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Garvinator
10-09-2005, 09:37 PM
For everyone's :uhoh: viewing interest. A big case of oh so close, but yet so far :( Event: NVDG Classic
Site: ?
Date: 2005.09.10
Round: 1.1
White: Gray, Garvin
Black: Solomon, Stephen
Result: 0-1
ECO: B96
WhiteElo: 1177
BlackElo: 2391
PlyCount: 84
TimeControl: 60+10

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6
7. f4 Nc6 8. Nxc6 bxc6 9. e5 h6 10. Bh4 g5 11. fxg5 Nd5 12. Nxd5 exd5 13. Qh5
Bg7 14. gxh6 Qa5+ 15. c3 Bxh6 16. Bg5 Bg7 17. Qf3 dxe5 18. Bf6 e4 19. Qf4 Bxf6
20. Qxf6 Rh5 21. Qxc6+ Ke7 22. Qxa8 Qc5 23. O-O-O Qe3+ 24. Kc2 Be6 25. Bxa6 Rg5
26. Rd2 f5 27. h4 Rg8 28. Qb7+ Kf6 29. Qb4 f4 30. Qd4+ Qxd4 31. cxd4 e3 32. Re2
Bf5+ 33. Bd3 Rc8+ 34. Kd1 Bxd3 35. Rhe1 Rc4 36. g3 Rxd4 37. gxf4 Bg6+ 38. Kc1
Rc4+ 39. Kd1 Bh5 40. a3 d4 41. Rg1 d3 42. Rg5 dxe2+ 0-1

I was down under 2 mins from about move 26 onwards.

antichrist
10-09-2005, 10:12 PM
only watched about half the moves, you should not have exchanged knights

Trent Parker
11-09-2005, 01:25 AM
I personally wouldn't have swapped off queens. When there are passed pawns i like to keep pieces on the board to minimise the possibility of pawn pushing......

- You are clearly up material so why not move K to b1 rather than c2? Pull your king away from the black major pieces....

- Rather than defending the g pawn with your rook, why not g3 ? You will have a solid pawn structure and blacks f pawn can now not be pushed.

Garvinator
11-09-2005, 06:19 AM
I personally wouldn't have swapped off queens. When there are passed pawns i like to keep pieces on the board to minimise the possibility of pawn pushing......

- You are clearly up material so why not move K to b1 rather than c2? Pull your king away from the black major pieces....

- Rather than defending the g pawn with your rook, why not g3 ? You will have a solid pawn structure and blacks f pawn can now not be pushed.
Looking at the game with Stephen afterwards, he thought Kc2 was best, with the idea of moving it to b3 later. Also he thought that Rd2 was best as well.

The big mistake Stephen reckons I made was that after I played h4, kicking the rook to g8, I didnt continue pushing the h pawn.

Rincewind
11-09-2005, 10:22 AM
Here are my comments for what they're worth

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Nc6
{I assume this is a pet line of Black's. Not a novelty but very much a
sideline. Normal is 7...Be7 or Qb6. Agasint a senior rated <1400 I'd
probably play Qb6 and hope to profit from a tactical oversight in the
ensuing complications. }
8.Nxc6
{Don't listen to AW, Nxc6 is playable. e5 immediately is the other
main option}
8...bxc6 9.e5 h6 10.Bh4 g5 11.fxg5 Nd5 12.Nxd5
{Here again swappnig knights was not a major problem but Ne4 was the
other option.}
( 12.Ne4 Qb6 13.Bd3 hxg5 )
12...exd5 13.Qh5
{Not sure about this move. Looks dangerous but is it? exd6 or Qe2
worth consdiering.}
13...Bg7
{This looks to be a mistake. Be7 was better.}
14.gxh6 Qa5+ 15.c3 Bxh6 16.Bg5
{Again Qe2 worth considering here.}
16...Bg7 17.Qf3 dxe5 18.Bf6 e4 19.Qf4 Bxf6 20.Qxf6 Rh5
{A horrible blunder? More likely a huge gamble. Solo was under
pressure in the game and you have made him work but this was just bad
chess. Objectively better to O-O and give you the half point if you
want it. However, in the end, his gamble paid off :clap: Who dares
wins.}
( 20...O-O 21.Qg5+ )
21.Qxc6+ Ke7 22.Qxa8 Qc5 23.O-O-O Qe3+ 24.Kc2
{King looks a bit exposed at c2. Why not Kb1?}
24...Be6 25.Bxa6 Rg5 26.Rd2
{g3 looks natural}
26...f5 27.h4 Rg8 28.Qb7+ Kf6 29.Qb4 f4
{I agree with Trent that there are better spots for your queen and in
this position queen trade is not best. Qd6 looking to maximise
activity looks better.}
30.Qd4+ Qxd4 31.cxd4 e3 32.Re2 Bf5+ 33.Bd3
{This is your first big mistake. Kc3 maintains the advantage}
33...Rc8+ 34.Kd1
{This too is not best. Kb3 is better as it avoid future bishop pins. Time
pressure probably telling here}
34...Bxd3 35.Rhe1 Rc4
{This give you the chance to play b3 and edge back in front}
36.g3
{After this move Black is fine or better. b3 would have maintained an
advantage for White}
( 36.b3 Bxe2+ 37.Kxe2 {White looks better with more pawns and passers
on both wings} )
36...Rxd4 37.gxf4 Bg6+ 38.Kc1 Rc4+ 39.Kd1 Bh5 40.a3
{Ouch. Rg1 better but Black still wins. After the text checkmate is
forced in short order.}
40...d4 41.Rg1 d3 42.Rg5 dxe2+ 0-1

