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Garvinator
28-01-2007, 11:54 PM
Game 35: Sunshine v Howard Duggan

Sunshine
29-01-2007, 01:57 AM
e4

All the best Howard.

I'm on different timezone for the next week (vietnam and Singapore) - so the start might be a bit slow.

Basil
29-01-2007, 02:01 AM
GL to you too. Asia? You might run into my brother :doh: Anyway, here's some Scandinavian flavour to keep it global.

1.e4 d5

Sunshine
30-01-2007, 12:31 AM
Nf3

I think I might have met your brother - does he have dark hair ?

Basil
30-01-2007, 12:43 AM
*LOL* I confess to a momentary twitch in my hand as I went for the mouse to reply. He's actually in Taiwan. Now what's this rubbish you're playing? Did you miss my move or Nf3 this a thing?

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4

Sunshine
30-01-2007, 01:02 AM
I learned a lot about life and people from Doris Stokes.

Ng5

It gets harder every day to find something that's not in the book.

Basil
30-01-2007, 01:12 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6

1. OK, I'll maintain the scorecard ;)
2. There's a book!?
3. Who in God's name is Doris Stokes?

Sunshine
30-01-2007, 01:22 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4. Nc6

1. Message received.
2. It is probably an MP3 by now - but it use to be a book
3. Doris Stokes was a British TV clairvoyant in the 1970s - she would amaze people by making broad statement and then narrowing in depending on their response.

Basil
30-01-2007, 01:30 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5
I've taken the liberty of resorting to cheating by re-writing your moves. However I am an honest cheat and feel compelled to tell you I changed your Nc6 to Nc3. Besides I thought he might get a hernia so early in the game.

Sunshine
30-01-2007, 01:48 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 Bc4

I'm still adjusting to this new decimal notation.

Basil
30-01-2007, 02:11 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6

Apologies for dropping off the air last night. Storm. Tripped circuit! Kids! Dogs!

Sunshine
30-01-2007, 04:18 PM
f3

Basil
30-01-2007, 05:49 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4

Sunshine
30-01-2007, 07:43 PM
Qe2

Basil
30-01-2007, 08:32 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6

Sunshine
31-01-2007, 12:27 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4

Basil
31-01-2007, 01:30 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5

Sunshine
31-01-2007, 01:43 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9. c3

Basil
31-01-2007, 02:11 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6

Sunshine
31-01-2007, 02:16 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10. Bxd5

Basil
31-01-2007, 02:34 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6
ouch! i'm going to have trouble sleeping tonight! :) wake up with a headache.

Sunshine
31-01-2007, 08:30 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11. Ng3

There was something in the rules about your rooks and queen bishops - but I don't think it applied to to the king knight. Might be worth checking at this point though.

Basil
31-01-2007, 10:49 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5
Yup, still sore.

Sunshine
31-01-2007, 11:42 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12. Bxc6+

Basil
31-01-2007, 11:53 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6

Sunshine
01-02-2007, 12:11 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13. Nxf5

Basil
01-02-2007, 12:21 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2

Sunshine
01-02-2007, 12:28 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 Rxh2

Basil
01-02-2007, 12:34 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+

Sunshine
01-02-2007, 12:36 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15. Qf1

Basil
01-02-2007, 12:37 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2

Sunshine
01-02-2007, 12:45 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16. Nd4

Basil
01-02-2007, 01:01 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+

Sunshine
01-02-2007, 01:17 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17. Kd1

Basil
01-02-2007, 01:54 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6

Sunshine
01-02-2007, 02:00 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18. Qa6

Basil
01-02-2007, 02:14 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8

Sunshine
01-02-2007, 01:28 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6

Basil
02-02-2007, 12:16 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8

Sunshine
03-02-2007, 08:50 AM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20. g4

Basil
03-02-2007, 07:01 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4

Sunshine
03-02-2007, 07:27 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21. Qc5+

Basil
03-02-2007, 07:44 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8[/pgn]

Sunshine
03-02-2007, 08:12 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22. Qxa7

Basil
03-02-2007, 08:36 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22.Qxa7 Qf2

Sunshine
03-02-2007, 08:43 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22.Qxa7 Qf2 23. Kc2

Basil
03-02-2007, 08:58 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22.Qxa7 Qf2 23. Kc2 Rc8

Sunshine
03-02-2007, 09:19 PM
1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22.Qxa7 Qf2 23. Kc2 Rc8 24. Nc6

Basil
03-02-2007, 09:30 PM
1-0 GG Well played.

Was your opening a thing or were you just messin' with a patzer!? I'd really like to do that again one day 'cause I reckon it's as 'orrible as Axiom's possum! :whistle:

Sunshine
03-02-2007, 09:49 PM
Thanks for the game Howard - we are now even.

I've got a lot of offbeat openings - but nothing that is really my thing.

I've always be good at spotting and avoiding prepared lines - but never committed enough to prepare anything in detail myself.

You'll get chances in most games no matter what the opening is.
In this type of game the critical moves come early - this time it was your move 8.

Basil
03-02-2007, 09:52 PM
Thanks for the game Howard - we are now even.

I've got a lot of offbeat openings - but nothing that is really my thing.

I've always be good at spotting and avoiding prepared lines - but never committed enough to prepare anything in detail myself.

You'll get chances in most games no matter what the opening is.
In this type of game the critical moves come early - this time it was your move 8.

By 'thing', I meant is it a known opening (albeit off-beat) or were you just making it up as you went along?

Yes, move was bad and you were good enough to punish - so full credit.

Sunshine
03-02-2007, 10:06 PM
I'm pretty sure it is an accepted opening - so yes it is "thing".

Basil
04-02-2007, 11:05 PM
I've put the opening through HIARCS (analysis from black's perspective on 20 secs a move).

I says white is not good at all.
After move 4, black is +1.2 or so although it preferred 4... Qd4 two moves later
After move 7, ... e3 would have had black +1.6

I confess to stopping the analysis shortly thereafter as I didn't want to see how far the score dropped - but I have a fair idea :uhoh:

1. e4 d5 2. Nf3 dxe4 3. Ng5 Nf6 { 0.00 3... Bf5 } 4. Nc3 Bf5 { +1.22 4... Qd4 }
5. Bc4 e6 6. f3 Qd4 7. Qe2 Nc6 { +1.67 7... e3 } 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 { +1.30 8... Ne5
} 9. c3 Qb6

Sunshine
05-02-2007, 03:43 PM
I'm not sure I follow all of what you are saying - but I agree 7 .... e3 was a strong move which forces Ne4.

Are you saying that your position is still better after 8 .... Nd5 , because I find that hard to believe.

If you are also saying that I was a pawn down in a sharp position - well that was the idea.

I am assuming HIARCS suppose to be the final word on the subject - but what strength is it on 20 secs a move ?