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jenni
09-10-2005, 08:58 PM
George Xie is Australia's rep in this, before going on to the World Juniors (Under 20)

He had his first win yesterday.

Round 1 George 0 - 1 GM R B Ramesh
ROund 2 IM Morteza Mahjoob 1 - 0 George
Round 3 George 1 - 0 Rishipal Singh (2299)

http://www.asianchess2005.com/

arosar
10-10-2005, 09:18 PM
Xie beats Laxman.

[Event "Asian Chess Championship 2005 Hyderabad"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.10.09"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Laxman, RR."]
[Black "Xie George, Wendie"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B30"]
[WhiteElo "2404"]
[BlackElo "2340"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[EventDate "2005.05.27"]
[SourceDate "2005.11.17"]

1. Nf3 c5 2. e4 Nc6 3. Nc3 e6 4. Bb5 Nd4 5. O-O a6 6. Bd3 Ne7 7. Nxd4 cxd4 8. Ne2 d5 9. e5 Nc6 10. f4 Bc5 11. a3 O-O 12. b4 Bb6 13. Ng3 Qh4 14. Nh5 f6 15. exf6 g6 16. Ng3 Rxf6 17. Ne2 g5 18. g3 Qh5 19. fxg5 Rxf1+ 20. Qxf1 e5 21. Bb2 Bg4 22. Qg2 Bxe2 23. Qxd5+ Kh8 24. Qd7 Rf8 25. Rc1 Rf7 26. Bxe2 Qxe2 27. Qc8+ Kg7 28. d3 Bd8 0-1

AR

Careth
10-10-2005, 09:25 PM
Isnt there a Laxman on most chess servers- ICC and PlayChess?

arosar
10-10-2005, 09:27 PM
Isnt there a Laxman on most chess servers- ICC and PlayChess?

Yes. That is him on ICC.

AR

four four two
10-10-2005, 11:44 PM
Laxman is a fairly common indian surname. :whistle:

arosar
11-10-2005, 11:50 PM
[Event "Asian Individual Chess 2005 Hyderabad"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.10.10"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Ravi, Lanka"]
[Black "Xie George, Wendi"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D02"]
[WhiteElo "2419"]
[BlackElo "2340"]
[PlyCount "87"]
[EventDate "2005.10.10"]
[SourceDate "2005.11.18"]

1. d4 Nc6 2. g3 d5 3. Bg2 Bf5 4. Nf3 Nb4 5. Na3 e6 6. O-O Be7 7. Ne5 c6 8. c3 Na6 9. e4 dxe4 10. Qh5 Bg6 11. Nxg6 fxg6 12. Qh3 Qd5 13. Nc2 Nf6 14. Ne3 Qd7 15. Ng4 O-O 16. Ne5 Qc8 17. Bg5 Bd6 18. Rae1 c5 19. Nc4 Be7 20. Nd2 cxd4 21. cxd4 h6 22. Bxf6 Bxf6 23. Bxe4 Bxd4 24. Qg4 Nc5 25. Bb1 Qd7 26. Nc4 Rf6 27. Bxg6 Raf8 28. Re2 Qd5 29. b3 Nd7 30. Be4 Qc5 31. Kg2 b5 32. Nd2 Ne5 33. Qh5 Bxf2 34. Bb7 Qc7 35. Be4 g6 36. Bxg6 Nxg6 37. Ne4 Qc6 38. Kh3 Nf4+ 39. gxf4 Rxf4 40. Qg6+ Kh8 41. Qxh6+ Kg8 42. Qg6+ Kh8 43. Qh5+ Kg7 44. Rg1+ 1-0

Sutek
13-10-2005, 01:39 PM
George won in round 6 with this nice game.

Xie, George (2340) - Sengupta, Deep (2400) [D01]
Asian Chess Championship 2005 Hyderabad (6), 12.10.2005

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Bg5 g6 4.Qd2 h6 5.Bf4 c6 6.f3 Bg7 7.e4 dxe4 8.fxe4 g5 9.Bg3 Nh5 10.Bf2 e5 11.d5 f5 12.0-0-0 Nf6 13.exf5 cxd5 14.Bc5 Nc6 15.Nf3 Bxf5 16.Qe1 e4 17.Bb5 a6 18.Ba4 b5 19.Bb3 Ne7 20.Nd4 Bd7 21.Rf1 Rc8 22.Ba3 Rxc3 23.Qxc3 0-0 24.Bd6 Re8 25.Be5 Ng6 26.Nc6 Nxe5 27.Nxd8 Nfg4 28.Bxd5+ Kh8 29.Qc7 e3 30.Nf7+ Nxf7 31.Rxf7 e2 32.Re1 1-0

and yes Deep Sengupta is a IM from India and not a computer program as some might think :)

four four two
13-10-2005, 03:14 PM
Anything above 50% against this field would be a good result ,hope George keeps up his winning ways for the last rounds. ;)

Kevin Bonham
13-10-2005, 04:42 PM
George beats an IM with the Veresov! :clap: :clap: Rather weird line too. 4...h6 is not even mentioned in NCO. chessbase has nothing with 7...dxe4; I think after seeing the game that there might be a reason for that.

arosar
14-10-2005, 02:54 PM
Lost in 7th.

