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ChessGuru
17-02-2004, 10:23 AM
Here are some revised results after finding that a tournament was left out of the count! Hopefully this will be the final revision:

Australian Chess Federation

GP Prize List 2003
Chq No Name State Rating Points Prize Place
Open
ROGERS Ian NSW 2581 100.00 875.00 1st
SOLOMON Stephen Qld 2344 96.00 525.00 2nd
XIE George NSW 2200 64.80 350.00 3rd
CASTOR David NSW 1788 55.50 4th (see U2000)
JOHANSEN Darryl Vic 2408 46.00 200.00 5th
STEAD Kerry NSW 1981 41.50 6th (see U2000)
REJ Tomek NSW 2067 36.57 7th (see Junior)
LANE Gary NSW 2400 36.50 150.00 8th
2,100.00
Under 2000
CASTOR David NSW 1788 67.00 525.00 1st
EDWARDS Jacob Qld 1851 52.00 350.00 2nd
STEAD Kerry NSW 1981 49.50 200.00 3rd
ZVEDENIOUK Ilya NSW 1875 38.96 150.00 4th
1,225.00
Under 1600
KEUNING Anthony NSW 1517 54.83 525.00 1st
HVISTENDAHL Robert NSW 1505 41.88 350.00 2nd
LOSH Gary NSW 1395 41.33 200.00 3rd
JURD Sebastion NSW 1394 40.88 150.00 4th
1,225.00
Junior
XIE George NSW 2200 83.50 (see Open)
REJ Tomek NSW 2067 80.00 350.00 1st
BARNARD Casey Qld 1669 66.90 200.00 2nd
YU Ronald NSW 1782 54.80 150.00 3rd
700.00
Women
SZUVEGES Narelle Vic 1720 88.20 200.00 1st
Unrated
Boardman Jeffery NSW 32.00 100.00 1st equal
Kirshnei Pedro NSW 32.00 100.00 1st equal
State
BONHAM Kevin Tas 1880 29.10 100.00 14th Open
COWLEY Bob SA 2088 27.75 50.00 15th Open equal
ZARIC Srbo SA 2201 27.75 50.00 15th Open equal
ROUT Ian ACT 2127 18.46 100.00 27th Open
300.00
$5,950.00

arosar
17-02-2004, 12:02 PM
Woohoo! Looks like a gent from Hyde Park has won first prize.

AR

samspade
17-02-2004, 12:10 PM
Woohoo! Looks like a gent from Hyde Park has won first prize.

ARWho?

Paul S
17-02-2004, 01:23 PM
Here are the results, not yet ratified by the ACF. But for what they are worth...

Australian Chess Federation

GP Prize List 2003
Chq No Name State Rating Points Prize Place
Open
ROGERS Ian NSW 2581 100.00 875.00 1st
SOLOMON Stephen Qld 2344 96.00 525.00 2nd
CASTOR David NSW 1788 55.50 3rd (see U2000)
XIE George NSW 2200 53.50 350.00 4th
JOHANSEN Darryl Vic 2408 46.00 200.00 5th
STEAD Kerry NSW 1981 41.50 6th (see U2000)
REJ Tomek NSW 2067 36.57 7th (see Junior)
LANE Gary NSW 2400 36.50 150.00 8th
2,100.00
Under 2000
CASTOR David NSW 1788 67.00 525.00 1st
EDWARDS Jacob Qld 1851 52.00 350.00 2nd
ZVEDENIOUK Ilya NSW 1875 38.96 200.00 3rd
STEAD Kerry NSW 1981 35.67 150.00 4th
1,225.00
Under 1600
KEUNING Anthony NSW 1517 54.83 525.00 1st
HVISTENDAHL Robert NSW 1505 41.88 350.00 2nd
LOSH Gary NSW 1395 41.33 200.00 3rd
SONG Angela NSW 1394 37.75 150.00 4th
1,225.00
Junior
REJ Tomek NSW 2067 80.00 350.00 1st
XIE George NSW 2200 75.50 2nd (see Open)
BARNARD Casey Qld 1669 66.90 200.00 2nd
WONGWICHIT Phachara Qld 1782 48.40 150.00 3rd
700.00
Women
SZUVEGES Narelle Vic 000 80.20 200.00 1st
Unrated
Boardman Jeffery NSW 32.00 100.00 1st equal
Kirshnei Pedro NSW 32.00 100.00 1st equal
State
BONHAM Kevin Tas 1880 29.10 100.00 13th Open
COWLEY Bob SA 2088 27.75 50.00 14th Open equal
ZARIC Srbo SA 2201 27.75 50.00 14th Open equal
BOYD Tristan WA 2127 12.00 100.00 40th Open
300.00
$5,950.00

Thankyou David Cordover ("Chess Guru") for the results.

