxd5 24.Rxh6 Kxh6 25.Rh1+ Kg7 26.Rh7+ Kf8 27.Qg6 Rc8+ 28.Kb1 Rc7 29.Rh8+ Ke7 30.Qxf6+ Kd7 31.Qf5+ Kc6 32.Qg6+ Kb5 33.Rxe8 Qd7 34.Re6 Kc4 35.Qc2+ Kxd4 36.Qd2+ Ke4 37.Qe2+ Kd4 38.Qd2+ Ke4 39.Rf6 Qb5 40.Rf4+ Kxe5 41.Qe3+ Kd6 42.Rf6+

pax
23-01-2008, 03:24 PM
hah, nice king chase

pax
24-01-2008, 09:49 AM
An excellent start by the Aussies. Zhao drew with black against Areschenko, Ben Lazarus drew with Ketevan Arakhamia, and Moulthun Ly won - leaving all three on 1.5/2. Ben Lazarus plays GM Mark Hebden in round 3, Ly plays GM Chanda Sandipan, while Zhao plays an unrated Englishman.

Basil
24-01-2008, 11:35 AM
Great reading. Thanks for the updates. Caaarn lads.

Spiny Norman
24-01-2008, 01:34 PM
Areshchenko,A (2645) - Zhao,Z (2487) [C90]
Gibtelecom Masters Gibraltar (2.7), 23.01.2008

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.d3 b5 6.Bb3 Be7 7.0-0 0-0 8.Re1 d6 9.c3 Na5 10.Bc2 c5
11.Nbd2 Nc6 12.Nf1 Re8 13.Ng3 Bf8 14.h3 g6 15.Be3 d5 16.Bg5 d4 17.a4 Rb8 18.axb5 axb5 19.Qd2 Bg7 20.Rec1 Be6
21.cxd4 Nxd4 22.Nxd4 Qxd4 23.Ne2 Qd6 24.Ra7 Ra8 25.Qa5 Rxa7 26.Qxa7 c4 27.dxc4 bxc4 28.Nc3 Qb8 29.Qa2 Qb7 30.Rd1 Ra8
31.Qb1 Rb8 32.Na4 Qc6 33.Nc3 Qb7 34.Qc1 h6 35.Bxf6 Bxf6 36.Qxh6 Qe7 37.Qc1 Bg5 38.Qa1 Qc5 39.Nd5 Bh4 40.Rd2 Bg5
41.Rd1 Bh4 42.Rd2 Bg5 43.Rd1 Bh4 ½-½

Spiny Norman
25-01-2008, 07:02 AM
Won his 3rd round game too:

Zhao vs Bates (2341)

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 0-0 9.h3 Na5 10.Bc2 c5
11.d4 Qc7 12.Nbd2 cxd4 13.cxd4 Bb7 14.d5 Rac8 15.Bd3 Nd7 16.Nf1 Nc5 17.Bb1 Nc4 18.b3 Nb6 19.Ne3 a5 20.Nf5 b4
21.Be3 Bf6 22.Nh2 Nbd7 23.Ng4 Kh8 24.Qf3 Rce8 25.Nxf6 gxf6 26.Qh5 Rg8 27.Qxf7 Ref8 28.Qe7 Rg6 29.Qxd6 Qxd6 30.Nxd6 Ba6
31.Bc2 Rfg8 32.g3 Nd3 33.Bxd3 Bxd3 34.Rad1 Ba6 35.Rc1 1-0

Spiny Norman
25-01-2008, 09:08 AM
Tournament site now shows him in the crosstable as:


25 IM Zhao, Zong-Yuan 2.5 AUS M 6.0 4.75 2487 2658 +0.45 1 ½ 1

2658 is performance rating so far. In round #4 he meets another GM, again with Black:


Board 11: GM Sandipan, Chanda 2.5 IND 2593 vs IM Zhao, Zong-Yuan 2.5 AUS 2487

pax
25-01-2008, 09:34 AM
Won his 3rd round game too:

Zhao vs Bates (2341)


I assume that 2341 is a BCF-equivalent rating? He is unrated according to FIDE, which means he will be counted as 2250 for norm purposes.

Igor_Goldenberg
25-01-2008, 11:08 AM
Won his 3rd round game too:

Zhao vs Bates (2341)

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 0-0 9.h3 Na5 10.Bc2 c5
11.d4 Qc7 12.Nbd2 cxd4 13.cxd4 Bb7 14.d5 Rac8 15.Bd3 Nd7 16.Nf1 Nc5 17.Bb1 Nc4 18.b3 Nb6 19.Ne3 a5 20.Nf5 b4
21.Be3 Bf6 22.Nh2 Nbd7 23.Ng4 Kh8 24.Qf3 Rce8 25.Nxf6 gxf6 26.Qh5 Rg8 27.Qxf7 Ref8 28.Qe7 Rg6 29.Qxd6 Qxd6 30.Nxd6 Ba6
31.Bc2 Rfg8 32.g3 Nd3 33.Bxd3 Bxd3 34.Rad1 Ba6 35.Rc1 1-0
He made it look simple. I especially like 25.Nxf6, as black cannot recapture with the knight (25...Nxf6 26.Nxg7 Kxg7 27.Bh6+! Kxh6 (or Kg6 Qf5+ Kxh6) 28. Qxf6+ Kh5 29.g4#). Zhao must've had it in mind when playing Nh2-Ng4.

Spiny Norman
26-01-2008, 05:17 AM
Zhao (with Black) has just drawn his 4th round game against GM Sandipan (2593).

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bb5+ Nc6 4.0-0 Bd7 5.Re1 Nf6 6.c3 a6 7.Bf1 Bg4 8.d3 e6 9.Nbd2 Be7 10.h3 Bh5
11.g4 Bg6 12.Nh4 d5 13.Nxg6 hxg6 14.e5 Nd7 15.Nf3 0-0 16.Bf4 b5 17.Bg2 a5 18.h4 a4 19.Qd2 c4 20.d4 a3
21.Bg5 axb2 22.Qxb2 b4 23.Reb1 Rb8 24.Bxe7 Qxe7 25.Ng5 Rb6 26.cxb4 Rxb4 27.Qc3 Nb6 28.Rxb4 Qxb4 29.Qh3 Qd2 30.Nf3 Qb2
31.Re1 Nxd4 32.h5 Nxf3+ 33.Qxf3 c3 34.Qf4 c2 35.Bf1 Qc3 36.Rc1 Nd7 37.Qe3 Qxe3 38.fxe3 Rc8 39.hxg6 fxg6 40.Bd3 Nxe5
41.Rxc2 Rxc2 42.Bxc2 Kf7 43.g5 Nf3+ 44.Kf2 Nxg5 45.a4 Ke7 46.a5 e5 47.Bb3 Kd6 48.a6 Ne6 49.a7 Nc7 50.Kf3 Kc6
51.Kg4 Kb7 52.Kg5 Kxa7 53.Kxg6 Kb6 54.Kf5 e4 55.Ke5 Kc5 56.Ba2 g5 57.Bb3 g4 58.Kf4 Kb4 59.Bd1 Kc5 60.Bxg4 Nb5
61.Be2 Nc3 62.Bf1 Nb1 63.Bh3 Nd2 64.Bf5 Kc4 65.Bg6 Kd3 66.Ke5 1/2-1/2

pax
26-01-2008, 09:08 AM
Meanwhile, Ben Lazarus drew with the 2337 rated GM Arkadi Eremeevich Vul. There's something very odd about the way Vul's rating has dropped nearly 200 points in four years. Moulthun Ly beat a 2000 rated player.

pax
26-01-2008, 09:18 AM
Anyone know if Zhao missed a win there?

MichaelBaron
26-01-2008, 09:22 AM
Meanwhile, Ben Lazarus drew with the 2337 rated GM Arkadi Eremeevich Vul. There's something very odd about the way Vul's rating has dropped nearly 200 points in four years. Moulthun Ly beat a 2000 rated player.


