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pax
02-06-2005, 12:55 PM
Now that the first CC tournament is nearly complete, I'd like to know if anyone is interested in starting a ladder.

Rough framework:
-Initial positions will be finishing positions from the CC tournament at the top (those who wish to participate), followed by players in random order.
-Players may challenge any player ranked above (or below).
-Players play one game, colour determined at random (more games may be played by agreement).
-If the lower player wins, the players exchange places. If (s)he loses or ties, there is no change.
-A player who is not currently engaged in a match with a lower ranked player must accept any challenge from a player ranked three places below or fewer.
-Computer assistance is not permitted (taken on trust).

Garvinator
02-06-2005, 01:10 PM
-Players play one game, colour determined at random (more games may be played by agreement).
agreed, but for this idea, the challenge could be two games, one white, one black and to get the higher position, the lower ranked player must win the match to take the higher position on the ladder. :hmm:

pax
02-06-2005, 02:11 PM
agreed, but for this idea, the challenge could be two games, one white, one black and to get the higher position, the lower ranked player must win the match to take the higher position on the ladder. :hmm:

Maybe, although I want to require players to accept a challenge from a lower player even if they are already playing a higher. 4 games at a time is a bit more than I had in mind (I know you crazy tourney ppl were playing 12).

Glenno
08-08-2005, 03:57 PM
If no-one is starting a ladder, maybe I should be the one who starts one.

Glenno
27-09-2005, 02:44 PM
If no-one is starting a ladder, maybe I should be the one who starts one.

My current ladder is as follows:

1 JGB
2 pax
3 arosar
4 Kerry Stead
5 ElevatorEscapee
6 1min_grandmaster
7 ggrayggray
8 Liberace
9 fletch
10 the chess nut
11 Frosty
12 Glenno
13 Kaitlin
14 antichrist
15 Careth
16 LongWhip
17 bunta

Note that only players (except for banned players) that have finished at least one game in the past six months are listed.

antichrist
27-09-2005, 07:17 PM
Well I am first to challenge Kaitlin to get my points up

Glenno
04-10-2005, 02:41 PM
I propose a framework on the ladder like this:

- Games shall be played in accordance with the FIDE Laws of Chess where applicable.
- Each competitor is allowed 40 days for every 10 moves.
- If the time limit is exceeded once (flag falls) the game is lost.
- Time saved shall be carried forward.
- The time used for each move is the difference in days between the date on which the opponent's latest move was received and the mailing date of the reply.
- Exceeding the time limit can neither be prevented nor caused by conditional moves. The time of reflection is added at the sender's first move in a sequence of conditional moves and at the recipient's answering move to the last conditional move accepted.
- A penalty of five days shall be added to a player who sends an illegible, invalid or illegal move, or who incorrectly repeats his opponent's latest move.
- A player must not take more than 10 days for any move. Using more than 20 days for one move leads to the immediate forfeiture of the game.
- It is strongly recommended that players keep track of reflection time.
- A move sent with complete but wrong timekeeping information is not considered as invalid. The opponent must ask a correction of the clocks. The transmission, reflection and/or cumulative times recorded by a player may differ from those recorded by the opponent. If so, the matter may be referred to myself for a ruling.
- Either or both players who do not keep a timekeeping record forfeit the right to claim for any time violation by an opponent.
- Any player not keeping time records forfeits the right to defend himself against an elapsed time limit claim made by his opponent who has recorded such an elapsed time limit.
- The 10-day rule shall be applied in any case even if timekeeping information is missing.
- Claims that the time limit has been exceeded shall PM the game to myself and the opponent instead of answering the move where the time violation occurred. The game is suspended, clocks stop until a decision had been made by myself. The claim is valid if sent within a legal delay as for a move.
- Any protest shall PM myself within 7 days of receiving the message, otherwise the claim shall be deemed conceded.
I shall shall inform both players (by PM) of the decision within 10 days after receiving the claim.
- If I dismisses a claim as being unfounded, there is no further claim by that player during the current period of 40 days for 10 moves shall be accepted.
- There is a time limit of one year to complete a game.

bergil
07-10-2005, 05:58 AM
How do you get a start?

Glenno
07-10-2005, 02:48 PM
How do you get a start?

For those not on the list, you can challenge anyone, whether or not they are on the list.

