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MARON
29-01-2007, 02:16 PM
Anyone know any good Budapest gambit Books/articles ? Anyway, is the gambit Sound? some Strong players have told me that if white knows what he is doing, he will just get a pawn in the opening.

Davidflude
29-01-2007, 03:36 PM
Anyone know any good Budapest gambit Books/articles ? Anyway, is the gambit Sound? some Strong players have told me that if white knows what he is doing, he will just get a pawn in the opening.


THere is good analysis at Chesspublishing.com

sleepless
29-01-2007, 07:17 PM
I played it off and on last year and seemed to do well when my opponent declined the pawn.

SOS vol 2 has an interesting line for white with 5.Nh3 that is worth investigating. 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 Ng4 4.e3 Nxe5 5.Nh3!? Bc5 6.Nf4 o-o 7.Be2 d6 8.o-o Nbc6 9.Nc3 a5 10.b3 Bf5 11.Bb2 Re8

cheers!

IM_bob
29-01-2007, 09:19 PM
I play 2.e4 against the budapest and transpose (eventually) to the scotch! Danish if i'm feeling confident.

JGB
29-01-2007, 09:34 PM
From what I’ve seen I think it's sound enough up to and maybe at IM level.

It has been studied pretty thoroughly these day though. I have a nice book on it by Otto Borik. There have been some dazzling games played in it over the years and Black has as many options as White. It's an aggressive opening with a lot of little hidden tactics and traps. It can't be bad for your chess playing skills including playing with all of the pieces.

BTW I got lucky and won a four move game in the Budapest at the MCC on the weekend, so it can't be all that bad an opening, if only for comic relief.

White: name respectfully withheld
Black: James Bonning

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.d5 Bc5 4.Bg5 Bxf2+ and Black resigned here.

yeah he could have kept playing but it would not have been much fun.

Bereaved
30-01-2007, 12:32 AM
Hi Everyone,

I don't play the Budapest except as a surprise, here is a game I played a few years ago.

There is a book on the Budapest By Bogdan Lalic, which is quite good, and there is also a CD - Rom from Chessbase available.

Event:
Site: ?
Date: 2003
Round:
White: Nother, A
Black: Macavity
Result: 0-1
ECO: A52
WhiteElo: 1867
BlackElo: 1912
PlyCount: 92

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4 4. Bf4 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bb4+ 6. Nbd2 Qe7 7. a3 Ngxe5
8. Nxe5 Nxe5 9. e3 Bxd2+ 10. Qxd2 d6 11. Be2 O-O 12. O-O b6 13. b4 Bb7 14. Rac1
c5 15. Rfd1 Rad8 16. Qb2 Ng6 17. Bg3 Nh4 18. Bf1 Nf5 19. bxc5 dxc5 20. Qe5 Qxe5
21. Bxe5 f6 22. Bc3 Bc6 23. Rxd8 Rxd8 24. a4 Bxa4 25. Ra1 Bb3 26. Ra3 Bc2 27.
Rxa7 Rd1 28. Ra1 Rxa1 29. Bxa1 Nd6 30. g4 Bb3 31. g5 Kf7 32. Bd3 h6 33. g6+ Ke6
34. f4 Bxc4 35. f5+ Ke7 36. Bc2 Bd5 37. Kf2 b5 38. Kg3 Be4 39. Bxe4 Nxe4+ 40.
Kf4 Nd6 41. e4 Nc4 42. e5 Nxe5 43. Ke4 b4 44. Kd5 b3 45. Kxc5 b2 46. Bxb2 Nd3+
(46... Nd3+ 47. Kc4 Nxb2+ $19) 0-1

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

MichaelBaron
30-01-2007, 08:00 PM
I play 2.e4 against the budapest and transpose (eventually) to the scotch! Danish if i'm feeling confident.

Budapesht has been played by Korchnoi against a 2600+ gm this year...game ended in a draw

Capablanca-Fan
22-05-2007, 12:06 PM
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.d5 Bc5 4.Bg5 Ne4 was also strong.

Igor_Goldenberg
22-05-2007, 01:24 PM
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.d5 Bc5 4.Bg5 Ne4 was also strong.
5.Be3 Be3 6.fe3 Qh4+ 7.g3 Ng3 8.Nf3 Qh5 9.Rg1
Black is definetely better, but it does not seem much better then 4...Bf2.
On the other hand it is probably not relevant, both lines give sufficient advantage.

On a more serious note - Budapest gambit does not appear very trustworthy to me. 5...Bb4+ is best met by 6.Nc3, and white should eventually hold and capitalise on an extra pawn.

If first 5...Bc5 (to provoke 6.e3), then 6...Bb4 7.Nd2 and compare to Macavity game white has an extra very important tempo (7...Qe7 8.a3 B:d2+ 9.Qd2 Ne5 10.Ne5 Qe5 11.c5! with a very pleasant position)

Capablanca-Fan
22-05-2007, 03:41 PM
5.Be3 Be3 6.fe3 Qh4+ 7.g3 Ng3 8.Nf3 Qh5 9.Rg1
Black is definetely better, but it does not seem much better then 4...Bf2.
On the other hand it is probably not relevant, both lines give sufficient advantage.

8...Qh6 would win another pawn and or the exchange. But on reflection, it seems good to win a pawn and deprive White of castling.


On a more serious note - Budapest gambit does not appear very trustworthy to me. 5...Bb4+ is best met by 6.Nc3, and white should eventually hold and capitalise on an extra pawn.

These days, White seems to shy away from
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 Ng4 4.Bf4 Nc6 5.Nf3 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 Qe7 7.Qd5 Bxc3+ 8.bxc3 f6

But I'm interested that an IM (or someone who should be ;)) is happy to be White here.

Igor_Goldenberg
22-05-2007, 05:31 PM
These days, White seems to shy away from
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 Ng4 4.Bf4 Nc6 5.Nf3 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 Qe7 7.Qd5 Bxc3+ 8.bxc3 f6
But I'm interested that an IM (or someone who should be ;)) is happy to be White here.

Actually, depending on the mood, opponent, etc. sometimes I play 2.Nf3 to avoid 2...e5 or Benko gambit. It does not change my not very high opinion of them though!