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Kevin Bonham
20-01-2007, 01:44 AM
http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.com/Gib2007/Home.html

Rogers, Smerdon, Ly playing in the Masters. Field includes Adams, Milov, Georgiev, Sokolov, Nakamura. Rogers seeded 25th. 10 rounds.


Players in the Masters will be expected to use the Monroi device rather than a traditional scoresheet. The rate of play, with one minute per move added on, is particularly effective with this equipment. Few people will have any problem. There will be staff in the playing hall available to deal with any glitches.


Draws by mutual agreement in under 40 moves are not allowed in the Masters without the agreement of the arbiter. No pre-arranged / tacit agreements to draw are allowed (of any length, by repitition or otherwise). Genuine draws by repetition or stalemate are acceptable.

Basil
20-01-2007, 02:11 AM
http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.com/Gib2007/Home.html

Rogers, Smerdon, Ly playing in the Masters. Field includes Adams, Milov, Georgiev, Sokolov, Nakamura. Rogers seeded 25th. 10 rounds.

What a stunning field! Or is that I just don't get out much. Looks like a cracker of a tournament.

antichrist
20-01-2007, 04:51 AM
If Mouthan is successful will his name be adjusted to Rock of Gibraltar?

Basil
20-01-2007, 04:54 AM
Pebble. He's 2" nothing. Lovely boy. Nice father. But no rock :)

antichrist
20-01-2007, 04:59 AM
Pebble. He's 2" nothing. Lovely boy. Nice father. But no rock :)

But if he stumbles he could end up being called Rocky Road - seeing he is so sweet, I have met him.

By the way his surname could mean river. If my memory is correct.

MashUp
20-01-2007, 09:35 AM
What a stunning field! Or is that I just don't get out much. Looks like a cracker of a tournament.

70,000 total prize money is alot of dosh for a chess tournament!! :eek:

Desmond
20-01-2007, 09:40 AM
The Monroi Device (http://www.monroi.com/products.html)

four four two
20-01-2007, 10:31 AM
70,000 total prize money is alot of dosh for a chess tournament!! :eek:

Its one of the biggest annual opens in the world. :)

pax
20-01-2007, 11:34 AM
A great field. Perhaps this is the Moulthun's chance for his final IM norm?

Denis_Jessop
21-01-2007, 11:48 AM
A great field. Perhaps this is the Moulthun's chance for his final IM norm?

Equally, and perhaps at least as likely, can David get another GM norm? I see that Moulthun has only a few FMs and one IM (Bob Wade) rated below him while David is right up with all the titled players. I believe the draw is made using Stewart Reuben's Accelerated Pairings System.

DJ

pax
24-01-2007, 12:44 PM
Nakamura and Akopian also lost!

Girl power: Ketevan Arakhamia beat Nakamura, and Irina Krush beat Akopian.

By the way, that's a pretty hopeless website - half the links are broken and the results are already a day late.

Garvinator
25-01-2007, 06:55 PM
Round 2:


17 Rogers, Ian 2522 [1] 1 - 0 Sengupta, Deep 2416 [1]
12 Al-Modiahki, Mohamed 2556 [1] 1 - 0 Smerdon, David 2460 [1]
62 Ly, Moulthun 2307 [0] 1 - 0 Pettersen, Joar 2032 [½]

Round 3:


2 Sokolov, Ivan 2652 [2] Rogers, Ian 2522 [2]
35 Smerdon, David 2460 [1] Wade, Robert 2173 [1]
58 Obers, Frits 2071 [1] Ly, Moulthun 2307 [1]

Garvinator
25-01-2007, 11:59 PM
Short game from Ian Rogers in the second round.

Event: Gibtelecom Masters
Site: Gibraltar Gibraltar
Date: 2007.01.24
Round: 2
White: Rogers, Ian
Black: Sengupta, Deep
Result: 1-0
ECO: C18
WhiteElo: 2522
BlackElo: 2416
PlyCount: 241
EventDate: 2007.01.23
Source: MonRoi

