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Watto
19-10-2006, 09:48 AM
I don’t think anyone’s started a thread for this yet.
Four Australians have entered the strong Essent Open in the Netherlands running from 20 October to 28 October. The Australians are Ian Rogers (12th seed), David Smerdon (17th), Moulthun Ly and Manuel Weeks.
I was wondering about Ly's absence from the World Youth team… good to see him here.

Here’s the site.
http://www.essentchess.nl/index2006.htm

EDIT: I should have mentioned, the Open is not the premier tournament. There’s a 4 player tournament consisting of the strongest Dutch player, the junior world champion, the best woman and a world champion. This is the tenth year of the tournament and the strongest foursome they’ve had to date:
Veselin Topalov Bulgarije 2813 1
Shakhryar Mamedyarov Azerbeidzhan 2728 12
Judit Polgar Hongarije 2710 16
Ivan Sokolov Nederland 2670 39

Denis_Jessop
19-10-2006, 10:56 AM
I don’t think anyone’s started a thread for this yet.
Four Australians have entered the strong Essent Open in the Netherlands running from 20 October to 28 October. The Australians are Ian Rogers (12th seed), David Smerdon (17th), Moulthun Ly and Manuel Weeks.
I was wondering about Ly's absence from the World Youth team… good to see him here.

Here’s the site.
http://www.essentchess.nl/index2006.htm

EDIT: I should have mentioned, the Open is not the premier tournament. There’s a 4 player tournament consisting of the strongest Dutch player, the junior world champion, the best woman and a world champion. This is the tenth year of the tournament and the strongest foursome they’ve had to date:
Veselin Topalov Bulgarije 2813 1
Shakhryar Mamedyarov Azerbeidzhan 2728 12
Judit Polgar Hongarije 2710 16
Ivan Sokolov Nederland 2670 39

That's interesting. I'm not sure why Moulthun did not apply for selection for the World Youth Team. I know that several players did not apply or elected not to go when chosen for various reasons one of which was the venue. Anyway, playing in the Netherlands will give him good experience in the pleasurable company of some good Australian companions. Best of luck to all of them.

DJ

Watto
20-10-2006, 08:48 AM
Hoogeveen is 8 hours behind us. I've been wrong in my calculations before... :eek: but I think that means that the first round will start tonight at 10 pm Melbourne time (as they are due to start at 2 pm local time).

Incidentally, here's the link to the English version of the site (have just discovered it :)):
http://www.essentchess.nl/info_eng.htm

soupman_2
20-10-2006, 10:49 PM
some aussie participants in the open section at essent 2006: ian rogers, david smerdon, moulthun ly, manuel weeks

http://www.essentchess.nl/index2006.htm

Garvinator
20-10-2006, 11:03 PM
Essent is under way with the open division starting today.

Topalov, Polgar etc start in two days.

In the tfd, it looks like there are five games being displayed, but I cant scroll down to Game 5. Can anyone?

soupman_2
20-10-2006, 11:07 PM
Moulthun Ly's game against Vyacheslav Ikonnikov (2587 GM RUS M) is currently being broadcast (11 pm Eastern Aust time). I clicked on the "Live flash" link at the top of the page.

http://www.essentchess.nl/index2006.htm

eclectic
20-10-2006, 11:08 PM
What, if any, norms or titles are any of the Australians playing for.

Do they have to avoid playing each other or do pairing rules deal with this?

Garvinator
20-10-2006, 11:31 PM
Essent is under way with the open division starting today.

Topalov, Polgar etc start in two days.

In the tfd, it looks like there are five games being displayed, but I cant scroll down to Game 5. Can anyone?
ahh ok, you need to use ie. I was using firefox. How dare I use a superior browser :cool:

Aaron Guthrie
21-10-2006, 12:46 AM
So after 20...Be5 if 21.Qxa7 Bd6 22.Rxd6 Qxd6 23.Nxf6+ looks messy to me, at least in a practical sense.

