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hitman84
11-12-2005, 03:23 PM
Here are two games i won in contrasting styles. Both are unorthodox openings.
Sometimes these Higher rated players drift away from the opening to test the opening knowledge of their opponents.

White-myself ,Black-2303
In the first game i was really lucky to win as i only had 3 min to complete 18 moves.(this was played under the 2 hours 40 moves time control )
I went allout for the opponent king and nailed him just in time(15 seconds left)!

White-myself , Black-2266
The second game i reversed the role wherein i drifted away from the opening as early move no. 2.Qa4
During the game i realised that he had no idea of how to handle the opening.
It was classic positional destruction of his Queen-side!

The third game:So what happens if you tryout such things against GM's Take a look at this game to see what happened to white!
Fiorito,F (2435) - Sorokin,M (2535) [A11]
Buenos Aires op Buenos Aires (6), 1995
After watchin this game i vowed i'd never play 2.Qa4 again!

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nge7 4. Nc3 g6 5. d4 exd4 6. Nxd4 Bg7 7. Be3 a6 8. Be2 00 9. 00 d6 10. f4 f5 11. Bc4+ Kh8 12. Ne6 Bxe6 13. Bxe6 fxe4 14. g4 Ng8 15. Nd5 Nf6 16. c4 Nxd5 17. cxd5 Qe7 18. g5 Nd8 19. f5 gxf5 20. Bxf5 Bxb2 21. Rb1 Be5 22. Qh5 Rg8 23. Kh1 c6 24. g6 cxd5 25. Bg5 Qc7 26. Rg1 Nc6 27. Bh6 Nd4 28. Rbc1 Nc6 29. gxh7 Rxg1+ 30. Rxg1 Ne7 31. Qf7 10
1. c4 c6 2. Qa4 {Here is a nice incident that took place,I played 1.c4 accidently my king fell down and rolled over so i started searchin for my king the guy left to me picked it up and while givin it to me said that i needed to be careful while handling the king i took it with a grin on my face.I had played 2.Qa4 and my opponent had sunk into a deep thought,when suddenly my pal on my left stared at my board and started searcin something,so i asked him what he was doin? he replied i'm searchin for your Queen!I patted him and said hey thats very nice of you and just pushed the clock aside to reveal my queen placed at a4! Hey maybe i dunno how to handle a queen either!!}e5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. d3 Be7 5. Nf3 d6 6. g3 a5 7. Bg2 Na6 8. 00 00 9. a3 Bd7 10. Qc2 c5 11. Bd2 Bc6 12. Rfb1 Nd7 13. Ne1 Bg5 14. Nd5 Bxd2 15. Qxd2 a4 16. b3 axb3 17. Rxb3 Ra7 18. Rab1 h6 19. Nc3 Nc7 20. Nc2 f5 21. Ne3 f4 22. Ned5 Ne6 23. Nb5 Bxb5 24. Rxb5 fxg3 25. hxg3 b6 26. Nxb6 Nd4 27. Nxd7 Nxb5 28. Bd5+ Rf7 29. cxb5 Raxd7 30. b6 Kh7 31. Bxf7 Rxf7 32. b7 Qb8 33. Qb2 h5 34. Qb3 Rf6 35. Qd5 Kh6 36. a4 h4 37. g4 Rf4 38. f3 c4 39. dxc4 g6 40. a5 e4 41. Rb6 exf3 42. exf3 Qh8 43. Qd2 10
1. c4 c6 2. Qa4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. g3 f5 5. Bg2 Nf6 6. d3 00 7. Bd2 d6 8. Nf3 Kh8 9. 00 Be6 10. Rab1 Nbd7 11. Qc2 Bg8 12. b4 e5 13. e4 fxe4 14. Nxe4 d5 15. Nxf6 Qxf6 16. b5 cxb5 17. Rxb5 dxc4 18. dxc4 b6 19. Rd1 Rac8 20. Bg5 Qc6 21. Rb3 Bxc4 22. Rc3 e4 23. Nd2 Bd3 24. Qxd3 Bxc3 25. Nxe4 Ne5 26. Qe3 Bb2 27. Nd6 Qc2 28. Rf1 Nc4 29. Nxc4 Qxc4 30. h4 Bg7 31. Rd1 Qxa2 32. Rd7 Rce8 33. Be7 Rf5 34. Bf6 Rxe3 35. Bxg7+ Kg8 01