Before people start criticising David for the lateness of the results, I think we should ALL keep in mind (refer David's post of 9.25am 28/1/04 in the thread "Australian Grand Prix") that David already had a lot of other chess commitments on his plate. More importantly though, at least David HAD A GO at doing something that NOBODY else was prepared to take on (ie co-ordinating the 2003 GP).

While for myself I don't really care if there is a 2004 GP or not, I am disappointed (but not surprised) that NOBODY on this BB (in particular the people who profess "concern" about the future of the GP) have thought fit to at least say "thankyou" to Bob Keast and his assistant Garvin Gray (refer ACF Bulletin #251 of 3/2/04) for taking on the role of running the 2004 GP.

Anyway, FWIW (it does not bother me if there is a 2004 GP or not), let me be the first on the BB to say thankyou (and offer encouragement and best wishes) to Bob Keast and Garvin Gray for taking on the role of co-ordinating the 2004 GP.

arosar
17-02-2004, 01:34 PM
Geez Paulie! Sometimes you really sound like one of these flippin' tree-hugging new age blokes. Next we know you'll have us in bonding sessions and all that mate. OK then - cheers Bob and Gazza.

AR

Commentator
17-02-2004, 01:49 PM
Thankyou David Cordover ("Chess Guru") for the results.

Before people start criticising David for the lateness of the results, I think we should ALL keep in mind (refer David's post of 9.25am 28/1/04 in the thread "Australian Grand Prix") that David already had a lot of other chess commitments on his plate. More importantly though, at least David HAD A GO at doing something that NOBODY else was prepared to take on (ie co-ordinating the 2003 GP).

While for myself I don't really care if there is a 2004 GP or not, I am disappointed (but not surprised) that NOBODY on this BB (in particular the people who profess "concern" about the future of the GP) have thought fit to at least say "thankyou" to Bob Keast and his assistant Garvin Gray (refer ACF Bulletin #251 of 3/2/04) for taking on the role of running the 2004 GP.

Anyway, FWIW (it does not bother me if there is a 2004 GP or not), let me be the first on the BB to say thankyou (and offer encouragement and best wishes) to Bob Keast and Garvin Gray for taking on the role of co-ordinating the 2004 GP.

For the uninitiated what is the Grand Prix. Is it restricted to northern events? Where do I read the objectives and the schedule? Where does the money come from? :confused:

C

jenni
17-02-2004, 03:22 PM
For the uninitiated what is the Grand Prix. Is it restricted to northern events? Where do I read the objectives and the schedule? Where does the money come from? :confused:

C

I am not sure where you can read about the objectives - no doubt when the web-page for 2004 goes up, you will be able to do so - (and heartfelt thanks to Bob and GG for volunteering to look after the GP this year!). I think the basic idea is to get more people playing chess, by giving them an incentive.

What follows is the list of Grand Prix tournaments that I took from a bulletin in 2003. Tournaments get added during the year e.g. ACT had 3 in 2003. As you can see they are across Australia, although NSW and QLD have the most.

The weekly e-mail bulletin always has the list of GP tournaments at the end of it.

Tournament organisers pay a fee to be part of the GP circuit, so that is where the money comes from.




Australia Day Weekender
Category 2
NSW
Jan 25-26
Contact P.Cassettari: pcass@zeta.org.au

Newcastle Open 2003
Category 2
NSW
Feb 8-9
For info phone (02) 49433862, (02) 49469627, (02) 49612223

Taree RSL Open
Category 1
NSW
Feb 15-16
Contact Endel Lane (02) 6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

Tasmanian Open Championship- Burnie
Category 1
TAS
Mar 8-10
Contact Neville Ledger (03) 64311280
nlchess@tassie.net.au

Ballarat Begonia Weekend Tournament
Category 3
VIC
Mar 8-10
Contact B. van Riel bvanriel@ncable.net.au