1. d4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qc7 7. Nf3 b6 8. Bb5+
Bd7 9. Bd3 c4 10. Be2 Ba4 11. O-O Nc6 12. Ng5 h6 13. Nh3 O-O-O 14. Nf4 Qe7 15.
Bg4 Kb7 16. Re1 Qe8 17. Bh5 Qf8 18. Bg4 Nge7 19. Ra2 Qg8 20. Re3 Qh7 21. h4
Rde8 22. Rg3 Nd8 23. Qe2 Kb8 24. h5 Rhg8 25. Rh3 Rgf8 26. Bf3 Rg8 27. Bg4 Rgf8
28. Kf1 Nf5 29. Bf3 g5 30. hxg6 fxg6 31. Kg1 Rf7 32. Rb2 Bc6 33. g4 Ne7 34. Ng2
Ng8 35. Ne1 Qg7 36. Bg2 g5 37. Bf1 Ref8 38. Be3 Ne7 39. f3 Rh8 40. Qh2 Ng6 41.
Ra2 Nf4 42. Bxf4 Rxf4 43. Be2 Ba4 44. Ng2 Rf7 45. Kf2 Nc6 46. Ke3 Ne7 47. Kd2
Ng6 48. Ra1 Qf8 49. Kc1 a5 50. Kb2 b5 51. Qg3 Rb7 52. Qe1 Rhh7 53. Kc1 Rb6 54.
Qd2 Ra7 55. Bd1 Kc8 56. Ra2 Kb7 57. Ra1 Kb8 58. Ra2 Rbb7 59. Ra1 Ra6 60. Ra2
Ka7 61. Ra1 Ka8 62. Ra2 Kb8 63. Ra1 Rab6 64. Rh1 Kc8 65. Rf1 Rf7 66. Rh1 Kd8
67. Rf1 Rbb7 68. Rh1 Ke8 69. Rf1 Rb8 70. Rh1 Rb6 71. Rf1 Rbb7 72. Rh1 Qg7 73.
Rf1 Qf8 74. Rh1 Ke7 75. Rh5 Qg7 76. Rh1 Rb8 77. Rh3 Kf8 78. Rh1 Kg8 79. Rh3 Qf8
80. Rh1 Kg7 81. Rf1 Rb6 82. Rf2 Rbb7 83. Qe3 Ra7 84. Kd2 b4 85. axb4 axb4 86.
cxb4 Qxb4+ 87. Qc3 Qb6 88. Rf1 Bc6 89. Be2 Rxa1 90. Rxa1 Ra7 91. Rxa7+ Qxa7 92.
Qb2 Ba4 93. Qa1 Qa5+ 94. Qc3 Qb6 95. Qa1 Qb4+ 96. Qc3 Qb1 97. Bd1 Qb6 98. Qa1
Qb5 99. Qa3 Kf7 100. Kc1 Qc6 101. f4 c3 102. f5 Ne7 103. f6 Ng6 104. Be2 Bb5
105. Bxb5 Qxb5 106. Qxc3 Qb6 107. Kd2 Nf8 108. Ne1 Nd7 109. Nf3 Qb7 110. Qd3
Nf8 111. Qb3 Qa7 112. Qb4 Ng6 113. Ne1 Nh4 114. Qc5 Qb7 115. Kc3 h5 116. gxh5
g4 117. h6 Kg6 118. Qf8 Nf5 119. Qg8+ Kxh6 120. f7 Qc7+ 121. Kb2 1-0

MichaelBaron
26-01-2007, 12:47 AM
Do not forget about Malcolm Tredinnik!

He is playing Nakamura in round 3

Garvinator
26-01-2007, 11:58 AM
2 Sokolov, Ivan 2652 [2] 1 - 0 Rogers, Ian 2522 [2]
35 Smerdon, David 2460 [1] 1 - 0 Wade, Robert 2173 [1]
58 Obers, Frits 2071 [1] 0 - 1 Ly, Moulthun 2307 [1]
28 Nakamura, Hikaru 2651 [1] 1 - 0 Tredinnick, Malcolm 2209 [1]

Round 4:

19 Rogers, Ian 2522 [2] Citak, Selim 2310 [2]
25 Ly, Moulthun 2307 [2] Abergel, Thal 2475 [2]
27 Mohota, Nisha 2261 [2] Smerdon, David 2460 [2]
59 Tredinnick, Malcolm 2209 [1] Hickman, John 2052 [1]

Garvinator
27-01-2007, 11:41 AM
Round 4:

19 Rogers, Ian 2522 [2] 0.5-0.5 Citak, Selim 2310 [2]
25 Ly, Moulthun 2307 [2] 1-0 Abergel, Thal 2475 [2]
27 Mohota, Nisha 2261 [2] 0-1 Smerdon, David 2460 [2]
59 Tredinnick, Malcolm 2209 [1] 1-0 Hickman, John 2052 [1]


Round 5:

7 Smerdon, David 2460 (3) Georgiev, Kiril 2661 (3)
16 Sulskis, Sarunas 2525 (3) Ly, Moulthun 2307 (3)
22 Aaberg, Anton 2400 (2½) Rogers, Ian 2522 (2½)
36 Abergel, Thal 2475 (2) Tredinnick, Malcolm 2209 (2)

pax
27-01-2007, 01:37 PM
Looks like Moulthun's awesome form is set to continue.