Jesse Jager
18-01-2006, 07:37 PM
i think it is stupid for black to sink into deep thought regarding Qa4 it seems to be a resonable move.

Kevin Bonham
18-01-2006, 11:14 PM
One way to stop ...d5, but apart from that, what does it do?

Pretty sure I have seen it before somewhere.

Bereaved
18-01-2006, 11:44 PM
Hello, Everyone,

Some of my earlier unorthodox games, with unorthodox openings

Nother,A (1621) - Macavity (1846) [A01]
Australian championship reserves 2001

1.b3 d5 2.Bb2 c5 3.e3 a6 4.a4 Nc6 5.f4 Bf5 6.Nf3 e6 7.Be2 Nf6 8.0-0 d4 9.Nh4 d3 10.cxd3 Bxd3 11.Nc3 Nb4 12.Bxd3 Qxd3 13.Nf3 Rd8 14.Rf2 Ne4 15.Nxe4 Qxe4 16.Ng5 Qg6 17.Rf3 h6 18.Nh3 Qd3 19.Bc3 Nd5 20.Be5 f6 21.Nf2 Qg6 22.Rg3 Qf7 23.Bb2 Bd6 24.Ne4 Bb8 25.h4 Ba7 26.Rc1 c4 27.d4 cxd3 28.Qxd3 0-0 29.Qe2 Nxf4 30.Qg4 e5 31.Nc5 h5 32.Qf3 Bxc5 33.Rxc5 Nd3 34.Rc2 Ne1 35.Qe2 Nxc2 36.Qxc2 Rd7 37.Qf5 Rfd8 38.Rg6 Rd2 39.Ba3 Ra2 40.Bc5 Rdd2 41.Kh2 Qd5 42.e4 Qxc5 43.Qe6+ Kf8 44.Qf5 Rd1 45.Rxf6+ gxf6 46.Qxf6+ Ke8 47.Qh8+ Kd7 48.Qh7+ Kc8 49.Qh8+ Kc7 0-1


Macavity(1297) - Nother,A (1968) [A00]
Geelong Open 1993

1.e3 Nf6 2.b3 d5 3.Bb2 Bf5 4.c4 c6 5.Nf3 e6 6.d4 Nbd7 7.Bd3 Bg6 8.0-0 Bd6 9.Nc3 a5 10.Rc1 0-0 11.Bxg6 hxg6 12.Qc2 g5 13.e4 dxe4 14.Nxe4 Nxe4 15.Qxe4 Qf6 16.Ne5 Bxe5 17.dxe5 Qh6 18.Ba3 f5 19.Qd4 Rf7 20.Rcd1 Kh7 21.Rd3 g4 22.Rfd1 Rh8 23.Bc1 g5 24.Qe3 Qg7 25.Rd6 Nf8 26.Qxg5 Qxe5 27.Bf4 Qe4 28.R6d4 [28.Rd8 Qxf4 29.Qxf4+-] 28...Qe2 29.R4d2 [29.Rd8 Qxd1+ (29...Qb2 30.Qh6+ Kg8 31.Rxf8+ Rxf8 32.Qxe6+ Rf7 33.Rd8+ Kg7 34.Be5+ Qxe5 35.Qxe5+ Rf6 36.Qe7+ Kg6 37.Rxh8 Rf8 38.Rxf8 f4 39.Rg8+ Kh6 40.Qh4#) 30.Rxd1+-] 29...Qe4 30.Be3 [30.Rd8 Qxf4 31.Qxf4+-] 30...Rg7 31.Qf6 Ng6 32.Rd7 Rhg8 33.R7d6?! f4 34.Qg5? Qf5 35.Qxf5 exf5 36.Bd4 Re7 37.Bc3 Rge8 38.Bxa5 Re2 39.Rd7+ Kh6 40.Rxb7 Rxa2 41.Bc3 Ree2 42.Bd4 Rad2 43.Bg7+ Kg5 44.Rd7 Rxd7 and resigns???[44...Rxd7 45.h4+!? Nxh4 46.Rxd7] 0-1



