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Trent Parker
05-08-2005, 09:19 AM
.....Is this weekend.

Notice venue is at different place to previous tourneys

This time it is at a Bridge club at Broadmeadow.....

Mischa
05-08-2005, 10:33 AM
you playing Trent?
Look for James!

Trent Parker
05-08-2005, 11:22 AM
you playing Trent?
Look for James!


Yep i'll be there.... :D

gunna log off and do some study :D

Bereaved
06-08-2005, 01:11 PM
Hi TCN, or anyone else with news from Coal city,

How many have arrived to play? Top seed/s?

Scores?

Take care and God Bless Macavity

Oh, PS Website??

Mischa
06-08-2005, 03:56 PM
All I know is James is 2 out of 2. The first round against a 1000 and he was lucky to win...only did so cos the other guy made one more mistake than James did.
The second win was to the third seed...a 2000
His next game is against a Russian woman also rated above 2000....he won't be able to use the element of surprise!

Rincewind
06-08-2005, 04:02 PM
The second win was to the third seed...a 2000

:clap: Well done, James. :clap:

Bill Gletsos
06-08-2005, 04:46 PM
His next game is against a Russian woman also rated above 2000....he won't be able to use the element of surprise!I suspect that may be Aina Musaeva rated 2094 FIDE.

antichrist
06-08-2005, 05:25 PM
All I know is James is 2 out of 2. The first round against a 1000 and he was lucky to win...only did so cos the other guy made one more mistake than James did.
The second win was to the third seed...a 2000
His next game is against a Russian woman also rated above 2000....he won't be able to use the element of surprise!

Get him to keep whispering "Bolshie" under his breath - that will surprise her.

Bereaved
06-08-2005, 06:34 PM
Hello everyone,

If the third seed was 2000, and Musaeva is 2094, is she the top seed or is that someone else?

That young lad Morris, he appears to be going ahead leaps and bounds; he must be a source of pride to his parents!

Take care all, and God Bless, Macavity

Bill Gletsos
06-08-2005, 06:38 PM
Hello everyone,

If the third seed was 2000, and Museava is 2094, is she the top seed or is that someone else?I took Mischa's post to mean the third seed was over 2000 not exactly 2000. I also noted that in the following sentence she said he is due to play a woman who is also over 2000.

antichrist
06-08-2005, 06:58 PM
I took Mischa's post to mean the third seed was over 2000 not exactly 2000. I also noted that in the following sentence she said he is due to play a woman who is also over 2000.

Is that equal to a male's 2000 - or a Claytons or should I say a Clairs

Bereaved
06-08-2005, 08:28 PM
Dear everybody ( but especially Bill ),

I must be unable to be comprehended, but if we consider the two players mentioned so far as being two of the top three seeds, I was just wanting to know who was the third of these three. I guess that asking for the specifics of the seeding order is unnecessary as I guess I can figure that out for myself,

all the best, and God Bless, Malcolm

Mischa
06-08-2005, 08:37 PM
Anyway
he didn't play her
He played Mx and lost
max
says he was winning as we all were but blundered

Bill Gletsos
06-08-2005, 08:50 PM
Dear everybody ( but especially Bill ),

I must be unable to be comprehended, but if we consider the two players mentioned so far as being two of the top three seeds, I was just wanting to know who was the third of these three. I guess that asking for the specifics of the seeding order is unnecessary as I guess I can figure that out for myself,I dont take it as a given from Misha's comments that the two mentioned are 2 of the top 3 seeds.

James opponent in the 2nd round could have been over 2200. That doesnt put Museava in the top 3. We will have to wait for either someone to post the name of James 2nd round opponent or a list of the top seeds to have a real idea how strong is the top end of the field.

Mischa
06-08-2005, 09:50 PM
Sorry
Just got the info from James' dad who is less versed in chess than I.....and we all know how much I know....

antichrist
06-08-2005, 09:58 PM
Sorry
Just got the info from James' dad who is less versed in chess than I.....and we all know how much I know....

