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jeffrei
12-06-2004, 12:03 AM
Hey y’all,

A while ago I had the idea of maintaining a list (in the ‘coaching-room’ of my house) of the top-rated juniors in Australia, ranked year-by-year…I thought it might be salutary for my students to see who the top players in Australia are for their respective age divisions. Now having a bit more spare time on my hands I thought I’d actually draw up this list:

[Age Division][Born in 19XX or later][Name][State][Rating]

U18 1986 Zong-Yuan ZHAO (NSW): 2424
U17 1987 Sam CHOW (Vic) : 2162
U16 1988 Ronald YU (NSW) : 2148
U15 1989 Michael WEI (ACT) : 1953
U14 1990 Raymond SONG (NSW) : 1903
U13 1991 Raymond SONG (NSW) : 1903
U12 1992 Raymond SONG (NSW) : 1903
U11 1993 Raymond SONG (NSW) : 1903
U10 1994 Raymond SONG (NSW) : 1903

GU18 1986 Catherine LIP (NSW) : 1950
GU17 1987 Michelle LEE (Vic) : 1797
GU16 1988 Michelle LEE (Vic) : 1797
GU15 1989 Michelle LEE (Vic) : 1797
GU14 1990 Michelle LEE (Vic) : 1797
GU13 1991 Angela SONG (NSW) : 1673
GU12 1992 Angela SONG (NSW) : 1673
GU11 1993 Luthien RUSSELL (Qld) : 1108
GU10 1994 Shuyu WANG (Vic) : 857

However, I’ve hit a small problem. I can’t say off the top of my head who the highest-rated GU11 and top GU10 are, and it can’t be worked out from the ‘top U12’ part of the rating list either. Is there anyone out there who could tell me?

PS: I haven’t decided whether people with ‘unreliable’ ratings should be on the list.
PPS: Nah, Asian immigration hasn't had any effect on Australian chess... :lol:

Trent Parker
12-06-2004, 12:13 AM
Why Does Born in 19XX keep rising for each raymond song? :lol:

Bill Gletsos
12-06-2004, 12:23 AM
Luthien Russell rated 1108 from QLD is the GU11. She is 10 years old.
Emma Guo at 808 from the ACT is the GU10. She is 8.

Bill Gletsos
12-06-2004, 12:25 AM
Why Does Born in 19XX keep rising for each raymond song? :lol:
Because that is not the year of birth of the player but the year of eligibility.
Provided the player is born in or after that year they are eligible.

jeffrei
12-06-2004, 12:26 AM
Thanks Bill, I've amended the list to put Luthien's name in. But I think Shuyu Wang must be the top GU10 then, because she was born in 1994 and she is rated higher than Emma. I was figuring that there was probably someone else I hadn't heard of!

Bill Gletsos
12-06-2004, 12:28 AM
Thanks Bill, I've amended the list to put Luthien's name in. But I think Shuyu Wang must be the top GU10 then, because she was born in 1994 and she is rated higher than Emma. I was figuring that there was probably someone else I hadn't heard of!
Unfortunately Shuyu Wang is on the master file as a male. :doh:
I'll fix it up.

Trent Parker
12-06-2004, 12:40 AM
ok I feel stupid now :lol: :eh: :silenced:

jenni
12-06-2004, 11:45 AM
Thanks Bill, I've amended the list to put Luthien's name in. But I think Shuyu Wang must be the top GU10 then, because she was born in 1994 and she is rated higher than Emma. I was figuring that there was probably someone else I hadn't heard of!
Sad to say - no. Thee are so few girls playing it is hard not to know them all.......

jeffrei
23-06-2004, 12:23 PM
BOYS

B18: Zong-Yuan ZHAO (NSW) - 2424
Born: 26/6/1986
State Titles:
NSW Under-12 Champion 1996
NSW Under-16 Champion 1999
National Titles:
Australian Under-12 Champion 1997 (Perth, WA)
Australian Under-12 Champion 1998 (Adelaide, SA)
Australian Under-16 Champion 2000 (Morwell, Vic)
Australian Junior Champion 2001 (Canberra, ACT)
International Titles:
International Master (2000)
Represented Australia:
World Under-12 Championship 1998 (Oropesa del Mar, Spain)
World Under-14 Championship 1999 (Oropesa del Mar, Spain)
World Under-20 Championship 1999 (Yerevan, Armenia)
World Youth Olympiad 1999 (Artek, Ukraine)
World Under-14 Championship 2000 (Oropesa del Mar, Spain)
Olympiad 2000 (Istanbul, Turkey)
World Under-20 Championship 2001 (Athens, Greece)
World Under-16 Championship 2001 (Oropesa del Mar, Spain)
British Championship 2001 (Scarborough, England)