Macavity - Nother,A [A00]
Winter Interclub 1993

1.e3 g5 2.c4 Bg7 3.Nc3 e6 4.Nge2 Nc6 5.Ng3 Nf6 6.Be2 d5 7.d4 dxc4 8.Bxc4 h5 9.h4 gxh4 10.Rxh4 Ng4 11.Rxh5 Rxh5 12.Nxh5 Qh4 13.Nxg7+ Kf8 14.Qf3 Kxg7 15.g3 Qg5 16.Ne4 Qg6 17.Bd2 f5 18.Nc5 b6 19.Qxc6 bxc5 20.Qxa8 Bd7 21.0-0-0 Nxf2 22.Bc3 Nxd1 23.Kxd1 Kf7 24.Qf3 Ke7 25.d5 e5 26.Bxe5 f4 27.Qxf4 Ba4+ 28.Bb3 Qd3+ 29.Ke1 Bxb3 30.axb3 Qxd5 31.Qf6+ Ke8 32.Qg6+ Kd7 33.Qf5+ Kc6 34.e4 Qxb3 35.g4 Qe3+ 36.Kf1 Qd3+ 37.Kg2 Qe2+ 38.Kh3 Qe3+ 39.Kh4 Qe1+ 40.Kh5 Kb7 41.g5 Qd1+ 42.Kg6 Qd8 43.Qf7 Ka6 44.Qf6+ Qxf6+ 45.gxf6 c6 46.f7 Kb5 47.f8Q a5 48.Qf1+ Kb6 49.Qc4 a4 50.Bd6 a3 51.Qxc5+ Kb7 52.bxa3 Ka6 53.Qxc6+ Ka7 54.Qb5 Ka8 55.Qa6# 1-0



Macavity - Nother,A [A00]
Casual, 1992

1.g3 e5 2.Nf3 e4 3.Nd4 c5 4.Nb3 d5 5.Bg2 Nc6 6.d3 Nf6 7.Nc3 exd3 8.cxd3 Be6 9.0-0 Be7 10.d4 c4 11.Nc5 Bxc5 12.dxc5 0-0 13.Bf4 a6 14.Bd6 Re8 15.e4 dxe4 16.Nxe4 Bf5 17.Nxf6+ Qxf6 18.Qd5 Bd3 19.Rad1 Bxf1 20.Bxf1 Ne5 21.Qxb7 Nd3 22.Bxd3 cxd3 23.Rxd3 Re1+ 24.Kg2 Rae8 25.Rf3 Qg6 26.Qd5 R1e6 27.b4 Qe4 28.Qxe4 Rxe4 29.a3 Rd4 30.Rb3 f6 31.Bf4 g5 32.Be3 Rc4 33.a4 Rc2 34.b5 axb5 35.axb5 Kf7 36.b6 Rb8 37.b7 Ke7 38.c6 Rxc6 39.Ba7 Rxb7 40.Rxb7+ 1-0



