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Phil Bourke
09-12-2005, 12:29 PM
The game Smyslov v Polugaevsky, Moscow 1961, 28th Russian Ch.
Was Black's 15th move ...Rd8 or ...Rc8?
I downloaded it from Chessbase.com which suggests it was ...Rd8, yet in Art of the Middlegame-How to defend difficult positions, they have it as ...Rc8 without giving the moves leading up to the position they analyse.
No it is only a minor detail, but it changes the emphasis of a lot of their subsequent analysis.
Many thanks for any help.

Dozy
14-12-2005, 03:24 PM
The game Smyslov v Polugaevsky, Moscow 1961, 28th Russian Ch.
Was Black's 15th move ...Rd8 or ...Rc8?
I downloaded it from Chessbase.com which suggests it was ...Rd8, yet in Art of the Middlegame-How to defend difficult positions, they have it as ...Rc8 without giving the moves leading up to the position they analyse.
No it is only a minor detail, but it changes the emphasis of a lot of their subsequent analysis.
Many thanks for any help.

You can find a copy of the game at this site: http://www.ruschess.com/Rusbase/USSR/28.php where the move is given as 15...Rd8

Phil Bourke
14-12-2005, 04:54 PM
Thanks for that Dozy.

Rincewind
14-12-2005, 05:32 PM
My database also has 15...Rd8. Here is the whole game from there...

[Event "ch28"]
[Site "Moscow RUS"]
[Date "1961.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Smyslov, Vassily V"]
[Black "Polugaevsky, Lev A"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E14"]
[EventDate "1961.??.??"]
[PlyCount "57"]
[Source "www.ChessliB.no"]
[SourceDate "2003.02.24"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.e3 Bb7 5.Bd3 d5 6.O-O Nbd7 7.Nc3 Be7 8.Qe2 O-O
9.b3 Ne4 10.Bb2 Ndf6 11.Na4 c5 12.Ne5 dxc4 13.bxc4 Qe8 14.Bc2 cxd4 15.exd4
Rd8 16.f3 Nd6 17.Nc3 Ba6 18.Bd3 Nd7 19.f4 Nxe5 20.fxe5 Nxc4 21.Ne4 Qd7 22.
Nf6+ Bxf6 23.exf6 Nxb2 24.Bxh7+ Kh8 25.Qg4 gxf6 26.Rf4 f5 27.Bxf5 exf5 28.
Rxf5 Bd3 29.Qh5+ 1/2-1/2

Ian Rout
14-12-2005, 05:53 PM
I think it has to be ...Rc8 otherwise 20...Nxc4 loses a piece.

Or more precisely my little German friend thinks that.

Phil Bourke
14-12-2005, 06:33 PM
That German friend is right :)
The game is quoted in the book, Art of the Middlegame, but they have the Rook on c8 which allows in their analysis, ...Qd8. Doesn't change their analysis if you play it according to their starting point, but does affect the game from the immediate perspective of which is the best move for White.

Rincewind
14-12-2005, 07:01 PM
I agree the only move that makes sense for the rest of the moves in 15...Rc8. Also 21...Qd7 looks suspect. If that is right then black and white make some horrible misses towards the end where 27...exf5 allows a forced checkmate. I suspect the correct move is 21...Qd8. So with those amendments we have...


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.e3 Bb7 5.Bd3 d5 6.O-O Nbd7 7.Nc3 Be7 8.Qe2 O-O 9.b3 Ne4 10.Bb2 Ndf6 11.Na4 c5 12.Ne5 dxc4 13.bxc4 Qe8 14.Bc2 cxd4 15.exd4 Rc8 16.f3 Nd6 17.Nc3 Ba6 18.Bd3 Nd7 19.f4 Nxe5 20.fxe5 Nxc4 21.Ne4 Qd8 22. Nf6+ Bxf6 23.exf6 Nxb2 24.Bxh7+ Kh8 25.Qg4 gxf6 26.Rf4 f5 27.Bxf5 exf5 28. Rxf5 Bd3 29.Qh5+ 1/2-1/2


Any other suggestions?