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bobby1972
29-08-2005, 12:02 PM
Melbourne Chess Club Open
9 round Swiss
Mondays at 7.00 pm from 29th August to the 24th October;
Entries close 6.30 pm 29th August
Time control: 90 minutes + 60 seconds\move
Entry fee: $65 full, $55 concession, less $5 MCC members

Bereaved
30-08-2005, 01:19 AM
Hello, everyone,

Can barely keep my eyes open owing to tiredness and Flu.

Will speak of some of these Games soon


Round 1 results

1 Peter Froehlich 2374 [0] 1:0 John Davenport 1611 [0]
2 Alex Kaplan 1601 [0] 0:1 David Beaumont 1926 [0]
3 James K Hislop 2089 [0] 1:0 Patrice Fortin 1600 [0]
4 Adel Ghobrial 1597 [0] 0:1 Pano Skiotis 2050 [0]
5 Malcolm Pyke 1988 [0] 1:0 Robert Brooking 1512 [0]
6 Nick Ivanov 1451 [0] 1:0 Thai Ly 1953 [0]
7 Richard Voon 1901 [0] 1:0 Adam Lovegrove 1438 [0]
8 Luke Cutting 1365 [0] 1:0 Jim Papadinis 1788 [0]
9 George Zileski 1743 [0] 1:0 Steven Doon 1328 [0]
10 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [0] 1:0 Barboros Kara 1728 [0]
11 Roger Beattie 1705 [0] 1:0 Wendy Smith 1210 [0]
12 Paul Sanderson 1163 [0] 0:1 Paul Kovacevic 1684 [0]
13 Richard Mc Cart 1682 [0] 1:0 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1050 [0]
14 Ben Henzgen 1000 [0] .5:.5 John Beckman 1613 [0]
15 Emanuel Ruzeu 1344 [0] : Guy West 2369 [0]


West postpones owing to forgetting the event started tonight, and Manny Volunteered to play him later on Saturday at 5.pm

A provisional draw based on West winning might look distinctly like this


Very provisional pairings Round 2

1 George Zileski 1743 [1] : Peter Froehlich 2374 [1]
2 Guy West 2369 [0] : Roger Beattie 1705 [1]
3 Paul Kovacevic 1684 [1] : James K Hislop 2089 [1]
4 Pano Skiotis 2050 [1] : Richard Mc Cart 1682 [1]
5 Nick Ivanov 1451 [1] : Malcolm Pyke 1988 [1]
6 David Beaumont 1926 [1] : Luke Cutting 1365 [1]
7 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [1] : Richard Voon 1901 [1]
8 John Beckman 1613 [.5] : Thai Ly 1953 [0]
9 Jim Papadinis 1788 [0] : Ben Henzgen 1000 [.5]
10 Barboros Kara 1728 [0] : Adam Lovegrove 1438 [0]
11 John Davenport 1611 [0] : Emanuel Ruzeu 1344 [0]
12 Steven Doon 1328 [0] : Alex Kaplan 1601 [0]
13 Patrice Fortin 1600 [0] : Wendy Smith 1210 [0]
14 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1050 [0] : Adel Ghobrial 1597 [0]
15 Robert Brooking 1512 [0] : Paul Sanderson 1163 [0]


The reason for the emphasis on very is the desire to try and get a few late entries. Any interested party should contact the club

Take care and God Bless, all, Macavity

bergil
30-08-2005, 01:48 AM
A few upsets in round 1

Garvinator
30-08-2005, 02:41 AM
Am I right that there are three bbers playing in the tournament?

Rincewind
30-08-2005, 07:52 AM
A few upsets in round 1

Yes White did well in round 1. 75% !!!

Bereaved
30-08-2005, 09:38 AM
Hello everyone, at least 4 BBers that I know of

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Spiny Norman
30-08-2005, 11:46 AM
Can barely keep my eyes open owing to tiredness and Flu.
You and me both ... I managed about 1 hour of sleep last night, due to runny nose, sneezing, sore throat, hacking cough ... so am at home having a (rare) day off work.

antichrist
30-08-2005, 12:16 PM
You and me both ... I managed about 1 hour of sleep last night, due to runny nose, sneezing, sore throat, hacking cough ... so am at home having a (rare) day off work.

Both of you, all those blessings have not done any good.

Spiny Norman
30-08-2005, 12:32 PM
Both of you, all those blessings have not done any good.
Yep, we're obviously being punished for something or other ...

Garvinator
30-08-2005, 01:52 PM
Hello everyone, at least 4 BBers that I know of

Take care and God Bless, Macavity
i can see fg7, macavity and whiteelephant i think. Who is the fourth?

Bereaved
01-09-2005, 07:16 AM
Hello everyone,
please be aware that the draw for round 2 is likely to change owing to a couple of late entries, will let you all know what goes on,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Oh GG, I don't think that White elephant is one of the Bb ers

WhiteElephant
01-09-2005, 07:22 AM
Hello everyone,
please be aware that the draw for round 2 is likely to change owing to a couple of late entries, will let you all know what goes on,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Oh GG, I don't think that White elephant is one of the Bb ers

Heh, alas I am not playing in this tournament although I would enjoy the challenge of playing against some of the guys in this field.

Apart from FG7 & macavity, Guy West is an infrequent BBer, not sure about the 4th.

firegoat7
01-09-2005, 08:44 PM
Apart from FG7 & macavity, Guy West is an infrequent BBer, not sure about the 4th.

Maybe it requires a houdini like effort to find the 4th player.

Cheers Fg7

Gattaca
03-09-2005, 12:52 AM
News flash!

Myself and Watto are both bb'ers who are playing in the event. Late entries.

Watto recently pointed out that if we combined our ratings we are the strongest player in the world by a long way, so watch out!

PHAT
03-09-2005, 01:50 AM
What is the story behind the story that DB cannot play certain rounds in certain places?

Bereaved
03-09-2005, 09:55 PM
Wrong thread Matt,
Try vic Champs
Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Bereaved
03-09-2005, 10:02 PM
Hello Everyone,

As previously mentioned, it was thought that there would need to be amendments to the draw for round two in the event of there being any late entries, which there have been.

Firstly, a repeat of round 1 for the sake of completeness with the added new pairings.


Round 1

1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [0] 1:0 John Davenport 1611 [0]
2 Alex Kaplan 1636 [0] 0:1 David Beaumont 1932 [0]
3 James K Hislop 2155 [0] 1:0 Patrice Fortin 1600 [0]
4 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [0] 0:1 Pano Skiotis 2050 [0]
5 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [0] 1:0 Robert Brooking 1487 [0]
6 Nick Ivanov 1469 [0] 1:0 Thai Ly 1910 [0]
7 Richard Voon 1852 [0] 1:0 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [0]
8 Luke Cutting 1365 [0] 1:0 Jim Papadinis 1831 [0]
9 George Zileski 1743 [0] 1:0 Steven Doon 1404 [0]
10 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [0] 1:0 Barboros Kara 1756 [0]
11 Roger Beattie 1692 [0] 1:0 Wendy Smith 1210 [0]
12 Paul Sanderson 982 [0] 0:1 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [0]
13 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [0] 1:0 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0]
14 Ben Henzgen 1146 [0] .5:.5 John Beckman 1584 [0]
15 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [0] : Guy West 2369 [0]
16 Jean Watson 959 [0] : Peter Fry 1866 [0]
17 Marcus Raine 1924 [0] : Alec Knox 1526 [0]



Round 2 Pairings (Actual)

1 Richard Voon 1852 [1] : Peter Froehlich 2376 [1]
2 Guy West 2369 [0] : George Zileski 1743 [1]
3 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [1] : James K Hislop 2155 [1]
4 Pano Skiotis 2050 [1] : Roger Beattie 1692 [1]
5 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [1] : Malcolm Pyke 2005 [1]
6 David Beaumont 1932 [1] : Nick Ivanov 1469 [1]
7 Luke Cutting 1365 [1] : Marcus Raine 1924 [0]
8 Peter Fry 1866 [0] : Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [1]
9 John Beckman 1584 [.5] : Thai Ly 1910 [0]
10 Jim Papadinis 1831 [0] : Ben Henzgen 1146 [.5]
11 Barboros Kara 1756 [0] : Adam Lovegrove 1445 [0]
12 Steven Doon 1404 [0] : Alex Kaplan 1636 [0]
13 John Davenport 1611 [0] : Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [0]
14 Patrice Fortin 1600 [0] : Wendy Smith 1210 [0]
15 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0] : Adel Ghobrial 1560 [0]
16 Alec Knox 1526 [0] : Paul Sanderson 982 [0]
17 Robert Brooking 1487 [0] : Jean Watson 959 [0]


Take care and God Bless, Macavity

PS I will be pm'ing a couple of you, as suggested

Bereaved
06-09-2005, 01:11 AM
Hello, Everyone,

Here are the results of the games played tonight, and Guy West's postponed round 1 result


Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [0] 0:1 Guy West 2369 [0]


Round 2 Results

1 Richard Voon 1852 [1] 0:1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [1]
2 Guy West 2369 [1] 1:0 George Zileski 1743 [1]
3 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [1] .5:.5 James K Hislop 2155 [1]
4 Pano Skiotis 2050 [1] 1:0 Roger Beattie 1692 [1]
5 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [1] 0:1 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [1]
6 David Beaumont 1932 [1] 0:1 Nick Ivanov 1469 [1]
7 Luke Cutting 1365 [1] 0:1 Marcus Raine 1924 [0]
8 Peter Fry 1866 [0] 1:0 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [1]
9 John Beckman 1584 [.5] 0:1 Thai Ly 1910 [0]
10 Jim Papadinis 1831 [0] 1:0 Ben Henzgen 1146 [.5]
11 Barboros Kara 1756 [0] 1:0 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [0]
12 Steven Doon 1404 [0] 0:1 Alex Kaplan 1636 [0]
13 John Davenport 1611 [0] 1:0 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [0]
14 Patrice Fortin 1600 [0] 1:0 Wendy Smith 1210 [0]
15 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0] P:P Adel Ghobrial 1560 [0]
16 Alec Knox 1526 [0] 1:0 Paul Sanderson 982 [0]
17 Robert Brooking 1487 [0] 1:0 Jean Watson 959 [0]

Given the 3 outstanding postponements to be played, I will wait for at least a couple of them to be played before posting any round 3 pairings, provisional or otherwise,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

bobby1972
06-09-2005, 09:52 AM
hey david people said you were belly aching after losing to ivanov the exchange up!they said you didn`t look so good. :(

Bereaved
06-09-2005, 10:03 AM
Hello Bobby, is that one all now?? :owned:

I wouldn't have been able to resist either, it is just a bit of fun!

