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snowdrop23
11-02-2006, 12:19 PM
It's my first post here, so hi everyone at Chesschat :D. I'm 18 next month and my fics online rating is about 1000 :lol:. I live in Sydney. I want to start my OTB chess career and play in tournaments.

Could someone list some official tournaments that I could play in (a website maybe?)? I don't mind tought competition, but its just that I don't know where to get started since I'm unrated and its my first time...

P.S. How are clubs? I think I can improve on my own, but a club might be useful. I was thinking of joining the chess club at Sydney Uni next year.

jenni
11-02-2006, 12:47 PM
This is the website for nsw

http://www.nswca.org.au/

It has a calendar for weekenders and links to the various chess clubs.

Sydny Uni has a chess club and will be hosting the Australian Universities Rapid Championships this year (title to be ratified by ACF).

http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~jchan3/succ/

Info on chess generally

http://www.auschess.org.au/

There is a comp held over the 4 days of Easter in Canberra called Doeberl - it has 3 divisions and huge numbers, so maybe one to think about playing in.

brett
11-02-2006, 03:17 PM
Tournaments in NSW for 2006

Please note these details will change, please check this page before attending tournaments.

Date Event Location Contact

28/12/05-9/01/06 Australian Championships Carlton Crest Hotel Brisbane http://www.*******2006.com

28-29 Jan January Weekender Cat 2 North Sydney Leagues Club NSWCA Cat 2 North Sydney Leagues Club NSWCA Details

4-5 Feb Newcastle Open Cat 1 Cardiff Panthers George Lithgow glithgow@bigpond.net.au Details

11-12 Feb Toukley Open Toukley Gary Losh Phone 4390 8176 Details

20 Feb WSCP Lightning Tournament Rooty Hill RSL Club Peter Cassettari pcass@zeta.org.au

21 Feb St George Club Championships Chris Nikolaou chris@stgeorgechess.org

22 Feb Clubs Delegates Meeting for NSWCA grade matches 7.30pm at Ryde-Eastwood

19 Feb- 30 Apr City of Sydney Champs 9 Sundays 9 rds Bridge Association NSWCA Details

27 Feb-5May Western Suburbs CP Local Clubs Peter Cassettari pcass@zeta.org.au

25-26 March Dubbo RSL Open inc Cat 1 Dubbo RSL Alexander Aich sjaich@tpg.com.au

9 April City of Sydney Rapid Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

14-17 April Doeberl Cup Cat 5 Canberra Roger McCart Roger.McCart@anu.edu.au

6-7 May Laurieton May Open Cat 1 Laurieton Endel Lane endelinn@yahoo.com.au

7 May City of Sydney Lightning Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

14 May NSW Teams Challenge 1 Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

16 May Big Boards Match St George V North Sydney Chris Nikolaou chris@stgeorgechess.org

17 May WSCP Presentation and Lighting Peter Cassettari pcass@zeta.org.au

20-21 May May Weekender Cat 2 St George????? NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

22May-Aug Grade Matches Local Clubs NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

27-28 May Mingara May Major (u2100), Mingara Recreation Club, Tumbi Umbi, Mal Murrell, malmurrell@hotmail.com

10-12 June NSW Open Championship Cat 5 Hakoah NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

17-18 June Taree RSL June Open Cat 1 Taree Endel Lane endelinn@yahoo.com.au

24-25 June Common Man Tournament Wollongong scott nicholson aussiegrandmaster@hotmail.com

9-14 July (Sun-Fri) NSW Junior Championships Lidcombe RSL Youth Centre Margaret Cuckson www.nswjcl.org.au

16 July NSW Rapid Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

22-23 July ANU Open Canberra ACTCA / Shaun Press shaun.press@cs.anu.edu.au

29-30 July CJS Purdy Centenary weekender. Cat 2 TBA NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

5-6 Aug Coal City Open Newcastle George Lithgow glithgow@bigpond.net.au

August Metropolitan Leagues rapid TBA

13th Aug NSW Teams Challenge 2 Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

31 July-25 Sep Rooty Hill Open 9rds Rooty Hill RSL Club www.rootyhillchess.org Peter Cassettari pcass@zeta.org.au

20 Aug-29 Oct NSW State Championships Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

5 Sept Ford Memorial North Sydney Norm Greenwood normg@bigpond.com

6 Sept- Oct Interleagues chess Premiership Various Clubs Mel Alejandro Mob 04100 45412

7 Sept 2 Nov St George Swiss 9rds St George Chris Nikolaou chris@stgeorgechess.org

13 Sept Grade Match Presentation Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

Sept 16-17 Fischerbooks Over 40's Tournament Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