Vul' is a 2300 or so rated player from Moscow region who started his title bying back in the early 1980's by purchasing a Russian national master title. At the turn of the century, he expanded his shopping cart by purchasing IM and GM titles.

pax
26-01-2008, 09:27 AM
Zhao plays Hikaru Nakamura next. There should be some fireworks in that game!

pax
26-01-2008, 11:03 AM
[Event "2008 GibTelecom International Chess Tournament"]
[Site "Gibraltar"]
[Date "2008.01.25"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Lazarus, Ben"]
[Black "Vul, Arkadi Eremeevi"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteELO "2143"]
[WhiteTitle ""]
[BlackELO "2337"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[Source "MonRoi"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 g6 4.d4 exd4 5.c3 Nge7 6.cxd4 d5 7.exd5 Nxd5 8.O-O Bg7 9.Re1 Be6 10.Ne5 O-O 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Bxc6 Rb8 13.Nc3 Nb4 14.d5 Bf5 15.Ba4 Nd3 16.Re2 Nxb2 17.Bxb2 Rxb2 18.Rxb2 Bxc3 19.Rab1 Bxb1 20.Rxb1 Ba5 21.Bc6 Qf6 22.Qe2 Rd8 23.g3 Bb6 24.Kg2 Rd6 25.Rb4 Bd4 26.Rb3 Qd8 27.Rb4 Qf6 28.f3 Kg7 29.Qd3 Bb6 30.Re4 Qb2 31.Qe2 1/2-1/2

Igor_Goldenberg
26-01-2008, 11:44 AM
Anyone know if Zhao missed a win there?
Seems like he was close. Hard to say without detailed analysis. I would seriously consider 38...gxh5 (instead of Rc8)

Kevin Bonham
26-01-2008, 10:23 PM
Anyone know if Zhao missed a win there?

Aside from him being well on top for much of the game (especially 35...Nd7 seems to leave not much for white to do about the c-pawn) in the minor piece ending it appears that while 56...g5 does not win, 56...g6!! does.

The reason for this is that until Black plays ...g4, white can only place his bishop on a2 or b3 since if he allows ...Kc4 it's over. So if if Black plays 56...g6 white is forced to play 57.Bb3 but now ...g5 and if 58.Ba2 then ...g4 59.Kf4 Nb5! trapping the white bishop.

So 56...g6!! would have won by zugzwang.

Spiny Norman
27-01-2008, 05:06 AM
Zhao beats Nakamura (2670)! Wow, that's a big scalp for Zhao!

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.exd6 exd6 6.Nc3 Be7 7.Bd3 Nc6 8.Nge2 Bg4 9.h3 Bh5 10.Be3 0-0
11.d5 Ne5 12.b3 Bf6 13.Rc1 Bg5 14.f4 Bh4+ 15.Bf2 Bxe2 16.Bxe2 Bxf2+ 17.Kxf2 Qf6 18.g3 Rae8 19.Re1 Ned7 20.Bf3 Nc5
21.Qd2 a6 22.Kg2 Qf5 23.Re3 Rxe3 24.Qxe3 Qd3 25.Qxd3 Nxd3 26.Rd1 Nc5 27.Re1 Rd8 28.Re7 Ncd7 29.Be2 Kf8 30.Re3 Nb8
31.Bd3 h6 32.g4 a5 33.Nb5 Na6 34.a3 g5 35.Kf3 Nc5 36.Bc2 Na6 37.Bd3 Nc5 38.Bc2 gxf4 39.Kxf4 a4 40.Nxc7 axb3
41.Bxb3 Nbd7 42.Nb5 Ne5 43.Ba2 Ncd3+ 44.Kf5 Nc1 45.Nxd6 Ng6 46.Nxb7 Rb8 47.c5 Rxb7 48.Bc4 Rb2 49.Ke4 Ke7 50.Kd4+ Kd8
51.c6 Nf4 52.d6 Rd2+ 53.Kc5 Ncd3+ 54.Kb6 Rc2 [Mate in three with 55.c7+] 55.Bxf7 1-0

soupman_2
27-01-2008, 05:40 AM
Gibraltar Videos

"... Make sure you don't miss the bit about 2.5 minutes when GM Ian Rogers's piece to camera is interrupted by an ape which appears on the screen briefly. Ian keeps looking nervously to his right but he bravely continues his narration ..."

http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.com/gib2008/video/index.html

I note that Manuel Weeks is the Publicity Manager for the tournament. Hey Manuel, where's the photos of Moulthun Ly?

Basil
27-01-2008, 07:13 AM
Fantastic! Truly a great result :clap:

pax
27-01-2008, 09:16 AM
What an awesome result for Zhao! It should put him ahead of the game for the GM norm for now. Zhao plays Beliavsky with white next.

ratinahat
27-01-2008, 09:59 AM
Great result! A genuine GM is on the way!!:clap: :owned: :owned:

pax
27-01-2008, 10:01 AM
Current performance rating 2781 (http://paxmans.net/performance_calc.php?score=4&rating1=2285&rating2=2645&rating3=2200&rating4=2593&rating5=2670&submitted=Y). Even if he loses to Beliavsky, his PR remains well above 2600.

Afitz
27-01-2008, 10:40 AM
This would be his 2nd or 3rd norm? I can't remember :)

Denis_Jessop
27-01-2008, 10:45 AM
What an awesome result for Zhao! It should put him ahead of the game for the GM norm for now. Zhao plays Beliavsky with white next.

This is indeed awesome. What is almost as impressive is that Yuan has been playing like this for 12 months now and good results (wins or draws) against GMs - though not as good ones as Nakamura - are becoming almost the norm. :D :clap:

DJ

Kevin Bonham
27-01-2008, 10:58 AM
It's not like Nakamura blundered either - he was outplayed!

Capablanca-Fan
27-01-2008, 01:38 PM
Board 1 for next Aussie Olympic team?

pax
27-01-2008, 03:01 PM
Board 1 for next Aussie Olympic team?
He'd be a warm favourite right now. At this rate, his rating will be over 2550 pretty soon.

Denis_Jessop
27-01-2008, 04:41 PM
This would be his 2nd or 3rd norm? I can't remember :)

Andrew

This would be his third norm. He scored his first norm in a First Saturday tournament late last year and won the category 10 7th Mondariz Balneario tournament, held from 26 December 2007 to 5 January 2008 in Pontevedra, Spain for his second norm. Also if his rating reaches 2500 he will get the title. It's now 2487 as at 1 January but I would think it has gone up since then.

DJ

pax
27-01-2008, 05:17 PM
Andrew

This would be his third norm. He scored his first norm in a First Saturday tournament late last year and won the category 10 7th Mondariz Balneario tournament, held from 26 December 2007 to 5 January 2008 in Pontevedra, Spain for his second norm. Also if his rating reaches 2500 he will get the title. It's now 2487 as at 1 January but I would think it has gone up since then.

DJ

Zhao has already met the 2500 criterion. Neither the First Sat or Mondariz tournaments are factored into his published rating, and the 2500 rating criterion can be a theoretical mid-period rating - it doesn't have to be a published rating. Not sure what his rating is factoring in Mondariz, but it's probably over 2520.

pax
27-01-2008, 05:23 PM
The relevant regulation:



1.50 Requirements for award of the title, having achieved norms
1.50a Two or more norms in events covering at least 27 games
1.50b If a norm is sufficient for more than one title, then it may be used as part of the application for both.
1.50c To have achieved at some time or other a rating as follows:
GM >= 2500
IM >= 2400
WGM >= 2300
WIM >= 2200

1.50c1 Such a rating need not be published. It can be obtained in the middle of a rating period, or even in the middle of a tournament. The player may then disregard subsequent results for the purpose of their title application. However the burden of proof then rests with the federation of the title applicant. It is recommended that players receive a certificate from the Chief Arbiter where they achieve the rating level during an event. Title applications based on unpublished ratings shall only be accepted by FIDE after agreement with the Rating Administrator.

I guess the point of this rule is to prevent tournament withdrawals and inactivity aimed at preserving a required rating until the rating list publication.

Metro
27-01-2008, 05:56 PM
Andrew

This would be his third norm. He scored his first norm in a First Saturday tournament late last year and won the category 10 7th Mondariz Balneario tournament, held from 26 December 2007 to 5 January 2008 in Pontevedra, Spain for his second norm. Also if his rating reaches 2500 he will get the title. It's now 2487 as at 1 January but I would think it has gone up since then.

DJ
He is now very close to being next Aussie GM:clap: :clap: :clap:

pax
27-01-2008, 05:58 PM
He is now very close to being next Aussie GM:clap: :clap: :clap:
All together now: "Four more games! Four more games! Four more games!!"

pax
27-01-2008, 06:18 PM
Zhao gained 17 points from the First Saturday tournament, and (I believe) 14.6 from Mondariz. That puts him on 2519 at the beginning of Gibraltar. I estimate that he has gained another 13.2 in his four rated games so far. That puts him up to a theoretical 2532, well within striking distance of Ian Rogers' final rating of 2545.