[Event "Asian Chess Championship 2005 Hyderabad"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.10.13"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Annaberdiev, Meilis"]
[Black "Xie George Wendi"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A46"]
[WhiteElo "2431"]
[BlackElo "2340"]
[PlyCount "55"]
[EventDate "2005.10.13"]
[SourceDate "2005.11.21"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. Bg5 c5 4. e3 h6 5. Bh4 cxd4 6. exd4 Be7 7. Nbd2 O-O 8. Bd3 b6 9. Qe2 Nc6 10. Bxf6 Bxf6 11. c3 Bb7 12. Ne4 Be7 13. Ng3 Rc8 14. O-O Re8 15. Rfe1 Bf8 16. Rad1 d6 17. h4 Nb8 18. h5 Qf6 19. Nh2 Qh4 20. Bc2 Nd7 21. Ng4 f5 22. Ba4 Re7 23. Bxd7 Rxd7 24. Qxe6+ Rf7 25. Nxf5 Qg5 26. Ng3 Rd8 27. Ne4 Qb5 28. Qg6 1-0

arosar
15-10-2005, 11:36 AM
Great win against a strong 2411 player. Xie now on 4/8. Next opponent is GM Taleb of UAE.

[Event "Asian Chess Championship 2005 Hyderabad"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.10.14"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Xie George Wendi"]
[Black "Das, Arghyadip"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B22"]
[WhiteElo "2340"]
[BlackElo "2411"]
[PlyCount "91"]
[EventDate "2005.10.13"]
[SourceDate "2005.10.14"]

1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nf3 e6 6. cxd4 d6 7. Nc3 Nxc3 8. bxc3 Qc7 9. Bd2 Nd7 10. exd6 Bxd6 11. a4 O-O 12. Bd3 b6 13. a5 Bb7 14. O-O Rad8 15. axb6 axb6 16. h3 e5 17. Re1 Rfe8 18. Ng5 Nf6 19. Ra7 Qb8 20. Qa1 exd4 21. Bc4 Rxe1+ 22. Bxe1 Rd7 23. g3 Qe8 24. Bb5 h6 25. Rxb7 hxg5 26. cxd4 Qc8 27. Rxb6 Rd8 28. Bf1 Qf5 29. Rb5 Qe6 30. Rxg5 Ne4 31. d5 Qh6 32. Rf5 Rc8 33. Qa7 Rc7 34. Qa4 Re7 35. Bb4 Qg6 36. g4 Bxb4 37. Qa8+ Kh7 38. Rh5+ Qxh5 39. gxh5 f5 40. Bd3 Nd6 41. Kg2 Kh6 42. Qh8+ Kg5 43. Qh7 Kf4 44. h6 Bc3 45. Qg6 Ne4 46. h7 1-0

bunta
15-10-2005, 11:54 AM
Xie must be making some progress with his chess, as he studies very hard!

Vlad
15-10-2005, 02:47 PM
George is doing much better by white rather than by black against 2400+ field. I guess it is an argumet that Canterbury was in fact extremely advantaged by playing games away because George was playing white when the team was away.

Kerry Stead
15-10-2005, 03:36 PM
George is doing much better by white rather than by black against 2400+ field. I guess it is an argumet that Canterbury was in fact extremely advantaged by playing games away because George was playing white when the team was away.
The Grade Matches have well and truly finished ... get over it!

4/8 is a great result, particularly considering that apart from round 3, all George's opponents have been 2400+!
Lets hope he can keep this form up fot the World Juniors!

Vlad
15-10-2005, 07:35 PM
The Grade Matches have well and truly finished ... get over it!

4/8 is a great result, particularly considering that apart from round 3, all George's opponents have been 2400+!
Lets hope he can keep this form up fot the World Juniors!