Sept 17 Schools Chess Challenge tba Margaret Cuckson www.nswjcl.org.au

5-6 Oct NSW Girls Championships Lidcombe RSL Youth Centre Margaret Cuckson www.nswjcl.org.au

30Sept-2 Oct Ryde Eastwood Open Cat 3 Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

9 Oct Rooty Hill Club Championship Rooty Hill RSL Club www.rootyhillchess.org Peter Cassettari pcass@zeta.org.au

9 Oct Fishers Ghost Open Campbelltown Kerry Lee Floyd3@bigpond.com.au

11-13 Oct (Wed-Fri) City of Sydney Junior Championships

Lidcombe RSL Youth Centre Margaret Cuckson www.nswjcl.org.au

16 Oct Canterbury Open Canterbury Leagues 9533-1759 Paul Sike psike@energy.com.au

28-29 Oct Laurieton Open Cat 1 Laurieton Endel Lane endelinn@yahoo.com.au

4-5 Nov Gosford Open Weekender Gosford Keith Farrell nswcacountryrep@gosfordchess.com

8 Nov Interleagues chess Premiership Presentation night Ryde-Eastwood Mel Alejandro Mob 04100 45412

11-12 Nov Coffs Harbour Open Cat 3 Coffs Harbour Bill Ross billrossincoffs@bigpond.com

18-19 Nov Ralph Seberry Memorial Weekender Cat 2 North Sydney Leagues Club NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

26 Nov NSW Lightning & NSWCA AGM Ryde-Eastwood NSWCA http://www.nswca.org.au

2-3 Dec NSW Country Teams Champs TBA Keith Farrell nswcacountryrep@gosfordchess.com

2-3 Dec Tuggeranong Vikings Weekender Canberra Michael Whitely whitelys@bigpond.com.au

5 Dec St George Summer Open St George Chris Nikolaou chris@stgeorgechess.org


Please advise if any details are incorrect to pcass@zeta.org.au and webmaster@nswca.org.au

brett
11-02-2006, 03:20 PM
It's my first post here, so hi everyone at Chesschat :D. I'm 18 next month and my fics online rating is about 1000 :lol:. I live in Sydney. I want to start my OTB chess career and play in tournaments.

Could someone list some official tournaments that I could play in (a website maybe?)? I don't mind tought competition, but its just that I don't know where to get started since I'm unrated and its my first time...

P.S. How are clubs? I think I can improve on my own, but a club might be useful. I was thinking of joining the chess club at Sydney Uni next year.

I would suggest joining a chess club. You will improve quickly, make friends and learn about the chess scene much faster. Plus its fun :)

snowdrop23
11-02-2006, 06:42 PM
Wow, good stuff :eek:, thanks brett and jenni. I might as well ask all my other questions...:)

Are there any prerequisites or anything for these tournaments (I don't like getting rejected :lol:)?

Any advice would be helpful on which tournament to join out of the so many - I like slow time controls (25mins+), and I live really close to the city...

About clubs, do they operate internally and not organise for players to play in external "open" tournaments?

How does one get a FIDE rating - by playing in what tournaments?

Do I need to buy equipment? (like clock etc.)

Sorry about the newbieness ;).

Thunderspirit
11-02-2006, 07:48 PM
Wow, good stuff :eek:, thanks brett and jenni. I might as well ask all my other questions...:)

Are there any prerequisites or anything for these tournaments (I don't like getting rejected :lol:)?

Any advice would be helpful on which tournament to join out of the so many - I like slow time controls (25mins+), and I live really close to the city...

About clubs, do they operate internally and not organise for players to play in external "open" tournaments?

How does one get a FIDE rating - by playing in what tournaments?

Do I need to buy equipment? (like clock etc.)

Sorry about the newbieness ;).

Hi Snow,
Welcome to the wonderful world of NSW Chess. The vast majority of events are free for all to play so if you wish to play you can. There is the odd event which is restricted such as the NSW Championship or the Premier Section of Doeberl Cup, but if you have any questions on any particular event we can answer them for you here...

Have fun... Shame about you studying at Sydney Uni... While Sydney Uni has a good club as an UNSW Grad, I pity you for attending Sydney Uni at all...;) :lol: :owned:

snowdrop23
11-02-2006, 08:00 PM
Hi Liberace, thanks for answering my question...


Have fun... Shame about you studying at Sydney Uni... While Sydney Uni has a good club as an UNSW Grad, I pity you for attending Sydney Uni at all...;) :lol: :owned:

I don't get it :uhoh:...tell me what is wrong with Sydney Uni, or studying for that matter ;).

Thunderspirit
11-02-2006, 08:14 PM
Hi Liberace, thanks for answering my question...



