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Rincewind
14-09-2007, 07:09 PM
I think we need a thread for all card games EXCEPT poker!!! (It has enough attention at the moment).

Here are some of my favourites...

Bridge (when you have four)
500 (best in four)
Cribbage (2 player is best but works in 3)
Euchre (cut-throat 3 player is good)
Hearts (best in 4)
Spades (best ni 4 but 2 player works too)
Whist (particularly 2-player)
Canasta (4 is best from memory)
Rummy (ok in nearly any number up to 6)
Gin Rummy (2 only)
Uno (which is a rip-off of Crazy Eights and good in variable number but I think >3 is best)

Solitaires...

Klondike is the original and a favourite. I also played a games called Devil's Despair which had the advantage that you can usually play on a briefcase while sitting on a train.

Rincewind
14-09-2007, 07:20 PM
Oh and I play too much Spider Solitaire. :(

Kevin Bonham
14-09-2007, 07:56 PM
I have a real problem with card games which causes me to play cards relatively rarely - I can't shuffle. Just physically don't get it, despite numerous attempts. This is a serious social disability; all my attempts to learn how to shuffle have failed, so it's rather embarrassing having to always ask someone else to do it.

Used to play 500 a lot at high school and undergrad uni, and a little bit a few years ago. Also used to play some other card games at undergrad uni - Seargent Major (also known by other names that are not printable on this forum), Hearts, Up and Down The River and this isn't very good but I did invent it in my sleep. (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=4487)

Aaron Guthrie
14-09-2007, 09:45 PM
Oh and I play too much Spider Solitaire. :(I sometimes have this problem.

Two more-
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eclectic
14-09-2007, 09:52 PM
canfield

Rincewind
14-09-2007, 10:09 PM
I have a real problem with card games which causes me to play cards relatively rarely - I can't shuffle. Just physically don't get it, despite numerous attempts. This is a serious social disability; all my attempts to learn how to shuffle have failed, so it's rather embarrassing having to always ask someone else to do it.

Commute 2 hours each way to and from work for 5 years and you get to develop an efficient and compact shuffling style. ;) Have some good teachers also helps.

Aaron Guthrie
14-09-2007, 10:14 PM
Commute 2 hours each way to and from work for 5 years and you get to develop an efficient and compact shuffling style. ;) Have some good teachers also helps.So it really is like that (now dead) SBS show on the sydney trains?

Rincewind
15-09-2007, 02:29 AM
So it really is like that (now dead) SBS show on the sydney trains?

I can't comment as I was only vaguely aware of the show's existence and never watched it. From memory it didn't run that long before the show was derailed.

But there was a large group of us travelling between Wollongong and Sydney every day and we could almost always arrange at least 4 players for cards for the trip which was around 2 hours each way.

Rincewind
15-09-2007, 02:30 AM
canfield

I was wondering if a cc poster was going to bring up that game.

ElevatorEscapee
15-09-2007, 03:58 PM
Rince... of all people! How can you not have thought to suggest the famous Discworld card game: "Cripple Mr Onion"!? ;)

WhiteElephant
15-09-2007, 10:54 PM
I play the russian game Durak.

Rincewind
16-09-2007, 11:15 AM
I play the russian game Durak.

This reminds me I have also played the Italian games of Scopa and Tresette. Both allow the application of skill and memory but Tresette is the best in this regard. There are a few other games that I know of such as Bestia and Briscola but I haven't played them very often at all. All are played with the usual Italian deck of 40 cards which come in many regional varieties. I've usually (but not always) played with a deck of carte napoletane.

http://www.modiano.it/en/catalogo/prodotto.php?db_000=346

You can download a Tresette computer game from here...

http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?500000011965

Intuition
17-09-2007, 11:52 AM
[QUOTE=Rincewind]This reminds me I have also played the Italian games of Scopa and Tresette. Both allow the application of skill and memory but Tresette is the best in this regard. There are a few other games that I know of such as Bestia and Briscola but I haven't played them very often at all. All are played with the usual Italian deck of 40 cards which come in many regional varieties. I've usually (but not always) played with a deck of carte napoletane.