Garvinator
27-01-2007, 01:39 PM
Looks like Moulthun's awesome form is set to continue.
Of course this is an ambitious post, but I hope he gets his third IM norm and will get to 2400 in this rating period, or at least the next.

Basil
27-01-2007, 02:26 PM
Go our boys! :clap:

pax
27-01-2007, 08:23 PM
Of course this is an ambitious post, but I hope he gets his third IM norm and will get to 2400 in this rating period, or at least the next.

I reckon he is odds on to achieve those goals by the end of this year, at least. And that would make him (by my estimate) the youngest Australian to achieve the IM title via norms.

Garvinator
27-01-2007, 08:30 PM
I reckon he is odds on to achieve those goals by the end of this year, at least. And that would make him (by my estimate) the youngest Australian to achieve the IM title via norms.
odds on hey :hmm:

pax
27-01-2007, 08:57 PM
odds on hey :hmm:
Why, you wanna bet?

Garvinator
27-01-2007, 09:49 PM
Why, you wanna bet?
Thinking about it, but dont like the idea of having to bet against another Aussie (especially a Qlder ;) ) not getting the IM title this year. :eek:

Basil
28-01-2007, 05:32 AM
Smerdon, David 2460 .5-.5 Georgiev, Kiril 2661 [3rd seed & =42nd world FIDE] :clap:

pax
28-01-2007, 06:18 AM
Smerdon, David 2460 .5-.5 Georgiev, Kiril 2661 [3rd seed & =42nd world FIDE] :clap:
David is making a habit of drawing with super GMs.

pax
28-01-2007, 07:44 AM
Round 5:

7 Smerdon, David 2460 (3) 1/2-1/2 Georgiev, Kiril 2661 (3)
16 Sulskis, Sarunas 2525 (3) 1-0 Ly, Moulthun 2307 (3)
22 Aaberg, Anton 2400 (2½) 0-1 Rogers, Ian 2522 (2½)
36 Abergel, Thal 2475 (2) 1-0 Tredinnick, Malcolm 2209 (2)

WhiteElephant
28-01-2007, 07:59 AM
Wow, Smerdon draws with the great Kiril Georgiev but now gets Akopian (2700) in Round 6!

Afitz
28-01-2007, 09:51 AM
Yeah that's a bit mean....as a reward for drawing with a 2661 you now get a 2700!....Go Smurfo though!

Kevin Bonham
28-01-2007, 01:44 PM
Won't do his average rating of opponents any harm whatever the result!

Smerdon - Georgiev. Yes, yet another top-50 grandmaster fails to defeat David Smerdon.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Nxd4 Bc5 5.Nxc6 Qf6 6.Qf3 Qxf3 7.gxf3 bxc6 8.Be3 Bxe3 9.fxe3 Ne7 10.c4 d6 11.Nc3 0-0 12.f4 f5 13.Bg2 fxe4 14.Bxe4 Be6 15.b3 d5 16.cxd5 cxd5 17.Bf3 c6 18.Ne2 Nf5 19.Rc1 Rac8 20.Kf2 c5 21.Rhd1 Rfd8 22.Rc3 d4 23.exd4 Nxd4 24.Nxd4 cxd4 25.Rxc8 Rxc8 26.Be4 Rd8 27.Rc1 Rf8 28.Kg3 g6 29.Rc6 Bf5 30.Bxf5 Rxf5 31.Rd6 Ra5 32.a4 Rc5 33.Rxd4 Rc3+ 34.Kg4 Rxb3 35.Rd7 a6 36.Rd6 a5 37.Ra6 Rb2 38.Kg5 Kf7 39.Ra7+ Ke6 40.Ra6+ Kf7 41.h3 Rg2+ 42.Kh4 h6 43.Rxa5 Kf6 44.Ra8 g5+ 45.Kh5 gxf4 46.a5 f3 47.a6 Kf7 48.a7 Ra2 49.Rb8 f2 50.Rb1 Rxa7 51.Rf1 Ra2 52.Kg4 Kg6 53.Kg3 h5 54.Rxf2 h4+ 55.Kf3 Rxf2+ and here the viewer shows 56.Ke4 but somehow I doubt that move was played, at least not before the draw was agreed! 1/2-1/2

Garvinator
28-01-2007, 03:37 PM
Why is Akopian paired so low in the 3 point score group? Shouldnt he be ranked number 1 in the 3 score group?

Kevin Bonham
28-01-2007, 03:53 PM
Why is Akopian paired so low in the 3 point score group? Shouldnt he be ranked number 1 in the 3 score group?