So that would be quite a symbolic changing of the guard - Zhao earns the GM title and overtakes Rogers' rating all within a few months of Ian's retirement (soon to be followed by Smerdon's title of course).

Denis_Jessop
27-01-2008, 07:10 PM
The relevant regulation:



I guess the point of this rule is to prevent tournament withdrawals and inactivity aimed at preserving a required rating until the rating list publication.

Yes; that's right. I was pretty sure that he already either had made the 2500 before this tournament or would make it during the tournament but I didn't have the figures handy (even if I could have worked them out :) )

DJ

Desmond
28-01-2008, 12:28 AM
Zhao beats Nakamura (2670)! Wow, that's a big scalp for Zhao!
Very, very impressive.

Bereaved
28-01-2008, 01:35 AM
Stem game of tonight's match against Belyavsky

[Event "Novi Sad ol (Men)"]
[Site "Novi Sad"]
[Date "1990.??.??"]
[Round "13"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Ivanchuk, Vassily"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C93"]
[WhiteElo "2610"]
[BlackElo "2680"]
[PlyCount "64"]
[EventDate "1990.11.??"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "14"]
[EventCountry "YUG"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1994.03.01"]
[WhiteTeamCountry "GER"]
[BlackTeamCountry "GER"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Bb7 10. d4 Re8 11. Nbd2 Bf8 12. a3 h6 13. Bc2 Nb8 14. b3 Nbd7 15. Bb2 g6 16. a4 Bg7 17. Bd3 c6 18. Qc2 Qc7 19. b4 d5 20. dxe5 Nxe5 21. Nxe5 Rxe5 22.Nf3 Re6 23. exd5 Rxe1+ 24. Rxe1 Nxd5 25. Be4 Re8 26. Bxd5 Rxe1+ 27. Nxe1 cxd5 28. axb5 axb5 29. Qd2 Qc6 30. Nf3 d4 31. cxd4 Bf8 32. Bc3 Qd5 1/2-1/2

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Basil
28-01-2008, 01:38 AM
Well that's reasonably good pedigree.

Spiny Norman
28-01-2008, 06:14 AM
Draw with Beliavsky today, putting Zhao on 4.5/6 ... draw for R7 isn't up yet ... will post the PGN in a sec. Incidentally, is Ian Rogers there in Gibraltar? I was watching a bit of commentary video streaming yesterday as Zhao finished his game and thought I saw him ...

Zhao vs Beliavsky (2638)

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 0-0 8.c3 d6 9.h3 Re8 10.d4 Bb7
11.Nbd2 Bf8 12.a3 h6 13.Bc2 Nb8 14.b3 Nbd7 15.Bb2 g6 16.a4 Bg7 17.Bd3 c6 18.Qc2 Qc7 19.c4 bxa4 20.c5 d5
21.bxa4 dxe4 22.Bxe4 exd4 23.Bxd4 a5 24.Bd3 Ba6 25.Bxa6 Rxa6 26.Rxe8+ Nxe8 27.Re1 Ra8 28.Ne4 Bxd4 29.Nxd4 Ndf6 30.Nd6 Nxd6
31.cxd6 Qxd6 32.Qxc6 Qxc6 33.Nxc6 Ra6 34.Rc1 Nd7 35.Nb8 Nxb8 36.Rc8+ Kg7 37.Rxb8 Rf6 38.Rb5 Rf5 39.Rxf5 gxf5 40.Kh2 f4
41.g3 Kf6 42.gxf4 Ke6 43.Kg3 f5 44.Kh4 Kf6 45.Kh5 Kg7 46.f3 Kh7 47.h4 1/2-1/2

Shade Slayer
28-01-2008, 08:29 AM
9 GM Gurevich, Mikhail 4.5 TUR 2607 - IM Zhao, Zong-Yuan 4.5 AUS 2487

pax
28-01-2008, 08:41 AM
Rogers is in Gibraltar giving free game anaysis to the players, and presumably doing some commentary.

pax
28-01-2008, 08:55 AM
Ok, this is my calculation. If Zhao's 8th and 9th round opponents are rated over 2665 on average, he will need only 0.5/3 for a norm. If they are rated over 2498 (under 2665), he will need 1/3 for the norm, if they are rated over 2309 (under 2498), he will need 1.5/3.

So a win over Gurevich will almost secure it. A draw will put him in an excellent position. A loss will leave him still with some work to do.

Desmond
28-01-2008, 09:43 AM
That's an interesting motif, where white stalemates himself and black must abandon the pawn (and lose) to avoid the draw. Not sure if I have seen it before.

Denis_Jessop
28-01-2008, 10:31 AM
Rogers is in Gibraltar giving free game anaysis to the players, and presumably doing some commentary.

For info from the tournament web site


COMMENTARY



* This will take place daily in the afternoon and be conducted by Grandmaster Stuart Conquest in both English and Spanish.
* Audience participation will be encouraged.
* Commentaries can be followed from this website.


CHESS MASTER CLASSES



Selected games by non-professional players or analysis of their own games shall be the subject of master classes offered by grandmasters, including Alexander Beliavsky, Hikaru Nakamura and Ian Rogers.

DJ

Kevin Bonham
28-01-2008, 11:19 AM
30.Nd6 simplifies things greatly. Probably if the draw did not so assist his quest for a final GM norm he would have kept knights on which leaves black with some accurate and patient defending to do.

Spiny Norman
29-01-2008, 05:47 AM
Zhao has drawn with Gurevich! PGN to follow in a minute.

1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.d4 c6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Qc2 Bd6 7.e4 dxe4 8.Nxe4 Nxe4 9.Qxe4 e5 10.c5 Be7
11.Be3 exd4 12.Bxd4 Qa5+ 13.Bc3 Qxc5 14.Bxg7 Qb4+ 15.Nd2 Qxe4+ 16.Nxe4 Bb4+ 17.Kd1 Rg8 18.Bd4 f5 19.a3 Be7 20.Nd2 Nc5
21.Kc2 f4 22.Re1 Bf5+ 23.Kc1 0-0-0 24.Rxe7 Rxd4 25.Re5 Nd3+ 26.Bxd3 Bxd3 27.g3 Bg6 28.gxf4 Rxf4 29.f3 Rh4 30.Re2 Re8
31.Rxe8+ Bxe8 32.Re1 Bg6 33.Re2 Kc7 34.Ne4 Rf4 35.Re3 Rh4 36.Re2 Rf4 37.Re3 Rh4 1/2-1/2

MichaelBaron
29-01-2008, 08:19 AM
Black was actually slightly better for the last 10 moves or so! Extremely well done!:clap:

If we do not lose Zhao to his medicine studies, I have a feeling he can become 2650 rated GM soon

pax
29-01-2008, 09:37 AM
If we do not lose Zhao to his medicine studies, I have a feeling he can become 2650 rated GM soon

He has certainly been playing pretty consistently above 2600 the last few months. Who knows how far he can go?

He is black against Kuzubov in round 8. A draw will almost certainly secure his GM norm. That would also allow him the freedom to shoot for victory in his last two games and get himself in among the (substantial) prizes in Gibraltar.

Denis_Jessop
29-01-2008, 10:24 AM
Black was actually slightly better for the last 10 moves or so! Extremely well done!:clap:

If we do not lose Zhao to his medicine studies, I have a feeling he can become 2650 rated GM soon

I agree as he has been playing at that level consistently for the last year as Pax mentions. Moreover it may be good for chess that Yuan switched from medicine to pharmacy a while ago. He must be nearing the end of his studies now.

DJ

pax
29-01-2008, 10:41 AM
Incidentally, Moulthun Ly is probably still in the running for an IM norm but he would have to win his next game (vs IM Papadopoulis) I think to retain his chances.

Capablanca-Fan
29-01-2008, 11:03 AM
Incidentally, Moulthun Ly is probably still in the running for an IM norm but he would have to win his next game (vs IM Papadopoulis) I think to retain his chances.
Would that give him the title?

Ian Murray
29-01-2008, 11:14 AM
Would that give him the title?
That would be his third norm. He will still need to reach 2400 for the title

pax
29-01-2008, 03:30 PM
It's worth recalling this prophetic comment from Henrik Carlsen after Magnus disposed of Zhao at the World Cup last year:
"All credits to the most likeable young Australian, who is clearly underrated and more than ready to play for his GM-norms in Europe this winter."

Remarkably, this comment came just prior to Zhao's first norm in Hungary.

Aaron Guthrie
29-01-2008, 06:35 PM
Very impressive turning that position to his advantage against such opposition.