Nother, A (2226) - Macavity (1885) [A01]
MCC 2002

1.b3 e5 2.Bb2 Nc6 3.c4 Nf6 4.Nf3 d6 5.Nc3 Bg4 6.h3 Bxf3 7.gxf3 g6 8.f4 Nh5 9.fxe5 dxe5 10.Nd5 Bc5 11.e3 0-0 12.Be2 Nf6 13.Bf3 Nxd5 14.cxd5 Nb4 15.Qb1 Re8 16.Qe4 b5 17.Rg1 Kf8 18.Rc1 f5 19.Qb1 e4 20.Be2 Qxd5 21.Bxb5 Bxe3 22.fxe3 Qxb5 23.Ba3 c5 24.Bxb4 Qxb4 25.Qb2 Kf7 26.h4 Rac8 27.Rc4 Qb8 28.Ra4 Re7 29.Ra6 Re6 30.Qa3 Qh2 31.Rxa7+ Kg8 32.Rf1 Qxh4+ 33.Kd1 Qg4+ 34.Kc1 c4 35.Qb2 c3 36.dxc3 Qh3 37.Re1 Qg3 38.Qe2 Rxc3+ 39.Kb1 Rd6 40.Rd1 Rdd3 41.Ra8+ Kf7 42.Ra7+ Kf6 43.Ra6+ Kg5 44.Rf1 Rxe3 45.Qd2 Rcd3 46.Qc1 Rc3 47.Qd1 Red3 48.Qe2 e3 49.Rf3 Qg1+ 50.Rf1 Qg4 51.Re1 Qxe2 52.Rxe2 Rd2 53.Re1 e2 54.Rg1+ Kf4 0-1


Wish we still had the pgn viewer, but oh well,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

PS will look for some more and post later

Kevin Bonham
19-01-2006, 12:37 AM
I also went through a 1.e3 phase for a while, mainly playing it against higher-rated players who I was content to draw with. Every now and then I would win by mistake.

Bonham (c. 1490) - Atkinson (c. 1670) Sandy Bay Club Champs 1993

1.e3 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 d6 4.Be2 Nc6 5.Nf3 e5 6.d5 Nce7 7.e4 Nh6 8.h3 f6 9.Be3 0-0 10.Qd2 Nf7 11.0-0-0 c5 12.dxc6 bxc6 13.Bc4 d5 14.exd5 Nf5 15.dxc6 Qa5 16.Bxf7+ Kxf7 17.Qd5+ Qxd5 18.Nxd5 Nxe3 19.fxe3 Bh6 20.g4 Be6 21.g5 Rad8 22.Nxf6 Bxg5 23.Nxg5+ Kxf6 24.Nxh7+ 1-0

I repeated the e3 experiment against the same opponent two years later feeling that he might be suitably afraid of it after the previous game, but I hung a piece for two pawns to an elementary piece-swap/pawn-push/pawn-fork sequence starting on move 11 and lost.

These days I feel that unorthodox openings are like disposable razors - use them once and then throw them away.

Lucena
19-01-2006, 01:34 AM
One way to stop ...d5, but apart from that, what does it do?

Pretty sure I have seen it before somewhere.

It's an "improved" version of 1. e4 c5 2.c3 Qa5, isn't it?

Trent Parker
19-01-2006, 08:16 AM
[QUOTE=Kevin Bonham]
Bonham (c. 1490) - Atkinson (c. 1670) Sandy Bay Club Champs 1993
[QUOTE]

What?? You were once around my strength? There is hope for me yet :D

Spiny Norman
19-01-2006, 08:25 AM
Bonham (c. 1490) - Atkinson (c. 1670) Sandy Bay Club Champs 1993What?? You were once around my strength? There is hope for me yet :D
Wonder how old he was then? I'm guessing late teens ...

Trent Parker
19-01-2006, 09:20 AM
Yeah i know....

I was only having a joke......

Kevin Bonham
19-01-2006, 12:17 PM
Wonder how old he was then? I'm guessing late teens ...

21.

My first rating at age 15 was 1035. It took me six years to get up to the high 1400s. Then there was a period of about four years in which few if any Tassie games were rated. When this was corrected by the crude but effective rating of four years' backlog (17 tournaments) in a single ratings period I jumped to 1728 in 1997 - which, allowing for subsequent uplifts is around about where I am now.