Are you saying this as a council member or just as an individual?:)

Kerry Stead
15-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Are you saying this as a council member or just as an individual?:)
I'm saying this as a statement of fact ... they have been completed, prizes presented, ie: finished.
I'm not on council anymore either, so a bit tough to say things as a council member.

arosar
16-10-2005, 10:29 AM
George records a win against Grandmaster Taleb of the UAE. HE finishes the event on 5/9.

But take a look at the game more closely. I don't get 22...Nf7.


[Event "Asian Chess Championship 2005 Hyderabad"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.10.15"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Xie George Wendi"]
[Black "Moussa, Taleb"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B23"]
[WhiteElo "2340"]
[BlackElo "2510"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[EventDate "2005.06.01"]
[SourceDate "2005.10.14"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Bb5 g6 4. Bxc6 bxc6 5. d3 Bg7 6. f4 d6 7. Nf3 Nh6 8. O-O Rb8 9. Qe1 O-O 10. b3 f6 11. Bd2 e5 12. Rd1 Nf7 13. Na4 exf4 14. Bxf4 Ne5 15. Kh1 Rb7 16. Qg3 Rbf7 17. Rde1 Qa5 18. c3 Re8 19. Nd2 Ba6 20. Re3 Rd7 21. d4 cxd4 22. cxd4 Nf7 23. Rc3 Bb5 24. Nc4 Qd8 25. Nd2 Rde7 26. h3 g5 27. Be3 Qa5 28. Rfc1 h6 29. Bg1 d5 30. exd5 Bxa4 31. d6 Nxd6 32. Qxd6 Bb5 33. a4 Ba6 34. Nc4 Qf5 35. Qxc6 Bxc4 36. Qxc4+ Kh8 37. Qd3 Qd7 38. d5 f5 39. d6 Re6 40. Rc7 Qxd6 41. Qxd6 Rxd6 42. Rxa7 Rd2 43. a5 Bb2 44. Rb1 Red8 45. a6 Bd4 46. Bxd4+ R2xd4 47. Rb7 g4 48. a7 g3 49. Rb8 Kg7 50. Rxd8 Rxd8 1-0

Dozy
16-10-2005, 10:39 AM
George records a win against Grandmaster Taleb of the UAE. HE finishes the event on 5/9.

But take a look at the game more closely. I don't get 22...Nf7.


[Event "Asian Chess Championship 2005 Hyderabad"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.10.15"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Xie George Wendi"]
[Black "Moussa, Taleb"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B23"]
[WhiteElo "2340"]
[BlackElo "2510"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[EventDate "2005.06.01"]
[SourceDate "2005.10.14"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Bb5 g6 4. Bxc6 bxc6 5. d3 Bg7 6. f4 d6 7. Nf3 Nh6 8. O-O Rb8 9. Qe1 O-O 10. b3 f6 11. Bd2 e5 12. Rd1 Nf7 13. Na4 exf4 14. Bxf4 Ne5 15. Kh1 Rb7 16. Qg3 Rbf7 17. Rde1 Qa5 18. c3 Re8 19. Nd2 Ba6 20. Re3 Rd7 21. d4 cxd4 22. cxd4 Nf7 23. Rc3 Bb5 24. Nc4 Qd8 25. Nd2 Rde7 26. h3 g5 27. Be3 Qa5 28. Rfc1 h6 29. Bg1 d5 30. exd5 Bxa4 31. d6 Nxd6 32. Qxd6 Bb5 33. a4 Ba6 34. Nc4 Qf5 35. Qxc6 Bxc4 36. Qxc4+ Kh8 37. Qd3 Qd7 38. d5 f5 39. d6 Re6 40. Rc7 Qxd6 41. Qxd6 Rxd6 42. Rxa7 Rd2 43. a5 Bb2 44. Rb1 Red8 45. a6 Bd4 46. Bxd4+ R2xd4 47. Rb7 g4 48. a7 g3 49. Rb8 Kg7 50. Rxd8 Rxd8 1-0After the knight retreats black is still threatening to win the exchange as well as QxN. If he tries to save both the bishop has no escape square.

Vlad
16-10-2005, 11:36 AM
George records a win against Grandmaster Taleb of the UAE. HE finishes the event on 5/9.

But take a look at the game more closely. I don't get 22...Nf7.




It must be a recording error.

DoroPhil
16-10-2005, 12:17 PM
Well done! Official site has our boy George performing at over 2450! Did he get an IM norm as well?

arosar
16-10-2005, 01:38 PM
Check out the pic in round 6 report.

http://www.asianchess2005.com/hyd/ac06.htm

AR

Vlad
16-10-2005, 02:17 PM
George has scored 4/5 playing white with average rating of his opponents 2421. This makes him to perform by white 2600+.