B17: Sam CHOW (Vic) - 2162
Born: 2/7/1987
State Titles:
Victorian Under-10 Champion 1995
Victorian Under-10 Champion 1996
Victorian Under-10 Champion 1997
Victorian Under-12 Champion 1998
Victorian Under-12 Champion 1999
Victorian Junior Champion 2000
Victorian Junior Champion 2001
Victorian Under-16 Champion 2002
Victorian Under-16 Champion 2003
National Titles:
Australian Under-14 Champion 2001 (Canberra, ACT)
Australian Under-16 Champion 2003 (Adelaide, SA)
International Titles: None
Represented Australia:
World Under-16 Championship 2003 (Halkidiki, Greece)

B16: Ronald YU (NSW) - 2148
Born: 26/01/1988
State Titles:
NSW Under-14 Champion 2001
NSW Under-16 Champion 2003
NSW Junior Champion 2004
National Titles:
Australian Under-14 Champion 2002 (Sydney, NSW)
International Titles: None
Represented Australia:
World Under-16 Championship 2003 (Halkidiki, Greece)

B15: Michael WEI (ACT) - 1953
Born: 12/5/1989
State Titles:
ACT Under-10 Champion 1999
ACT Co-Champion 2001
ACT Junior Champion 2002
ACT Under-16 Champion 2003
National Titles: None.
International Titles: None
Represented Australia:
World Under-14 Championship 2003 (Halkidiki, Greece)

B14, B13, B12, B11, B10: Raymond SONG (NSW) - 1903
Born: 11/1/1994
State Titles:
NSW Under-12 Champion 2002
NSW Under-16 Champion 2004
National Titles: None
International Titles: None
Represented Australia:
World Under-10 Championship 2003 (Halkidiki, Greece)
Represented New Zealand:
World Under-10 Championship 2002 (Heraklion, Greece)

jeffrei
23-06-2004, 12:23 PM
GIRLS

G18: Catherine LIP (NSW) - 1950
Born: 9/12/1986
State Titles:
NSW Girls Under-12 Champion 1995
NSW Girls Under-12 Champion 1996
NSW Girls Under-12 Champion 1997
NSW Girls Under-12 Champion 1998
NSW Under-12 Champion 1998
NSW Girls Champion 1999
NSW Girls Champion 2000
NSW Girls Champion 2001
NSW Girls Champion 2002
NSW Girls Champion 2003
National Titles:
Australian Girls Under-10 Champion 1996 (Sydney, NSW)
Australian Girls Under-12 Champion 1998 (Adelaide, SA)
Australian Girls Co-Champion 1999 (Hervey Bay, Qld)
Australian Girls Champion 2000 (Morwell, Vic)
International Titles:
Women's FIDE Master (2002)
Represented Australia:
World Girls Under-10 Championship 1996 (Menorca, Spain)
World Girls Under-12 Championship 1997 (Cannes, France)
World Girls Under-12 Championship 1998 (Oropesa del Mar, Spain)
World Girls Under-14 Championship 1999 (Oropesa del Mar, Spain)
World Girls Under-14 Championship 2000 (Oropesa del Mar, Spain)
World Girls Under-20 Championship 2000 (Athens, Greece)
Asian Girls Under-16 Championship 2001 (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)
World Youth Olympiad 2002 (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)
World Girls Under-16 Championship 2002 (Heraklion, Greece)