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Bereaved
11-09-2005, 08:45 PM
Hi everyone,

Apparently spy ware was what has caused me to be unable to access the internet for the last couple of days until such point as I could get it cleared from my hard drive, and God Willling it never returns as it was a pain.

Firstly, here are the results of the other postponed games from round 1


16 Jean Watson 959 [0] 0:1 Peter Fry 1866 [0]
17 Marcus Raine 1924 [0] 1:0 Alec Knox 1526 [0]

And the postponed round 2 game will be contained within the complete results for round 2


Round 2 Results

1 Richard Voon 1852 [1] 0:1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [1]
2 Guy West 2369 [1] 1:0 George Zileski 1743 [1]
3 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [1] .5:.5 James K Hislop 2155 [1]
4 Pano Skiotis 2050 [1] 1:0 Roger Beattie 1692 [1]
5 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [1] 0:1 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [1]
6 David Beaumont 1932 [1] 0:1 Nick Ivanov 1469 [1]
7 Luke Cutting 1365 [1] 0:1 Marcus Raine 1924 [1]
8 Peter Fry 1866 [1] 1:0 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [1]
9 John Beckman 1584 [.5] 0:1 Thai Ly 1910 [0]
10 Jim Papadinis 1831 [0] 1:0 Ben Henzgen 1146 [.5]
11 Barboros Kara 1756 [0] 1:0 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [0]
12 Steven Doon 1404 [0] 0:1 Alex Kaplan 1636 [0]
13 John Davenport 1611 [0] 1:0 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [0]
14 Patrice Fortin 1600 [0] 1:0 Wendy Smith 1210 [0]
15 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0] -:+ Adel Ghobrial 1560 [0]
16 Alec Knox 1526 [0] 1:0 Paul Sanderson 982 [0]
17 Robert Brooking 1487 [0] 1:0 Jean Watson 959 [0]




and the round 3 pairings

1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [2] : Peter Fry 1866 [2]
2 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [2] : Guy West 2369 [2]
3 Marcus Raine 1924 [2] : Pano Skiotis 2050 [2]
4 Nick Ivanov 1469 [2] : Richard Mc Cart 1725 [1.5]
5 James K Hislop 2155 [1.5] : David Beaumont 1932 [1]
6 Thai Ly 1910 [1] : John Davenport 1611 [1]
7 Alex Kaplan 1636 [1] : Richard Voon 1852 [1]
8 Patrice Fortin 1600 [1] : Jim Papadinis 1831 [1]
9 Barboros Kara 1756 [1] : Adel Ghobrial 1560 [1]
10 George Zileski 1743 [1] : Alec Knox 1526 [1]
11 Roger Beattie 1692 [1] : Robert Brooking 1487 [1]
12 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [1] : Paul Kovacevic 1686 [1]
13 Ben Henzgen 1146 [.5] : Luke Cutting 1365 [1]
14 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [0] : John Beckman 1584 [.5]
15 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0] : Steven Doon 1404 [0]
16 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [0] : Paul Sanderson 982 [0]
17 Wendy Smith 1210 [0] : Jean Watson 959 [0]


Please note also that a decision was made by Greg Gatto to utilize the September ratings for the remainder of the tournament ( rd 2-9) although the first round had been paired on the June ratings. This was done to try and ensure that the most accurate pairings were produced. It may also explain the discrepancies with earlier posts.

Once again, sorry to everyone for the delay in posting these,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Oh and here are the current standings.


Standings ( End Round 2 )

1-7 Froehlich, Peter 2376 2
Pyke, Malcolm 2005 2
Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 2
Skiotis, Pano 2050 2
Ivanov, Nick 1469 2
West, Guy 2369 2
Fry, Peter VIC 1866 2
8-9 Mc Cart, Richard 1725 1.5
Hislop, James K SA 2155 1.5
10-25 Beaumont, David VIC 1932 1
Wojnar, Sebastian 1300p 1
Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1
Ly, Thai 1910 1
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 1
Voon, Richard 1852 1
Zileski, George 1743 1
Beattie, Roger 1692 1
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 1
Davenport, John VIC 1611 1
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 1
Brooking, Robert 1487 1
Papadinis, Jim 1831 1
Fortin, Patrice 1600p 1
Kaplan, Alex 1636 1
Kara, Barboros 1756 1
26-27 Henzgen, Ben 1146 0.5
Beckman, John 1584 0.5
28-34 Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 0
Watson, Jean 959 0
Lovegrove, Adam 1445 0
Doon, Steven 1404 0
Smith, Wendy 1210 0
Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 0
Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 0

firegoat7
12-09-2005, 06:45 PM
Macavity,

I am surprised by the pairings of the last round! It seems Swiss Perfect does not seem to understand much about pairing rules, maybe Mr Voon has some valid points.

Cheers Fg7

firegoat7
12-09-2005, 06:48 PM
hey david people said you were belly aching after losing to ivanov the exchange up!they said you didn`t look so good. :(
Now Ascaro, if this was really true then you would have been here to see it, which as we both know you were not.

Nevertheless,
I notice with some disappointment that you said very little after your game with CW in the reserves tournament. Damn I was hoping for some vintage Pecori after watching you grovel in such a passive position. Thats the trouble with those Maroczy positions for black :clap:

cheers Fg7

Bereaved
13-09-2005, 03:25 AM
Hello, Everyone,

I had to wait until the last game was finished tonight ( Hislop - Beaumont, which didn't finish until after 1am, making it a 6+ hour game!!!) in order to be able to post the pairings for Round 4 and the complete results for Round 3.
I have also included the standings once again, which has Nikola Ivanov in a position that he may have never been in before in a tournament such as this, and well done to him!! :clap: :clap: it certainly won't do his rating any harm next list!!!




Round 3 Results

1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [2] 1:0 Peter Fry 1866 [2]
2 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [2] .5:.5 Guy West 2369 [2]
3 Marcus Raine 1924 [2] .5:.5 Pano Skiotis 2050 [2]
4 Nick Ivanov 1469 [2] 1:0 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [1.5]
5 James K Hislop 2155 [1.5] 1:0 David Beaumont 1932 [1]
6 Thai Ly 1910 [1] 1:0 John Davenport 1611 [1]
7 Alex Kaplan 1636 [1] .5:.5 Richard Voon 1852 [1]
8 Patrice Fortin 1600 [1] 0:1 Jim Papadinis 1831 [1]
9 Barboros Kara 1756 [1] 1:0 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [1]
10 George Zileski 1743 [1] 1:0 Alec Knox 1526 [1]
11 Roger Beattie 1692 [1] .5:.5 Robert Brooking 1487 [1]
12 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [1] 0:1 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [1]
13 Ben Henzgen 1146 [.5] 1:0 Luke Cutting 1365 [1]
14 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [0] 1:0 John Beckman 1584 [.5]
15 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0] 0:1 Steven Doon 1404 [0]
16 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [0] 1:0 Paul Sanderson 982 [0]
17 Wendy Smith 1210 [0] .5:.5 Jean Watson 959 [0]



Round 4 pairings

1 Nick Ivanov 1469 [3] : Peter Froehlich 2376 [3]
2 Guy West 2369 [2.5] : Marcus Raine 1924 [2.5]
3 Pano Skiotis 2050 [2.5] : James K Hislop 2155 [2.5]
4 Peter Fry 1866 [2] : Malcolm Pyke 2005 [2.5]
5 Thai Ly 1910 [2] : Barboros Kara 1756 [2]
6 Jim Papadinis 1831 [2] : George Zileski 1743 [2]
7 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [2] : Richard Voon 1852 [1.5]
8 Robert Brooking 1487 [1.5] : Richard Mc Cart 1725 [1.5]
9 Ben Henzgen 1146 [1.5] : Roger Beattie 1692 [1.5]
10 John Davenport 1611 [1] : Alex Kaplan 1636 [1.5]
11 David Beaumont 1932 [1] : Luke Cutting 1365 [1]
12 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [1] : Patrice Fortin 1600 [1]
13 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [1] : Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [1]
14 Alec Knox 1526 [1] : Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [1]
15 Steven Doon 1404 [1] : Wendy Smith 1210 [.5]
16 Jean Watson 959 [.5] : John Beckman 1584 [.5]
17 Paul Sanderson 982 [0] : Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0]


Standings (Round 3)

1-2 Froehlich, Peter 2376 3
Ivanov, Nick 1469 3!!
3-7 Pyke, Malcolm 2005 2.5
West, Guy 2369 2.5
Skiotis, Pano 2050 2.5
Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 2.5
Hislop, James K SA 2155 2.5
8-13 Fry, Peter VIC 1866 2
Zileski, George 1743 2
Ly, Thai 1910 2
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 2
Papadinis, Jim 1831 2
Kara, Barboros 1756 2
14-19 Mc Cart, Richard 1725 1.5
Voon, Richard 1852 1.5
Beattie, Roger 1692 1.5
Brooking, Robert 1487 1.5
Kaplan, Alex 1636 1.5
Henzgen, Ben 1146 1.5
20-29 Beaumont, David VIC 1932 1
Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1
Wojnar, Sebastian 1300 1
Davenport, John VIC 1611 1
Fortin, Patrice 1600 1
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 1
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 1
Lovegrove, Adam 1445 1
Doon, Steven 1404 1
Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 1
30-32 Beckman, John 1584 0.5
Watson, Jean 959 0.5
Smith, Wendy 1210 0.5
33-34 Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 0
Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 0


Take care all, and God Bless, Macavity

firegoat7
19-09-2005, 11:17 PM
Hi,

Thank goodness I did not lose to a C :eek: anberra player

Bereaved
20-09-2005, 02:48 AM
Hi everyone,
after 4 rounds the tournament has produced an outright leader in International Master Peter Froehlich, who on 4/4 is the only player to have not concede any points yet.

As the fourth round had 2 postponements, I will post the results as far as they are available.