He scored 1/4 playing black with average rating of his opponents 2416. This makes him to perform by black about 2200.

He seems to be extremely imbalanced. Clearly, the best way for him to improve his rating is to play in very strong competitions. In this case loosing would not matter much while winning will be rewarded a lot.

It also indicates that it makes sense for him to play a large number of competitions, on average in 50 % of them he will have 5 whites and 4 blacks (like what has happened this time). That will allow him to get his performance rating above 2450 and score IM norms. My understanding is he did score his first IM norm this time.

four four two
16-10-2005, 02:32 PM
Well all players between 2300-2600 need to play alot of competitions Drug :rolleyes: ,not that George is going to get that much FIDE action in Australia. :(

Arosar,do you think we need a few "armed" guards in Brisbane to keep the likes of Johnny Bolens quiet? :lol: It sure would reduce arbiter disputes. ;)

jenni
16-10-2005, 05:07 PM
My understanding is he did score his first IM norm this time.

Well done George. :clap: :clap:

Maybe another one at the World Juniors? (Now that is pressure ;) )

bunta
16-10-2005, 05:20 PM
George has scored 4/5 playing white with average rating of his opponents 2421. This makes him to perform by white 2600+.

He scored 1/4 playing black with average rating of his opponents 2416. This makes him to perform by black about 2200.

He seems to be extremely imbalanced. Clearly, the best way for him to improve his rating is to play in very strong competitions. In this case loosing would not matter much while winning will be rewarded a lot.

It also indicates that it makes sense for him to play a large number of competitions, on average in 50 % of them he will have 5 whites and 4 blacks (like what has happened this time). That will allow him to get his performance rating above 2450 and score IM norms. My understanding is he did score his first IM norm this time.

wow very impressive by george, i have deep respect for him as a player and as a person

Kevin Bonham
16-10-2005, 06:19 PM
Excellent result. :clap: :clap: I can't work out what's going on in that game with the Ba6 being able to take the Rf1 a few times either.

pax
16-10-2005, 08:37 PM
Interestingly, nobody without an IM (or GM) title finished above George (apart from Wang Hao, who is GM elect).

antichrist
16-10-2005, 11:15 PM
wow very impressive by george, i have deep respect for him as a player and as a person

But don't mention the war. And why isn't RW cheering him on, so selective for some reason that guy.

paulb
17-10-2005, 12:52 AM
wow very impressive by george, i have deep respect for him as a player and as a person
Me too. He's a gentleman, and a first-rate player. Hats off!

Rincewind
17-10-2005, 07:29 AM
But don't mention the war. And why isn't RW cheering him on, so selective for some reason that guy.

It's a great performance by George and he really is a nice guy too. I never really met him but sort of half met him at ANU Open this year and he made a very good impression.

Well done George. :clap:

Sutek
17-10-2005, 10:10 AM
George's performance of 5/9 against a field of 2419 is an IM norm but can someone tell why the FIDE calculator says his performance is 2432?

Is it just wrong?
http://www.fide.com/ratings/calculator_rp.phtml

Perhaps Bill or the new FIDE ratings officer Keg could answer this one?

Regards
Sutek

pax
17-10-2005, 10:37 AM
George's performance of 5/9 against a field of 2419 is an IM norm but can someone tell why the FIDE calculator says his performance is 2432?

Is it just wrong?
http://www.fide.com/ratings/calculator_rp.phtml

Perhaps Bill or the new FIDE ratings officer Keg could answer this one?

Regards
Sutek

The FIDE performance calculator is hopeless. It's so full of bugs that I wouldn't believe anything it says (when Topalov had about 6.5/7 in San Luis, the FIDE calculator gave him a PR of only about 2850).

I use the CERN Chess club calculator for performance ratings.
http://chess.cern.ch/ratings/elocalc.en.shtml

Vlad
17-10-2005, 08:38 PM
George's performance of 5/9 against a field of 2419 is an IM norm but can someone tell why the FIDE calculator says his performance is 2432?

Is it just wrong?
http://www.fide.com/ratings/calculator_rp.phtml

Perhaps Bill or the new FIDE ratings officer Keg could answer this one?

Regards
Sutek

If you have read carefully on the previous page you would realize that this calculator is used only when a new rating is calculated for somebody who currently has no rating. For newcomers the performance rating is relatively close to average rating of opponents.

For people who already have rating you can calculate the change in rating but you can't calculate the performance (at least using FIDE webpage).

Sutek
17-10-2005, 09:46 PM
If you have read carefully on the previous page you would realize that this calculator is used only when a new rating is calculated for somebody who currently has no rating. For newcomers the performance rating is relatively close to average rating of opponents.