Given that Smerdon also appears below his ranking in the second half of the 3.5 group I am suspecting they are both actually paired at or near the top of the group but are placed on table 17 for a logistic reason. I would guess they have swapped places with the Ketevan Arakhamia - Zhu Chen game, perhaps because it has been selected for live viewing.

Garvinator
28-01-2007, 05:07 PM
Given that Smerdon also appears below his ranking in the second half of the 3.5 group I am suspecting they are both actually paired at or near the top of the group but are placed on table 17 for a logistic reason. I would guess they have swapped places with the Ketevan Arakhamia - Zhu Chen game, perhaps because it has been selected for live viewing.
Looking further, KB analysis doesnt seem right either.

The top score group has three players, so there is a downfloater to the score group above Akopian/Smerdon (4). This means for the Akopian/Smerdon score group that someone from the 4 point score group floats down to their score group.

The question is- who is supposed to float up from the 3.5 score group (Akopian/Smerdon) to play the 4 point downfloater (Sulskis, Sarunas 2525)?

Normally it would be the highest rated player in the 3.5 score group, which is Akopian.

Sulskis is due black, Akopian white and Akopian hasnt upfloated in the last two rounds. So I am still at a loss why Akopian isnt the upfloat.

I am asking these questions mainly for my own understanding.

Bill Gletsos
28-01-2007, 05:18 PM
It is clear looking at the first couple of rounds that the pairings are accelerated.

Without knowing the exact method of acceleration or when acceleration ends it is difficult to draw any conclusions about how the draw is performed.

Kevin Bonham
28-01-2007, 06:42 PM
Garvin is quite correct. It isn't just juggling or Akopian would be upfloated.

I have no idea what is going on.

pax
28-01-2007, 06:57 PM
Garvin is quite correct. It isn't just juggling or Akopian would be upfloated.

I have no idea what is going on.

Whatever it is, it certainly isn't FIDE Dutch. Someone should ask Ian Rogers - I'm sure he has taken an interest, being the one (third lowest rated in the top half of the 3.5 group) upfloated. He may well be somewhat peeved if it is, in fact, an irregular pairing.

Kevin Bonham
28-01-2007, 07:02 PM
The entry form only says that the event is an Open Swiss and provides no detail on pairings.

Ian_Rogers
28-01-2007, 07:14 PM
Acceleration stopped after three rounds.
Median floats here.
Regarding board order Akopian-Smerdon was swapped with Zhu Chen v Arakhamia so that the top women's game would be broadcast.
Ian

Basil
29-01-2007, 11:51 PM
From the homepage of The Gibraltar Masters:

Short Draws Draws by mutual agreement in under 40 moves are not allowed in the Masters without the agreement of the arbiter. No pre-arranged / tacit agreements to draw are allowed (of any length, by repitition or otherwise). Genuine draws by repetition or stalemate are acceptable.

pax
30-01-2007, 08:10 AM
Moulthun beat Nana Dzagnidze, and is now the leading Australian on 4/6! Rogers and Smerdon both lost, and remain on 3.5.

Moulthun's performance rating is now around 2525 (http://paxmans.net/performance_calc.php?score=4&rating1=2492&rating2=2150&rating3=2150&rating4=2475&rating5=2525&rating6=2463&submitted=Y), so he needs around 1.5/3 against about 2370 average, or 1/3 against 2475 average to secure his final IM norm. So a win today would probably do the job. Go Moulthun!

pax
30-01-2007, 10:29 AM
Cool, we have the battle of the young guns in round 7 (David Howell is 16):



18 Ly, Moulthun 2307 (4) Howell, David 2501 (4)
25 Klinova, Masha 2330 (3½) Rogers, Ian 2522 (3½)
31 Smerdon, David 2460 (3½) Sachdev, Tania 2380 (3½)
41 Ippolito, Dean 2397 (3) Tredinnick, Malcolm 2209 (3)

Oepty
31-01-2007, 04:35 PM
Moulthun beat Nana Dzagnidze, and is now the leading Australian on 4/6! Rogers and Smerdon both lost, and remain on 3.5.

Moulthun's performance rating is now around 2525 (http://paxmans.net/performance_calc.php?score=4&rating1=2492&rating2=2150&rating3=2150&rating4=2475&rating5=2525&rating6=2463&submitted=Y), so he needs around 1.5/3 against about 2370 average, or 1/3 against 2475 average to secure his final IM norm. So a win today would probably do the job. Go Moulthun!