Bereaved
29-01-2008, 09:53 PM
Hi everyone,

This is Zhao's round 8 pairing...... how does that place him for the norm?



12 GM Kuzubov, Yuriy 5.0 UKR 2606 : IM Zhao, Zong-Yuan 5.0 AUS 2487

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

pax
29-01-2008, 10:23 PM
This is Zhao's round 8 pairing...... how does that place him for the norm?

See above. A draw is very likely to be enough for the norm (barring a low rated 9th round opponent). If he loses, then he will need either a win or a draw depending on the rating of his next opponent.

Trent Parker
30-01-2008, 12:26 AM
No Live coverage of Zhao tonight :(

eclectic
30-01-2008, 12:27 AM
there is

Spiny Norman
30-01-2008, 04:18 AM
Unfortunately Zhao had his first loss:

GM Kuzubov (2606) vs Zhao

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 d5 4.e3 e6 5.b3 Bb4+ 6.Nbd2 Ne4 7.Bd3 0-0 8.Qc2 f5 9.Bb2 b6 10.0-0 Bb7
11.a3 Bd6 12.b4 Nd7 13.Rad1 Qe7 14.Nb3 a5 15.bxa5 bxa5 16.c5 Bc7 17.a4 Ba6 18.Ne5 Bxe5 19.dxe5 Rfb8 20.Bxa6 Rxa6
21.Bd4 Rb4 22.f3 Rc4 23.Qe2 Ndxc5 24.Nxc5 Nxc5 25.Rc1 Nd7 26.Rxc4 dxc4 27.Qxc4 Nb8 28.Bc5 Qd7 29.Qb3 Ra8 30.Rd1 Qc8
31.Bb6 Kf7 32.Rd8 Qa6 33.Bc5 1-0

Spiny Norman
30-01-2008, 06:30 AM
Will a win or a draw in the next round be enough now? I would have thought so. I guess we're waiting to see who the next opponent will be. Over to you Pax ....

pax
30-01-2008, 08:53 AM
Will a win or a draw in the next round be enough now? I would have thought so. I guess we're waiting to see who the next opponent will be. Over to you Pax ....
It depends on his opponent. If the opponent is rated over about 2390, then I think a draw will be enough. Otherwise he will need to win. Also note he will have the white pieces.

Shade Slayer
30-01-2008, 09:56 AM
24 IM Zhao, Zong-Yuan 5.0 AUS 2487 Goldsztejn, Gildas 5.0 FRA 2380

Will a draw be enough?

Capablanca-Fan
30-01-2008, 10:26 AM
24 IM Zhao, Zong-Yuan 5.0 AUS 2487 Goldsztejn, Gildas 5.0 FRA 2380

Will a draw be enough?He'll probably want to push for a win with White against someone rated 100 points below him.

pax
30-01-2008, 10:28 AM
24 IM Zhao, Zong-Yuan 5.0 AUS 2487 Goldsztejn, Gildas 5.0 FRA 2380

Will a draw be enough?

That's a nasty piece of luck. His average opposition rating is now 2519.3, which means he requires a win to secure the norm. If the average was 2520.5, then a draw would have been sufficient.

Still, I would confidently back Zhao to win with the white pieces. Even if he only manages to draw, his norm chances will stay alive in the final round.

Goldsztein has not had a great tournament - he has not scored against a player rated higher than 2183.

This is one case where the use of 'averaged' performance ratings hurts Zhao. The three lower rated players pulls down Zhao's average opponent rating. 5.5 against a field including Goldsztein is easily above 2600 using the true performance rating (rating at which the expected score equals actual score).

Bereaved
31-01-2008, 12:32 AM
Stem game for tonight from Zhao"



[Event "EU-chT (Men) 16th"]
[Site "Crete"]
[Date "2007.11.05"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Volokitin, Andrei"]
[Black "Wojtaszek, Radoslaw"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C96"]
[WhiteElo "2678"]
[BlackElo "2635"]
[Annotator "Ftacnik"]
[PlyCount "66"]
[EventDate "2007.10.28"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "GRE"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2007.11.14"]
[WhiteTeam "Ukraine"]
[BlackTeam "Poland"]
[WhiteTeamCountry "UKR"]
[BlackTeamCountry "POL"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 d5 {The chess theory marches on and this shocking
move was borned only in the year 2007! Black hopes to benefit from white's
slow, academic way of queenside development.} 11. d4 (11. exd5 e4 12. Ng5 Nxd5 13. Nxe4 f5 14. Ng3 f4 15. Ne4 f3 16. d4 fxg2 17. Qh5 (17. Ng3 Qd6 18. Qd3 (18. Be4 Bb7 19. Nf5 Rxf5 20. Bxf5 Rf8 21. Re6 Rxf5 22. Rxd6 { 0-1 Kuznetsov,V (2448)-Gajewski,G (2556)/Pardubice 2007 (31)}) 18... g6 19. Ne4 Qe6 20. Bh6 Nf4 21. Bxf4 Rxf4 22. Nbd2 Qf7 23. a4 Bh4 24. axb5 Bb7 25. Rxa5 Rxe4 26. Nxe4 Bxe4 27. Qe3 Bxc2 { 1/2 Wang Hao (2624)-Jones,G (2526)/Liverpool 2007 (104)}) 17... g6 18. Qh6 Rf5 19. Ng3 Bf8 20. Qd2 Rf7 21. b3 Nf4 22. Ne4 Nxh3+ 23. Kxg2 Qd7 24. Qe3 Bb7 { 0-1 Gouliev,N (2560)-Fressinet,L (2654)/Ajaccio 2007 (36)}) 11... dxe4 12. Nxe5 c5 13. Bg5 Bb7 14. dxc5 (14. Nd2 cxd4 15. cxd4 Re8 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Nxe4 Bxe5 18. dxe5 Rxe5 19. b4 Nc6 20. Nc5 Qxd1 21. Raxd1 Rxe1+ 22. Rxe1 Nxb4 23. Bb3 {0-1 Charbonneau,P (2503)-Benjamin,J (2576)/ICC INT 2007 (80)}) 14... Qc7 15. Bxf6 {Should this move fail on tactical grounds it will amount to a real
positional crime! From now on Volokitin will fight for a lost case.} (15. c6
Rad8 16. Nd2 Nxc6 17. Nxc6 Qxc6 18. Qe2 e3 19. Nf3 exf2+ 20. Qxf2 ) 15...
Rad8 (15... Bxf6 16. Nd7 Rfd8 17. Nxf6+ gxf6 18. Qg4+ ) 16. Qe2 (16. Nd2 Bxf6 17. c6 (17. Ng4 Bg5 18. Ne3 Nc4 19. Nexc4 (19. Re2 Nxb2 ) 19... bxc4 20. Re3 Bxe3 21. fxe3 Qxc5 ) 17... Bxe5 18. cxb7 Nc4 19. Re2 Bf4) 16... Bxf6 17. Ng4 (17. c6 Nxc6 18. Nxc6 Qxc6 19. Bxe4 Qxe4 20. Qxe4 Bxe4 21. Rxe4 Rd1+ 22. Kh2 a5 ) 17... Bg5 18. Ne3 (18. b4 f5 19. Ne3 (19. bxa5 fxg4 20. hxg4 Qxc5 ) 19... f4) (18. Bxe4 Rfe8 ) 18... f5 19. b4 f4 ( 19... Nc6 20. a4 bxa4 21. Rxa4 Ne5 22. Rd1 ) 20. Nf1 (20. bxa5 fxe3 21. fxe3 Qxc5 ) 20... f3 {The punishment comes at a speed of light, all black pieces play near to their maximal strength.} (20... e3 21. fxe3 (21. bxa5 f3 ) 21... Nc4 22. e4 ) 21. gxf3 e3 22. fxe3 (22. Nxe3 Bxf3 23. Qf1 Bf4 24. Ng2 Nc4 ) 22... Rxf3 23. e4 (23. bxa5 Rg3+ ) 23... Rdf8 { White position makes an impression of a shattered dream, his king is naked and pieces still in disarray.} 24. Qg2 (24. Nbd2 Rxc3 25. Rac1 Nc4 26. Bb3 Rg3+ 27. Kh1 Rxh3+ 28. Kg2 Rh6 ) (24. bxa5 Qxc5+ 25. Kh1 Rxh3+ 26. Kg2 Bc8 27. Nbd2 Bh4 ) 24... Bh4 25. Nbd2 Rxc3 26. Rec1 Bc8 27. bxa5 {The long wait for the consumption of the knight was not pleasant for White and the joy will be very short lived.} (27. Bb3+ Nxb3 28. Rxc3 Nxa1 29. Nf3 Bf6 ) 27... Qxc5+ 28. Kh1 Rf2 29. Bb3+ (29. Qg1 Rxh3+ 30. Nh2 Rfxh2+ ) 29... Kh8 30. Rxc3 Qxc3 31. Qxf2 Bxf2 32. Rd1 Bxh3 33. Nh2 (33. Kh2 Bg4 ) 33... Qg3 0-1

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

billross
31-01-2008, 03:09 AM
24 IM Zhao, Zong-Yuan 5.0 AUS 2487 Goldsztejn, Gildas 5.0 FRA 2380

Will a draw be enough?