Dubbo RSL Open
Category 1
NSW
Mar 15-16
Contact Alexander Aich (02) 68844561
sjaich@tpg.com.au

Doeberl Cup
Category 3
ACT
Apr 18-21
Contact Roger McCart
'phone (06) 6251 6190
Roger.McCart@anu.edu.au

Chess World ANZAC Day weekender
Category 3
April 25-27
VIC
cordover@chessworld.com.au


37th. Peninsula Open
Category 1
QLD
May 3-5
Contact Mark Stokes (07) 32056042
markcstokes@hotmail.com

Laurieton May Open
Category 1
NSW
May3-4
Contact Endel Lane (02) 6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

NSWCA Mat Weekender
Category 2
NSW
May 17-18
Contact P.Cassettari
pcass@zeta.org.au

Tasmanian Chess Championship
Category 1
TAS
Jun 7-9
Contact K.Bonham (03) 62248487
k_bonham@tassie.net.au

NSW Open Championship
Category 3
NSW
Jun 7-9
Contact: P.Cassettari
pcass@zeta.org.au

Taree RSL June Open
Category 1
NSW
Jun 14-15
Contact Endel Lane (02) 6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

Gold Coast Open (Gold Coast CC)
Category 3
QLD
Jun 21-22
Contact Graeme Gardiner
ggardiner@gardinerchess.com
(07) 55305794

Caloundra Open
3?
QLD
Jun28/29
Contact Derrick Jeffries
chesswis@australis.aunz.com

University Open
Category 3
SA
JUL 12-13
chess@adelaide.edu.au ph (08) 83033029 or andrew.saint@adelaide.edu.au ph (08) 83323752

NSWCA August Weekender
Category 2
NSW
Aug 2-3
Contact P.Cassettari
pcass@zeta.org.au

Father's Day Tournament
Category 3
VIC
Sep 6th/7th
Contact: cordover@chessworld.com.au

Gold Coast Classic (Gold Coast CC)
Category 3
QLD
Sep 20-21
Contact Graeme Gardiner
ggardiner@gardinerchess.com
(07) 55305794

12th. Redcliffe Challenge
Category 2
QLD
Sep 27-28
Contact Mark Stokes (07) 32056042)
markcstokes@hotmail.com

Tweed Open
Category 3
QLD
Oct 4-5
Contact Audie Pennefather pennefather@iprimus.com.au

Koala Open
Category 3
NSW
Oct 5-6
Contact Brian Jones
chessaus@chessaustralia.com.au

Laurieton Open
Category 1
NSW
Nov 1-2
Contact Endel Lane (02) 6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

November weekender
Category 1
TAS
Nov 1-2 or 1-3
Contact K.Bonham (03) 62248487
k_bonham@tassie.net.au

Gosford Open
Category 2
NSW
Nov 8-9
Contact Lachlan Lee
I.yee@unsw.edu.au

Taree RSL Spring Open
Category 1
NSW
Nov 15-16
Contact Endel Lane (02)6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

NSWCA November weekender
Category 2
Nov 22-23
contact
P.Cassettari
pcass@zeta.org.au

X-Mas Swiss Tournament
Category 3
December 20-21
cordover@chessworld.com.au

Total 26 NSW 14 QLD 6 VIC 1 ACT 1 TAS 3 SA 1

Garvinator
17-02-2004, 06:43 PM
I am not sure where you can read about the objectives - no doubt when the web-page for 2004 goes up, you will be able to do so - (and heartfelt thanks to Bob and GG for volunteering to look after the GP this year!). I think the basic idea is to get more people playing chess, by giving them an incentive.

What follows is the list of Grand Prix tournaments that I took from a bulletin in 2003. Tournaments get added during the year e.g. ACT had 3 in 2003. As you can see they are across Australia, although NSW and QLD have the most.

The weekly e-mail bulletin always has the list of GP tournaments at the end of it.

Tournament organisers pay a fee to be part of the GP circuit, so that is where the money comes from.