Well that milkman is looking awful suspicious

Mischa
06-08-2005, 10:22 PM
can't answer as I should be banned

Mischa
07-08-2005, 12:48 PM
ok this seems to be a thread about James but he is the only one I have info on (funny that).
He played Johnny Bolens (sorry if misspelt) in round two and won.
In round 4 his opponent was Musava...rated 2094 and again he won.
He is very happy but now too cocky so I will assume he will lose next round!

arosar
07-08-2005, 01:23 PM
How about an exclusive for my blog? A game annotated by him from this tourn. You know, like the Sales one.

Of course, I can't pay him. I'll only make him famous.

AR

Mischa
07-08-2005, 02:24 PM
I'm sure he would love it!I will ask him when he gets back! Thanks.

Mischa
07-08-2005, 02:31 PM
Hey round 5 result...James Morris defeated Mosaddeque Ali.....
Tournament leader is Ronald Scott

Oepty
07-08-2005, 05:00 PM
I had the pleasure of meeting James at the Uni Open. Seemed to be a nice lively kid, it is good to see him doing well.
Scott

Mischa
07-08-2005, 05:40 PM
thx...lively is an interesting term but I undertsand your meaning
He lost the last round to Ronald Scott as expected.
So I guess a picket fence for Ronald?
Waiting to hear.

Bill Gletsos
07-08-2005, 05:44 PM
I notice that unlike last year the event is only 6 instead of 7 rounds.

Rincewind
07-08-2005, 05:46 PM
He lost the last round to Ronald Scott as expected.

Oh well. Excellent performance by James in any regard! :clap:

And congratulations to the winner as well.

Mischa
07-08-2005, 05:48 PM
James came equal third witha few others...one beaign Max Illingworth.
The funny thing is that they shared the cash prize and ended up with $25.
The junior prize was 3 books.....won by another junior on 1.5 points.

Garvinator
07-08-2005, 05:50 PM
How come you are up in nsw Mischa?

Mischa
07-08-2005, 05:51 PM
James would rather the books!

eclectic
07-08-2005, 06:16 PM
James would rather the books!

he is probably right in preferring that option ... one of the books might have had a free entry coupon to a competition which has as its first prize a return trip to new zealand!!!

:owned: :owned: :owned:

;)

eclectic

Alan Shore
07-08-2005, 10:30 PM
I notice that unlike last year the event is only 6 instead of 7 rounds.

It was 6 rounds when I played this event, way back in 2001!

And congratulations to Ronald!

Bill Gletsos
07-08-2005, 11:00 PM
It was 6 rounds when I played this event, way back in 2001!I'm aware of that. ;)
It was also 6 rounds in 2002, but 7 rounds in 2003 and 2004.

Bereaved
07-08-2005, 11:15 PM
Well done to James Morris, who seems at each and every tournament outing to surpass the one previous. If he continues at this rate, I will be pleased, as no doubt will his parents,

Take care alll, and God Bless, Macavity

Mischa
08-08-2005, 12:22 AM
thank you

Trent Parker
08-08-2005, 06:44 AM
I suspect that may be Aina Musaeva rated 2094 FIDE.

This is correct. She had a bad tournament. I beat her in the 5th round! :D My biggest win yet!!! :D

I ended up on 3/6

antichrist
08-08-2005, 08:02 AM
This is correct. She had a bad tournament. I beat her in the 5th round! :D My biggest win yet!!! :D

I ended up on 3/6

truly amazing - you could have went soft with "after-dinner mints" - I have got to teach you everything

Duff McKagan
08-08-2005, 08:56 AM
This is correct. She had a bad tournament. I beat her in the 5th round! :D My biggest win yet!!! :D

I ended up on 3/6

Here is Trent's game. Unfortunately the time scramble was not recorded:


[Event "Coal City Open"]
[Site "Broadmeadow, NSW"]
[Date "2005.08.07"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Musaeva, Ania"]
[Black "Parker, Trent"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C46"]
[WhiteElo "2094"]
[BlackElo "1489"]
[PlyCount "98"]
[EventDate "2005.08.07"]
[SourceDate "2005.08.06"]

1. e4 Nc6 2. Nc3 e5 3. Nf3 Bb4 4. d4 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 Nf6 6. d5 Ne7 7. Nxe5 d6 8.
Nf3 Nxe4 9. Qd4 Nf6 10. c4 c5 11. Qd1 O-O 12. Be2 a6 13. O-O Bd7 14. Bf4 Ba4
15. Bg5 Ne4 16. Bd3 Nxg5 17. Nxg5 h6 18. Ne4 b5 19. Qd2 Qd7 20. Rfb1 Rab8 21.
Nc3 bxc4 22. Bxc4 Bb5 23. Nxb5 axb5 24. Be2 b4 25. Rb2 Qb7 26. Bc4 Qa7 27. Rab1
Qa3 28. Bb3 Rfc8 29. Bc4 Kf8 30. Kf1 Re8 31. Qd3 Qxd3+ 32. cxd3 Ra8 33. Rd1 Nf5
34. g3 Nd4 35. f4 f5 36. Re1 Rxe1+ 37. Kxe1 Re8+ 38. Kf2 g6 39. Bb3 Re7 40. Bd1
Ke8 41. g4 h5 42. gxh5 Rh7 43. Kg3 gxh5 44. Kh4 Ke7 45. Rg2 Kf6 46. Bxh5 Nb5
47. Rg8 Nc7 48. Rg6+ Ke7 49. Kg5 Nxd5 {And Black won.} 0-1

Rincewind
08-08-2005, 09:30 AM
James came equal third witha few others...one beaign Max Illingworth.
The funny thing is that they shared the cash prize and ended up with $25.
The junior prize was 3 books.....won by another junior on 1.5 points.

This sounds a bit strange. Instead of two juniors sharing ~$100-150 worth of books they share $50 ($25 each) which is not even enough to buy one average priced chess book.

Was the choice of a share in 3rd or the best junior prize offered? I would have thought the higher value prize would normally be awarded automatically.

I am assuming here. Anyone know roughly how much these books were valued at? It should be a safe assumption that it was >$50 in total unless they were from the bargain bin.

Trent Parker
08-08-2005, 09:33 AM
BTW they were old, IMHO pretty stodgy books.... Must have been donated by someone...

Trent Parker
08-08-2005, 09:38 AM
In the above game I got into a position where I had sacked my rook for her queened f pawn... so her king was on f8 and i had pawns on b2 and d2 she had a rook on the 8th rank and when i started marching my king up towards her rook she resigned... :D

Rincewind
08-08-2005, 10:00 AM
BTW they were old, IMHO pretty stodgy books.... Must have been donated by someone...

Thanks, Trent. That might explain it.

Mischa
08-08-2005, 02:02 PM
Actually he wanted one of the books!

Mischa
08-08-2005, 02:04 PM
James says..."I could have claimed a draw by repetition against Ronald Scott. At least I think I could have....."

Rincewind
08-08-2005, 02:08 PM
Actually he wanted one of the books!

Maybe the option should have been offered to the boys.

Mischa
08-08-2005, 02:50 PM
James says..."We played a sequence of moves that were the same three times.Is this a draw situation?..."

Rincewind
08-08-2005, 03:39 PM
James says..."We played a sequence of moves that were the same three times.Is this a draw situation?..."

To make a valid claim the same position must occur on the board three times with all pieces having the same possible moves (e.g. possibilities of castling and en passant may cause optically similar positions to be non-identical) and the same colour having the move. The other thing is the draw must be claimed. It does not immediately end the game in the same way that checkmate, stalemate or dead position does.