Looks like 1-0 on website

well done Yuan

pax
31-01-2008, 03:11 AM
Goldsztein blundered just as it was looking tough to win for Zhao.

GM number three (or is that one)..:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

billross
31-01-2008, 03:31 AM
Goldsztein blundered just as it was looking tough to win for Zhao.

GM number three (or is that one)..:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Here is the game, no doubt someone clever can put it on properly!!

[White "Zhao"]
[Black "Goldsztejn"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C96"]


1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O
Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 d5 11. d4 dxe4 12. Nxe5 c5
13. Be3 Bb7 14. Nd2 Nd5 15. Nxe4 Nxe3 16. fxe3 Qd5 17. Nf3 cxd4 18. exd4 f5 19.
Ned2 Bd6 20. Qe2 Bg3 21. Qe6+ Qxe6 22. Rxe6 Bd5 23. Re2 Rae8 24. Ne5 Nc6 25.
Bb3 Bxb3 26. axb3 Nxe5 27. dxe5 Bxe5 28. Nf3 Bh2+ 29. Kf1 Rxe2 30. Kxe2 Rf6 1-0

Ian Murray
31-01-2008, 03:48 AM
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 d5 11. d4 dxe4 12. Nxe5 c5 13. Be3 Bb7 14. Nd2 Nd5 15. Nxe4 Nxe3 16. fxe3 Qd5 17. Nf3 cxd4 18. exd4 f5 19. Ned2 Bd6 20. Qe2 Bg3 21. Qe6+ Qxe6 22. Rxe6 Bd5 23. Re2 Rae8 24. Ne5 Nc6 25. Bb3 Bxb3 26. axb3 Nxe5 27. dxe5 Bxe5 28. Nf3 Bh2+ 29. Kf1 Rxe2 30. Kxe2 Rf6 1-0

Spiny Norman
31-01-2008, 04:14 AM
Is that PGN correct? 30...Rf6 looks like suicide, not a blunder ... maybe a severe case of chess blindness?

Regardless, this is WONDERFUL news for Aussie chess. Warm congratulations to Zhao! I'm sure he'll be a wonderful player and ambassador on the top boards for many years to come.

MichaelBaron
31-01-2008, 09:06 AM
Stem game for tonight from Zhao"



[Event "EU-chT (Men) 16th"]
[Site "Crete"]
[Date "2007.11.05"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Volokitin, Andrei"]
[Black "Wojtaszek, Radoslaw"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C96"]
[WhiteElo "2678"]
[BlackElo "2635"]
[Annotator "Ftacnik"]
[PlyCount "66"]
[EventDate "2007.10.28"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "GRE"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2007.11.14"]
[WhiteTeam "Ukraine"]
[BlackTeam "Poland"]
[WhiteTeamCountry "UKR"]
[BlackTeamCountry "POL"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 d5 {The chess theory marches on and this shocking
move was borned only in the year 2007! Black hopes to benefit from white's
slow, academic way of queenside development.} 11. d4 (11. exd5 e4 12. Ng5 Nxd5 13. Nxe4 f5 14. Ng3 f4 15. Ne4 f3 16. d4 fxg2 17. Qh5 (17. Ng3 Qd6 18. Qd3 (18. Be4 Bb7 19. Nf5 Rxf5 20. Bxf5 Rf8 21. Re6 Rxf5 22. Rxd6 { 0-1 Kuznetsov,V (2448)-Gajewski,G (2556)/Pardubice 2007 (31)}) 18... g6 19. Ne4 Qe6 20. Bh6 Nf4 21. Bxf4 Rxf4 22. Nbd2 Qf7 23. a4 Bh4 24. axb5 Bb7 25. Rxa5 Rxe4 26. Nxe4 Bxe4 27. Qe3 Bxc2 { 1/2 Wang Hao (2624)-Jones,G (2526)/Liverpool 2007 (104)}) 17... g6 18. Qh6 Rf5 19. Ng3 Bf8 20. Qd2 Rf7 21. b3 Nf4 22. Ne4 Nxh3+ 23. Kxg2 Qd7 24. Qe3 Bb7 { 0-1 Gouliev,N (2560)-Fressinet,L (2654)/Ajaccio 2007 (36)}) 11... dxe4 12. Nxe5 c5 13. Bg5 Bb7 14. dxc5 (14. Nd2 cxd4 15. cxd4 Re8 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Nxe4 Bxe5 18. dxe5 Rxe5 19. b4 Nc6 20. Nc5 Qxd1 21. Raxd1 Rxe1+ 22. Rxe1 Nxb4 23. Bb3 {0-1 Charbonneau,P (2503)-Benjamin,J (2576)/ICC INT 2007 (80)}) 14... Qc7 15. Bxf6 {Should this move fail on tactical grounds it will amount to a real
positional crime! From now on Volokitin will fight for a lost case.} (15. c6
Rad8 16. Nd2 Nxc6 17. Nxc6 Qxc6 18. Qe2 e3 19. Nf3 exf2+ 20. Qxf2 ) 15...
Rad8 (15... Bxf6 16. Nd7 Rfd8 17. Nxf6+ gxf6 18. Qg4+ ) 16. Qe2 (16. Nd2 Bxf6 17. c6 (17. Ng4 Bg5 18. Ne3 Nc4 19. Nexc4 (19. Re2 Nxb2 ) 19... bxc4 20. Re3 Bxe3 21. fxe3 Qxc5 ) 17... Bxe5 18. cxb7 Nc4 19. Re2 Bf4) 16... Bxf6 17. Ng4 (17. c6 Nxc6 18. Nxc6 Qxc6 19. Bxe4 Qxe4 20. Qxe4 Bxe4 21. Rxe4 Rd1+ 22. Kh2 a5 ) 17... Bg5 18. Ne3 (18. b4 f5 19. Ne3 (19. bxa5 fxg4 20. hxg4 Qxc5 ) 19... f4) (18. Bxe4 Rfe8 ) 18... f5 19. b4 f4 ( 19... Nc6 20. a4 bxa4 21. Rxa4 Ne5 22. Rd1 ) 20. Nf1 (20. bxa5 fxe3 21. fxe3 Qxc5 ) 20... f3 {The punishment comes at a speed of light, all black pieces play near to their maximal strength.} (20... e3 21. fxe3 (21. bxa5 f3 ) 21... Nc4 22. e4 ) 21. gxf3 e3 22. fxe3 (22. Nxe3 Bxf3 23. Qf1 Bf4 24. Ng2 Nc4 ) 22... Rxf3 23. e4 (23. bxa5 Rg3+ ) 23... Rdf8 { White position makes an impression of a shattered dream, his king is naked and pieces still in disarray.} 24. Qg2 (24. Nbd2 Rxc3 25. Rac1 Nc4 26. Bb3 Rg3+ 27. Kh1 Rxh3+ 28. Kg2 Rh6 ) (24. bxa5 Qxc5+ 25. Kh1 Rxh3+ 26. Kg2 Bc8 27. Nbd2 Bh4 ) 24... Bh4 25. Nbd2 Rxc3 26. Rec1 Bc8 27. bxa5 {The long wait for the consumption of the knight was not pleasant for White and the joy will be very short lived.} (27. Bb3+ Nxb3 28. Rxc3 Nxa1 29. Nf3 Bf6 ) 27... Qxc5+ 28. Kh1 Rf2 29. Bb3+ (29. Qg1 Rxh3+ 30. Nh2 Rfxh2+ ) 29... Kh8 30. Rxc3 Qxc3 31. Qxf2 Bxf2 32. Rd1 Bxh3 33. Nh2 (33. Kh2 Bg4 ) 33... Qg3 0-1

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

This was a very interesting game and it got annotated on a russian chess websites www.chesspro.ru few months ago. Looks impressive for black. However, i think the reason d5 worked so well should be attributed to its :hmm: surprise value :hmm: As the move going to get scrtinized by chess analysts a bit more, it will prob lose most of its gloss.