G17, G16, G15, G14: Michelle LEE (Vic) - 1797
Born: 2/1/1990
State Titles:
Victorian Girls Under-12 Champion 1998
Victorian Girls Champion 1999
Victorian Girls Champion 2000
Victorian Girls Champion 2002
Victorian Girls Champion 2003
National Titles:
Australian Girls Under-10 Champion 1999 (Hervey Bay, Qld)
Australian Girls Under-12 Champion 2000 (Morwell, Vic)
Australian Girls Champion 2001 (Canberra, ACT)
International Titles: None
Represented Australia:
World Girls Under-10 Championship 1999 (Oropesa del Mar, Spain)
World Girls Under-10 Championship 2000 (Oropesa del Mar, Spain)
World Youth Olympiad 2002 (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)
World Girls Under-12 Championship 2002 (Heraklion, Greece)
World Girls Under-14 Championship 2003 (Halkidiki, Greece)

G13, G12: Angela SONG (NSW) - 1673
Born: 29/5/1992
State Titles: None
National Titles:
Australian Girls Under-10 Champion 2002 (Sydney, NSW)
Australian Girls Champion 2003 (Adelaide, SA)
International Titles: None
Represented Australia:
World Girls Under-10 Championship 2002 (Heraklion, Greece)
World Girls Under-12 Championship 2003 (Halkidiki, Greece)

G11: Luthien RUSSELL (Qld) - 1108
Born: 30/11/1993
State Titles:
Queensland Girls Under-12 Champion 2003
Queensland Girls Under-12 Champion 2004
National Titles: None
International Titles: None
Represented Australia: Never.

G10: Shuyu WANG (Vic) - 857
Born: 28/4/1994
State Titles:
Victorian Girls Under-10 Champion 2003
Victorian Girls Under-10 Champion 2004
National Titles: None
International Titles: None
Represented Australia: Never.

jeffrei
23-06-2004, 12:24 PM
I’ve compiled the list above but I’m sure there must be lots of mistakes/omissions, especially from the period 1998-2001 when I was more-or-less out of chess. If any of the players above violently object to having their names and details posted on the board, I’ll take them off, but I should stress that this is nothing more than fact-finding for my personal records, and in any case most of this information is easily available on the internet anyway.

Could anyone who finds errors/omissions in the records above please post a reply here? Especially with regard to state titles I’m missing a whole lot of information.

I’d also like to have a photo of all the players listed above. I don’t have one for Luthien Russell and the one I’ve got for Michael Wei is a bit blurry, so if anyone has photos for them please message me and we'll arrange for it to be emailed.

Alan Shore
23-06-2004, 12:32 PM
I’d also like to have a photo of all the players listed above. I don’t have one for Luthien Russell and the one I’ve got for Michael Wei is a bit blurry, so if anyone has photos for them please message me and we'll arrange for it to be emailed.

Um, don't have a photo but I know what she looks like :p Most likely she'll be playing in the Gold Coast Open this weekend, so guess you could always ask Graeme Gardiner for a photo? Or maybe he has one already.

Garvinator
23-06-2004, 12:52 PM
Um, don't have a photo but I know what she looks like :p Most likely she'll be playing in the Gold Coast Open this weekend, so guess you could always ask Graeme Gardiner for a photo? Or maybe he has one already.
arent you playing at gc?

Alan Shore
23-06-2004, 01:05 PM
arent you playing at gc?

Yeah, but what am I going to do, bring a camera, and say to Luthien, 'hey, some guy in Victoria wants a photo of you' :rolleyes:

Garvinator
23-06-2004, 01:12 PM
Yeah, but what am I going to do, bring a camera, and say to Luthien, 'hey, some guy in Victoria wants a photo of you' :rolleyes:
you could :lol:

Alan Shore
23-06-2004, 01:13 PM
you could :lol:

Or you could! You're still playing right?

Garvinator
23-06-2004, 02:06 PM
Or you could! You're still playing right?
i could, but i dont have a camera, so that rules me out. I dont know if i am playing, I have to work out finances and all that stuff.

jeffrei
28-06-2004, 06:33 PM
Could anyone who finds errors/omissions in the records above please post a reply here? Especially with regard to state titles I’m missing a whole lot of information. I’d also like to have a photo of all the players listed above. I don’t have one for Luthien Russell and the one I’ve got for Michael Wei is a bit blurry, so if anyone has photos for them please message me and we'll arrange for it to be emailed.