Australia Day Weekender
Category 2
NSW
Jan 25-26
Contact P.Cassettari: pcass@zeta.org.au

Newcastle Open 2003
Category 2
NSW
Feb 8-9
For info phone (02) 49433862, (02) 49469627, (02) 49612223

Taree RSL Open
Category 1
NSW
Feb 15-16
Contact Endel Lane (02) 6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

Tasmanian Open Championship- Burnie
Category 1
TAS
Mar 8-10
Contact Neville Ledger (03) 64311280
nlchess@tassie.net.au

Ballarat Begonia Weekend Tournament
Category 3
VIC
Mar 8-10
Contact B. van Riel bvanriel@ncable.net.au

Dubbo RSL Open
Category 1
NSW
Mar 15-16
Contact Alexander Aich (02) 68844561
sjaich@tpg.com.au

Doeberl Cup
Category 3
ACT
Apr 18-21
Contact Roger McCart
'phone (06) 6251 6190
Roger.McCart@anu.edu.au

Chess World ANZAC Day weekender
Category 3
April 25-27
VIC
cordover@chessworld.com.au


37th. Peninsula Open
Category 1
QLD
May 3-5
Contact Mark Stokes (07) 32056042
markcstokes@hotmail.com

Laurieton May Open
Category 1
NSW
May3-4
Contact Endel Lane (02) 6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

NSWCA Mat Weekender
Category 2
NSW
May 17-18
Contact P.Cassettari
pcass@zeta.org.au

Tasmanian Chess Championship
Category 1
TAS
Jun 7-9
Contact K.Bonham (03) 62248487
k_bonham@tassie.net.au

NSW Open Championship
Category 3
NSW
Jun 7-9
Contact: P.Cassettari
pcass@zeta.org.au

Taree RSL June Open
Category 1
NSW
Jun 14-15
Contact Endel Lane (02) 6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

Gold Coast Open (Gold Coast CC)
Category 3
QLD
Jun 21-22
Contact Graeme Gardiner
ggardiner@gardinerchess.com
(07) 55305794

Caloundra Open
3?
QLD
Jun28/29
Contact Derrick Jeffries
chesswis@australis.aunz.com

University Open
Category 3
SA
JUL 12-13
chess@adelaide.edu.au ph (08) 83033029 or andrew.saint@adelaide.edu.au ph (08) 83323752

NSWCA August Weekender
Category 2
NSW
Aug 2-3
Contact P.Cassettari
pcass@zeta.org.au

Father's Day Tournament
Category 3
VIC
Sep 6th/7th
Contact: cordover@chessworld.com.au

Gold Coast Classic (Gold Coast CC)
Category 3
QLD
Sep 20-21
Contact Graeme Gardiner
ggardiner@gardinerchess.com
(07) 55305794

12th. Redcliffe Challenge
Category 2
QLD
Sep 27-28
Contact Mark Stokes (07) 32056042)
markcstokes@hotmail.com

Tweed Open
Category 3
QLD
Oct 4-5
Contact Audie Pennefather pennefather@iprimus.com.au

Koala Open
Category 3
NSW
Oct 5-6
Contact Brian Jones
chessaus@chessaustralia.com.au

Laurieton Open
Category 1
NSW
Nov 1-2
Contact Endel Lane (02) 6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

November weekender
Category 1
TAS
Nov 1-2 or 1-3
Contact K.Bonham (03) 62248487
k_bonham@tassie.net.au

Gosford Open
Category 2
NSW
Nov 8-9
Contact Lachlan Lee
I.yee@unsw.edu.au

Taree RSL Spring Open
Category 1
NSW
Nov 15-16
Contact Endel Lane (02)6559 9060
endel@fasternet.com.au

NSWCA November weekender
Category 2
Nov 22-23
contact
P.Cassettari
pcass@zeta.org.au

X-Mas Swiss Tournament
Category 3
December 20-21
cordover@chessworld.com.au

Total 26 NSW 14 QLD 6 VIC 1 ACT 1 TAS 3 SA 1

here is what should be a scary thought for everyone, this is the first time i have seen a comprehensive list like this for the gp calendar. I see the tournaments listed each week in the acf bulletins, but have never seen a complete list like this.

Are there other tournaments to be added to this, so i know for the future. Also can someone give me further information regarding formats etc for how points are worked out for gp events :oops:

jenni
17-02-2004, 08:16 PM
here is what should be a scary thought for everyone, this is the first time i have seen a comprehensive list like this for the gp calendar. I see the tournaments listed each week in the acf bulletins, but have never seen a complete list like this.