Well Ly lost to David Howell and now plays Kateryna Lahno (2463) so I think Ly is still in the hunt for the norm. A win against Lahno might secure it if he gets a good draw in the last round.
Scott

pax
31-01-2007, 04:50 PM
Well Ly lost to David Howell and now plays Kateryna Lahno (2463) so I think Ly is still in the hunt for the norm. A win against Lahno might secure it if he gets a good draw in the last round.
Scott

Yes, if he beats Lahno and then gets drawn against someone around 2470 or higher in the last round, he will secure the norm. If he draws with Lahno, then probably a win will be required to secure the norm.

Garvinator
31-01-2007, 05:19 PM
Does Smurf have any chance of a GM norm?

Kevin Bonham
31-01-2007, 07:37 PM
Rogers, Ian 2522 - Ris, Robert 2403
Lahno, Kateryna 2456 - Ly, Moulthun 2307
Adnani, Moklis 2265 - Smerdon, David 2460
Tredinnick, Malcolm 2209 - Savory, Richard 2119

Tough opponent for Moulthun although he had a great win against Dzagnidze who was of similar strength (and age - always relevant when considering FIDE ratings).


Does Smurf have any chance of a GM norm?

By my calculations he needs to win tonight then beat an opponent rated about 3450 in the final round. ;)

Kevin Bonham
01-02-2007, 08:07 AM
27 Revesz, Zoltan......... 2245 (4) ...... Rogers, Ian............. 2522 (4)
30 Smerdon, David......... 2460 (4) ...... Bellin, Robert.......... 2381 (4)
31 Ly, Moulthun........... 2307 (4) ...... Vijayalakshmi, Subbarama 2459 (4)
68 Strand, Haakon......... 2015 3 ...... Tredinnick, Malcolm..... 2209 3

By my calculations, a win for Moulthun is his final IM norm, a draw is insufficient.
However someone may wish to check the former as it is close.

Desmond
01-02-2007, 08:10 AM
27 Revesz, Zoltan......... 2245 (4) ...... Rogers, Ian............. 2522 (4)
30 Smerdon, David......... 2460 (4) ...... Bellin, Robert.......... 2381 (4)
31 Ly, Moulthun........... 2307 (4) ...... Vijayalakshmi, Subbarama 2459 (4)
68 Strand, Haakon......... 2015 3 ...... Tredinnick, Malcolm..... 2209 3Have't looked at all the parings, but it strikes me as a little odd that of those 6 people on 4.5, the top seed gets to play the bottom seed. :hmm:

pax
01-02-2007, 08:20 AM
By my calculations, a win for Moulthun is his final IM norm, a draw is insufficient.
However someone may wish to check the former as it is close.

I'm not sure about this: The average rating of his opponents according to the website, and including the 2150 uplift is 2407.88.

The required scores for an IM norm according to http://fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=B0101 are:
2371-2407: 5.5/9 (win required)
2408-2450: 5/9 (draw required)

On the same page, there is also this:

1.47b Rounding of the Rating Average is made to the nearest whole number. In this instance the fraction 0.5 is rounded upward.

So the upshot of that is that, by the skin of his teeth, Moulthun needs only a draw for the norm.

Kevin Bonham
01-02-2007, 08:25 AM
Looking at the full pairing of the 4.5 scoregroup, of those in the bottom half and playing white, Revesz is actually next below Ly in the order. But it turns out that Revesz played Vijayalakshmi in round 1, so Revesz and Ly have swapped places.

If not for that Moulthun would have to play Ian in the last round for his norm!

Kevin Bonham
01-02-2007, 08:29 AM
2408-2450: 5/9 (draw required)

I believe you are correct. I was looking at outdated tables which had the range as 2426-2450.

Kerry Stead
01-02-2007, 10:11 AM
Go Moulthun!!

Any idea how many rating points he'd gain from this tourney?
Don't think he'll be too far off 2400 at this rate.

pax
01-02-2007, 11:13 AM
Any idea how many rating points he'd gain from this tourney?
Don't think he'll be too far off 2400 at this rate.

A fair way to go yet. He will gain between 15 and 30 points (roughly) depending on the result of his final game.

I hope he plans to play in the Doeberl and SIO.

Kerry Stead
01-02-2007, 11:25 AM
A fair way to go yet. He will gain between 15 and 30 points (roughly) depending on the result of his final game.

I hope he plans to play in the Doeberl and SIO.

It was a relative term ... he was in the 2100s not too long ago. Now around 2320 ... the goal is definitely in sight.

Hope he keeps the form up.

Do FIDE still rate matches (I know the ACF don't anymore)? Perhaps Sandler might want to give him a game or 10 ... :uhoh:

pax
01-02-2007, 11:37 AM
It was a relative term ... he was in the 2100s not too long ago. Now around 2320 ... the goal is definitely in sight.