Round 4 results ( so far )


1 Nick Ivanov 1469 [3] 0:1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [3]
2 Guy West 2369 [2.5] 1:0 Marcus Raine 1924 [2.5]
3 Pano Skiotis 2050 [2.5] .5:.5 James K Hislop 2155 [2.5]
4 Peter Fry 1866 [2] 0:1 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [2.5]
5 Thai Ly 1910 [2] 0:1 Barboros Kara 1756 [2]
6 Jim Papadinis 1831 [2] 0:1 George Zileski 1743 [2]
7 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [2] 0:1 Richard Voon 1852 [1.5]
8 Robert Brooking 1487 [1.5] 0:1 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [1.5]
9 Ben Henzgen 1146 [1.5] 0:1 Roger Beattie 1692 [1.5]
10 John Davenport 1611 [1] 1:0 Alex Kaplan 1636 [1.5]
11 David Beaumont 1932 [1] 1:0 Luke Cutting 1365 [1]
12 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [1] : Patrice Fortin 1600 [1]
13 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [1] 1:0 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [1]
14 Alec Knox 1526 [1] 1:0 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [1]
15 Steven Doon 1404 [1] 1:0 Wendy Smith 1210 [.5]
16 Jean Watson 959 [.5] 1:0 John Beckman 1584 [.5]
17 Paul Sanderson 982 [0] : Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0]


Current Standings (being mindful that there are two games to be played)


1 Froehlich, Peter 2376 4
2-3 West, Guy 2369 3.5
Pyke, Malcolm 2005 3.5
4-8 Skiotis, Pano 2050 3
Ivanov, Nick 1469 3
Hislop, James K SA 2155 3
Zileski, George 1743 3
Kara, Barboros 1756 3
9-12 Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 2.5
Mc Cart, Richard 1725 2.5
Voon, Richard 1852 2.5
Beattie, Roger 1692 2.5
13-21 Fry, Peter VIC 1866 2
Ly, Thai 1910 2
Beaumont, David VIC 1932 2
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 2
Davenport, John VIC 1611 2
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 2
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 2
Papadinis, Jim 1831 2
Doon, Steven 1404 2
22-25 Brooking, Robert 1487 1.5
Kaplan, Alex 1636 1.5
Henzgen, Ben 1146 1.5
Watson, Jean 959 1.5
26-30 Wojnar, Sebastian 1300 1
Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1
Lovegrove, Adam 1445 1
Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 1
Fortin, Patrice 1600 1
31-32 Smith, Wendy 1210 0.5
Beckman, John 1584 0.5
33-34 Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 0
Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 0

Crosstable after 4 rounds


No Name Feder Loc Total 1 2 3 4

1. Froehlich, Peter 2376 4 18:W 10:W 9:W 24:W
2. West, Guy 2369 3.5 28:W 13:W 5:D 7:W
3. Hislop, James K SA 2155 3 19:W 14:D 6:W 4:D
4. Skiotis, Pano 2050 3 21:W 15:W 7:D 3:D
5. Pyke, Malcolm 2005 3.5 23:W 16:W 2:D 9:W
6. Beaumont, David VIC 1932 2 17:W 24:L 3:L 27:W
7. Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 2.5 22:W 27:W 4:D 2:L
8. Ly, Thai 1910 2 24:L 20:W 18:W 12:L
9. Fry, Peter VIC 1866 2 34:W 29:W 1:L 5:L
10. Voon, Richard 1852 2.5 25:W 1:L 17:D 16:W
11. Papadinis, Jim 1831 2 27:L 31:W 19:W 13:L
12. Kara, Barboros 1756 3 29:L 25:W 21:W 8:W
13. Zileski, George 1743 3 26:W 2:L 22:W 11:W
14. Mc Cart, Richard 1725 2.5 32:W 3:D 24:L 23:W
15. Beattie, Roger 1692 2.5 30:W 4:L 23:D 31:W
16. Kovacevic, Paul 1686 2 33:W 5:L 29:W 10:L
17. Kaplan, Alex 1636 1.5 6:L 26:W 10:D 18:L
18. Davenport, John VIC 1611 2 1:L 28:W 8:L 17:W
19. Fortin, Patrice 1600p 1 3:L 30:W 11:L 25:
20. Beckman, John 1584 .5 31:D 8:L 25:L 34:L
21. Ghobrial, Adel 1560 2 4:L 32:+ 12:L 28:W
22. Knox, Alec VIC 1526 2 7:L 33:W 13:L 29:W
23. Brooking, Robert 1487 1.5 5:L 34:W 15:D 14:L
24. Ivanov, Nick 1469 3 8:W 6:W 14:W 1:L
25. Lovegrove, Adam 1445 1 10:L 12:L 20:W 19:
26. Doon, Steven 1404 2 13:L 17:L 32:W 30:W
27. Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1 11:W 7:L 31:L 6:L
28. Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 1 2:L 18:L 33:W 21:L
29. Wojnar, Sebastian 1300p 1 12:W 9:L 16:L 22:L
30. Smith, Wendy 1210 .5 15:L 19:L 34:D 26:L
31. Henzgen, Ben 1146 1.5 20:D 11:L 27:W 15:L
32. Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 0 14:L 21:- 26:L 33:
33. Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 0 16:L 22:L 28:L 32:
34. Watson, Jean 959 1.5 9:L 23:L 30:D 20:W



When I hear more of the postponed games, I will post a provisional draw hopefully,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Bereaved
23-09-2005, 02:26 PM
Hello everyone,

Of the postponed games, the more important of the two has been played.


12 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [1] 1:0 Patrice Fortin 1600p [1]


and as such I can offer a fairly "solid" set of Round 5 pairings


Round 5 pairings

1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [4] : Guy West 2369 [3.5]
2 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [3.5] : James K Hislop 2155 [3]
3 George Zileski 1743 [3] P:P Pano Skiotis 2050 [3]
4 Barboros Kara 1756 [3] : Nick Ivanov 1469 [3]
5 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [2.5] : Marcus Raine 1924 [2.5]
6 Richard Voon 1852 [2.5] : Roger Beattie 1692 [2.5]
7 John Davenport 1611 [2] : David Beaumont 1932 [2]
8 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [2] : Thai Ly 1910 [2]
9 Alec Knox 1526 [2] : Peter Fry 1866 [2]
10 Jim Papadinis 1831 [2] : Adam Lovegrove 1445 [2]
11 Steven Doon 1404 [2] : Paul Kovacevic 1686 [2]
12 Alex Kaplan 1636 [1.5] : Jean Watson 959 [1.5]
13 Robert Brooking 1487 [1.5] : Ben Henzgen 1146 [1.5]
14 Luke Cutting 1365 [1] : Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0]
15 John Beckman 1584 [.5] : Patrice Fortin 1600p [1]
16 Wendy Smith 1210 [.5] : Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [1]
17 Paul Sanderson 982 [0] : Sebastian Wojnar 1300p [1]


Take care and God Bless, Macavity

ursogr8
23-09-2005, 03:32 PM
hi mac

Competitive index of this round is 272.


starter

Bereaved
25-09-2005, 07:08 PM
Hello, Everyone,

pairings for round 5 in my last post stand,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Bereaved
28-09-2005, 01:23 AM
Hello, everyone,

As I have now found out, the two postponed games are not being played soon enough to allow a reasonable time for the arrangement of postponements for round 6 owing to Jewish New Year. As such a round 6 draw will be posted tomorrow.


Round 5 Results:

1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [4] .5:.5 Guy West 2369 [3.5]
2 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [3.5] 1:0 James K Hislop 2155 [3]
3 George Zileski 1743 [3] p:p Pano Skiotis 2050 [3]
4 Barboros Kara 1756 [3] 1:0 Nick Ivanov 1469 [3]
5 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [2.5] 0:1 Marcus Raine 1924 [2.5]
6 Richard Voon 1852 [2.5] .5:.5 Roger Beattie 1692 [2.5]
7 John Davenport 1611 [2] 0:1 David Beaumont 1932 [2]
8 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [2] 0:1 Thai Ly 1910 [2]
9 Alec Knox 1526 [2] .5:.5 Peter Fry 1866 [2]
10 Jim Papadinis 1831 [2] 1:0 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [2]
11 Steven Doon 1404 [2] 0:1 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [2]
12 Alex Kaplan 1636 [1.5] 1:0 Jean Watson 959 [1.5]
13 Robert Brooking 1487 [1.5] .5:.5 Ben Henzgen 1146 [1.5]
14 Luke Cutting 1365 [1] .5:.5 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0]
15 John Beckman 1584 [.5] 0:1 Patrice Fortin 1600 [1]
16 Wendy Smith 1210 [.5] p:p Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [1]
17 Paul Sanderson 982 [0] 0:1 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [1]



Current standings after Round 5 ( with the two postponements included as unplayed.)



1-2 Froehlich, Peter 2376 4.5
Pyke, Malcolm 2005 4.5
3-4 West, Guy 2369 4
Kara, Barboros 1756 4
5 Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 3.5
6-15 Ivanov, Nick 1469 3
Skiotis, Pano 2050 3
Hislop, James K SA 2155 3
Voon, Richard 1852 3
Zileski, George 1743 3
Beaumont, David VIC 1932 3
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 3
Ly, Thai 1910 3
Beattie, Roger 1692 3
Papadinis, Jim 1831 3
16-19 Fry, Peter VIC 1866 2.5
Mc Cart, Richard 1725 2.5
Kaplan, Alex 1636 2.5
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 2.5
20-27 Davenport, John VIC 1611 2
Lovegrove, Adam 1445 2
Wojnar, Sebastian 1300 2
Brooking, Robert 1487 2
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 2
Doon, Steven 1404 2
Henzgen, Ben 1146 2
Fortin, Patrice 1600 2
28-29 Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1.5
Watson, Jean 959 1.5
30 Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 1
31-33 Beckman, John 1584 0.5
Smith, Wendy 1210 0.5
Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 0.5
34 Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 0

Take care and God bless, Macavity

Garvinator
28-09-2005, 01:57 AM
just when i think i have heard every possible reason for having postponements, i hear another :eek:

Rincewind
28-09-2005, 08:05 AM
just when i think i have heard every possible reason for having postponements, i hear another :eek:

You've never heard of a postponement for reasons of religious observance?

Bereaved
28-09-2005, 02:45 PM
Hello, Everyone,

I have managed to ascertain the details regarding the currently postponed games, and as such, here is the round 6 draw


Round 6 pairings

1 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [4.5] : Peter Froehlich 2376 [4.5]
2 Guy West 2369 [4] : Pano Skiotis 2050 [3]
3 Marcus Raine 1924 [3.5] : Barboros Kara 1756 [4]
4 James K Hislop 2155 [3] : Jim Papadinis 1831 [3]
5 David Beaumont 1932 [3] : George Zileski 1743 [3]
6 Thai Ly 1910 [3] : Richard Voon 1852 [3]
7 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [3] : Nick Ivanov 1469 [3]
8 Roger Beattie 1692 [3] : Richard Mc Cart 1725 [2.5]
9 Peter Fry 1866 [2.5] P:P Alex Kaplan 1636 [2.5]
10 Patrice Fortin 1600 [2] : Alec Knox 1526 [2.5]
11 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [2] : John Davenport 1611 [2]
12 Ben Henzgen 1146 [2] : Adel Ghobrial 1560 [2]
13 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [1] : Robert Brooking 1487 [2]
14 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [2] : Steven Doon 1404 [2]
15 Jean Watson 959 [1.5] : Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5]
16 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [.5] P :P John Beckman 1584 [.5]
17 Wendy Smith 1210 [.5] : Paul Sanderson 982 [0]


Take care everyone and may God Bless and keep you all well, Macavity

Oh and we regularly have postponement such as this at Melbourne, part of the way we try and be understanding

Bereaved
04-10-2005, 03:43 AM
Hello, Everyone,

Seem to be up atrociously late again,

Here are tonight's results (aside from the two postponements from this round and the one postponement from last round ) and the according standings in the absence of those games being played.