Glenno
26-10-2005, 01:52 PM
My updated ladder is as follows:

1 [new] Matthew Sweeney
2 [down 1] JGB
3 [down 1] pax
4 [up 4 :) ] Liberace
5 [down 1] Kerry Stead
6 [down 1] ElevatorEscapee
7 [down 1] 1min_grandmaster
8 [down 5 :( ] arosar
9 [down 2] ggrayggray
10 [down 1] fletch
11 [down 1] the chess nut
12 [down 1] Frosty
13 [up 1] antichrist
14 [down 2] Glenno
15 [down 2] Kaitlin
16 [down 1] Careth
17 [down 1] LongWhip
18 [down 1] bunta

Garvinator
26-10-2005, 02:24 PM
Challenge:

Arosar white v ggrayggray black.

Arosar is currently higher ranked, so he plays white.

arosar
27-10-2005, 09:23 AM
how in the world did I find myself on this list?

AR

Glenno
27-10-2005, 01:57 PM
how in the world did I find myself on this list?

My apologies to you. My revised ladder is now as follows:

1 [new] Matthew Sweeney
2 [down 1] JGB
3 [down 1] pax
4 [up 1] Kerry Stead
5 [up 1] ElevatorEscapee
6 [up 1] 1min_grandmaster
7 [up 2] ggrayggray
8 [up 2] fletch
9 [up 2] the chess nut
10 [up 2] Frosty
11 [up 2] antichrist
12 [up 2] Glenno
13 [up 2] Kaitlin
14 [up 2] Careth
15 [up 2] LongWhip
16 [up 2] bunta

Garvinator
27-10-2005, 02:04 PM
well, well. I only challenged arosar because he was higher than me on the list. I dont want to play him at all actually, sorry. Can we terminate the game now?

arosar
27-10-2005, 02:09 PM
no man...we play...I was just wondering how I got there on that ladder when I had not entered. Now I enter.

AR

pax
27-10-2005, 05:42 PM
What's with Sweeney's phantom leap to #1?? As far as I can see, he hasn't finished any games, and is currently losing to tcn...

Trent Parker
28-10-2005, 02:26 AM
Well..... He beat me in the first game........

Glenno
31-10-2005, 12:52 PM
What's with Sweeney's phantom leap to #1?? As far as I can see, he hasn't finished any games, and is currently losing to tcn...


Well..... He beat me in the first game........

Because of this discrepancy, I have adjusted the standings:

1 arosar
2 JGB
3 Comrade Zukovsky
4 jenni
5 pax
6 Kerry Stead
7 ElevatorEscapee
8 1min_grandmaster
9 Matthew Sweeney
10 ggrayggray
11 Frosty
12 Megaman
13 fletch
14 antichrist
15 Frank Walker
16 the chess nut
17 Glenno
18 Careth
19 LongWhip
20 Kaitlin
21 bunta

Glenno
08-11-2005, 12:58 PM
Recent results:
(1) the chess nut drew with Matthew Sweeney [agreement]
(2) LongWhip defeated Frank Walker [time]
(3) the chess nut defeated Megaman [time]

Updated standings:
1 Comrade Zukovsky
2 jenni
3 ElevatorEscapee
4 Frosty
5 Matthew Sweeney
6 fletch
7 antichrist
8 the chess nut
9 Glenno
10 LongWhip
11 Careth
12 Megaman
13 Frank Walker

Watto
08-11-2005, 01:24 PM
Hi Glenno. If you could add me to the list of people interested in correspondence games that would be great. Thanks.

Glenno
30-11-2005, 01:22 PM
Updated standings:

1 arosar
2 JGB
3 Comrade Zukovsky
4 jenni
5 ElevatorEscapee
6 1min_grandmaster
7 Frosty
8 ggrayggray
9 Matthew Sweeney
10 antichrist
11 fletch
12 the chess nut
13 Glenno
14 LongWhip
15 Megaman
16 Megaman
17 Careth
18 Kaitlin
19 Frank Walker

Note: ElevatorEscapee to be omitted after 10/12/2005 unless he completes at least one game soon.

ElevatorEscapee
03-12-2005, 07:22 PM
lol! Not only did I not know that this ladder existed until a few days ago, I still don't know where to find it! (I had to go back to a thread where Glenno had quoted it). Could this thread be made a sticky if it is not so already?

In any case, Fletch has challenged me to a game, and we are off... so could we please hold back on Fitzroying me until both of us have had a chance to get into the game?