The other try I see for white is 21.b4!? intending c5.

Now after 35.Ke2!? Bc3!? the clever idea alowed by Ke2 of Nxb6 was rejected by the GM, probably because after Rxd3, Kxd3, it looks like black might be able to infiltrate with Qb4, or Qa3

40...Qc2!, Now Ikonnikov looks to be in trouble, if 41. Rd6 Be1! so he probably has to give up the exchange, and in much worse conditions than if he had done so 20 moves ago

Garvinator
21-10-2006, 02:54 AM
Win for Moulthun in round one.

Event: Essent chess tournament
Site: ?
Date: ????.??.??
Round: 1
White: Ikonnikov, Vyacheslav
Black: Ly, Moulthun
Result: 0-1
ECO: E15
PlyCount: 92

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. Qa4 Bb7 6. Bg2 c5 7. dxc5 Bxc5 8. O-O
Nc6 9. Nc3 O-O 10. Bf4 Qe7 11. Rad1 Rfd8 12. Ne5 Na5 13. Bxb7 Nxb7 14. Bg5 h6
15. Bxf6 gxf6 16. Rxd7 Rxd7 17. Nxd7 Bd4 18. Qc6 Rd8 19. Qxb7 Bxc3 20. Rd1 Be5
21. Qc6 Bxb2 22. Rd3 Kg7 23. Kg2 Ba1 24. Kh3 Bb2 25. Kg2 Ba1 26. Kf1 Bb2 27. a4
Bc3 28. Kg2 Bb4 29. Qc7 Kh8 30. Qc6 Kg7 31. e3 Kh8 32. Rd4 Bc3 33. Rd3 Bb4 34.
Kf1 Kg7 35. Ke2 Bc3 36. Qc7 Be5 37. Qc6 Bc3 38. Rd1 Qa3 39. Kf3 Qb3 40. Rd3 Qc2
41. Qd6 Be1 42. Kg4 Qe2+ 43. Kh3 Qf1+ 44. Kh4 Qxf2 45. Kh3 Qf1+ 46. Kh4 Qg2 0-1

Watto
21-10-2006, 09:42 AM
Win for Moulthun in round one.


5 Ikonnikov, Vyacheslav 2587 GM RUS M
Win with black over the 5th seed... :clap:
Unlike the world youth, a really good website, games from the first round are available and pairings for round 2 as well.

pax
21-10-2006, 09:55 AM
What, if any, norms or titles are any of the Australians playing for.


The field looks strong enough that GM and IM norms will certainly be possible.



Do they have to avoid playing each other or do pairing rules deal with this?

It's a normal Swiss tournament. Why would they have to avoid playing each other?

Vlad
21-10-2006, 10:02 AM
He must have been tricked by Moulthun's innocent view.:)

Seriously, there is an article by IM Devyatkin on chess.pro where he talks about not pushing hard in drawn positions. He claims that Topalov lost because he did not learn that rule.:) Devyatkin himself added 50-100 points after he stopped doing that.

MichaelBaron
21-10-2006, 10:22 AM
Very impressive game. :clap:

eclectic
21-10-2006, 11:10 AM
The field looks strong enough that GM and IM norms will certainly be possible.



It's a normal Swiss tournament. Why would they have to avoid playing each other?

Sorry, I thought there might have been rules like people from the same country not playing each other to avoid collusion when a norm etc is on the line or else such games couldn't be counted in its calculation.

WhiteElephant
21-10-2006, 11:18 AM
5 Ikonnikov, Vyacheslav 2587 GM RUS M
Win with black over the 5th seed... :clap:
Unlike the world youth, a really good website, games from the first round are available and pairings for round 2 as well.

Brilliant! :clap:

pax
21-10-2006, 04:43 PM
Sorry, I thought there might have been rules like people from the same country not playing each other to avoid collusion when a norm etc is on the line or else such games couldn't be counted in its calculation.