Round 6 Results


Round 6 Results

1 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [4.5] .5:.5 Peter Froehlich 2376 [4.5]
2 Guy West 2369 [4] 1:0 Pano Skiotis 2050 [3]
3 Marcus Raine 1924 [3.5] 1:0 Barboros Kara 1756 [4]
4 James K Hislop 2155 [3] 1:0 Jim Papadinis 1831 [3]
5 David Beaumont 1932 [3] .5:.5 George Zileski 1743 [3]
6 Thai Ly 1910 [3] 1:0 Richard Voon 1852 [3]
7 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [3] 0:1 Nick Ivanov 1469 [3]
8 Roger Beattie 1692 [3] 1:0 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [2.5]
9 Peter Fry 1866 [2.5] : Alex Kaplan 1636 [2.5]
10 Patrice Fortin 1600 [2] 1:0 Alec Knox 1526 [2.5]
11 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [2] 0:1 John Davenport 1611 [2]
12 Ben Henzgen 1146 [2] 0:1 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [2]
13 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [2] .5:.5 Robert Brooking 1487 [2]
14 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [2] .5:.5 Steven Doon 1404 [2]
15 Jean Watson 959 [1.5] 1:0 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5]
16 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5] : John Beckman 1584 [.5]
17 Wendy Smith 1210 [.5] +:- Paul Sanderson 982 [0]

Round 5 postponement

3 George Zileski 1743 [3] : Pano Skiotis 2050 [3]

Round 6 postponements

9 Peter Fry 1866 [2.5] : Alex Kaplan 1636 [2.5]
16 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5] : John Beckman 1584 [.5]



And the current standings, such as they are.


Standings after: 5.92453044 of Rounds of games complete!! ( for you starter!!)


1-3 West, Guy 2369 5
Froehlich, Peter 2376 5
Pyke, Malcolm 2005 5
4 Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 4.5
5-9 Ivanov, Nick 1469 4
Kara, Barboros 1756 4
Hislop, James K SA 2155 4
Ly, Thai 1910 4
Beattie, Roger 1692 4
10-11 Beaumont, David VIC 1932 3.5
Zileski, George 1743 3.5
12-18 Skiotis, Pano 2050 3
Voon, Richard 1852 3
Davenport, John VIC 1611 3
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 3
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 3
Papadinis, Jim 1831 3
Fortin, Patrice 1600 3
19-27 Mc Cart, Richard 1725 2.5
Fry, Peter VIC 1866 2.5
Brooking, Robert 1487 2.5
Lovegrove, Adam 1445 2.5
Kaplan, Alex 1636 2.5
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 2.5
Doon, Steven 1404 2.5
Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 2.5
Watson, Jean 959 2.5
28-29 Wojnar, Sebastian 1300 2
Henzgen, Ben 1146 2
30-32 Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1.5
Smith, Wendy 1210 1.5
Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 1.5
33 Beckman, John 1584 0.5
34 Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 0


The next draw will not be published before at least some of the postponements are played.

Should be later this week, probably after Thursday.

Take care all and may God bless and keep you all well, Macavity

Bereaved
07-10-2005, 02:44 PM
Hello, Everyone,

Here are the two postponed results played so far, and the round 7 draw was deemed able to be issued on the strength of those results by the director of play, Greg Gatto.

From Round 5


3 George Zileski 1743 [3] 0:1 Pano Skiotis 2050 [3]

From Round 6


9 Peter Fry 1866 [2.5] 1:0 Alex Kaplan 1636 [2.5]



Remaining game yet to be played from Round 6


16 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5] : John Beckman 1584 [.5]

and the round 7 pairings




1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [5] : Marcus Raine 1924 [4.5]
2 Guy West 2369 [5] : Thai Ly 1910 [4]
3 Pano Skiotis 2050 [4] : Malcolm Pyke 2005 [5]
4 Nick Ivanov 1469 [4] : James K Hislop 2155 [4]
5 Barboros Kara 1756 [4] : Roger Beattie 1692 [4]
6 George Zileski 1743 [3.5] : Peter Fry 1866 [3.5]
7 Richard Voon 1852 [3] : David Beaumont 1932 [3.5]
8 Jim Papadinis 1831 [3] : Paul Kovacevic 1686 [3]
9 John Davenport 1611 [3] : Patrice Fortin 1600 [3]
10 Alex Kaplan 1636 [2.5] : Adel Ghobrial 1560 [3]
11 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [2.5] : Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [2.5]
12 Alec Knox 1526 [2.5] : Jean Watson 959 [2.5]
13 Robert Brooking 1487 [2.5] : Adam Lovegrove 1445 [2.5]
14 Steven Doon 1404 [2.5] : Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [2]
15 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5] : Ben Henzgen 1146 [2]
16 John Beckman 1584 [.5] : Wendy Smith 1210 [1.5]
17 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] : Paul Sanderson 982 [0]



and an an almost after 6 rounds set of standings


1-3 West, Guy 2369 5
Froehlich, Peter 2376 5
Pyke, Malcolm 2005 5
4 Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 4.5
5-10 Skiotis, Pano 2050 4
Ivanov, Nick 1469 4
Hislop, James K SA 2155 4
Kara, Barboros 1756 4
Ly, Thai 1910 4
Beattie, Roger 1692 4
11-13 Zileski, George 1743 3.5
Fry, Peter VIC 1866 3.5
Beaumont, David VIC 1932 3.5
14-19 Voon, Richard 1852 3
Davenport, John VIC 1611 3
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 3
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 3
Papadinis, Jim 1831 3
Fortin, Patrice 1600 3
20-27 Mc Cart, Richard 1725 2.5
Kaplan, Alex 1636 2.5
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 2.5
Brooking, Robert 1487 2.5
Lovegrove, Adam 1445 2.5
Doon, Steven 1404 2.5
Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 2.5
Watson, Jean 959 2.5
28-29 Wojnar, Sebastian 1300 2
Henzgen, Ben 1146 2
30-32 Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1.5
Smith, Wendy 1210 1.5
Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 1.5
33 Beckman, John 1584 0.5
34 Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 0


Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Bereaved
11-10-2005, 01:35 AM
Hello everyone,

Here are the results from round 7, although I am missing one of them


Round 7 Results

1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [5] 1:0 Marcus Raine 1924 [4.5]
2 Guy West 2369 [5] 1:0 Thai Ly 1910 [4]
3 Pano Skiotis 2050 [4] .5:.5 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [5]
4 Nick Ivanov 1469 [4] 0:1 James K Hislop 2155 [4]
5 Barboros Kara 1756 [4] +:- Roger Beattie 1692 [4]
6 George Zileski 1743 [3.5] 0:1 Peter Fry 1866 [3.5]
7 Richard Voon 1852 [3] .5:.5 David Beaumont 1932 [3.5]
8 Jim Papadinis 1831 [3] .5:.5 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [3]
9 John Davenport 1611 [3] 0:1 Patrice Fortin 1600 [3]
10 Alex Kaplan 1636 [2.5] .5:.5 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [3]
11 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [2.5] 1:0 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [2.5]
12 Alec Knox 1526 [2.5] .5:.5 Jean Watson 959 [2.5]
13 Robert Brooking 1487 [2.5] .5:.5 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [2.5]
14 Steven Doon 1404 [2.5] 0:1 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [2]
15 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5] 0:1 Ben Henzgen 1146 [2]
16 John Beckman 1584 [.5] : Wendy Smith 1210 [1.5]
17 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] -:+ Paul Sanderson 982 [0]



Still unplayed from Round 6

16 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5] : John Beckman 1584 [.5]


And mostly complete standings after 7 rounds




1-2 Froehlich, Peter 2376 6
West, Guy 2369 6
3 Pyke, Malcolm 2005 5.5
4-5 Hislop, James K SA 2155 5
Kara, Barboros 1756 5
6-8 Skiotis, Pano 2050 4.5
Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 4.5
Fry, Peter VIC 1866 4.5
9-13 Ivanov, Nick 1469 4
Ly, Thai 1910 4
Beattie, Roger 1692 4
Beaumont, David VIC 1932 4
Fortin, Patrice 1600 4
14-19 Zileski, George 1743 3.5
Voon, Richard 1852 3.5
Mc Cart, Richard 1725 3.5
Papadinis, Jim 1831 3.5
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 3.5
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 3.5
20-27 Davenport, John VIC 1611 3
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 3
Brooking, Robert 1487 3
Kaplan, Alex 1636 3
Wojnar, Sebastian 1300 3
Lovegrove, Adam 1445 3
Henzgen, Ben 1146 3
Watson, Jean 959 3
28-29 Doon, Steven 1404 2.5
Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 2.5
30-32 Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1.5
Smith, Wendy 1210 1.5
Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 1.5
33 Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 1
34 Beckman, John 1584 0.5


Will post Round 8 draw when I find about last couple of games,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

PS the bottom standings are distorted by the postponements and missing results; do not take offence anyone please.

Watto
11-10-2005, 09:28 AM
Beckman beat Smith last night. Must not have been recorded on the sheet.

Gattaca
11-10-2005, 04:03 PM
Hi McCavity.

The best thing to do when there are outstanding results is to use the system of putting x to denote an unplayed game. So Beckman might be listed for example as 0.5xx (meaning half a point on the board plus two games in hand). This makes it easier for people to see the real situation when there are postponements.

Under this protocol a person on for example 2.0x would be put on a lower score bracket than a person on 2.5, but a line ahead of a person on 2.0.

I realise that the scores are probably printed out from Swissperfect but perhaps the x's could be added manually, even if the score is on the wrong line?

Bereaved
11-10-2005, 11:52 PM
Hello everyone,

Here is a set of pairings based on a conversation held with Greg Gatto today.

If it should change, you will be advised.