I think macavity having been 1297 in 1993 and now being strong enough to score 5/11 in the Australian Championship is rather more remarkable.

Trent Parker
20-01-2006, 02:58 AM
Hey Talking about unusual openings Danny Bisson played the 1.b3 2.e3 system against me in the Australian Minor this year. I played a Q sac that forced a draw..... except he didn't want the draw he wanted to win..... so didn't accept the queen.... and lost! :D

Bisson - Parker 2006 Minor round 7
1.e3 e5 2.b3 d5 3.Bb2 Bd6 4.Nc3 c6 5.Be2 Nf6 6.Nf3 O-O 7.O-O Bg4 8.Ne1 Be6 9.Rc1 Nbd7 10.d3 Qe7 11.Nb1 e4 12.c4 Ne5 13.c5 Bc7 14.dxe4 dxe4 15.Nd2 Rad8 16.Qc2 Bd5 17.Nc4 Nfg4 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qc3 Qf6 20.g3 Qh6 21.Ng2 Nf3+ 22.Bxf3 exf3 23.Nh4 f5 24.Rcd1 Rf6 25.Bc1 Qh5 26.e4 Qxh4 27.Qxf3 Bxe4 28.Rxd8+ Bxd8

Hey Pax Are you able to fix PGN at this point in time? The above is what the website says when i'm sure it is supposed to be 25...Qxh4 26.e4 Qh3 27.Qxf3 Bxe4 28.Rxd8+ Bxd8 Resigns

Bereaved
25-01-2006, 01:32 PM
21.

My first rating at age 15 was 1035. It took me six years to get up to the high 1400s. Then there was a period of about four years in which few if any Tassie games were rated. When this was corrected by the crude but effective rating of four years' backlog (17 tournaments) in a single ratings period I jumped to 1728 in 1997 - which, allowing for subsequent uplifts is around about where I am now.

I think macavity having been 1297 in 1993 and now being strong enough to score 5/11 in the Australian Championship is rather more remarkable.


That is kind of you to say so, Kevin, but I was only just starting to play at the point when I was 1297, Still I did also beat a 1900+ player in that event, so it was quite a good patch of play for me I guess.

It was not until mid way through 1996 that I went above 1500 though; I have a feeling that I was about 1432 when I played in the 1996 MCC Under 1600, and won with 7/7, and some other results at the time meant that I went to I think 1575 on the next list, which was quite exciting for me.

I have recently started on Chess For Zebras by Jonathon Rowson, and it has sections about improving as an adult. His earlier work, The Seven Deadly Chess Sins, is also excellent and provides many good additions to a players thought framework. I would recommend them to anyone trying to improve ( hint, hint Trent!!:D :D )

These unorthodox openings we have been discussing seem to illustrate the fact that so long as one is comfortable with a position that the achieving of an advantage may not be as crucial a factor.

Anyway, thank you once again Kevin for your kind words,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

PS My first rating was 936 p.

Alan Shore
28-01-2006, 05:39 PM
Talking of increases, I was just recently looking at the 1999 QLD Juniors (8 rounds):

Only a few of the 32 participants really went on to better chess:


Name OldRat Score NewRat Change

1. Zhao, Zong-Yuan 1876 8 2475 +599
2. Sonter, Matthew 1648 6 2013 +365
3. Humphrey, Jonathon 1385 5.5 2189 +804
4. Sampson, Dion 1179 5.5 1651 +472
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7. Davidovici, Michael 1299 5 1781 +482
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25. Karita, Sean 778 3 1808 +1030
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OldRat at June 1999, NewRat at December 2005 (includes +220 rating uplift)

What's worse is, both Michael and I had much higher ratings some 3 years ago! :doh:

Nutter
19-07-2006, 07:56 PM
Is it true that Fischer once played 1.f3 ... 2.Kf2

qpawn
20-07-2006, 04:10 PM
Not unless Fischer was playing a simul against a gorilla tribe who needed Fischer to be given a handicap.