No. Can you imagine what a nightmare such a rule would for any Norm tournament in Australia?

pax
21-10-2006, 04:45 PM
He must have been tricked by Moulthun's innocent view.:)

Seriously, there is an article by IM Devyatkin on chess.pro where he talks about not pushing hard in drawn positions. He claims that Topalov lost because he did not learn that rule.:) Devyatkin himself added 50-100 points after he stopped doing that.

It must be hard to resist pressing a bit hard when your opponent is a kid rated 400 points below you :)

All credit to Moulthun for picking the right time to go for the jugular despite having been on the back foot all game.

Kevin Bonham
21-10-2006, 07:17 PM
That game's hilarious. I don't think I've seen a player spend so much time shuffling pieces like that and win! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Garvinator
21-10-2006, 07:25 PM
Round 2:

10 Rogers, Ian (1) - Tondivar, Babak (1) 12- 34
15 Ly, Moulthun (1) - Willemze, Jeroen (1) 48- 22
20 Pruijssers, Roeland (0.5) - Smerdon, David (0.5) 42- 17
37 Weeks, Manuel (0) - Hendriks, Richard (0) 56- 77

The_Wise_Man
21-10-2006, 07:38 PM
gg

do you have something against our Australian captain? :whistle:

Wise

Garvinator
21-10-2006, 07:47 PM
gg

do you have something against our Australian captain? :whistle:

Wise
sorry, what :P ;)

soupman_2
21-10-2006, 11:49 PM
Moulthun catches the eye of the other participants:

http://www.doggers-schaak.nl/lang_nlhet-is-goed-in-hoogeveenlang_nllang_enits-good-in-hoogeveenlang_en/#more-565

Garvinator
22-10-2006, 01:02 AM
From essent:

pax
22-10-2006, 07:43 AM
10 Rogers, Ian (1) 0-1 Tondivar, Babak (1) 12- 34
15 Ly, Moulthun (1) 1/2-1/2 Willemze, Jeroen (1) 48- 22
20 Pruijssers, Roeland (0.5) 1/2-1/2 Smerdon, David (0.5) 42- 17
37 Weeks, Manuel (0) 1/2-1/2 Hendriks, Richard (0) 56- 77

Moulthun next plays IM Anatoly Donchenko (2395).

pax
23-10-2006, 08:57 AM
Round three was a good one for the Aussie contingent - 3.5/4, with Moulthun drawing with black against his IM opponent. I just did some quick sums, and I reckon that Moulthun's perfomance rating over his last 18 FIDE rated games (Doeberl Cup, World Open and Essent) is around the 2500 mark. If he keeps that up, the IM title will surely be just around the corner.


Round 4:

Moulthun plays GM Peng next (rated 2437).

9 Rogers, Ian ( 2 ) - Afek, Yochanan ( 2 ) 12- 32
12 Van Beek, Alexander ( 2 ) - Smerdon, David ( 2 ) 29- 17
14 Ly, Moulthun ( 2 ) - Peng, Zhaoqin ( 2 ) 48- 20
25 Weeks, Manuel ( 1.5) - Swinkels, Robin ( 1.5) 56- 30

pax
23-10-2006, 09:08 AM
Moulthun catches the eye of the other participants:

http://www.doggers-schaak.nl/lang_nlhet-is-goed-in-hoogeveenlang_nllang_enits-good-in-hoogeveenlang_en/#more-565

Wow, 5 hours of blitz with Loek Van Wely!

Vlad
24-10-2006, 11:06 AM
It is hard for me to understand why Molton played 26 Qc3...
Instead he could have played 26 Q:d6 R:d6 27 Rc1 Ne7 28 Rc7 Kf8 28 Ra7... It looks like a small advantage for white, it should be at least draw. It seems the ending is not Molton's strong part, which I suppose is consitent with the impression I have got after our game in the aus championship.