Round 8 pairings

1 James K Hislop 2155 [5] : Peter Froehlich 2376 [6]
2 Barboros Kara 1756 [5] : Guy West 2369 [6]
3 Marcus Raine 1924 [4.5] : Malcolm Pyke 2005 [5.5]
4 Peter Fry 1866 [4.5] : Pano Skiotis 2050 [4.5]
5 David Beaumont 1932 [4] : Roger Beattie 1692 [4]
6 Patrice Fortin 1600 [4] : Nick Ivanov 1469 [4]
7 Thai Ly 1910 [4] : Jim Papadinis 1831 [3.5]
8 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [3.5] : Richard Voon 1852 [3.5]
9 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [3.5] : George Zileski 1743 [3.5]
10 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [3.5] : John Davenport 1611 [3]
11 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [3] : Alex Kaplan 1636 [3]
12 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [3] : Alec Knox 1526 [3]
13 Jean Watson 959 [3] : Ben Henzgen 1146 [3]
14 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5x] : Robert Brooking 1487 [3]
15 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [2.5] : Steven Doon 1404 [2.5]
16 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] : John Beckman 1584 [1.5x]
17 Wendy Smith 1210 [1.5] : Paul Sanderson 982 [1]



And corrected standings (almost) after Round 7

1-2 Froehlich, Peter 2376 6
West, Guy 2369 6
3 Pyke, Malcolm 2005 5.5
4-5 Hislop, James K SA 2155 5
Kara, Barboros 1756 5
6-8 Skiotis, Pano 2050 4.5
Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 4.5
Fry, Peter VIC 1866 4.5
9-13 Ivanov, Nick 1469 4
Ly, Thai 1910 4
Beaumont, David VIC 1932 4
Beattie, Roger 1692 4
Fortin, Patrice 1600 4
14-19 Zileski, George 1743 3.5
Voon, Richard 1852 3.5
Mc Cart, Richard 1725 3.5
Papadinis, Jim 1831 3.5
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 3.5
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 3.5
20-27 Davenport, John VIC 1611 3
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 3
Brooking, Robert 1487 3
Kaplan, Alex 1636 3
Lovegrove, Adam 1445 3
Wojnar, Sebastian 1300 3
Henzgen, Ben 1146 3
Watson, Jean 959 3
28-30 Doon, Steven 1404 2.5
Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 2.5
Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 1.5x
31-33 Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1.5
Beckman, John 1584 1.5x
Smith, Wendy 1210 1.5
34 Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 1


Thanks for the tip Gattaca, used to do this but have forgotten to do so on here. Will try and remember in future.

Take care and God Bless you all, Macavity

Bereaved
14-10-2005, 05:05 AM
Hello, Everyone,

Just a short note to confirm that the above Round 8 pairings stand,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Oh, well, why not, here are the pairings again


Round 8

1 James K Hislop 2155 [5] : Peter Froehlich 2376 [6]
2 Barboros Kara 1756 [5] : Guy West 2369 [6]
3 Marcus Raine 1924 [4.5] : Malcolm Pyke 2005 [5.5]
4 Peter Fry 1866 [4.5] : Pano Skiotis 2050 [4.5]
5 David Beaumont 1932 [4] : Roger Beattie 1692 [4]
6 Patrice Fortin 1600 [4] : Nick Ivanov 1469 [4]
7 Thai Ly 1910 [4] : Jim Papadinis 1831 [3.5]
8 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [3.5] : Richard Voon 1852 [3.5]
9 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [3.5] : George Zileski 1743 [3.5]
10 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [3.5] : John Davenport 1611 [3]
11 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [3] : Alex Kaplan 1636 [3]
12 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [3] : Alec Knox 1526 [3]
13 Jean Watson 959 [3] : Ben Henzgen 1146 [3]
14 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5x] : Robert Brooking 1487 [3]
15 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [2.5] : Steven Doon 1404 [2.5]
16 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] : John Beckman 1584 [1.5x]
17 Wendy Smith 1210 [1.5] : Paul Sanderson 982 [1]

Bereaved
18-10-2005, 02:19 AM
Hello Everyone,

Here are the results from tonight (17/10/05),

Round 8 results


1 James K Hislop 2155 [5] 0:1 Peter Froehlich 2376 [6]
2 Barboros Kara 1756 [5] 0:1 Guy West 2369 [6]
3 Marcus Raine 1924 [4.5] 0:1 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [5.5]
4 Peter Fry 1866 [4.5] 1:0 Pano Skiotis 2050 [4.5]
5 David Beaumont 1932 [4] 1:0 Roger Beattie 1692 [4]
6 Patrice Fortin 1600 [4] 0:1 Nick Ivanov 1469 [4]
7 Thai Ly 1910 [4] 1:0 Jim Papadinis 1831 [3.5]
8 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [3.5] 0:1 Richard Voon 1852 [3.5]
9 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [3.5] 1:0 George Zileski 1743 [3.5]
10 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [3.5] .5:.5 John Davenport 1611 [3]
11 Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [3] 0:1 Alex Kaplan 1636 [3]
12 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [3] 0:1 Alec Knox 1526 [3]
13 Jean Watson 959 [3] 0:1 Ben Henzgen 1146 [3]
14 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [2.5] .5:.5 Robert Brooking 1487 [3]
15 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [2.5] +:- Steven Doon 1404 [2.5]
16 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] -:+ John Beckman 1584 [1.5]
17 Wendy Smith 1210 [1.5] +:- Paul Sanderson 982 [1]


and the postponed game was resolved this way,
16 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5] +:- John Beckman 1584 [.5]

Next...current standings

Bereaved
18-10-2005, 02:22 AM
Hello everyone,

Here are the current standings.



1-2 Froehlich, Peter 2376 7
West, Guy 2369 7
3 Pyke, Malcolm 2005 6.5
4 Fry, Peter VIC 1866 5.5
5-9 Hislop, James K SA 2155 5
Ivanov, Nick 1469 5
Kara, Barboros 1756 5
Beaumont, David VIC 1932 5
Ly, Thai 1910 5
10-13 Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 4.5
Skiotis, Pano 2050 4.5
Voon, Richard 1852 4.5
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 4.5
14-19 Beattie, Roger 1692 4
Mc Cart, Richard 1725 4
Kaplan, Alex 1636 4
Fortin, Patrice 1600 4
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 4
Henzgen, Ben 1146 4
20-25 Zileski, George 1743 3.5
Davenport, John VIC 1611 3.5
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 3.5
Papadinis, Jim 1831 3.5
Brooking, Robert 1487 3.5
Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 3.5
26-29 Wojnar, Sebastian 1300 3
Lovegrove, Adam 1445 3
Watson, Jean 959 3
Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 3
30-32 Beckman, John 1584 2.5
Doon, Steven 1404 2.5
Smith, Wendy 1210 2.5
33 Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1.5
34 Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 1


And last but not least...

Bereaved
18-10-2005, 09:22 PM
Hello everyone,

Sorry for the delay,

Here are the last round pairings and the result of the postponed game from Round 6.


Round 9 pairings

1 Guy West 2369 [7] : Peter Fry 1866 [5.5]
2 Peter Froehlich 2376 [7] : David Beaumont 1932 [5]
3 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [6.5] : Thai Ly 1910 [5]
4 James K Hislop 2155 [5] : Barboros Kara 1756 [5]
5 Nick Ivanov 1469 [5] : Marcus Raine 1924 [4.5]
6 Pano Skiotis 2050 [4.5] : Paul Kovacevic 1686 [4.5]
7 Richard Voon 1852 [4.5] : Richard Mc Cart 1725 [4]
8 Roger Beattie 1692 [4] : Patrice Fortin 1600 [4]
9 Alex Kaplan 1636 [4] : Alec Knox 1526 [4]
10 Ben Henzgen 1146 [4] : George Zileski 1743 [3.5]
11 Jim Papadinis 1831 [3.5] : Adel Ghobrial 1560 [3.5]
12 John Davenport 1611 [3.5] : Robert Brooking 1487 [3.5]
13 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [3.5] : Steven Doon 1404 [2.5]
14 Jean Watson 959 [3] : Adam Lovegrove 1445 [3]
15 Wendy Smith 1210 [2.5] : Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [3]
16 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] : Sebastian Wojnar 1300 [3]


Round 6 postponed game
16 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5] +:- John Beckman 1584 [.5]


Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Oh and will post the prizes and categories in a little while, must check with Greg Gatto.

Bereaved
19-10-2005, 01:03 AM
Hello everyone,

First I'll publish the field showing the breakup of categories




1. Froehlich, Peter 2376
2. West, Guy 2369
3. Hislop, James K SA 2155
4. Skiotis, Pano 2050
5. Pyke, Malcolm 2005
6. Beaumont, David VIC 1932
7. Raine, Marcus VIC 1924
8. Ly, Thai 1910
9. Fry, Peter VIC 1866
10. Voon, Richard 1852
11. Papadinis, Jim 1831
12. Kara, Barboros 1756
13. Zileski, George 1743
14. Mc Cart, Richard 1725
15. Beattie, Roger 1692
16. Kovacevic, Paul 1686
17. Kaplan, Alex 1636
18. Davenport, John VIC 1611
19. Fortin, Patrice 1600p
20. Beckman, John 1584
21. Ghobrial, Adel 1560
22. Knox, Alec VIC 1526
23. Brooking, Robert 1487
24. Ivanov, Nikola 1469
25. Lovegrove, Adam 1445
26. Doon, Steven 1404
27. Cutting, Luke ACT 1365
28. Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364
29. Wojnar, Sebastian 1300p
30. Smith, Wendy 1210
31. Henzgen, Ben 1146
32. Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033
33. Sanderson, Paul VIC 982
34. Watson, Jean 959

Seeds 1-8 = Open

1st $400
2nd $300
3rd $200

Seeds 9-17 = A; $100 best score

Seeds 18-25 = B; $80 best score

Seeds 26-34 = C; $50 best score

So now a revue of standings in each group

Open

Peter Froehlich and Guy West on 7/8 are leading, followed by Malcolm Pyke on 6.5/8, Peter Fry on 5.5/8, and a group of players on 5/8 including James Hislop, David Beaumont, Barboros Kara, Nikola Ivanov and Thai Ly

In the second group (A), leading scores are Peter Fry on 5.5/8, followed by Barboros Kara and Thai Ly on 5/8, and then Richard Voon and Paul Kovacevic on 4.5/8

In the third group (B), leading scores are Nikola Ivanov on 5(!)/8 :clap: , followed by Patrice Fortin ( from Canada ), and Alec Knox, both with 4/8. Nikola has at least equal first in this group sewn up.

In the fourth group (C), the leading scores are Ben Henzgen on 4/8, followed by Emanuel Ruzeu on 3.5/8, and then Sebastian Wojnar ( from Poland ), Jean Luc Tambasco, and Jean Watson on 3/8.


Anyway, sorry for the delay in getting these details out into the public, but I have not been told before now.

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

I will be starting a new thread on the next Melbourne event, the Fitzroy Open, once this is up online.

Altecman
19-10-2005, 10:32 AM
How many rounds are in the Melbourne Open?

Rincewind
19-10-2005, 10:38 AM
How many rounds are in the Melbourne Open?