Cheers,

EE! :D

Glenno
04-01-2006, 02:36 PM
Updated standings:

1 arosar
2 JGB
3 Comrade Zukovsky
4 Kerry Stead
5= Altecman
5= jenni
5= Watto
8 1min_grandmaster
9 Frosty
10 ggrayggray
11 Matthew Sweeney
12 ElevatorEscapee
13 fletch
14 LongWhip
15 antichrist
16 Careth
17 the chess nut
18 Glenno
19 bergil
20 Megaman
21 Kaitlin
22 Frank Walker

Kaitlin
04-01-2006, 03:13 PM
Do I have to play the person above me or can you play who ever wants to play?

Glenno
11-01-2006, 01:59 PM
Do I have to play the person above me or can you play who ever wants to play?

You can play against anyone.

Jaaaman
18-01-2006, 12:39 AM
How do I get involved in playing games on the chess ladder? I am new to this site as of today. :)

Trent Parker
18-01-2006, 02:12 AM
I dunno where the latter is going atm..... we got a Tournament going on atm....

which i havent made a move for a while.

.... Waiting for Skip to fix things like pgn viewer.....

Glenno
08-02-2006, 02:13 PM
Updated standings:

1 arosar
2 Comrade Zukovsky
3 Kerry Stead
4= altecman
4= Watto
6 jenni
7 ElevatorEscapee
8 ggrayggray
9 Frosty
10 tassie_4
11 fletch
12 Matthew Sweeney
13 antichrist
14 Glenno
15 EGOR
16 LongWhip
17 Careth
18 the chess nut
19 Megaman
20 bergil
21 Frank Walker

Glenno
01-03-2006, 03:40 PM
Updated standings:

1 arosar
2 Kerry Stead
3 Comrade Zukovsky
4= altecman
4= Watto
6 jenni
7 ElevatorEscapee
8 ggrayggray
9 Frosty
10 tassie_4
11 Matthew Sweeney
12 fletch
13 antichrist
14 Glenno
15 LongWhip
16 EGOR
17 Careth
18 the chess nut
19 Megaman
20 bergil
21 Frank Walker

Glenno
05-04-2006, 03:25 PM
Updated standings:

1 arosar
2 Kerry Stead
3 Comrade Zukovsky
4= altecman
4= Watto
6 jenni
7 ggrayggray
8 Frosty
9 Matthew Sweeney
10 tassie_4
11 fletch
12 Glenno
13 LongWhip
14 Careth
15 EGOR
16 peter_knight
17 the chess nut
18 Megaman
19 bergil
20 Frank Walker

Glenno
08-06-2006, 05:34 PM
Updated standings:

1 Kerry Stead
2 qpawn
3 ElevatorEscapee
4 1144
5= altecman
5= Watto
7 pax
8 alipasha
9 fletch
10 tassie_4
11 antichrist
12 Frosty
13 Matthew Sweener
14 Careth
15 the chess nut
16 bergil
17 peter_knight
18 EGOR

Basil
08-06-2006, 06:09 PM
How do I get involved in playing games on the chess ladder? I am new to this site as of today. :)

Did any of you miserable baskets throw this guy a lifeline? or was it an anchor? pff!

Desmond
08-06-2006, 06:33 PM
Did any of you moserable baskets throw this guy a lifeline? or was it an anchor? pff!

hmm I guess we may have to swap out positions as not mentioned on the ladder depending on the result of our game Howard ;)

Desmond
16-06-2006, 06:45 PM
Can I challenge anyone on the ladder at any time?

ElevatorEscapee
16-06-2006, 07:46 PM
You can, but not everyone may respond. :)

Desmond
16-06-2006, 08:12 PM
Townsville Chess Club has a challenge board with some rules worth considering for the Corr ladder here:
http://au.geocities.com/townsvillechessclub/

Glenno
13-07-2006, 09:04 AM
Updated standings:

1 qpawn
2 1144
3= Boris
3=Igor_Goldenborg
5 Kerry Stead
6 alipasha
7 ElevatorEscapee
8 tassie_4
9 fletch
10 Frosty
11 Belthasar
12 Careth
13 Matthew Sweeney
14 antichrist
15 Arrogant One
16 Axiom
17 Howard Duggan
18 EGOR
19 peter_knight

Igor_Goldenberg
13-07-2006, 09:33 AM
I feel honoured to be in the list, but I don't think I deserved. Please accept my withdrawl.