Ian Murray
31-01-2008, 09:25 AM
Well done Yuan! You made it look easy, with three norms in a couple of months.

It's been a long time between drinks, but at last we have our third GM, and a new generation of world-class young players to follow Yuan's lead.

I first met Yuan at the 1999 Australian Juniors in Hervey Bay, when he was 12. Smerdon won the title that year, and Zhao had to wait till 2001 for his turn.

Smurf is playing consistently above 2500, and it's only a matter of time before he pushes his rating above that barrier and gains his title.

pax
31-01-2008, 09:47 AM
I have to say it is very, very impressive to collect three norms inside of two months.

Igor_Goldenberg
31-01-2008, 09:51 AM
I have to say it is very, very impressive to collect three norms inside of two months.
With a rating above 2500 in the next rating list he becomes officially a GM:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

pax
31-01-2008, 09:57 AM
With a rating above 2500 in the next rating list he becomes officially a GM:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
He has already satisfied the 2500 requirement, so it won't matter what his next published rating is (though it is likely to be over 2530).

Basil
31-01-2008, 10:57 AM
Congratulations Yuan.

You make me very happy - for me - for you - and for this lot - I think they're quite chuffed!

Basil
31-01-2008, 11:03 AM
Here's I song I wrote:

Yuan day, you're gonna get caught ...
Yuan day, you're gonna get caught ...
Yuan day, you're gonna get caught ... with your Zong Gong

:clap:

sung to the Hole-poof Underdaks tune

Denis_Jessop
31-01-2008, 11:31 AM
To add to the picture Yuan's last round opponent is:


10 IM Zhao, Zong-Yuan 6.0 AUS 2487 GM Socko, Bartosz 6.0 POL 2635

His current rating of 2487 does not include any of his GM norm tournaments, being only up to and including the games against Carlsson.

On my calculations, the average rating of his opponents for the 10 rounds is 2531, 2 points above the minimum needed for a norm over 10 rounds with a score of 6 (which he already has).

Hearty congratulations to Yuan who fully deserves his title after a stellar few weeks finishing off a great year for him. :clap: :clap: :clap:

On an earlier point raised on this thread, I believe that it is likely that Yuan will now go on to complete his medical degree once he has graduated in pharmacy. What a sucker for punishment :D (Or what a great talent.)

DJ

pax
31-01-2008, 11:43 AM
There is official confirmation of the norm on the website.

frogmogdog
31-01-2008, 12:15 PM
also moulthun's draw with 2632 GM is worth a look, amazing game.

Capablanca-Fan
31-01-2008, 12:33 PM
He has already satisfied the 2500 requirement, so it won't matter what his next published rating is (though it is likely to be over 2530).
So is it now only the formality of the ACF applying for his title?

pax
31-01-2008, 12:36 PM
So is it now only the formality of the ACF applying for his title?
I guess so.

1min_grandmaster
31-01-2008, 12:37 PM
Congratulations to Zong Yuan Zhao on an excellent achievement, especially so quickly!

There is an interview with him straight after he achieved the 3rd norm:

http://www.chessvibes.com/videos/lang_nlaustralie-heeft-een-derde-gmlang_nllang_enaustralia-has-a-3rd-gmlang_en/

pax
31-01-2008, 01:27 PM
[Event "Gibtelecom Masters"]
[Site "Gibraltar"]
[Date "2008.01.30"]
[Round "9.28"]
[White "Ly, Moulthun"]
[Black "Mikhalevski, Victor"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C30"]
[WhiteElo "2319"]
[BlackElo "2632"]
[PlyCount "107"]
[EventDate "2008.01.22"]



1. e4 e5 2. f4 Bc5 3. Nf3 d6 4. c3 Nf6 5. fxe5 dxe5 6. Nxe5 O-O 7. d4 Nxe4 8.
Qd3 Bf5 9. Qf3 g6 10. Bc4 Bd6 11. g4 Qh4+ 12. Kf1 Bxe5 13. gxf5 Nd6 14. Bb3 Bg7
15. fxg6 hxg6 16. Rg1 Re8 17. Be3 Kf8 18. Bf2 Qh6 19. Na3 Nd7 20. Nb5 Nf6 21.
Nxc7 Re4 22. Bg3 Nf5 23. Nxa8 Ne3+ 24. Ke2 Nc4+ 25. Qxe4 Qd2+ 26. Kf1 Nxe4 27.
Bxc4 Qxb2 28. Rd1 Nd2+ 29. Rxd2 Qxd2 30. Bd6+ Kg8 31. Rg3 b5 32. Bb3 b4 33.
Bxb4 Qxh2 34. Rf3 Qh1+ 35. Kf2 Bf6 36. Bd5 Kg7 37. Ke2 Qh5 38. Bc6 g5 39. Kd3
g4 40. Re3 Qf5+ 41. Kc4 Qf2 42. Re4 Qf1+ 43. Kb3 Qd1+ 44. Kc4 Qf1+ 45. Kd5 Qf5+
46. Kd6 g3 47. Re2 Qg4 48. Rg2 Bd8 49. Bd5 Kf6 50. Rg1 Qf5 51. Rxg3 Qf4+ 52.
Kd7 Qf5+ 53. Kd6 Qf4+ 54. Kd7 1/2-1/2

A crazy game, much of it played in mutual time trouble. Mihalevski misplayed in time trouble, but then Moulthun missed the win with 24.Kf2.

Garrett
31-01-2008, 02:15 PM
fantastic achievement !

MichaelBaron
31-01-2008, 02:16 PM
A crazy game, much of it played in mutual time trouble. Mihalevski misplayed in time trouble, but then Moulthun missed the win with 24.Kf2.

Still, a very good game by Mouthun :clap:

arosar
31-01-2008, 02:17 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/our-new-21yearold-chess-grandmaster/2008/01/31/1201714123876.html

They did that really quick. I wonder who organised that. (Though, pax, you could have recommend a friggin' better photo!!).

AR

Aaron Guthrie
31-01-2008, 02:43 PM
Congratulations Zhao!

pax
31-01-2008, 02:45 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/our-new-21yearold-chess-grandmaster/2008/01/31/1201714123876.html

They did that really quick. I wonder who organised that. (Though, pax, you could have recommend a friggin' better photo!!).

Too quick. It's pretty badly written. I had no idea I was going to be quoted, I thought I was just giving background information and context!

Sorry about the photo. I could only find three recent ones. If you want to suggest a better photo, send me a link.

Denis_Jessop
31-01-2008, 02:46 PM
So is it now only the formality of the ACF applying for his title?

That's right. The ACF submits the application to the FIDE Qualifications Commission which then awards the title. It usually does this at its meeting preceding the FIDE General Assembly which is held in conjunction with the Olympiad or with the annual Board meeting. David Smerdon's title was awarded provisionally (subject to rating) at the Qualifications Commission meeting before the FIDE Board meeting last year. Yuan's will be awarded later this year, I believe.

DJ

pax
31-01-2008, 02:58 PM
I've sent in some corrections. Hopefully these will be acted upon before it goes to print!

pax
31-01-2008, 03:00 PM
I must say, it's great to see Zhao sharing the features line with Cate Blanchett, Paul Keating, Tom Cruise and Maria Sharapova!

Ian Murray
31-01-2008, 03:55 PM
Who is this mysterious "Dr Paxman" purporting to be a spokesperson for Australian chess? :)

Basil
31-01-2008, 04:05 PM
I appreciated the interview link. Thanks, 1 Min.

pax
31-01-2008, 04:16 PM
Who is this mysterious "Dr Paxman" purporting to be a spokesperson for Australian chess? :)

I know, I know. We're trying to get hold of Zhao, Ian and Manuel to get some more authoritative quotes :)

arosar
31-01-2008, 04:21 PM
Is there an ACF PRO? I thought it was some bloke named Rumbukwella or somebody.

AR

pax
31-01-2008, 04:34 PM
Is there an ACF PRO? I thought it was some bloke named Rumbukwella or somebody.
Maybe, but you've gotta move quickly on stuff like this. Wait til tomorrow, and suddenly it aint news anymore.

pax
31-01-2008, 05:39 PM
The reporter has managed to speak with both Ian and Yuan, so expect a revised version of the SMH article pretty soon (and in the print edition).

pax
31-01-2008, 10:32 PM
Nakamura has remarkably bounced back from his loss to Yuan with five consecutive wins, finishing equal first, and will play off against "Great Bu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmqbO-lY0LM)".