Denis_Jessop
24-10-2006, 08:06 PM
I see that Topalov lost to Judit Polgar in round 1 of the Crown Section. Perhaps he realised that a demand that he share the toilet with her would not be happily received by the organisers :lol: . He also lost in round 2.

DJ

arosar
24-10-2006, 08:29 PM
I see that Topalov lost to Judit Polgar in round 1 of the Crown Section. Perhaps he realised that a demand that he share the toilet with her would not be happily received by the organisers :lol: . He also lost in round 2.

DJ

No, he lost to Polgar in round 2. Mamedyarov was Topa's conqueror in round 1. So that's 0/2 for him.

AR

WhiteElephant
24-10-2006, 08:34 PM
Pretty tough ask playing this sort of opposition so soon after the WCC. You'd think he'd be mentally drained.

eclectic
24-10-2006, 08:40 PM
Pretty tough ask playing this sort of opposition so soon after the WCC. You'd think he'd be mentally drained.

He probably had this booked ages ago; moreover given the flak he and Danailov copped he most likely felt the need to "revalidate" himself as a player of championship calibre.

soupman_2
24-10-2006, 09:22 PM
The Doggers-Schaak blog of Peter Doggers who's playing at Essent 2006 and seems to have made friends with the Australians there.
http://www.doggers-schaak.nl/

Photo of Maunel Weeks
http://www.doggers-schaak.nl/lang_nlnieuwe-foto%e2%80%99s-en-analyse-lang_nl-lang_ennew-photos-and-analysis-lang_en/

David Smerdon's commentary on his topsy-turvy game with Roeland Pruijssers (Rd 2, 22 October 2006)
http://www.doggers-schaak.nl/partijen/hoogeveen/pruijssers_smerdon.htm

soupman_2
24-10-2006, 10:19 PM
In Rd 4, Moulthun missed a winning chance against Zhaoqin Peng (GM 2437). On move 26, Zhaoquin offered an exchange of Q's and, unfortunately, Moulton retreated his Q. If Moulton exchanges Q's (26.Qxd6 Rxd6), it seems to be an even exchange because he cannot go on to capture the opponents N without losing his R. But if he first moves that R, threatening mate (27. Re1), Peng is forced to protect his K (27... Kf8), and now Moulthun can safely capture the N losing only his pawn (28.dxc6 Rxc6). So close to another GM scalp!

Denis_Jessop
24-10-2006, 11:04 PM
No, he lost to Polgar in round 2. Mamedyarov was Topa's conqueror in round 1. So that's 0/2 for him.

AR

I must have had my computer upside down :wall:

DJ

soupman_2
24-10-2006, 11:45 PM
(I don't know why viewer doesn't recognise move 17. ... O-O)
Event: Hoogeveen open
Site: ?
Date: 2006.10.23
Round: 4
White: Ly, Moulthun
Black: Peng, Zhaoqin
Result: 0-1
ECO: C07
WhiteElo: 2274
BlackElo: 2437
PlyCount: 84
EventDate: 2006.10.23

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. exd5 Qxd5 5. Ngf3 cxd4 6. Bc4 Qd6 7. Qe2 Nf6 8.
Nb3 Nc6 9. Bg5 a6 10. O-O-O b5 11. Bd3 Be7 12. Kb1 e5 13. c3 Be6 14. cxd4 e4
15. Bxe4 Nxe4 16. Qxe4 Bd5 17. Qf5 O-O 18. Rhe1 Ra7 19. Bxe7 Rxe7 20. Rxe7 Nxe7
21. Qe5 Qg6+ 22. Ka1 Bxb3 23. axb3 Nc6 24. Qc5 Rd8 25. d5 Qd6 26. Qc3 h6 27.
Rd2 Nb4 28. Ne5 Re8 29. Nd3 Nxd5 30. Qd4 Qc6 31. Ka2 Nf6 32. f3 Qc7 33. Qc3
Qxh2 34. Nc5 Qf4 35. b4 Rc8 36. Ne6 Qb8 37. Qxc8+ Qxc8 38. Rd8+ Qxd8 39. Nxd8
Nd5 40. Kb3 Kf8 41. Nc6 h5 42. Nb8 h4 0-1
In Rd 4, Moulthun missed a winning chance against Zhaoqin Peng (GM 2437). On move 26, Zhaoquin offered an exchange of Q's and, unfortunately, Moulton retreated his Q. If Moulton exchanges Q's (26.Qxd6 Rxd6), it seems to be an even exchange because he cannot go on to capture the opponents N without losing his R. But if he first moves that R, threatening mate (27. Re1), Peng is forced to protect his K (27... Kf8), and now Moulthun can safely capture the N losing only his pawn (28.dxc6 Rxc6). So close to another GM scalp!