The same moves occuring three times in a row might not constitute a triple repetition of position. Depending on the position on the board at the start of the sequence of repetitions.

The other things of interest is that the triple repitition does not need to occur on consecutive moves. If the identical position reappears on moves 10, 20 and 40 (for example) a valid claim can still be made.

Garvinator
08-08-2005, 04:09 PM
Also the player claiming the draw must be able to show to the arbiter that the position has repeated for the third time, which 99% of the time isnt possible when both players have stopped recording ie 10 second time control and under 5 minutes.

Alan Shore
08-08-2005, 04:31 PM
You were in Newcastle?

No, Ronald showed me the game last night. The closest he got was an equalish position before he lost the exchange.

arosar
08-08-2005, 04:38 PM
So Ron is in QLD now?

In any case, in that "equalish" position, surely James' statement still holds, right? After all, he was uncertain himself when saying, "at least I think so".

AR

Alan Shore
08-08-2005, 04:41 PM
So Ron is in QLD now?

AR

No Amiel, the wonders of the internet allow me to view chess games (and talk to people) without having to meet with them face-to-face! ;)

arosar
08-08-2005, 04:42 PM
Show me this game. Let the Closet Grandmaster judge it.

THanks man.

AR

Alan Shore
08-08-2005, 04:45 PM
Show me this game. Let the Closet Grandmaster judge it.

THanks man.

AR

Didn't save it - only watched it on FICS last night. You'll have to ask Ronald or James to give you the moves.

Garvinator
08-08-2005, 05:51 PM
Does that matter? You've left the topic behind and begun to chase ghosts.
and we know that you advise dont go chasing ghosts :owned:

Rincewind
08-08-2005, 08:45 PM
I have had a look at James' version of the game and while there was a double repetition of position, I didn't see a triple. However, immediately before the 29...Re8 blunder, White had no advantage I could see.

Mischa
08-08-2005, 08:54 PM
Hey James was mistaken! It was a double not a triple from what we can gather....
Poor kid is very very sick. He only just got through the tournament

arosar
08-08-2005, 08:59 PM
Hey James was mistaken! It was a double not a triple from what we can gather....
Poor kid is very very sick. He only just got through the tournament

Don't forget my exclusive....also, have you got an email addy?

AR

Mischa
08-08-2005, 09:06 PM
No I won't forget....I will pm you my addy.

Bereaved
08-08-2005, 10:10 PM
Hello everyone,
If one is making a mistake in analysis, or the repetition of a position within a game then the mistake is penalised or noticed at the time.

That at the time of talking about a game afterwards, someone suggests that such a thing has occured, it seems a bit, actually more than a bit, over the top to make the whole thing such a big drama.

It would seem to me that the performance of James Morris in this event is of far greater significance when examined as a tournament than the fact of an agreed to be erroneous statement.

I think that the name Morris, J will appear at the top of tournament tables of many tables over the coming years,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

auriga
09-08-2005, 05:57 PM
so who won the newcastle tournament??
any scores.

Mischa
09-08-2005, 06:08 PM
Ronald Scott....with a picket... first
Hlbano came second....5/6
4 people on 4/6....Max Illingworth
Mossadeque Ali
Tony Brookfield
James Morris

Bill Gletsos
09-08-2005, 06:55 PM
so who won the newcastle tournament??
any scores.As soon as I receive the SP files I'll post a crosstable.

auriga
09-08-2005, 08:34 PM
thanks.

Mischa
09-08-2005, 09:27 PM
Glad to help whenever I can, as long as it does not involve the spelling of peoples names.