It was only a bit more than a year ago that he was under 2150, and there was a massive barney about whether players under 2150 (state champions, junior champions, 'improving' juniors) should be allowed into the Australian Championship. This time next year, he will surely be in the running to win it.


Hope he keeps the form up.

Do FIDE still rate matches (I know the ACF don't anymore)? Perhaps Sandler might want to give him a game or 10 ... :uhoh:

Classic post.

:clap: :lol: :lol: :clap:

Garvinator
01-02-2007, 02:51 PM
This time next year, he will surely be in the running to win it.
Combined with the odds on IM claim, you could get a bet out of me for a combined ticket of Moulthun being an IM by the end of this year and him winning the 2008 Australian Championship.

pax
01-02-2007, 04:17 PM
Combined with the odds on IM claim, you could get a bet out of me for a combined ticket of Moulthun being an IM by the end of this year and him winning the 2008 Australian Championship.

I didn't say he would win it - just that he would probably be in the running to win it. You'd have to give me pretty good odds on him actually winning it. On the other hand IM plus top six is probably even money.

Rhubarb
01-02-2007, 04:42 PM
Tough opponent for Moulthun although he had a great win against Dzagnidze who was of similar strength (and age - always relevant when considering FIDE ratings).Both players are experienced internationals with hundreds of games in the system so they're not going to be underrated regardless of their age and the system.


I'm not sure about this: The average rating of his opponents according to the website, and including the 2150 uplift is 2407.88.As Pete Parr was first to point out, the uplift for the IM norm is 2100, not 2150. I get an average of 2397 over the 9 games, meaning Moulthun definitely needs to win tonight to get the norm.



Do FIDE still rate matches (I know the ACF don't anymore)?Like the ACF, FIDE rates legitimate title and playoff matches, but not 'friendly' matches. Both reserve the right to veto any match at any time.

pax
01-02-2007, 04:49 PM
As Pete Parr was first to point out, the uplift for the IM norm is 2100, not 2150. I get an average of 2397 over the 9 games, meaning Moulthun definitely needs to win tonight to get the norm.

Dang it, you're absolutely right.

eclectic
01-02-2007, 08:44 PM
The last round starts at 12.30pm (GMT + 1)
When is that?
In 45 minutes or 1 hour 45 minutes?

Update: Applies only to the top 7 boards so of no concern if following an Australian.

pax
01-02-2007, 09:07 PM
The last round starts at 12.30pm (GMT + 1)
When is that?
In 45 minutes or 1 hour 45 minutes?

Update: Applies only to the top 7 boards so of no concern if following an Australian.

20 min from now.

Yes, it's odd that they are only playing the top 7 boards early. I suppose that's for prizegiving etc.

Kevin Bonham
01-02-2007, 09:10 PM
Both players are experienced internationals with hundreds of games in the system so they're not going to be underrated regardless of their age and the system.

They could be so if they were still improving rapidly, no matter how many games they had played.

(However it turns out they are not. Having actually checked instead of generalising, I note that both Lahno and Dzagnidze are now relatively stable.)

Kevin Bonham
01-02-2007, 10:12 PM
An amusing game from round 6. Kaidanov's king gets some unusual exercise but gets chased all the way back home.

[Event "Gibtelecom Masters"]
[Site "Gibraltar"]
[Date "2007.01.29"]
[Round "6.3"]
[White "Kaidanov, Gregory [2595] (4)"]
[Black "Milov, Vadim [2665] (4)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2595"]
[BlackElo "2665"]
[EventDate "2007.??.??"]
[PlyCount "134"]
[Source "MonRoi"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 a6 5. c5 Bf5 6. Bf4 e6 7. e3 Nbd7 8. Be2 Be7
9. Nd2 Bg6 10. Rc1 Qc8 11. a3 O-O 12. g4 Ne8 13. h4 f6 14. h5 Bf7 15. Nf3 Nc7
16. Na4 Qd8 17. Bd3 e5 18. dxe5 Ne6 19. exf6 Nxf6 20. Ne5 Nxf4 21. exf4 Qc7 22.
g5 Ne4 23. g6 Be8 24. Qg4 Bf6 25. h6 Bxg6 26. Nxg6 hxg6 27. f3 Qa5+ 28. b4 Qxa4
29. Qe6+ Rf7 30. fxe4 Qxa3 31. Rd1 Qb2 32. e5 Qg2 33. h7+ Kh8 34. Qxf7 Qxh1+ 35.
Kd2 Qh2+ 36. Kc3 Qa2 37. Qxg6 Rd8 38. Kd4 Qf2+ 39. Kc3 Qa2 40. Bc2 d4+ 41. Kd3
Qa3+ 42. Ke4 Qe3+ 43. Kf5 Qh3+ 44. Ke4 Qe3+ 45. Kf5 Bh4 46. Ke6 Qxf4 47. Qf5
Qh6+ 48. Qg6 Qf4 49. Qf5 Qh6+ 50. Qg6 Qe3 51. Rg1 Bf6 52. Be4 Qb3+ 53. Kf5 Qh3+
54. Qg4 Qxh7+ 55. Kf4 Qh6+ 56. Kf3 Bxe5 57. Ke2 d3+ 58. Kd1 Kg8 59. Rh1 Qf6 60.
Bf5 Bc7 61. Be6+ Kf8 62. Qf5 Qxf5 63. Bxf5 Ke7 64. Rh3 d2 65. Rf3 Rd4 66. Bc8
Bf4 67. Bxb7 Rxb4 0-1