9

http://chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=67824&postcount=1

Bereaved
22-10-2005, 01:38 AM
Note: replication of Tournament Post for Fitzroy Open 2005 to ensure not missed by interested parties - macavity

Melbourne Chess Club Fitzroy Open 2005

Hello Everyone,

We are fast approaching the end of the Melbourne Chess Club Open, with only one more round to go. After that we have a week off for the Melbourne Cup weekend ( when there is some tournament in Elwood I believe…hmmm should consider playing!!!). :owned: :owned:

After that the next event to be run at Melbourne is the Fitzroy Open. This is an event akin to the Dandenong Grades, or Box Hill Rainbow Championships, with the players playing within a pool of 8 like rated players, who play a round robin event.

Each division has a separate set of prizes and they are equal in all divisions (obviously!!) .The advantage of these types of events is the avoidance of the swiss nightmare :wall: :wall: ( winning in alternate rounds) owing to vastly different strength of opponents. Here a player can feel competitive in each round that they play, and hope to place in their group.

Although not expressly decided on at this point, I would imagine the first prize in all groups would be at least $80, or basically double the entry fee.

The event is open to non members, and we would welcome any enquiries that people had about the event to be; a) posted here, and I will attempt to answer them; b) PM me and I will perhaps be able to provide more specific information, or to register your entry with me; c) call the Melbourne Chess Club on (03) 9416 3149 and speak to president Greg Gatto, or one of the other duty officers; or finally d) call vice president Malcolm Pyke on 0408 150196, or email him at dexter@labyrinth.net.au

Below are the details of this event, specifying time of play, address of venue, time controls and entry fees.

Fitzroy Open 8 player round robin events

Venue: Melbourne Chess Club, 66 Leicester Street, Fitzroy 3065;
ph (03) 9416 3149 Melways Reference: 2C, A5


Schedule


Monday 07/11/05
Entries Close: 6.00 pm
Round 1: 7.00 pm

Monday 14/11/05
Round 2: 7.00 pm

Monday 21/11/05
Round 3: 7.00 pm

Monday 28/11/05
Round 4: 7.00 pm

Monday 05/12/05
Round 5: 7.00 pm

Monday 12/12/05
Round 6: 7.00 pm

(Saturday 17/12/05 Day 1 MCC Christmas Swiss)
(Sunday 18/12/05 Day 2 MCC Christmas Swiss)

Monday 19/12/05
Round 7: 7.00 pm

Time Controls: 60 minutes + 60 seconds per move from move 1. Players are required to record throughout the whole game.


Entry fees

$40 working,
$30 non-working (appropriate ID must be shown)
less $5 MCC members

Hoping to see you all, take care and God Bless, Macavity

Bereaved
25-10-2005, 01:47 AM
Hello, Everyone,

The Melbourne Chess Club Open concluded on Monday 24th October.

Guy West and Peter Froehlich shared 1st place with 8/9, followed by Malcolm Pyke with 3rd on 7.5/9.

Here is the last round


Round 9 results

1 Guy West 2369 [7] 1:0 Peter Fry 1866 [5.5]
2 Peter Froehlich 2376 [7] 1:0 David Beaumont 1932 [5]
3 Malcolm Pyke 2005 [6.5] 1:0 Thai Ly 1910 [5]
4 James K Hislop 2155 [5] 1:0 Barboros Kara 1756 [5]
5 Nick Ivanov 1469 [5] 0:1 Marcus Raine 1924 [4.5]
6 Pano Skiotis 2050 [4.5] 1:0 Paul Kovacevic 1686 [4.5]
7 Richard Voon 1852 [4.5] 1:0 Richard Mc Cart 1725 [4]
8 Roger Beattie 1692 [4] 1:0 Patrice Fortin [4]
9 Alex Kaplan 1636 [4] .5:.5 Alec Knox 1526 [4]
10 Ben Henzgen 1146 [4] 0:1 George Zileski 1743 [3.5]
11 Jim Papadinis 1831 [3.5] .5:.5 Adel Ghobrial 1560 [3.5]
12 John Davenport 1611 [3.5] .5:.5 Robert Brooking 1487 [3.5]
13 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [3.5] +:- Steven Doon 1404 [2.5]
14 Jean Watson 959 [3] .5:.5 Adam Lovegrove 1445 [3]
15 Wendy Smith 1210 [2.5] .5:.5 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [3]
16 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] -:+ Sebastian Wojnar [3]




and the final standings:

1-2 Froehlich, Peter 2376 8
West, Guy 2369 8
3 Pyke, Malcolm 2005 7.5
4 Hislop, James K SA 2155 6
5-8 Skiotis, Pano 2050 5.5
Raine, Marcus VIC 1924 5.5
Fry, Peter VIC 1866 5.5
Voon, Richard 1852 5.5
9-13 Beaumont, David VIC 1932 5
Ivanov, Nick 1469 5
Kara, Barboros 1756 5
Ly, Thai 1910 5
Beattie, Roger 1692 5
14-18 Zileski, George 1743 4.5
Kovacevic, Paul 1686 4.5
Kaplan, Alex 1636 4.5
Knox, Alec VIC 1526 4.5
Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 4.5
19-26 Mc Cart, Richard 1725 4
Ghobrial, Adel 1560 4
Davenport, John VIC 1611 4
Fortin, Patrice 4
Papadinis, Jim 1831 4
Wojnar, Sebastian 4
Brooking, Robert 1487 4
Henzgen, Ben 1146 4
27-29 Lovegrove, Adam 1445 3.5
Watson, Jean 959 3.5
Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 3.5
30 Smith, Wendy 1210 3
31-32 Doon, Steven 1404 2.5
Beckman, John 1584 2.5
33 Cutting, Luke ACT 1365 1.5
34 Sanderson, Paul VIC 982 1


I will post the crosstable now:in score order


No Name Loc Total 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

1 Froehlich, Peter 2376 8 21:W 8:W 7:W 10:W 2:D 3:D 6:W 4:W 9:W
2 West, Guy 2369 8 18:W 14:W 3:D 6:W 1:D 5:W 12:W 11:W 7:W
3 Pyke, Malcolm 2005 7.5 25:W 15:W 2:D 7:W 4:W 1:D 5:D 6:W 12:W
4 Hislop, James K 2155 6 22:W 19:D 9:W 5:D 3:L 23:W 10:W 1:L 11:W
5 Skiotis, Pano 2050 5.5 20:W 13:W 6:D 4:D 14:W 2:L 3:D 7:L 15:W
6 Raine, Marcus 1924 5.5 17:W 33:W 5:D 2:L 19:W 11:W 1:L 3:L 10:W
7 Fry, Peter 1866 5.5 28:W 24:W 1:L 3:L 17:D 16:W 14:W 5:W 2:L
8 Voon, Richard 1852 5.5 27:W 1:L 16:D 15:W 13:D 12:L 9:D 20:W 19:W
9 Beaumont, David 1932 5 16:W 10:L 4:L 33:W 21:W 14:D 8:D 13:W 1:L
10 Ivanov, Nick 1469 5 12:W 9:W 19:W 1:L 11:L 15:W 4:L 22:W 6:L
11 Kara, Barboros 1756 5 24:L 27:W 20:W 12:W 10:W 6:L 13:+ 2:L 4:L
12 Ly, Thai 1910 5 10:L 32:W 21:W 11:L 20:W 8:W 2:L 23:W 3:L
13 Beattie, Roger 1692 5 30:W 5:L 25:D 26:W 8:D 19:W 11:- 9:L 22:W
14 Zileski, George 1743 4.5 31:W 2:L 17:W 23:W 5:L 9:D 7:L 15:L 26:W
15 Kovacevic, Paul 1686 4.5 34:W 3:L 24:W 8:L 31:W 10:L 23:D 14:W 5:L
16 Kaplan, Alex 1636 4.5 9:L 31:W 8:D 21:L 28:W 7:L 20:D 24:W 17:D
17 Knox, Alec 1526 4.5 6:L 34:W 14:L 24:W 7:D 22:L 28:D 27:W 16:D
18 Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 4.5 2:L 21:L 34:W 20:L 30:W 25:D 19:L 31:+ 31:+
19 Mc Cart, Richard 1725 4 29:W 4:D 10:L 25:W 6:L 13:L 18:W 21:D 8:L
20 Ghobrial, Adel 1560 4 5:L 29:+ 11:L 18:W 12:L 26:W 16:D 8:L 23:D
21 Davenport, John 1611 4 1:L 18:W 12:L 16:W 9:L 24:W 22:L 19:D 25:D
22 Fortin, Patrice 4 4:L 30:W 23:L 27:L 32:W 17:W 21:W 10:L 13:L
23 Papadinis, Jim 1831 4 33:L 26:W 22:W 14:L 27:W 4:L 15:D 12:L 20:D
24 Wojnar, Sebastian 4 11:W 7:L 15:L 17:L 34:W 21:L 31:W 16:L 33:+
25 Brooking, Robert 1487 4 3:L 28:W 13:D 19:L 26:D 18:D 27:D 29:D 21:D
26 Henzgen, Ben 1146 4 32:D 23:L 33:W 13:L 25:D 20:L 29:W 28:W 14:L
27 Lovegrove, Adam 1445 3.5 8:L 11:L 32:W 22:W 23:L 31:D 25:D 17:L 28:D
28 Watson, Jean 959 3.5 7:L 25:L 30:D 32:W 16:L 33:W 17:D 26:L 27:D
29 Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 3.5 19:L 20:- 31:L 34:W 33:D 32:+ 26:L 25:D 30:D
30 Smith, Wendy 1210 3 13:L 22:L 28:D 31:L 18:L 34:+ 32:L 34:+ 29:D
31 Doon, Steven 1404 2.5 14:L 16:L 29:W 30:W 15:L 27:D 24:L 18:- 18:-
32 Beckman, John 1584 2.5 26:D 12:L 27:L 28:L 22:L 29:- 30:W 33:+ 0:
33 Cutting, Luke 1365 1.5 23:W 6:L 26:L 9:L 29:D 28:L 34:- 32:- 24:-
34 Sanderson, Paul 982 1 15:L 17:L 18:L 29:L 24:L 30:- 33:+ 30:- 0:



And in start order:


No Name Loc Total 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

1. Froehlich, Peter 2376 8 18:W 10:W 9:W 24:W 2:D 5:D 7:W 3:W 6:W
2. West, Guy 2369 8 28:W 13:W 5:D 7:W 1:D 4:W 8:W 12:W 9:W
3. Hislop, James K 2155 6 19:W 14:D 6:W 4:D 5:L 11:W 24:W 1:L 12:W
4. Skiotis, Pano 2050 5.5 21:W 15:W 7:D 3:D 13:W 2:L 5:D 9:L 16:W
5. Pyke, Malcolm 2005 7.5 23:W 16:W 2:D 9:W 3:W 1:D 4:D 7:W 8:W
6. Beaumont, David 1932 5 17:W 24:L 3:L 27:W 18:W 13:D 10:D 15:W 1:L
7. Raine, Marcus 1924 5.5 22:W 27:W 4:D 2:L 14:W 12:W 1:L 5:L 24:W
8. Ly, Thai 1910 5 24:L 20:W 18:W 12:L 21:W 10:W 2:L 11:W 5:L
9. Fry, Peter 1866 5.5 34:W 29:W 1:L 5:L 22:D 17:W 13:W 4:W 2:L
10. Voon, Richard 1852 5.5 25:W 1:L 17:D 16:W 15:D 8:L 6:D 21:W 14:W
11. Papadinis, Jim 1831 4 27:L 31:W 19:W 13:L 25:W 3:L 16:D 8:L 21:D
12. Kara, Barboros 1756 5 29:L 25:W 21:W 8:W 24:W 7:L 15:+ 2:L 3:L
13. Zileski, George 1743 4.5 26:W 2:L 22:W 11:W 4:L 6:D 9:L 16:L 31:W
14. Mc Cart, Richard 1725 4 32:W 3:D 24:L 23:W 7:L 15:L 28:W 18:D 10:L
15. Beattie, Roger 1692 5 30:W 4:L 23:D 31:W 10:D 14:W 12:- 6:L 19:W
16. Kovacevic, Paul 1686 4.5 33:W 5:L 29:W 10:L 26:W 24:L 11:D 13:W 4:L
17. Kaplan, Alex 1636 4.5 6:L 26:W 10:D 18:L 34:W 9:L 21:D 29:W 22:D
18. Davenport, John 1611 4 1:L 28:W 8:L 17:W 6:L 29:W 19:L 14:D 23:D
19. Fortin, Patrice 4 3:L 30:W 11:L 25:L 20:W 22:W 18:W 24:L 15:L
20. Beckman, John 1584 2.5 31:D 8:L 25:L 34:L 19:L 32:- 30:W 27:+ :
21. Ghobrial, Adel 1560 4 4:L 32:+ 12:L 28:W 8:L 31:W 17:D 10:L 11:D
22. Knox, Alec 1526 4.5 7:L 33:W 13:L 29:W 9:D 19:L 34:D 25:W 17:D
23. Brooking, Robert 1487 4 5:L 34:W 15:D 14:L 31:D 28:D 25:D 32:D 18:D
24. Ivanov, Nick 1469 5 8:W 6:W 14:W 1:L 12:L 16:W 3:L 19:W 7:L
25. Lovegrove, Adam 1445 3.5 10:L 12:L 20:W 19:W 11:L 26:D 23:D 22:L 34:D
26. Doon, Steven 1404 2.5 13:L 17:L 32:W 30:W 16:L 25:D 29:L 28:- 28:-
27. Cutting, Luke 1365 1.5 11:W 7:L 31:L 6:L 32:D 34:L 33:- 20:- 29:-
28. Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 4.5 2:L 18:L 33:W 21:L 30:W 23:D 14:L 26:+ 26:+
29. Wojnar, Sebastian 4 12:W 9:L 16:L 22:L 33:W 18:L 26:W 17:L 27:+
30. Smith, Wendy 1210 3 15:L 19:L 34:D 26:L 28:L 33:+ 20:L 33:+ 32:D
31. Henzgen, Ben 1146 4 20:D 11:L 27:W 15:L 23:D 21:L 32:W 34:W 13:L
32. Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 3.5 14:L 21:- 26:L 33:W 27:D 20:+ 31:L 23:D 30:D
33. Sanderson, Paul 982 1 16:L 22:L 28:L 32:L 29:L 30:- 27:+ 30:- :
34. Watson, Jean 959 3.5 9:L 23:L 30:D 20:W 17:L 27:W 22:D 31:L 25:D


Remember that the Fitzroy Open is starting on Monday 7th November, with the chance to win a tournament for most of the players, with the 8 player, 7 round robin format. As previously said, all are welcome!

Oh and for the sake of providing information worthy of debate, here is how players in the tournament would have their rating change according to ELO. Would be interesting to see how it bears out with the Glicko system used in Australia?? hmmm


No Name Feder Loc Id Loc Score Exp. Chg*K Rav Rprfm

1. Froehlich, Peter 2376 8.0/9 8.55 -6 1909 2260
2. West, Guy 2369 8.0/9 8.55 -6 1888 2239
3. Hislop, James K SA 5192566 2155 5.0/8 6.56 -16 1893 1988
4. Skiotis, Pano 2050 5.5/9 6.39 -9 1889 1969
5. Pyke, Malcolm 2005 7.5/9 4.77 27 1980 2253
6. Beaumont, David VIC 3096224 1932 5.0/9 6.48 -15 1767 1810
7. Raine, Marcus VIC 3082655 1924 5.5/9 5.40 1 1849 1929
8. Ly, Thai 1910 5.0/9 6.03 -10 1782 1825
9. Fry, Peter VIC 3074911 1866 4.5/8 4.40 1 1833 1876
10. Voon, Richard 1852 5.5/9 5.49 0 1774 1854
11. Papadinis, Jim 1831 3.0/8 6.08 -31 1626 1539
12. Kara, Barboros 1756 4.0/7 2.73 13 1833 1883
13. Zileski, George 1743 4.5/9 4.32 2 1757 1757
14. Mc Cart, Richard 1725 4.0/9 5.76 -18 1621 1578
15. Beattie, Roger 1692 4.0/7 4.13 -1 1629 1679
16. Kovacevic, Paul 1686 3.5/8 4.24 -7 1667 1624
17. Kaplan, Alex 1636 3.5/8 4.56 -11 1589 1546
18. Davenport, John VIC 3073161 1611 3.0/7 1.96 10 1776 1726
19. Fortin, Patrice 4.0/9 1614 1571
20. Beckman, John 1584 1.5/5 4.05 -26 1334 1185
21. Ghobrial, Adel 1560 3.0/8 2.56 4 1693 1606
22. Knox, Alec VIC 3078503 1526 3.5/7 3.71 -2 1508 1508
23. Brooking, Robert 1487 4.0/9 5.04 -10 1442 1399
24. Ivanov, Nick 1469 4.0/8 0.40 36 1933 1933
25. Lovegrove, Adam 1445 2.5/8 2.88 -4 1550 1409
26. Doon, Steven 1404 2.5/6 2.52 0 1459 1402
27. Cutting, Luke ACT 1292076 1365 1.5/6 2.16 -7 1471 1278
28. Ruzeu, Emanuel 1364 2.5/7 1.68 8 1563 1461
29. Wojnar, Sebastian 3.0/8 1558 1471
30. Smith, Wendy 1210 1.0/6 1.98 -10 1339 1066
31. Henzgen, Ben 1146 4.0/9 1.17 28 1473 1430
32. Tambasco, Jean-Luc 1033 2.5/7 1.05 15 1331 1229
33. Sanderson, Paul VIC 3101861 982 0.0/4 0.28 -3 1402 403
34. Watson, Jean 959 3.5/9 0.36 31 1474 1394



Take care all and God Bless, Macavity

Bereaved
25-10-2005, 05:24 AM
Hello Watto,




Quote:
Originally Posted by four four two
That sounds like a crazy rule,I mean can't he forfeit again and give Miranda a decisive advantage?

Originally posted By Watto
We’ve just had this situation in the MCC Open- a player forfeiting twice to the same player. It’s had no decisive impact on results and definitely wasn’t a deliberate ploy on the part of either player. The person who was supposedly advanted by the forfeits probably found them more disappointing than anything.

It’s apparently well within the rules but it still seems a little nutty to me. And I can't really believe it would occur at the top end of a tournament so can't be a generally applied rule.

Should add... in fairness to the organisers of the MCC Open- who do a great job- there have been quite a few forfeits and withdrawals at the bottom end which must have caused them some difficulty in relation to pairings.


Thank you Watto, :D

It is nice to see someone thinks we do an ok job. The issue of forfeits is upsetting though. I recall an event I played in where my opponent postponed a game of chess with me to ...you guessed it, play a game of chess somewhere else.

That is bad enough, but the issue of forfeits is very difficult, however one looks at it. Bill Jordan once proposed the idea that forfeits should be rated; it would dissuade people from making a practice of doing so, as the visible results of the games being rated,. ie rating drop, is something they couldn't fail to notice.

There is also the issue of the person sitting there for an hour wondering if the opponent will turn up; I wonder at times whether there should be a shorter cut off point, but it is really hard to change this one, as the tradition has been to have an hour before forfeit; an hour from the start of scheduled starting time: ie 7.00 pm at Melbourne; Consider: White arrives at the board at 7.59 pm bolts in makes a move and presses his clock before 8 is reached on the clock above the telephone, he would be allowed to continue the game against his bored opponent who has sat there for nearly the full hour, grumpy about not having anyone to play with, when everyone else has their games going` etc

But if we add into the consideration that Black is not and has not been present at the club since the start of play; and they walk in hot on the heels of Mr 7.59 pm, and the telephone clock clearly shows that it is 8.00 pm or more, they are deemed to be lost on forfeit. ( possibly good grounds for appeal in this case would be the fact that the clocks read very much like play started late as the combined elapsed time is less than one hour.)

Crazy isn't it?

In sequence this is the progresion of rounds featured in the Melbourne Chess Club Open, and numbers of forfeits.


Round 1 (0)

Round 2 (1)

Round 3 (0)

Round 4 (0)

Round 5 (0)

Round 6 (2)

Round 7 (2)

Round 8 (3)

Round 9 (2)

These are the games that were forfeits in one box.

Round 2

15 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [0] -:+ Adel Ghobrial 1560 [0]

Round 6

16 Jean-Luc Tambasco 1033 [1.5] +:- John Beckman 1584 [.5]
17 Wendy Smith 1210 [.5] +:- Paul Sanderson 982 [0]

Round 7

5 Barboros Kara 1756 [4] +:- Roger Beattie 1692 [4]
17 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] -:+ Paul Sanderson 982 [0]

Round 8

15 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [2.5] +:- Steven Doon 1404 [2.5]
16 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] -:+ John Beckman 1584 [1.5]
17 Wendy Smith 1210 [1.5] +:- Paul Sanderson 982 [1]

Round 9

13 Emanuel Ruzeu 1364 [3.5] +:- Steven Doon 1404 [2.5]
16 Luke Cutting 1365 [1.5] -:+ Sebastian Wojnar [3]


A toal of ten games in the tournament decided on forfeit, but still far too many in my regard. It detracts from any tournament to win a game on forfeit, it is one less game that we get to play. How more disappointing that there seemed to be regular offenders.

The club has discussed what form of action to take in the case of some of those listed. But something must be done at some point or these things get out of hand.

And as far as Re-pairings...

Actually Watto I'll show you something to make you believe.