Thanks to everyone who helped me out with this, whether through PM or email or (in Michael Wei's case) through an MSN conversation. The only real disappointment is that I still don't have much on Catherine Lip and Ronald Yu. Is there anyone active in the NSW chess scene who might be able to tell me some of other the state/national titles those guys have won? Especially in Catherine's case I find it hard to believe she hasn't won about ten other things that aren't listed here.

Also, I'm missing a number of birthdates.

Bill Gletsos
28-06-2004, 06:52 PM
Ronald Yu
DOB: 26/01/1988
CiTY of Sydney Champion 2003 - Note this was an adult event not a junior.

Catherine Lip
DOB: 9/12/1986

Michelle Lee
DOB: 2/01/1990

Luthien Russell
DOB: 30/11/1993

jeffrei
28-06-2004, 06:53 PM
Thanks Bill. :)

jenni
28-06-2004, 06:53 PM
I think Zong-Yuan Zhao won the Under 12 in Perth in 1997 as well.

jeffrei
28-06-2004, 06:55 PM
:) Thanks Jenni!

jeffrei
19-07-2004, 03:13 PM
Thanks to everyone who helped me out with this.

I think my records are basically complete, except for two things:

a) Some state titles might be missing for Zong-Yuan (I asked him and he thought my stuff on him was basically correct but that there might be a couple of NSW u-XX titles missing...he just couldn't remember which ones!).

b) Some state titles are definitely missing for Catherine Lip! I'm sure I can remember her winning a whole bunch of NSW things...does anyone who's been kicking around NSW junior chess for a while remember? There are quite a lot of links on http://www.nswjcl.org.au/Results/nswjclresults.htm which were very useful for more recent years but the older links are dead.

/jef

PS: Jenni, I didn't add Zong-Yuan for U12 in Perth because I can remember Michael Chow showed me a funny game he played against Yuan there, and Michael was definitely in the U14s that year. So I guess Yuan didn't win the U12s in 1997...unless maybe they had U12s combined with the older kids?

jenni
19-07-2004, 03:55 PM
PS: Jenni, I didn't add Zong-Yuan for U12 in Perth because I can remember Michael Chow showed me a funny game he played against Yuan there, and Michael was definitely in the U14s that year. So I guess Yuan didn't win the U12s in 1997...unless maybe they had U12s combined with the older kids?

Yes it was definitely combined. There were 3 under 10's playing in the Open and a handful of under 12's. The girls was even worse - 1 under 10. For whatever reason local WA under 12's were pretty scarce. WA got permission to combine the tournaments and so there were only 2 divisions - Open and Girls, and all titles were awarded from these divisions.

Kuan lost his last game against Gareth Charles I think (and ended up in tears) and Sylvester Urban drew and Yuan won, which gave Yuan the title on a count back from Sylvester, with Kuan-Kuan a 1/2 point behind.

(Aren't I a fount of useless knowledge :) )

Trizza
19-07-2004, 05:56 PM
Yep Jenni is right, Yuan won the U/12 in Perth '97. The WA players proved to be good hosts for him :), he scored 1.5/2 against Michael Wilkins and myself from inferior positions (though I can remember how adamant he was that our endgame was drawn!).

Kuan left a rook en prise when the exchange ahead against Gareth Charles and Sylvester Urban was winning his final game, so it was quite a dramatic finish.

Gareth also benfited from an idiotic bishop sacrifice by me the previous day and got a high placing (can't recall where exactly, my memory isn't that good) :)

arosar
20-07-2004, 05:01 PM
Hey, Mr Saw...are you needing this list because you are writing a book similar to Torre's "The Next Wave..." Or maybe it is "Australian Chess Into the 21st Century"?

AR

jeffrei
20-07-2004, 06:29 PM
Thanks Jenni and Trizza, the amendment has been made!

Nah, I'm not writing a book (although I have read, and enjoyed, Australian Chess Into The Eighties). Basically it's just for personal records, and because I think it might be good for my students to see who the Australian #1 is in their respective age divisions, which then may give them another thing to aim for.

jeffrei
21-07-2004, 05:24 PM
I've amended Ronald Yu's record to include 'NSW Junior Champion 2004'.

I note that Raymond Song finished outright 3rd in the U18 division of that event, behind the winner Yu and Kevin O'Chee who it seems is 17 years old. Could someone please tell me if I am right in assuming that that makes Raymond the NSW Under-16 Champion for 2004?