WhiteElephant
01-02-2007, 10:26 PM
Is the monroi site supposed to be showing live games for the lower boards? Does anyone know how to access the live games...I've seemingly clicked everywhere on the site but can't get games for Round 9 (current round). Thanks.

pax
01-02-2007, 10:48 PM
Is the monroi site supposed to be showing live games for the lower boards? Does anyone know how to access the live games...I've seemingly clicked everywhere on the site but can't get games for Round 9 (current round). Thanks.

The lower boards don't start until 1am. Only the top 7 boards ate playing on the live boards, and they seem to have a conflicted file as it flips between today's games and yesterday's.

Garvinator
02-02-2007, 12:46 AM
If I have read the home page correctly of the main site, Moulthun Ly needs a full point from his last game to get the IM Norm.


GM Norm Requirements IM Norm Requirements WIM Norm Requirements
Achieved Achieved Achieved

Carlos Salgado Allaria Margarida Coimbra

Half Point Half Point Half Point

Mohammed Al Sayed, Robin Swinkels Katerina Nemcova
Irina Krush Dronavalli Harika Dronavalli Harika
Thomas Rendle
Deep Sengupta

Full Point Full Point

Carlos Salgado Allaria Tania Sachdev
Moulton Ly
Nisha Mohota

Kevin Bonham
02-02-2007, 03:26 AM
Akopian smashes his co-leader Kuzubov in 23 moves with the mighty Rossolimo, to win the tournament outright. As far as I can tell black is already suffering after 17...Qe7, indeed the sac was not White's only strong move (18.Nd5 is good too). Perhaps black is in trouble before that too.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 g6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.d3 Bg7 6.h3 b6 7.Nc3 Nh6 8.Be3 f6 9.Qd2 Nf7 10.0-0-0 e5 11.Nh2 Be6 12.f4 exf4 13.Bxf4 Qd7 14.Nf3 0-0-0 15.d4 cxd4 16.Nxd4 Kb7 17.Qe2 Qe7 18.Nxc6 Kxc6 19.Nd5 Qe8 20.Qa6 Bf8 21.Qxa7 Bc5 22.b4 Qd7 23.Qa6 1-0

frogmogdog
02-02-2007, 10:42 AM
looks like moulthun lost flinging forth pieces in a hyper-tactical kings gambit (still a great performance by moulthun in this tournament!). rogers also lost, smerdon and tredinnick won.

pax
02-02-2007, 01:49 PM
[Event "Gibtelecom Masters"]
[Site "Gibraltar"]
[Date "2007.01.31"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Ly, Moulthun"]
[Black "Vijayalakshmi, Subbaraman"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteELO "2307"]
[WhiteTitle ""]
[BlackELO "2459"]
[BlackTitle ""]
[Source "MonRoi"]

1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4 Ne7 4.Nc3 c6 5.Qf3 Ng6 6.d4 d6 7.Nge2 Qh4 8.g3 Qg4 9.Qf2 b5 10.Bb3 b4 11.Nd5 fxg3 12.Nxg3 Qd7 13.Ba4 Qb7 14.Bg5 Be6 15.O-O-O Nd7 16.Rhe1 cxd5 17.Nf5 dxe4 18.d5 Bxd5 19.Rxe4 Bxe4 20.Rxd6 Bxf5 21.Qe3 Be7 22.Bc6 Qc7 23.Rxg6 O-O 0-1

Flinging pieces around is right. He certainly found the right opening to play if you want to be sure of avoiding a draw! It looked to be out of theory by about move 6 :)

pax
02-02-2007, 02:01 PM
Actually, after 18...Bxd5 19.Rxd5! would have left Moulthun with a solid advantage. The rook cannot be taken due to the mate threats around the blakc king. Unfortunately 19.Rxe4 loses straight away.