Are there other tournaments to be added to this, so i know for the future. Also can someone give me further information regarding formats etc for how points are worked out for gp events :oops:

Jase would be a really good source, as I think he designed the "modern" GP. Also Norm Braybrooke (Redcliff Chess Club?), had a fabulous website in 2002, with everthing explained. The website seems to have vanished, but he could give you a lot of info I am sure.

Bob1
18-02-2004, 07:44 PM
Jase would be a really good source, as I think he designed the "modern" GP. Also Norm Braybrooke (Redcliff Chess Club?), had a fabulous website in 2002, with everthing explained. The website seems to have vanished, but he could give you a lot of info I am sure.
2004 GRAND PRIX

updated 03/02/2004

back to ACF


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GP 2003 winners list Tournament List Tournament Results
Click for each Class progress scores

Open Under2000 Under1600 Junior Women Unrated


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Scoring Points

Each player’s best 5 scores, by category, are accumulated to determine the prize winners, in the 2002 Grand Prix. The closer allocation of points between categories gives more significance to smaller events, encouraging broader participation.
Ratings Used

Ratings for Grand Prix points will be as shown in the December 2003 ACF master list .Players who do not appear on the December 2003 ACF Master List but appear on the January 2004 FIDE Rating List as rated 2000 and over are only eligible for open prizes (and junior and womens prizes if eligible), other players on the FIDE list are only eligible for U2000 prizes . Players who appear on neither list are only eligible for unrated or open prizes (and junior and womens prizes if eligible).
Points

Class 1 Class 2 Class 3
1st 12 16 20
2nd 9 12 15
3rd 6 9 12
4th 4 6 9
5th 3 4 6




Points-Allocation

When tournaments are played in divisions matching GP divisions (Open : U2000 : U1600 ) , points will be awarded to those divisions . Junior : Women : Unrated points being awarded starting with the Open division and cascading down through U2000 then U1600 until 1st. to 5th. Points have been allocated.

In “ Open” tournaments, GP points will be allocated from the 1st. Down and players can gain points in more than one division provided they meet the division qualifications.

Tournament Classes

Tournaments are graded into classes, which are determined by total prize money on offer:

Value of Trophies , or other non cash prizes are excluded when calculating "Total Prize Money"

In practice,this formula works out as follows:

Class 1: Total prize money less than $1,500
Class 2: Total prize money $1,500 – $2,499
Class 3: Total prize money $2,500 or more
FEES

Tournament Organisers are Required to pay fees:

Class 1 up-front $50 plus $2 per player
Class2 up-front $100 plus $2 per player
Class3 up-front $150 Plus $2 per player
Events held in Tasmania : South Australia :Western Australia northern Territory and outside other State capitals are entitled to a $50 reduction in up-front fee.
A MAXIMUM of $500 shall apply to any one tournament
Prizes

(subject to budget approval)

Place Open U/2000 U/1600 Junior
1st 875 525 525 350
2nd 525 350 350 200
3rd 350 200 200 150
4th 200 150 150
5th 150
Women: 350 Unrated: 200 State prizes: 200
Estimated total prize pool: $6,000

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A player may win one prize only. Juniors must be under 18 years of age as at 1st January 2003. State prizes are awarded to players in each state where there are no prize winners.

The 2004 Grand Prix is being co-ordinated by Robert Keast “. Who can be contacted at e-mail:robert.keast@didata.com.au, snail mail:c/- NSWCA PO Box 2418 Sydney 2001
or telephone:02-8249-5003Mobile:0417-497-258

The ACF 2004 Grand Prix – coming to a tournament near you.

Bob1
18-02-2004, 07:45 PM
Interested in comments
btw thanks to Norm B for the information.

ChessGuru
19-02-2004, 11:58 AM
I have revised the prizes in my initial post, so please go back and check the scores/prizewinners again.

Thanks.

Bill Gletsos
19-02-2004, 02:00 PM
Koala Open
Category 3
NSW
Oct 5-6
Contact Brian Jones
chessaus@chessaustralia.com.au
It should be pointed out that Brian Jones announced last year that this tournament was cancelled. It was therefore never held.

The NSWCA decided to run a Cat 3 GP tournament in its place over the October long weekend called the Ryde Eastwood Open.

skip to my lou
19-02-2004, 02:26 PM
must be really rich..