Ive tried these games too.All top games but briscola would have to be the best...scopa is too basic for my liking (although there a a few nice tricks to know)...tresette reminds me of playing spades...briscola is definately the best, particulary when playing with a partner (so there is 4 players instead of 2) and if there are a few drinks around and some money on the line it makes it even better...also it gives poor players a chance to win once in a while when they get some good cards...so everyones happy. :)

littlesprout85
17-09-2007, 06:11 PM
Right Onz !!!!

Here is a game meh family plays alot during the holidays here stateside.
It is called Blitz (31). Its a card game played with a full deck of cards(without the jokers). Kinda like 21 as in that you collect the same suites in whih the goal is to reach 31 total. Aces always = 11 points
Face cards = 10 points
all others are face value.

First off this card game is for as many ppl as you like but more than 1 person. Each person puts up 3 coins or bills on the table so that everyone has the same amounts in the beginning. Then each person annies up a coin before the dealer deals out three cards face down to each player. Then the dealer places the rest of the deck in the middle of the table and flips the first card over. Then the next player can either pick that card up or take a card from the top of the deck.Then the player discards a card outta his hand. The whole goal is to get to 31 in the same suite(hearts-spades - etc.)

If and when a person gets to 31 then he will lay the cards face up on the table and announce BLITZ !!!! Then each players put a coin or bill into the pot execpt the winner who has the blitz. :owned:

Each player has three plays & then they get one more called "grace". Once a player looses 4 times then they are out of the game.

Also a player can Knock on the table if they think that they can beat just one other player at the table. When a player knocks on their turn they cannot take a draw, then all the other players get one more draw to complete the round. If a Player gets a Blitz during the period in which another player has Knocked- the player who knocked has to pay double(two bills or coins) and the other players pay one coin or bill - execpt the player who got the Blitz. :clap:

The round go until either a player knocks or a player gets a blitz. When a player knocks the round goes around one more time then end with the knocking player showing their cards - and the others show their cards. Only the lowest player pays after a knock. If the player who knocks cant beat any other players then they pay double :|

Finally the last thing to remember about this card game called Blitz - The one still standing at the end wins da pot :D
-Sprout :)

Andrea
18-09-2007, 12:50 AM
And I'm still playing old plain spider solitaire (http://www.bvssolitaire.com/spider-solitaire.htm) :(

Phil Bourke
18-09-2007, 12:51 AM
I think we need a thread for all card games EXCEPT poker!!! (It has enough attention at the moment).

Euchre (cut-throat 3 player is good)

Six handed, two teams of 3 is absolutely the best euchre game, all but two cards in play.
Four players, at $5 per corner is a good pub game.
Have tried the rest, but euchre is the best :)

bergil
18-09-2007, 10:25 AM
Six handed, two teams of 3 is absolutely the best euchre game, all but two cards in play.
Four players, at $5 per corner is a good pub game.
Have tried the rest, but euchre is the best :)I agree 6 handed euchre is the best way to play the game.

Axiom
19-09-2007, 07:32 PM
I always wondered why i felt so uncomfortable(sometimes clinically nauseous) whenever i encountered anything to do with card games.
I recall a few years ago, having to catch a train (as my car was in repair) and having a group of card players plonk themsleves down opposite me.
I experienced extremely high levels of anxiety,and could barely look.
Because the train was very crowded, i was trapped, it was absolute hell.
Anyway to cut an ugly story short, i ended up vomiting over the foursome.
I dont want to give an account of what happened immediately after this, as it is irrelevant to the story at hand. I had simply assumed that i had suffered a bout of train travel sickness.

However after reading Rincewind's latest card games thread (yes,i should have known better), i was triggered into a another flashback.......of which i retell here....


The coach of the Siberian Chess Tigers was, as we all know, the great Bresislan (Zev) Gorkiananov or Gorky as he was affectionately known to us.
He had an almost pathological hatred of cards (or "devil tickets" as he called them).