Rincewind
11-09-2005, 06:17 PM
only watched about half the moves, you should not have exchanged knights

At which point do you mean? 8.Nxc6 or 12.Nxd5?

antichrist
11-09-2005, 07:37 PM
At which point do you mean? 8.Nxc6 or 12.Nxd5?

Presuming eight is correct move no. Nxc6, I did not see other knight exchange which I think is recommended.

Rincewind
11-09-2005, 07:49 PM
Presuming eight is correct move no. Nxc6, I did not see other knight exchange which I think is recommended.

Nunn gives 8.Nxc6 as the main line.

antichrist
11-09-2005, 08:55 PM
Nunn gives 8.Nxc6 as the main line.

I did not know that, but there are so many lines and what I know is all probably jumbled up by now. But I was under the impression that White is only helping Black develop. What page are you referring to in which edition?

Also I have my own theories as I do on many issues but I will keep them to myself, just so I won't make a bigger fool of myself if that is possible.

Rincewind
11-09-2005, 09:39 PM
I did not know that, but there are so many lines and what I know is all probably jumbled up by now. But I was under the impression that White is only helping Black develop. What page are you referring to in which edition?

Also I have my own theories as I do on many issues but I will keep them to myself, just so I won't make a bigger fool of myself if that is possible.

John Nunn
The Complete Najdorf: 6.Bg5
1st Ed. 1996
pp 315-316

antichrist
11-09-2005, 09:56 PM
thanks, without Nunn's back up do you think White is assisting Black's development?

Garvinator
11-09-2005, 10:17 PM
Thanks for the comments Barry and Peter. Regarding the opening, All of the opening is theory including Qh5, I did not know this, but it felt rather 'forcing' and I was ok with the position till then. After Bg7, I should have continued g6. Stephen and I looked at this option after the game.

I didnt hesitate in swapping knights after Nc6.

14. g6 Qa5 15. c3 0-0 16. Bd3 dxe5 17. 0-0 and I think white is doing just fine here.

In reference to black's 20th move, I was wondering if black would castle or try and play something else. During the 15 minutes I was waiting for black's reply to Qxf6, I was wondering if I would take the perpetual. I know this would seem to be a no brainer for almost anyone.

I was sitting there and walking around thinking, h pawn that can be advanced up the board, Bishop that can be developed via e2. Not sure what I would have done if black had of castled kingside. :hmm: Will never know now.

Rincewind
11-09-2005, 11:58 PM
thanks, without Nunn's back up do you think White is assisting Black's development?

No. The thing is (I think) is that you know that in lots of Sicilian lines Nxc6 is not usually played, therefore you get the impression that Nxc6 is bad for white in all Sicilians. The thing is this is a very specific line and the idea is to play e5 to take advantage of the pin of the knight on f6.

This is the problem with forming positional assessments without backing them up with concrete variations. This is the one big lesson to be learned from the post-WWII soviet masters. Positional assessments are fine but it's all about the variations. If they don't add up you can chuck your positional assessments out the window, they're not worth diddly.

Rincewind
12-09-2005, 12:04 AM
In reference to black's 20th move, I was wondering if black would castle or try and play something else. During the 15 minutes I was waiting for black's reply to Qxf6, I was wondering if I would take the perpetual. I know this would seem to be a no brainer for almost anyone.

I was sitting there and walking around thinking, h pawn that can be advanced up the board, Bishop that can be developed via e2. Not sure what I would have done if black had of castled kingside. :hmm: Will never know now.

White does seem better after 20...o-o however I think I would have taken the draw unless I really needed to try for a win. I think Solo was worried about you taken the draw and which is why he opted to go a rook down instead. That was a gutsy decision.