Kevin Bonham
02-02-2007, 05:57 PM
Yes, there were many points of interest but it feels really spurious to analyse it after what could have been a brilliancy was ruined with a blunder (a la Kramnik - Deep Fritz game 2).

But anyway:

6...d6 is new, and looks passive. 6...Bb4 has been played in two of the three previous games in chessbase, for a win and a loss. 6...Be7 was also played for a loss.

I suggested 10.Nxb5. This recovers the pawn without complications (since ...cxb5?? 11.Bd5 killing the rook +-). Exactly how good this would have been is not clear. I thought White was clearly better; macavity put it on Fritz 8 which reckoned White was much better (>+1). White could have recovered the pawn later, but not without getting pieces kicked around a great deal.

Moulthun seemed to be drifting then spent half an hour on 16.Rhe1 (tentative !!) White has major long term pressure for the piece on all sorts of lines. After looking at the position for a long time we felt that Moulthun was ahead. macavity anticipated this piece-sac idea.

Finally as pax notes, Moulthun only has to play 19.Rxd5 and he is better, but for some reason he made the wrong rook capture.

Good result for Moulthun despite missing the norm. Rogers had a poor tournament by his excellent standards, Smerdon was in the hunt until the Sachdev disaster, Tredinnick's 4/9 in that field is not bad.

AlexDavies
04-02-2007, 02:07 PM
Finally as pax notes, Moulthun only has to play 19.Rxd5 and he is better, but for some reason he made the wrong rook capture.

Well, I'll admit that it took me a few minutes to realise that the point of 19.Rxd5 is that 19...Qxd5 is met by 20.Bb3. (If there is something stronger, then that's just further proof that White's tactic is not easy, or at least that I'm weak!). I suppose that it isn't obvious to move the bishop backwards from the pinning a4-e8 diagonal, even though the weakness of f7 is known even by weak players (such as myself when I prevented Scholar's mate with something like 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Bc5 3.Qh5 g6? in an offhand game during the 1985 Victorian Country Championship).

Of course, now that I have seen 19.Rxd5! Qxd5 20.Bb3, it seems ridiculous that I could miss something so simple.

10.Nxb5 is much more obvious than 19.Rxd5. Presumably, White considered it, but saw some phantom variations that led him to reject it.

Cheers,
FM Alex Davies (FIDE 2187, Canadian 2305, ACF 2152??)

Kevin Bonham
04-02-2007, 06:32 PM
Well, I'll admit that it took me a few minutes to realise that the point of 19.Rxd5 is that 19...Qxd5 is met by 20.Bb3.

Yes, this is it. Black then has to take the bishop with the queen, and has a rook, a piece and three pawns for a queen - but the pawns are loose and the king is exposed, so White is doing fine.


(If there is something stronger, then that's just further proof that White's tactic is not easy, or at least that I'm weak!). I suppose that it isn't obvious to move the bishop backwards from the pinning a4-e8 diagonal, even though the weakness of f7 is known even by weak players (such as myself when I prevented Scholar's mate with something like 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Bc5 3.Qh5 g6? in an offhand game during the 1985 Victorian Country Championship).

Agreed, it's not at all obvious upfront. What puzzled me was that he seemed to play Rxe4 reasonably quickly, although I'm not sure of the exact time he used on that move. Possibly he just assumed he was lost by this stage, or maybe he missed something and thought Rxe4 worked.

Bereaved
07-02-2007, 01:32 AM
Hello everyone,

Thought this was a very convincing game from this event

Event: Gibraltar
Site: ?
Date: 2007.02.01
Round: 9
White: Sandipan, Chanda
Black: Krush, Irina
Result: 1-0
ECO: A20
WhiteElo: 2561
BlackElo: 2449
PlyCount: 59
SourceDate: 2007.01.03

1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. O-O Be7 7. d4 e4 8. Ne5
f5 9. Nxc6 bxc6 10. Qc2 Nb4 11. Qa4 Bd7 12. a3 c5 13. Qd1 Nc6 14. dxc5 Bxc5 15.
Bf4 g5 16. Bd2 Qe7 17. Nc3 Bd4 18. Rc1 O-O 19. Nb5 Bb6 20. Bxg5 Qxg5 21. Qxd7
Ne7 22. Nxc7 Rad8 23. Qe6+ Rf7 24. e3 Rd2 25. Nb5 Qf6 26. Qxf6 Rxf6 27. b4 Nc6
28. Rfd1 Ra2 29. Nc3 Rxa3 30. Nd5 1-0


Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Basil
07-02-2007, 01:42 AM
Thought this was a very convincing game from this event
Indeed. Black seemed always in the process of patching up the position almost from the get go. Was Black's play a known line against the English?