I don't get it :uhoh:...tell me what is wrong with Sydney Uni, or studying for that matter ;).

Hi Snow,
I'm just giving it to you because you study at Sydney Uni and I studied at UNSW. There's obviously nothing wrong with Sydney Uni, but as a UNSW Grad I have to tease anyone who goes to Sydney Uni.... It was in the fine print when I enrolled....;)

snowdrop23
11-02-2006, 09:26 PM
I see :hmm:, well...gooood for you. Lol.

This thread is getting off-topic - anyone have any more advice?

I want to start tournaments starting from April. Look like there's a huge choice. Anyone joined any tournaments that are repeating this year and want to share an experience? Anyone joining a future tournament and want to team up :mrgreen:?

Thunderspirit
12-02-2006, 03:32 PM
Hi Snow,
Some more answers to your questions. On buying equipment, you will not need to buy a set/clock to play tournament chess in Oz. Your entry fee covers equipment, if you were in the USA you would need to buy stuff, but your fine here.

On getting a FIDE rating that maybe a little beyond you at this stage. The mininum FIDE rating at the moment is 1600 (which is roughly 1450-1500 ACF) if your FICS rating is 1000, you may need 6-12 mths to get to that strength. (Maybe less, maybe more.... depends how much you play and how much study you do.)

The next FIDE rated open weekender is the Ballarat Open, but that maybe too far to travel. Closer to home Doeberl Premier (in Canberra) is FIDE rated but it is restricted to players 1600+. I'm not speaking for the organisers but I doubt that would let you in as an unrated player.

After this the Queen's Birthday Weekend in June there is a FIDE rated Weekender in Sydney called the Sydney Open. This is probably a good event to play in because anyone can play and June is 4 mths away so you can get some games under your belt.

Take Brett's advice and join a chess club and play as many weekenders as you can. Where are you based in Sydney? I can give you directions to your nearest club...

PHAT
12-02-2006, 05:35 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of NSW Chess. The vast majority of events are free for all to play so if you wish to play you can.


$70 is usual, so how do I qualify for this entry method?

snowdrop23
12-02-2006, 05:48 PM
Hi, thanks for your answers, Liberace. Oh no...more newbie questions ;) :

If the FIDE rating is limited to 1600+, what rating DO you get after you participate in a tournament if its under 1600? And what about the U1600 and U1400 tournaments I have heard about? I might as well mention I just want an official rating that can get me into more tournaments and maybe in the far, far future into the professional circuit...yeah...

The Sydney Open sounds great. I need all the preparation time I can get ;). The Open seems not be in brett's (nswca's) tournament list - got any more info on it?

I live in Stanmore (in Sydney's inner west), which happens to be less than 10mins drive from Usyd. Any quality clubs around would be good...

Thanks :)

Bill Gletsos
12-02-2006, 06:01 PM
$70 is usual, so how do I qualify for this entry method?Liberace wasnt referring to the entry fee.
It is clear he was referring to the fact the events are open to all players with the exception being some events like the top division of the NSW Championship and the Premier division of the Doeberl Cup.

Bill Gletsos
12-02-2006, 06:13 PM
If the FIDE rating is limited to 1600+, what rating DO you get after you participate in a tournament if its under 1600? And what about the U1600 and U1400 tournaments I have heard about? I might as well mention I just want an official rating that can get me into more tournaments and maybe in the far, far future into the professional circuit...yeah...Firstly Liberace should have said FIDE ratings are only 1400+ not 1600+. What this simply means that if an event is FIDE rated and you get a calculated rating higher than 1400 you will get a FIDE rating.

However with the exception of Open divisions or top divisions of some tournaments other tournaments are not normally FIDE rated. As far as I know, no U1600 or U1400 tournaments are FIDE rated.
They are however all ACF rated.

The Sydney Open sounds great. I need all the preparation time I can get ;). The Open seems not be in brett's (nswca's) tournament list - got any more info on it?Actually Liberace means the NSW Open in June not the Sydney Open. There is no such event as the Sydney Open.

Thunderspirit
12-02-2006, 06:19 PM
Hi, thanks for your answers, Liberace. Oh no...more newbie questions ;) :

If the FIDE rating is limited to 1600+, what rating DO you get after you participate in a tournament if its under 1600? And what about the U1600 and U1400 tournaments I have heard about? I might as well mention I just want an official rating that can get me into more tournaments and maybe in the far, far future into the professional circuit...yeah...

The Sydney Open sounds great. I need all the preparation time I can get ;). The Open seems not be in brett's (nswca's) tournament list - got any more info on it?

I live in Stanmore (in Sydney's inner west), which happens to be less than 10mins drive from Usyd. Any quality clubs around would be good...