Garvinator
31-01-2008, 11:19 PM
Pax now is front and centre on www.susanpolgar.blogspot.com ;)

Spiny Norman
01-02-2008, 05:19 AM
Bergil, is that the right PGN? Monroi.com shows something quite different (with Zhao opening with 1.Nf3) ... http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.com/gib2008/live/monroi.html

Incidentally, Ben Lazarus is still playing 'live' right now ... pawn down in a rook ending

Rhubarb
01-02-2008, 06:08 AM
That's right. The ACF submits the application to the FIDE Qualifications Commission which then awards the title.Yes, as soon as Yuan sends me scans for each of the three norm certificates we can make the formal application.

The procedure these days is that FIDE will post the norms on their site for 60 days to allow time for any objections. The title will then be ratified at the 2nd quarter Presidential Board meeting, whenever that is - probably around April.

bergil
01-02-2008, 06:12 AM
Bergil, is that the right PGN? Monroi.com shows something quite different (with Zhao opening with 1.Nf3) ... http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.com/gib2008/live/monroi.html

Incidentally, Ben Lazarus is still playing 'live' right now ... pawn down in a rook endingYour right I was too busy playing to notice thanks mate

Spiny Norman
01-02-2008, 06:13 AM
Incidentally, Ben Lazarus is still playing 'live' right now ... pawn down in a rook ending
Drawn ... well done!

dunwannapost
01-02-2008, 07:36 AM
Congratulations Yuan, its a fantastic achievement to get the norms in such a short space of time!

Thanks for the link as well Jason.

eclectic
01-02-2008, 07:43 AM
Yes, as soon as Yuan sends me scans for each of the three norm certificates we can make the formal application.

The procedure these days is that FIDE will post the norms on their site for 60 days to allow time for any objections. The title will then be ratified at the 2nd quarter Presidential Board meeting, whenever that is - probably around April.

if there are no objections is the conferring of the title backdated?

lochness88
01-02-2008, 08:51 AM
Wow this is exciting, 3 GM's with such a small playing culture. Congratulations Zhao!

pax
01-02-2008, 09:21 AM
New version of the SMH article:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rookie-a-grandmaster/2008/01/31/1201714150592.html

Spiny Norman
01-02-2008, 09:59 AM
Much better version ... I can read without wincing! :lol: Good job Pax! Nice to see the comments from Ian Rogers and the description of the tension at the critical moment. I can just imagine Zhao, hand hovering over his knight, looking for traps that aren't there, just in case!

Garvinator
01-02-2008, 12:08 PM
Wow this is exciting, 3 GM's with such a small playing culture. Congratulations Zhao!
We also have GM Dejan Antic living out here also. So that is 4 GM's in the country and hopefully Smurf to join soon.

bobby1972
01-02-2008, 01:45 PM
numero uno.our new leader.GM Zhao

pax
01-02-2008, 04:15 PM
You know it occurs to me that our Olympiad team (assuming all qualified parties apply) may not actually be any weaker despite the painful loss of Rogers.

A team of e.g Zhao, Smerdon, Solomon, Johansen and Xie (or substitute Antic for Xie if he's eligible) could be almost our strongest yet. Smerdon and Solomon are both at their peaks, and Johansen can always be a menace!

Capablanca-Fan
01-02-2008, 05:15 PM
You know it occurs to me that our Olympiad team (assuming all qualified parties apply) may not actually be any weaker despite the painful loss of Rogers.
Hard to compare with his experience.


A team of e.g Zhao, Smerdon, Solomon, Johansen and Xie (or substitute Antic for Xie if he's eligible) could be almost our strongest yet. Smerdon and Solomon are both at their peaks,
Hopefully you mean that they are on form. At the age of 23, I would presume that Smurf is not at his lifetime playing strength peak. Solo is about 10 years past the average peak for a chessplayer, but is playing as well as ever.


and Johansen can always be a menace!
Certainly wouldn't want to leave him out.

So has Xie gone up, compared to what you said a few weeks ago (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=178934&postcount=232)?


In the chasing group are Wohl, Lane, Xie and Wallace. Wohl has the best chance of breaking into the top five, because of his great 2006 Olympiad and because he plays so many European tournaments that he is capable of stringing a number of good results together quite quickly.

pax
01-02-2008, 05:45 PM
Hard to compare with his experience.
Yes, but the improvement in the others may compensate.



Hopefully you mean that they are on form. At the age of 23, I would presume that Smurf is not at his lifetime playing strength peak. Solo is about 10 years past the average peak for a chessplayer, but is playing as well as ever.
Peak so far - certainly Smurf has far to go.


So has Xie gone up, compared to what you said a few weeks ago (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=178934&postcount=232)?
What I said is still valid. Wohl has the best chance of breaking into a top five including Antic as he is so active internationally. In a top five without Antic, either Xie or Wohl could be in the mix.

Black Vomit (Axiom)
01-02-2008, 06:07 PM
Zhao GM !

Basil
01-02-2008, 07:22 PM
Good solid story on ABC radio (am) this afternoon on Yuan and his achievements. Interview and soundbytes from Dr Zworestine and Ian Rogers. Good stuff. Anyone know who was behind this?

Tony_Chow
01-02-2008, 08:09 PM
Congratulations to GM Zhong Yuan ZHAO. It seems that he decided to take a summer (winter in Europe) holiday and collect a GM title along the way. :clap:

Metro
01-02-2008, 08:24 PM
Wow this is exciting, 3 GM's with such a small playing culture. Congratulations Zhao!

Congratulations Yuan:clap: :clap: :clap:

C'mon David let's make it 4:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

pax
01-02-2008, 08:30 PM
Good solid story on ABC radio (am) this afternoon on Yuan and his achievements. Interview and soundbytes from Dr Zworestine and Ian Rogers. Good stuff. Anyone know who was behind this?
Don't know, but Adam Sandler did a piece on ABC 702 Sydney - he is a known chess sympathiser (former player himself??), so it's possible he picked it up on his own from the SMH report. AM may then have picked it up from local radio.

Capablanca-Fan
01-02-2008, 11:59 PM
Don't know, but Adam Sandler did a piece on ABC 702 Sydney - he is a known chess sympathiser (former player himself??), so it's possible he picked it up on his own from the SMH report. AM may then have picked it up from local radio.
Was that meant to be Leonid Sandler, IM?

arosar
02-02-2008, 09:31 AM
Pax is just confused. He prolly meant Adam Spencer.

AR

pax
02-02-2008, 10:37 AM
Pax is just confused. He prolly meant Adam Spencer.
Oops. Yes, Adam Spencer.

Denis_Jessop
02-02-2008, 10:53 AM
There is a good interview with Yuan and Ian Rogers on Chess Vibes

http://www.chessvibes.com/videos/zong-yuan-zhao-gm/

DJ

Adamski
02-02-2008, 11:11 PM
Good solid story on ABC radio (am) this afternoon on Yuan and his achievements. Interview and soundbytes from Dr Zworestine and Ian Rogers. Good stuff. Anyone know who was behind this?
Almost certainly Ian Rogers. I heard him on ABC Sydney on Friday morning interviewed By Adam Spencer on Zhao. I have heard him on ABC Radio several times in the past on various chess stories- he is a semi-regular - and usually on the breakfast show.

And as everyone else has said, hearty congratulations to Zhao. Has anyone, anywhere ever achieved the GM title in 2 months elapsed time?

Kevin Bonham
02-02-2008, 11:14 PM
And as everyone else has said, hearty congratulations to Zhao. Has anyone, anywhere ever achieved the GM title in 2 months elapsed time?

There are various ways to gain a GM title in a single hit. Whether anyone has done it by getting three norms in such a short space of time is the question.

Garvinator
02-02-2008, 11:27 PM
Whether anyone has done it by getting three norms in such a short space of time is the question.
Add in the 2500 rating requirement.

Rhubarb
05-02-2008, 06:54 AM
if there are no objections is the conferring of the title backdated?Initially I thought this question wasn't really relevant. FIDE has introduced the 60-day-objection rule for very good reasons (just ask Michael Baron). In addition, applicants become titled only when FIDE says so.

But, unofficially: ZYZ's time-to-GM status was the date of R1 of his first norm (Dec 1) to the date of the round where he first made his 3rd norm (with 2500) which was R9 (Jan 30) of the 10-round Gibtel. I make that 61 days flat.