For people who already have rating you can calculate the change in rating but you can't calculate the performance (at least using FIDE webpage).

I agree this is the case but it's not made that clear on the FIDE site.
http://www.fide.com/ratings/calculators.phtml

Anyway it's a good thing it's wrong as 2432 would not be a IM norm.

Regards
Sutek

Bill Gletsos
18-10-2005, 12:12 AM
I agree this is the case but it's not made that clear on the FIDE site.
http://www.fide.com/ratings/calculators.phtml

Anyway it's a good thing it's wrong as 2432 would not be a IM norm.

Regards
SutekAs you noted the average rating of his opponents is 2419.
He scored 5/9 which equals a percentage of 56% = a difference of 43 points from the table in the FIDE Handbook.
Hence his performance is 2419+43 = 2462.

His true performance rating is 2459. That is the rating at which his expected score equals his actual score.

Sutek
18-10-2005, 03:07 PM
George records a win against Grandmaster Taleb of the UAE. HE finishes the event on 5/9.

But take a look at the game more closely. I don't get 22...Nf7.


It must be a recording error.

My guess is that George played 17.Rfe1 and not 17.Rde1 as recorded on the website and PGN.

With this move order the knight on d2 is still protected hence no Qxd2 variation and of course the other rook is not hanging to Bxf1 a few moves later.

Regards
Sutek

Sutek
19-10-2005, 09:58 AM
Here is what I believe to be the correct score of George's last round win against GM Moussa.

George Xie (FM 2340) - Taleb Moussa (GM 2510)
1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Bb5 g6 4. Bxc6 bxc6 5. d3 Bg7 6. f4 d6 7. Nf3 Nh6 8. O-O Rb8 9. Qe1 O-O 10. b3 f6 11. Bd2 e5 12. Rd1 Nf7 13. Na4 exf4 14. Bxf4 Ne5 15. Kh1 Rb7 16. Qg3 Rbf7 17. Rfe1 Qa5 18. c3 Re8 19. Nd2 Ba6 20. Re3 Rd7 21. d4 cxd4 22. cxd4 Nf7 23. Rc3 Bb5 24. Nc4 Qd8 25. Nd2 Rde7 26. h3 g5 27. Be3 Qa5 28. Rdc1 h6 29. Bg1 d5 30. exd5 Bxa4 31. d6 Nxd6 32. Qxd6 Bb5 33. a4 Ba6 34.Nc4 Qf5 35. Qxc6 Bxc4 36. Qxc4+ Kh8 37. Qd3 Qd7 38. d5 f5 39. d6 Re6 40. Rc7 Qxd6 41. Qxd6 Rxd6 42. Rxa7 Rd2 43. a5 Bb2 44. Rb1 Red8 45. a6 Bd4 46. Bxd4+ R2xd4 47. Rb7 g4 48. a7 g3 49. Rb8 Kg7 50. Rxd8 Rxd8 1-0


Regards
Sutek

antichrist
19-10-2005, 12:22 PM
Fantastic for George, doing it for Aussie.

The_Wise_Man
24-10-2005, 12:05 AM
Can someone help me understand the double norm situation that Ian Rogers mentioned today in his article in the Sydney Sun-Herald in relation to George Xie's performance in this tournament?

I am unfamiliar with someone getting two norms for one result, so any further details would be appreciated...

Wise

Bill Gletsos
24-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Can someone help me understand the double norm situation that Ian Rogers mentioned today in his article in the Sydney Sun-Herald in relation to George Xie's performance in this tournament?

I am unfamiliar with someone getting two norms for one result, so any further details would be appreciated...

WiseTo get an IM or GM title you need two or more norms covering at least 27 games. You also need to get a published rating of at least 2400.
Most events are not long enough to allow anyone to meet this requirement in 2 events.

However in a Continental championship (or Olympiad for that matter) 9 or more games at a 2450+ performance is equal to a 20 game IM norm (2600+ for GM norm).

Therefore George only needs to get a norm in one other event and he will have the two norms and the 27 games or greater requirement for the titile.
All he then needs is to get his rating up to 2400.

four four two
24-10-2005, 08:04 AM
Isnt it 3 norms with 30 games and 2400 fide rating/win zonal/win continental title for australian players to get IM title?The reason I ask this is because I think there are a couple of australian players with 2 norms at the moment. :hmm:

pax
24-10-2005, 09:14 AM
1.50a Two or more norms in events covering at least 27 games
http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=B0101

Because the game requirement is 27, this almost always means three norms are required (except in the 'double norm' cases).