One of his many visions was to eradicate cards from the face of the earth, but he acted locally by waging war on the card players of Krasnoyarsk.
During each summer holidays, he co-opted the *** into fighting this war.
We used to intercept the containers carrying imported card packs at the wharf, and raided card playing halls, culminating in a huge bonfire of burning devil tickets ! Gorky used to warm himself by the fire with a self statisfied look on his face, saying "This is our offering to the great god Caissa !,burn devil burn !"
I was young at the time, and the true significance of our struggle was not immediately apparant to me. All i knew was that it was very important to Gorky.
Card playing in Krasno was reduced to secretive meetings in peoples homes, but they were still terrified of an *** raid.
The best the card playing community could do was taunt us by deviously importing packs of cards with insulting illustrations on the back of each card.
Some of these illustrations i recall were , a siberian tiger being put through a ham slicer morphing into playing cards, a siberian tiger cut up as snack food on a table surrounded by a group of card players, and a card player doing something to a siberian tiger that i cant mention here.
They used to scatter these cards at chess tournament playing halls so as to insult the ***.
But Gorky had a plan ! He would recruit the Krasno street kids to collect these cards and in return supply a chess board and pieces and a free chess tutor.(who were paid by the *** Fund:-a fund set up by the estate of Gorky's uncle ,a very wealthy man who left his millions to promote chess. and with respect to him ,i cannot tell you his name, he always wanted to remain anonymous)
It was something like, for every 52 cards, 5 hours of tuition. For the street kids this was an incredible opportunity, and a win win situation for Gorky!
A few masters were created in this way, and the demonic card players were kept at bay.

This flashback has at least shed light on my cardophobia.


**********UPDATE ! ********

I am sad to report that a son of one of the card playing cartel has become a serial killer. Aleksandr Pichushkin. I recall the name and some of the history with help from my russian correspondant. It appears (and this is a chesschat exclusive !) that Aleksandr's behaviour arose from the persecution his father suffered at the hands of the *** , and he wanted to exact revenge against chess, by propagating the crazy chess killer mythos. It is a disgrace that the media falls for it everytime, and certainly underscores the desperate measures these people go to ,to undermine Caissa.
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Rincewind
19-09-2007, 09:52 PM
Does anyone have any factual card playing stories?

Aaron Guthrie
19-09-2007, 09:57 PM
Does anyone have any factual card playing stories?I have never played trivial pursuit.

Intuition
20-09-2007, 04:45 PM
Does anyone have any factual card playing stories?

Basically by exluding poker the thread can't really take off with good factual stories...i could write a whole book on both casino and backyard play...i guess its not a good omen when you get busted for gambling at school in year 8.. lol.. some blokes used to play 500 but not a big fan..money, beer and mates always makes the game more fun but u have to be careful not to play cards with serious ppl who will come back with thier 22's if they loose.. :D

Trent Parker
21-09-2007, 02:54 PM
My late Grandmother loved card games. Every time I went over to my grandmother's place I would be involved with a game of Chess with my late step-grandfather or a game of cards with both my grandmother and step grandfather. We played lots of games Euchre, rummy, switch (a form of uno using the normal 52 card deck) and we also played two handed solitaire (or patience as i used to know it as). Other card games we played that did not use the normal 52 card deck included skip-bo, and a card game called drovers delight or something like that

I used to play alot of solitaire games: normal solitaire, 5 card solitaire, spider solitaire, Tut's Tomb.

In high school i learnt to play 500 and multi player solitaire. And a game called A!@hole.

I also play Hearts.

I have not played many card games other than poker for a very long time.

Desmond
22-09-2007, 10:49 PM
I occasionally play blackjack with a group of mates after a few too many beers and/or whiskeys.

As many people may already know, blackjack is not the most strategically involved game around. If Texas Hold 'em "takes a minute to learn but a lifetime to master", then blackjack takes a minute to learn and two minutes to master. :lol:

However, put the complexity of the game aside, enter a charismatic and well-sauced dealer, and we have a hell of a blast!

With a grandiose wave of the hand across the table (and perhaps just a hint of a dodgy asian accent), "No more bets!" the dealer cries.

"Split those tens, Sir?"

"Double-down? Double-down? Double-down?" (each with increasing speed and incoherence)

"Standing on 16, Ma'am? Brave!".

and a few hands later...

"Standing on 16, Sir? Yer mad c@#$!"

eclectic
22-09-2007, 10:54 PM
i thought the main piece of strategy with blackjack especially at a casino was to not be known as a really good chess player and thus also have it inferred that you are might be an adept card counter

;)

Basil
23-09-2007, 12:18 AM
I occasionally play blackjack with a group of mates after a few too many beers and/or whiskeys.