Tony_Chow
05-02-2008, 09:27 PM
On the front page of the ABC website is the following report:

Student becomes youngest Aussie chess GM
By Paula Kruger
Posted Fri Feb 1, 2008 4:00pm AEDT

HG Wells once called chess a "curse upon man". That may be so, but in Gibraltar at an international chess festival a young Australian is feeling truly blessed.

Zong-Yuan Zhao has just become the third Australian to achieve Grand Master status, the highest title afforded to a chess player.

Not only is the 21-year-old student the youngest Australian ever to become a Grand Master, but he achieved this feat in just seven weeks, when the process usually takes years.

He hopes hoped his achievement will help raise the profile of the sport in Australia.

Australia's first ever Grand Master, Ian Rogers, was at the Gibraltar Tournament when Mr Zhao gained the title by defeating French player Gildas Goldsztein.

Mr Rogers says becoming a Grand Master is no easy feat.

"You need a series of world class performances and Yuan has achieved them in seven weeks, it's a record," he said.

"No one has ever scored three Grand Master results in such a short period of time. It's absolutely incredible.

"In fact, in December he played his first ever Grand Master tournament, he won it. His second one, he won that as well.

"[He is the] first player in history to win the first two Grand Master tournaments he's played in and this tournament in Gibraltar's been a bigger open tournament with many more Grand Masters in it, but he came through."

Dr Charles Zworestine is the president of the New South Wales Junior Chess League and is a close friend of the new Grand Master.

He says he is not sure how the chess champion will cope with his new found fame.

"He's actually very humble, he is a very down to earth, easy going sort of person," he said.

"We all believed that he had the potential to get the Grand Master title.

"I've known him personally since he was nine or 10 years old, and was always impressed with his enthusiasm and his keenness and his love of the game.

"He improved very quickly from a young age and in fact got the international master title at the age of just 14.

"When it happens that young, which is very rare in Australian chess, certainly everybody harbours thoughts of a Grand Master title and possibly going even further.

"But as I said before, as he chose to concentrate on his studies, it made us think that it was more likely to be a slower process than what has happened over the last two months."

Australia has more than 30,000 registered chess players, but the sport has a low profile here compared to Europe and North America.

Dr Zworestine hopes Zong-Yuan Zhao's international success can change that.

"It is an event that is recognised world wide as significant for Zong-Yuan's youth and the speed of his accomplishment," he said.

"If it leads to a bit more government support for chess and possibly some sponsorship and those sort of things, it will all go well for the future of Australian chess generally and have other young players succeed as well as Zong-Yuan."

http://abc.com.au/

Basil
05-02-2008, 10:43 PM
This interview is a transcript of the radio interview. It seems not even Aunty is beyond a little re-purposing. I should care. Great coverage.

Johanath
05-02-2008, 11:10 PM
There is a good interview with Yuan and Ian Rogers on Chess Vibes

http://www.chessvibes.com/videos/zong-yuan-zhao-gm/

DJ

Thanks for sharing. Can't blame ZY for bubbling with excitement throughout the interview - a truly remarkable feat for a very well-deserved title. Congratulations ZY!!!

Ian_Rogers
06-02-2008, 08:38 PM
Just to clarify my seven weeks claim on the radio, I was taking the figure from the day Zhao achieved his first norm to the day he achieved his third (51 days). Greg's 61 day figure is at least equally valid.

Ian

peter_parr
12-02-2008, 10:57 AM
Bu Xiangzhi (China) scored his first GM norm in Paks, Hungary 21 Sep – 29 Sep 1999, his second GM norm at the Kluger Memorial First Saturday tournament in Budapest Hungary 3 Oct – 13 Oct 1999, and his third GM norm in the Qingdao Cup in China 18-25 Oct 1999 (as reported in my SMH column October 1999).

3 norms in 35 days. He became a GM on 25th October 1999 at the age of 13 years, 10 months, 13 days.

This may not be a world record with over 1000 active grandmasters in the world in addition to hundreds of inactive GM’s.

There have been numerous tournaments, particularly in Eastern Europe, following after each other and 35 days may not be the record.

It was of course a great achievement for Zong-Yuan Zhao to achieve 3 GM norms and a 2500+ rating in 61 days becoming Australia’s third ever cross-board grandmaster. (Note 4 Australians achieved the correspondence GM title).

Full report in SMH (4th February 2008)
SMH (http://www.chessdiscountsales.com/news/2008.htm)

eclectic
12-02-2008, 11:24 AM
... and his third GM norm in the Qingdao Cup in China 18-25 Oct 1999 (as reported in my SMH column October 1999).

3 norms in 35 days. He became a GM on 25th October 1999 at the age of 13 years, 10 months, 13 days.

that seems to answer the question i asked shirty (greg canfell, fide ratings officer) as to exactly when zhao would be deemed to have become a GM upon fide ratification

i note too there was a lack of fanfare in the just released acf newsletter concerning zhao's meritorious achievement with it being simply appearing briefly in "overseas news" a fair way down the page

Ian_Rogers
12-02-2008, 01:45 PM
Bu's 'records' (including that of youngest GM) have always been under a cloud because his final norm was played at too fast a pace (games per day) for the regulations at the time.
When the application was received, the norm was queried since the event was claimed to have been run over just five days. Embarrassed when the situation became apparent, the CCF then 'explained' that Bu had played some of his games before the official start of the tournament and therefore had played only one game a day. This was accepted by FIDE.
Peter Parr did not express any doubts about Bu's achievement in 1999 so it is not surprising that he prefers Bu's claims to the record to Zhao's now.

Rhubarb
12-02-2008, 02:43 PM
that seems to answer the question i asked shirty (greg canfell, fide ratings officer) as to exactly when zhao would be deemed to have become a GM upon fide ratificationOkay, I stand corrected. FIDE does make an official distinction between when the title was awarded (0.4 (http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=B0100)), from which the title is valid, and when the title was achieved (0.54), which is the date of the final norm (or subsequent necessary rating).

eclectic
13-02-2008, 08:18 AM
Embarrassed when the situation became apparent, the CCF then 'explained' that Bu had played some of his games before the official start of the tournament and therefore had played only one game a day. This was accepted by FIDE.


i thought there was some regulation which said you couldn't design or alter a tournament format to suit a particular person :rolleyes:

peter_parr
20-02-2008, 10:34 AM
Bu's 'records' (including that of youngest GM) have always been under a cloud because his final norm was played at too fast a pace (games per day) for the regulations at the time.

When the application was received, the norm was queried since the event was claimed to have been run over just five days. Embarrassed when the situation became apparent, the CCF then 'explained' that Bu had played some of his games before the official start of the tournament and therefore had played only one game a day. This was accepted by FIDE.

The World Chess Federation (FIDE) awards Grandmaster titles. FIDE confirmed Bu Xiangzhi (China) became a Grandmaster after scoring 3 GM norms in 35 days – PAKS Hungary 21 Sep – 29 Sep 1999, Budapest, Hungary 3 Oct – 13 Oct 1999 and Qingdao China 18-25 Oct 1999.

There was a query concerning Bu’s third norm answered by China and accepted by FIDE as Rogers states. It is a matter of FIDE historical records that Bu was awarded the GM title after scoring 3 GM norms in a total period of 35 days – a fantastic result for a 13-year-old.


Peter Parr did not express any doubts about Bu's achievement in 1999 so it is not surprising that he prefers Bu's claims to the record to Zhao's now.

My work on four separate FIDE commissions ended in 1994. I was not in Qingdao but of course accept the decision made by FIDE after investigating the matter.

It’s not a matter of preferring Bu’s claims to the record to Zhao’s now?
Bu achieved his GM title in 35 days and Zhao in 61 days – this is simply a fact of FIDE.

There have been numerous GM titles awarded by FIDE particularly in recent years and Bu may in fact not hold the record – with over 1000 active GM’s and hundreds inactive who knows how many GM titles were earned in a short period?

The performance of Zhao was of course outstanding.
His first GM norm was 100% correct
His second GM norm was 100% correct.
His third GM norm was 100% correct.
His 2500+ rating was easily achieved from these results.

I watched all Zhao’s games live when possible and was impressed not only by the results but by the excellent handling of the clock (not short of time – usually ahead on time) and the fact that Zhao rarely had a bad position. I thought his play in Gibraltar (his third norm) in particular was of a very high standard.

As a comparison to others I would suggest stating World Champion Vishy Anand took 6 months to achieve his 3 norms – Zhao did it in 61 days!
Finally it must be remembered that when two GM norms were not 100%. Australia made an application to FIDE for a GM title. FIDE considered the matter and awarded the GM title, is there any difference between China and Australia?