MichaelBaron
25-10-2006, 10:49 AM
Rogers is on 4/5 - Just half a point behind Brodsky who is an outright leader

Igor_Goldenberg
25-10-2006, 11:14 PM
In Rd 4, Moulthun missed a winning chance against Zhaoqin Peng (GM 2437). On move 26, Zhaoquin offered an exchange of Q's and, unfortunately, Moulton retreated his Q. If Moulton exchanges Q's (26.Qxd6 Rxd6), it seems to be an even exchange because he cannot go on to capture the opponents N without losing his R. But if he first moves that R, threatening mate (27. Re1), Peng is forced to protect his K (27... Kf8), and now Moulthun can safely capture the N losing only his pawn (28.dxc6 Rxc6). So close to another GM scalp!

Indeed. quite strange they both missed it.

soupman_2
25-10-2006, 11:21 PM
Here is a link to an interview with the three young Dutch grandmasters, all of whom are being broadcast tonight. Ian Rogers is playing one of them, Jan Werle. The other two, Erwin l’Ami and Jan Smeets are playing each other:

Here is a taste of their interview:

Are you professional chess players?
Smeets: “Only Erwin is pro. I study Economics in Rotterdam.
Werle: “I’m studying Law in Groningen.”

Don’t you want to be professionals?
Smeets: “I was a pro for a year but I just didn’t like it. Not sure why… I think it was the periods between tournaments. Then you need to fill up one and a half month of free time, I just didn’t like it. It was difficult. Now I train in between things and that’s nice.”
Werle: “I also tried it and was pro for a year. But it’s just no fun, too dull. Now I study chess as a hobby and that’s okay!”
l’Ami: “Incredible. I certainly like it. I’m not bothered by all these things.”

http://www.doggers-schaak.nl/lang_nleen-kijkje-in-de-keuken-van-drie-jonge-grootmeesterslang_nl-lang_enin-the-kitchen-of-three-young-dutch-grandmasterslang_en/

eclectic
25-10-2006, 11:32 PM
Any chance the four Australians might be teamed up for a similar interview.

pax
26-10-2006, 08:52 AM
Ian Rogers beat Werle (2551) to join the lead with two others. Moulthun beat Babak Tondivar (2367) to go to 3.5/6, and plays GM Piskov in round 7. Smerdon drew with Hoeksema (2374), and is also on 3.5.

Moulthun is clearly on for another IM norm if he can keep these performances up for three more rounds.

pax
26-10-2006, 09:02 AM
Here is a taste of their interview:

I thought this bit was the most surprising:


From the Kasparov books?
Werle: “Yes, they are great. Sergei Tiviakov is my coach by the way. Normally after a tournament we get together and we look at my games. He guides my study plan and tells me which world champions to study.”

And you, Jan? Do you have a coach?
Smeets: “No. Sometimes I get a book and a chess set and I replay games. That’s quite fun. I never did this. Until I was sixteen I never looked at openings at all.”