:beard:* Once upon a time, :owned:
I played an event in which while on 5/5, I was unable to play in Round 6, and my opponent and I could not reach an agreement on when to play, and I forfeited to them, increasing their score to I think the same as mine now, both on 5/6 and no one else's scores were close enough and we were re-paired on Board 1. So it does happen.

Take care and God Bless, Macavity.

* (couldn't find one even close to storyteller)!!

ursogr8
25-10-2005, 08:24 AM
<snip>


A toal of ten games in the tournament decided on forfeit, but still far too many in my regard. It detracts from any tournament to win a game on forfeit, it is one less game that we get to play. How more disappointing that there seemed to be regular offenders.

The club has discussed what form of action to take in the case of some of those listed. But something must be done at some point or these things get out of hand.

<snip>

hi mac

Even though your post was addressed to Watto, I spied something I would like to make a suggestion on on. Hope this OK?

How about intorducing the tournament conditions
> a player not at the board within 15 minutes of the start will be substituted by a suitable by-stander (clocks re-set of course), ((unless a phone call advising of lateness is made to the Club before the scheduled start of play))
> if the late-player is still a no-show at the end of the hour he/she is withdrawn from the next round paitings unless contact with the Arbiter is made.

starter

Watto
25-10-2005, 10:44 AM
Thanks for that post macavity. :)

I suppose one other factor to take into account is that forfeits would tend not to occur at the stronger end quite as much, so, even if opponents are paired again, the absurdity of a double forfeit doesn’t arise as often.

Anyway, I was lucky to play 9 opponents in this one and really enjoyed it. Much better than my last one a couple of months ago where ironically a forfeit in the final round spared me the indignity of losing 5 out of 5! Although it wasn’t a rated point, I remember being ridiculously grateful for it at the time… it may have even saved me from an early retirement from chess. ;)

Cheers,
Watto

Ian Rout
25-10-2005, 11:04 AM
Bill Jordan once proposed the idea that forfeits should be rated; it would dissuade people from making a practice of doing so, as the visible results of the games being rated,. ie rating drop, is something they couldn't fail to notice.
The problem with this, in additon to distorting the ratings, is that it punishes the innocent more than the guilty. The forfeiter, being under-rated, will get the points back through the normal self-correcting mechanisms of the ratings, but at the expense of other people. In the meantime the forfeiter is eleigible for rating group prizes.

At the other end of the scale, people who had to play their games fall behind the player who picked up the free points - possibly not great compensation for that player, but not satisfactory for the other players.

There are plenty of options if there is a desire to take a hard line. These include booting the offender from the event or suspending them from a certain number of rounds or from future events, or requiring serial offenders to put up a forfeit bond which will only be returned if they attend all their games.

Libby
25-10-2005, 01:22 PM
Being the ever-intolerant Nazi I am, I have no time at all for the way chess deals with late arrivals & forfeits.

There is far too much tolerance for what is just rude, disorganised & inconsiderate - especially in the mobile phone age.

If you sign up for an event you know both what time the games start & when they are to be played.

IMHO - feel free to ignore -

1. Players must notify someone in advance of the starting time if they are unavailable to play or have reason to be late.

2. Clocks start on time, irrespective of the number of players who have turned up.

3. "No-shows" have grace of less than 30mins. Nobody should have to sit around wondering if they are going to play or not. I'd prefer grace of less than 15mins before they get forfeited personally.

4. Players who forfeit are assumed to have withdrawn.

I'm happy to acknowledge the occasional emergency or traffic chaos but most forfeits seem to be just a demonstration of bad manners or ineptitude and most organisers (not all) seem happy to pander to it.

Get organised. People have busy lives. If you're worried about people finding time to play chess at a club you could look at the advantages (at every level) of starting on time and knowing you will get a game every week.

I'm sick to death of it. I (half) understand it in the first round of an event/weekender but I have no idea why it has to be the norm.

The most pathetic ones (and they seem to happen at many weekenders) are those who don't like their results so they just don't turn up on the second day and can't do anyone the courtesy of actually withdrawing.

If you don't turn up for your basketball game, you just forfeit. You lose, they win. They have a short grace period and if you don't have a team - tough. They will let you play with 4 (against 5) but they hit you then with a points penalty as well so you lose becuse you are 4 on 5 and you lose because they have docked your team 10 points before you even start. Then, if you cop a hiding, you lose on the percentages as well.

Get with the program. Turning up on time (or near to) and letting people know if you can't, is a simple matter of being a courteous adult.

jay_vee
25-10-2005, 07:44 PM
4. Players who forfeit are assumed to have withdrawn.

...unless they have an exceptionally good reason, in which case I would consider re-instating them. But why on earth would you pair someone (e.g. Luke Cutting above) who hasn't shown up for the last two rounds (7+8) already for the next round (9)? Three consecutive forfeits is a disgrace for both the player and the person responsible for the pairings.

Denis_Jessop
25-10-2005, 08:44 PM
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1. Players must notify someone in advance of the starting time if they are unavailable to play or have reason to be late.

2. Clocks start on time, irrespective of the number of players who have turned up.

3. "No-shows" have grace of less than 30mins. Nobody should have to sit around wondering if they are going to play or not. I'd prefer grace of less than 15mins before they get forfeited personally.

4. Players who forfeit are assumed to have withdrawn.

<snip>



Most of these are all good points that arbiters and organisers should enforce.

Re 1. Any courteous player should do this though there are occasions when it is impossible. I had one a couple of years ago when a player was driving back to Canberra from Sydney and his car broke down. I'm not sure what the mobile phone situation was then but there is always the problem that once play has begun all mobiles should be turned off and I suppose that includes the arbiter's.

Re 2. This is always my aim. If you do it once, then next round players are miraculously ready on time.

Re 3. You may have to take on FIDE on this one. There was a proposal to reduce the "one hour" prescribed by Art 6.7 of the FIDE Laws to 30 minutes put to this year's FIDE Congress but it was defeated. Art 6.7 is a bit ambiguous. It reads:

"6.7

Any player who arrives at the chessboard more than one hour after the scheduled start of the session shall lose the game unless the rules of the competition specify or the arbiter decides otherwise."

I'm not sure if this means that the rules of the competition or the arbiter can reduce the "one hour" or only excuse or limit the penalty for non-compliance. I suspect the latter is intended.

Re 4. This is already in the FIDE Swiss Rules as follows:

"F.8

Players who are absent during a round without notification to the arbiter will be considered to have withdrawn themselves."

For club events I usually add a rider to the effect that it applies unless the player had a reasonable excuse so as to cover last minute emergencies in respect of which the rule seems rather harsh otherwise. Strict enforcement is all very well but it needs sometimes to be tempered especially if the result is likely to be the loss of a club member in unfair circumstances. Good judgment is needed in these cases.

DJ

Bereaved
25-10-2005, 10:44 PM
Hello everyone,

I thank you all for your sudden upswell of interest in the Melbourne Chess Club Open. Would you like to start, or have split this discussion into some alternative thread on Penalties for Forfeiting games, or some such, because the discussions that you are having in this thread are rapidly moving further and further away from any relevance to the tournament itself. If you want to talk about the event in question, that would be lovely, but that does not seem to be happening as of the last post I made to any marked extent, or very peripherally.

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Libby
26-10-2005, 11:16 AM
Most of these are all good points that arbiters and organisers should enforce.

Re 1. Any courteous player should do this though there are occasions when it is impossible. I had one a couple of years ago when a player was driving back to Canberra from Sydney and his car broke down. I'm not sure what the mobile phone situation was then but there is always the problem that once play has begun all mobiles should be turned off and I suppose that includes the arbiter's.

I understand this Denis but again - where else does it apply? If your car breaks down and you don't make your footy grand final - you don't play. Bad luck. In fact, if you can't get there and the team doesn't have enough players to take the field - you just lose.

It's sad, unfortunate etc but I don't think it warrants the degree of leniency extended to most players. Strangely, in many sports where multiple games may be played in one day or evening, they just don't extend any leniency at all because if they let you start late then every game will be late that follows. So if you are playing in that sort of competition it's on-time or not-at-all. So why are chess players the ones who just can't read a watch or honour a commitment?

I should have added that in real emergencies or unforseeable events I would be happy to reinstate a withdrawn player to a tournament but I tend to think that when the round has passed and been played by everyone else - if you forfeit, you just forfeit. And if it costs you the tournament you just might have to get over it. Like everyone else has to.

Denis_Jessop
26-10-2005, 03:38 PM
I understand this Denis but again - where else does it apply? If your car breaks down and you don't make your footy grand final - you don't play. Bad luck. In fact, if you can't get there and the team doesn't have enough players to take the field - you just lose.

It's sad, unfortunate etc but I don't think it warrants the degree of leniency extended to most players. Strangely, in many sports where multiple games may be played in one day or evening, they just don't extend any leniency at all because if they let you start late then every game will be late that follows. So if you are playing in that sort of competition it's on-time or not-at-all. So why are chess players the ones who just can't read a watch or honour a commitment?

I should have added that in real emergencies or unforseeable events I would be happy to reinstate a withdrawn player to a tournament but I tend to think that when the round has passed and been played by everyone else - if you forfeit, you just forfeit. And if it costs you the tournament you just might have to get over it. Like everyone else has to.

I think we may both be saying the same thing here but not until now has it become clear. If someone doesn't turn up for no matter what reason, at least in a Swiss, they forfeit that game. The only question as far as I am concerned is whether they are also excluded from the tournament. To use your analogy (though I'm not sure it's the best one) if a player doesn't turn up for the grand final does that mean they are not to be allowed to play next season? Or perhaps a better one: if a player misses a game without notice during the season does that mean that the player will be excluded from the team for the rest of the season? Shades of Andrew Walker?

DJ

firegoat7
27-10-2005, 11:46 AM
...unless they have an exceptionally good reason, in which case I would consider re-instating them. But why on earth would you pair someone (e.g. Luke Cutting above) who hasn't shown up for the last two rounds (7+8) already for the next round (9)? Three consecutive forfeits is a disgrace for both the player and the person responsible for the pairings.

This arguement is irrelevent and academic.

The simple fact is Cutting was at the bottom of the pool and that having a bye would have been almost exactly the same result. Its not a disgrace since the player would have recieved a bye anyway.

By the way I believe not showing up for a game ought to be rated. Clearly your opponent did not have enough strength to even get there. :owned:

The rating prizemoney, sandbagging problem, suggested by Ian Rout is not a seroius problem for ratings. It is a serious problem for prizemoney. There is a difference. For instance, instead of banning players the ACF could make it official policy to allow forfeiters to enter tournaments, but not allow them to win any prizemoney, for a period, specified by the ACF. :idea:

cheers Fg7