Trent Parker
09-08-2005, 09:47 PM
hehe

Bereaved
09-08-2005, 11:30 PM
Typos are a problem for some people aren't they? I've made my fair share i know ;)

Take care all and God Bless, Macavity

some days are longeeer than others :D

M

AirPlatypus13
13-08-2005, 12:18 PM
They're Damn Slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww with a table for this Tourney. Must be linked to the N.T. chess scene.......

eclectic
13-08-2005, 04:43 PM
They're Damn Slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww with a table for this Tourney. Must be linked to the N.T. chess scene.......

you should be thankful it's not being featured on the chess victoria website

:whistle:

eclectic

Bill Gletsos
13-08-2005, 08:53 PM
They're Damn Slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww with a table for this Tourney. Must be linked to the N.T. chess scene.......I have received the SP files and the rating program has detected some problems with it. e.g. it shows a player playing two different opponents in the same round.
As such I'm not prepared to post it here until I have been informed of the correct results.

Bill Gletsos
14-08-2005, 04:17 PM
No Name Feder Loc Total 1 2 3 4 5 6

1 Scott, Ronald NSW 2202 6 8:W 2:W 10:W 3:W 9:W 4:W
2 Hlabano, Segopotso NSW 1685 5 16:W 1:L 14:W 15:W 17:W 3:W
3 Illingworth, Max NSW 1820 4 18:W 12:W 4:W 1:L 6:W 2:L
4 Morris, James VIC 1571 4 22:W 6:W 3:L 13:W 5:W 1:L
5 Ali, Mosaddeque ACT 1777 4 27:+ 9:L 11:W 7:W 4:L 15:W
6 Bolens, Johny NSW 2014 4 14:W 4:L 17:W 12:W 3:L 10:W
7 Brookfield, Toby Guer 1560 4 20:W 13:L 18:W 5:L 21:W 9:W
8 Weltner, Michael NSW 1464 4 1:L 11:L 25:W 24:W 18:W 12:W
9 Behne-Smith, David NSW 1494 3.5 21:W 5:W 13:W 10:D 1:L 7:L
10 Canfell, Mike J NSW 1690 3.5 25:W 15:W 1:L 9:D 11:W 6:L
11 Koutnik, Matthew NSW 1075 3.5 17:D 8:W 5:L 23:W 10:L 20:W
12 Losh, Gary NSW 1519 3 24:W 3:L 22:W 6:L 16:W 8:L
13 Musaeva, Aina 2094 3 23:W 7:W 9:L 4:L 15:L 17:W
14 Lane, Endel NSW 1405 3 6:L 16:W 2:L 17:L 22:W 21:W
15 Parker, Trent NSW 1489 3 26:W 10:L 24:W 2:L 13:W 5:L
16 Bender, Peter G QLD 1314 3 2:L 14:L 21:W 20:W 12:L 23:W
17 Keuning, Anthony V NSW 1609 2.5 11:D 19:+ 6:L 14:W 2:L 13:L
18 Robinson, Andrew NSW 1382 2.5 3:L 20:W 7:L 26:D 8:L 25:W
19 Behne-Smith, Jonathan NSW 926 2.5 0:D 17:- 0:L 0:L 26:D 24:W
20 Momot, Alex NSW 934 2 7:L 18:L 0:W 16:L 25:W 11:L
21 Forbord, Jorn 2 9:L 26:W 16:L 22:W 7:L 14:L
22 Behne-Smith, Sarah NSW 1028 2 4:L 23:W 12:L 21:L 14:L 26:W
23 Deacon, Graeme NSW 1400 2 13:L 22:L 26:W 11:L 24:W 16:L
24 Booth, Shaun NSW 1 12:L 25:W 15:L 8:L 23:L 19:L
25 Vidler, Peter J NSW 1326 1 10:L 24:L 8:L 0:W 20:L 18:L
26 Hendry, Ian L NSW 1380 1 15:L 21:L 23:L 18:D 19:D 22:L
27 Smith, Teta 0 5:- 0: 0: 0: 0: 0:

Bereaved
16-08-2005, 01:06 AM
Thank you Bill for posting the crosstable.
What does "Guer" next to Toby Brookfield's name mean? Would I be right in guessing Guernsey Isles?
Take care and God Bless, Macavity