As many people may already know, blackjack is not the most strategically involved game around. If Texas Hold 'em "takes a minute to learn but a lifetime to master", then blackjack takes a minute to learn and two minutes to master. :lol:

However, put the complexity of the game aside, enter a charismatic and well-sauced dealer, and we have a hell of a blast!

With a grandiose wave of the hand across the table (and perhaps just a hint of a dodgy asian accent), "No more bets!" the dealer cries.

"Split those tens, Sir?"

"Double-down? Double-down? Double-down?" (each with increasing speed and incoherence)

"Standing on 16, Ma'am? Brave!".

and a few hands later...

"Standing on 16, Sir? Yer mad c@#$!"

Now that's funny! And accurate! 40 HCDs!

Sunshine
24-09-2007, 04:00 PM
As many people may already know, blackjack is not the most strategically involved game around. If Texas Hold 'em "takes a minute to learn but a lifetime to master", then blackjack takes a minute to learn and two minutes to master. :lol:


I think mastering blackjack has a lot more to it then you understand. It uses different skills compared to poker - but I'd rate the two off them on par for skill and enjoyment.

When I was living in Hobart I worked with a guy named Andrew Scott - who played blackjack at the casino just about every night.

He relocated to Sydney a few years later and set up a blackjack school - I attended one of first courses he ran. It was a bit like a Uni course - around 3 hours a week for 14 weeks. Andrew has been a blackjack professional for quite a few years

As a result I'd expect to get better returns than you about 80% of the time (from session lasting greater than 60 minutes).

Southpaw Jim
26-09-2007, 03:20 PM
As someone with 10 years experience as a former croupier and casino inspector, dealing and supervising blackjack, I'd have to say that card counting for a living in casinos is hard work for the return gained. Not recommended, unless you've got deep pockets (to recover from a bad night/week/month) and granite-hard dedication.

BTW Sunshine, I was at Wrest Point, but I don't remember Andrew - I think he was before my time? (1995-2005)

Sunshine
27-09-2007, 08:34 PM
As someone with 10 years experience as a former croupier and casino inspector, dealing and supervising blackjack, I'd have to say that card counting for a living in casinos is hard work for the return gained. Not recommended, unless you've got deep pockets (to recover from a bad night/week/month) and granite-hard dedication.

BTW Sunshine, I was at Wrest Point, but I don't remember Andrew - I think he was before my time? (1995-2005)

I was in Hobart in 1990 & 1991. I think Andrew move to Sydney a couple of years after that - so he probably had left before 1995.

I agree with your comments about blackjack - I was purely noting the skill levels involved and saying that a good blackjack player will significantly outperform an average one.

I don't know much about how the pub poker is played but the average player performs better there because they are up against bad players.

Carl Gorka
27-09-2007, 08:38 PM
Strip Pass the Pigs

Kevin Bonham
24-06-2009, 08:17 PM
Somehow I forgot to mention the old Maths Olympiad and Uni classic Bartok on this thread. Not so much a game as a sendup of the concept given that "games" usually end with someone throwing all the cards up in the air in disgust at which point there is no winner.

I happened to notice earlier today that there was now a Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartok_(game)) on Bartok. Although inadequately sourced it seems reliable and suggests there has been no real drift in the rules since I last played it.

By complete coincidence I thought about the game in question today before noticing that the composer of the same name was mentioned on this forum for the first time a couple of days ago. The impetus for me thinking about it was the latest MatsW thread, in which I thought that some of his rules were so exotic and obscure that there should be a chess variant like Bartok - say, whenever you take a piece you make up a new rule.

Anyway I have not been involved with this nonsense for at least 15 years but used to find it a lot of fun.

One of my favourite Bartok tricks was introducing rules that allowed me to bait for questions by being obscure. For example I once introduced a rule along the lines of "anyone playing a 2 on another 2 must name a science-fiction writer who has not already been named in this hand or any previous hand". So after people had been through the obvious Clarke, Asimov, Wells, Verne etc I named Howard Waldrop. "Who?" "QUESTION!!!!"

Saragossa
24-06-2009, 09:55 PM
Rickity Cate (I think this a variation of Hearts),
I play 500 with my Dad vs My uncle and cousin (We dominate :P),
I juggle cards pretty well (if that counts), Billionaire, Oh hell and I have this huge book of solitaire games but ones that are hardcore thinking games.