Thanks :)

Hi Snow,
Newbee questions are fine, you are after a newbee.... ;)

To explain the FIDE rating briefly at the moment the FIDE rating floor is 1600, evenually it will be lowered but for now to get a FIDE rating you will need to perform at 1600+. The 1400-1450 rating which confused you is a rough comparison against Australia's ratings. Our ratings are somewhat lower. To achieve a FIDE rating you will need to play 9 FIDE rated games against FIDE rated players. In these events you need to play at least 3 games against FIDE rated opponents and score at least 1/3 and your performance rating has to be 1600+. An example of this may include playing one player who has a rating of 1800, one of 1900 and one of 2000. If you scored 1.5/3 your performance rating would be 1900 as the average is 1900 and you scored 50%. If you don't score 1/3 it doesn't count or if you perform at 1600 it doesn't count.

My last attempt at a FIDE block saw me score 0.5/5 from an average ratings field of 2007. Not only did I not score 1 pt, I performed at 1300 and so did no good. I wouldn't worry about the exact math behind the ratings at this stage...

Your other question is what club is nearest you. The nearest club to you is Cabterbury chess club which at the moment is based in Lakemba. The club contact on this site is Paul Sike whose handle is PaulS he will give any info you need. In runs on Monday nights from 7:30pm. Canterbury generally attracts 12-18 players all of whom you can learn off. It also the home of former Australian Champion Fred Flatow who is a really nice guy. if your keen to play someone awesome then you may have a chance.

On Tuesday's is St George CC at Carlton. St George is much larger with the club championship attracting 60+ players. The club meets Tuesday nights also at 7:30 at the St George Leagues Club, Prince's Highway. The club champs would be a great event to test how good you are. The events are divisional round robins, so you'll be at the bottom, but you will be able to ease your way into club chess (not loose all your games) (you will win games in this event) and have heaps of fun too. The club contact on the site is Chris Nikolau whose handle is Wise Man.

Both clubs are good and I have played at both. I would suggest you play at both during the year if you can...

Bill Gletsos
12-02-2006, 06:21 PM
To explain the FIDE rating briefly at the moment the FIDE rating floor is 1600, evenually it will be lowered but for now to get a FIDE rating you will need to perform at 1600+.The floor is already at 1400. Just check out the January 2006 FIDE list.

Thunderspirit
12-02-2006, 06:29 PM
The floor is already at 1400. Just check out the January 2006 FIDE list.

Hi Bill,
Thanks for that... Sadly for me I'd still perform under the floor if I tried...;)

ElevatorEscapee
12-02-2006, 06:31 PM
One man's flaw is another man's ceiling. ;)

Libby
12-02-2006, 06:38 PM
Forget about the FIDE rating for now - you're putting the cart before the horse.

You have a rating from FICS. If you start playing at a Club and in some of the weekend tournaments people have mentioned you will get an ACF rating (similar to your FICS one). You will need to play against 9 opponents who already have a rating (which is pretty much everyone at a Club or weekender) and score at least a win or draw somewhere along the line.

The rating lists come out 4 times a year, March being the next one. The more you play the more accurate your rating will become. Check out the current lists and some info about ratings @ http://www.auschess.org.au/ratings/acfrate.htm

FIDE ratings are part of the international system. It costs more to FIDE rate events and certain additional conditions have to be met so not all events are FIDE rated.

Many players want a FIDE rating "just 'cos they want one" and because it's a more exclusive club than the ACF rating. If you get plenty of experience OTB at a Club and at some weekenders you may well end up with a FIDE rating eventually. For some it's more like good luck than good management but for others it's more a reflection on a level of skill and experience in major events.

snowdrop23
12-02-2006, 08:13 PM
Thanks everyone for the advice. I'll have a look at the Canterbury/St George/Syd Uni Clubs first - and then decide whether to turn up at a tournament and get my ass kicked ;).


Many players want a FIDE rating "just 'cos they want one" and because it's a more exclusive club than the ACF rating.

The FIDE rating sounds much cooler once you hear about the grandiose of the FIDE world champions ;).

Garvinator
12-02-2006, 08:48 PM
The FIDE rating sounds much cooler once you hear about the grandiose of the FIDE world champions ;).
and your first fide rating will have about as much significance as some of the paper world champions;)

snowdrop23
12-02-2006, 10:36 PM
and your first fide rating will have about as much significance as some of the paper world champions;)

I don't know about that - I could beat everyone and achieve a rating of 2500 :cool:.







And then I would wake up...

jenni
13-02-2006, 09:25 AM
I don't know about that - I could beat everyone and achieve a rating of 2500 :cool:.


confidence is everything in chess. :lol: (Well its worth a few points anyway..)