Garvinator
27-10-2006, 09:27 PM
Everyone down south must be happy that starting Sunday night play doesnt begin till 12am :eek:

eclectic
27-10-2006, 09:33 PM
Everyone down south must be happy that starting Sunday night play doesnt begin till 12am :eek:

Don't you up north worry that the analysis will fade if you get it an hour earlier? :lol:

BEN DOVER
27-10-2006, 10:18 PM
Everyone down south must be happy that starting Sunday night play doesnt begin till 12am :eek:


Garvin didnt I see you in lord of the rings? Werent you a hobbit?

ElevatorEscapee
27-10-2006, 10:23 PM
Garvin didnt I see you in lord of the rings? Werent you a hobbit?
Nah, he was one of the wizards... Gandalf the Grey became Gandalf the White after Sauramon the White's demotion... hence this left an opening for "Garvin the Gray". :cool:

pax
28-10-2006, 07:01 PM
By my calculations, Moulton needs a win with black against Van Der Elburg (2359) to secure his second IM norm.

It's interesting looking at the Australians in Hoogeveen - Rogers, Smerdon, Ly and Weeks. It looks very much like the core of a future Olympiad team. Who knows - the way Moulton is going, maybe it could even be the next one?

Garvinator
28-10-2006, 08:59 PM
and they are off in the last round.

Watto
29-10-2006, 12:30 AM
By my calculations, Moulton needs a win with black against Van Der Elburg (2359) to secure his second IM norm.

It's interesting looking at the Australians in Hoogeveen - Rogers, Smerdon, Ly and Weeks. It looks very much like the core of a future Olympiad team. Who knows - the way Moulton is going, maybe it could even be the next one?
Hope you're right pax. It's just come up as a win for Moulthun!

pax
29-10-2006, 08:47 AM
According to the official site: "IM-normen waren er voor Ali Bitalzadeh, Robert Ris, Alexander van Beek en Moulthon Ly."

Fantastic result! :clap: :clap: :clap: (also listed as a rating prize winner)

WhiteElephant
29-10-2006, 09:36 AM
Eggselent :clap:

Moulthun is improving every tournament. Hopefully he'll get more opportunities to keep playing the big OS tourneys.

pax
29-10-2006, 08:43 PM
Does anyone know the age of the youngest Australian player to score an IM norm? Zhao was 13 when he secured the IM title at the Oceania Zonal, but I don't know if he had actually scored any norms by that time..

Edit: I believe Smerdon's Zonal title in 1999 at age 14 was also an IM norm. Any younger candidates?

Kevin Bonham
29-10-2006, 10:10 PM
Did Tao get one at a very young age? I can't remember but know he had some super-strong performances early on.

Moulthun's result is fantastic!

Alan Shore
29-10-2006, 10:13 PM
Congrats Moulthun, another great performance from the Queenslander! :)

pax
30-10-2006, 09:35 AM
It's also worth noting that Moulthun will break the 2300 barrier with this result, and hence will be entitled to the FM title in the conventional fashion. I imagine he might save his money though, as the IM title looks to be beckoning!

Oepty
30-10-2006, 05:20 PM
Did Tao get one at a very young age? I can't remember but know he had some super-strong performances early on.

Moulthun's result is fantastic!

Trevor Tao would have been 16 when he finished 2nd (I think) in the 1994 Australian Champs behind Wallace and scored an IM norm. I think Wallace is younger and he might also have scored an IM norm.
Scott

EDIT: Wallace is a year older according to FIDE.

pax
31-10-2006, 07:59 AM
Trevor Tao would have been 16 when he finished 2nd (I think) in the 1994 Australian Champs behind Wallace and scored an IM norm. I think Wallace is younger and he might also have scored an IM norm.
Scott

EDIT: Wallace is a year older according to FIDE.

That's right - 93/94 Champs. He was unrated at the time, so his first FIDE rating was over 2400.

http://ozbase.paxmans.net/searchpgn.php?value=tao+1993&submitted=Y