Paul S
19-02-2004, 02:31 PM
The NSWCA decided to run a Cat 3 GP tournament in its palace over the October long weekend called the Ryde Eastwood Open.


must be really rich..

I think Bill meant place rather than palace in his post!
:D :D :D

Bill Gletsos
19-02-2004, 02:59 PM
I have corrected it. ;)

Garvinator
19-02-2004, 03:06 PM
now we should go and delete our posts as they look silly. :eek:

Kerry Stead
19-02-2004, 03:36 PM
David,
Thanks for the corrections.
Good job with getting them done.

Forevergm
25-02-2004, 03:23 PM
Thx for the results David. I think u have done a very good job. However could u please explain to me why i (Ronald Yu) only managed to get 16 points and only have 1 result in the U2000's? I was under the impression that the rating used to count the GP was the rating at the start of the year, and i was well below 2000 back then.

Bill Gletsos
25-02-2004, 05:13 PM
Thx for the results David. I think u have done a very good job. However could u please explain to me why i (Ronald Yu) only managed to get 16 points and only have 1 result in the U2000's? I was under the impression that the rating used to count the GP was the rating at the start of the year, and i was well below 2000 back then.
Yes your December 2002 rating should have been used for the whole year.

Bob1
25-02-2004, 05:29 PM
Thx for the results David. I think u have done a very good job. However could u please explain to me why i (Ronald Yu) only managed to get 16 points and only have 1 result in the U2000's? I was under the impression that the rating used to count the GP was the rating at the start of the year, and i was well below 2000 back then.
Good Question !

I can't comment on 2003 - but the aim for 2004 is to make information available as soon as possible on the website.

http://www.loganarts.com/gp2004/gp2004.htm

Mistakes will be made (I make a career from them) but at least in the public domain they will be corrected quickly as the people with a vested interest will point them out

ursogr8
14-06-2004, 09:58 PM
Good Question !

I can't comment on 2003 - but the aim for 2004 is to make information available as soon as possible on the website.

http://www.loganarts.com/gp2004/gp2004.htm

Mistakes will be made (I make a career from them) but at least in the public domain they will be corrected quickly as the people with a vested interest will point them out

Am I on the correct thread here? I had a couple of players ask me today where to see the Grand prix results for the Ballarat in the first quarter this year.

ggray are you there? You usually know your way around. Can you help?

starter

Garvinator
14-06-2004, 10:15 PM
Am I on the correct thread here? I had a couple of players ask me today where to see the Grand prix results for the Ballarat in the first quarter this year.

ggray are you there? You usually know your way around. Can you help?

starter
i should be able to help as second in charge of the results :lol:

Here goes:

Bob's son is the one who designed the web page and so only bob and his son can access it to change results. i have most of the files i require to do up the points as they stand now, but I emailed bob a while ago to confirm a few things about points from doeberl. He didnt reply.

I have since found out that his email is out of date, but i can still contact him other ways now. This situation should be sorted within the week and the complete standings should be available somehow.

I will manually do the points up myself if i have to and send them to paul b to place on the acf website main page.

ursogr8
15-06-2004, 08:24 AM
i should be able to help as second in charge of the results :lol:

Here goes:

Bob's son is the one who designed the web page and so only bob and his son can access it to change results. i have most of the files i require to do up the points as they stand now, but I emailed bob a while ago to confirm a few things about points from doeberl. He didnt reply.

I have since found out that his email is out of date, but i can still contact him other ways now. This situation should be sorted within the week and the complete standings should be available somehow.

I will manually do the points up myself if i have to and send them to paul b to place on the acf website main page.

Thanks for the response gg''

Hard to choose between the rapid progress of ChessGuru in 2003 of the speed of the current crew in 2004.
Have Ballarat paid their GP money?

starter

Garvinator
15-06-2004, 08:33 AM
Hard to choose between the rapid progress of ChessGuru in 2003 of the speed of the current crew in 2004. at the moment you are right, at least we have a web page :eek: but not much use when the main organiser is uncontactable for a while and the assistant cant access it :confused:


Have Ballarat paid their GP money? Dont know as i had thought bob keast was handling that stuff. Bob and I had agreed at the start that he was be responsible for chasing that stuff up as he knows more ppl than i do. I was going to be responsible for making sure the results were right and points added up correctly.