WhiteElephant
13-07-2006, 09:48 AM
I feel honoured to be in the list, but I don't think I deserved. Please accept my withdrawl.

Maybe one day you will be as high as qpawn :)

Igor_Goldenberg
13-07-2006, 12:42 PM
Maybe one day you will be as high as qpawn :)

This is beyond my wildest dreams.

bergil
14-07-2006, 04:17 PM
Townsville Chess Club has a challenge board with some rules worth considering for the Corr ladder here:
http://au.geocities.com/townsvillechessclub/
Why could not this site have the same as the WACA site has?

http://wachess.org.au//index.php?option=com_pcchess&Itemid=48
http://wachess.org.au//index.php?option=com_pcchess&Itemid=84&page=showgame&game_id=217

Glenno
05-08-2006, 04:30 PM
Updated standings:

1 qpawn
2 1144
3= Boris
3=Igor_Goldenborg
5 Kerry Stead
6 alipasha
7 Kevin Bonham
8 ElevatorEscapee
9 fletch
10 Frosty
11 Belthasar
12 Careth
13 peter_knight
14 antichrist
15 Matthew Sweeney
16 Axiom
17 Howard Duggan
18 EGOR

MichaelBaron
06-08-2006, 03:39 AM
Updated standings:

1 qpawn
2 1144
3= Boris
3=Igor_Goldenborg
5 Kerry Stead
6 alipasha
7 Kevin Bonham
8 ElevatorEscapee
9 fletch
10 Frosty
11 Belthasar
12 Careth
13 peter_knight
14 antichrist
15 Matthew Sweeney
16 Axiom
17 Howard Duggan
18 EGOR


Where is my Cat? How can my Cat Vasia is not part of the ladder? It has played on here before;) . Vasia wants to become the first Cat ever to get a chess rating.

QPawn is rated above everyone wow...what an interesting ladder. Vasia wonders if Qpawn's Rybka is invincible ;)

Glenno
12-08-2006, 05:07 PM
Where is my Cat? How can my Cat Vasia is not part of the ladder? It has played on here before. Vasia wants to become the first Cat ever to get a chess rating.

Thanks for letting me know that now.

Now that I have incorporated that game, the updated standings are now as follows:

1 Igor Goldenborg (rating 1730, RD 291)
2 Kerry Stead (1728, 175)
3 qpawn (1713, 284)
4 alipasha (1693, 227)
5 ElevatorEscapee (1680, 200)
6 Boris (1662, 293)
7 1144 (1162, 295)
8 Belthasar (1632, 272)
9 Kevin Bonham (1621, 236)
10 fletch (1582, 231)
11 tassie_4 (1545, 296)
12 Frosty (1498, 221)
13 antichrist (1425, 223)
14 peter_knight (1417, 263)
15 Axiom (1409, 213)
16 Careth (1364, 204)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 293)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 297)
19 EGOR (1198, 216)

For the record, I am testing several rating systems and select the one that has the highest correlation value (using PERCENTRANK values). This is why the ladder changes often. The ladder above used the Glicko system.

Glenno
31-08-2006, 02:57 PM
CORRELATIONS
GameKnot = 92.42%
Glicko = 93.80%
ICC = 83.87%
IECC = 91.76%
IECG = 92.53%
Sonas = 88.55%
USCF (full-K) = 94.54%
USCF (half-K) = 94.28%

STANDINGS (USCF full-K)
1 1144 (rating 1218)
2 Belthasar (1150)
3 Igor_Goldenberg (1150)
4 qpawn (1123)
5 Kerry Stead (963)
6 alipasha (958)
7 Kevin Bonham (950)
8 ElevatorEscapee (911)
9 Boris (888)
10 fletch (815)
11 tassie_4 (703)
12 Frosty (659)
13 Axiom (650)
14 antichrist (647)
15 Careth (638)
16 peter_knight (638)
17= Howard Duggan (350)
17= Michael Baron (350)
17= Arrogant One (350)
20 EGOR (270)

MichaelBaron
31-08-2006, 03:47 PM
CORRELATIONS
GameKnot = 92.42%
Glicko = 93.80%
ICC = 83.87%
IECC = 91.76%
IECG = 92.53%
Sonas = 88.55%
USCF (full-K) = 94.54%
USCF (half-K) = 94.28%

STANDINGS (USCF full-K)
1 1144 (rating 1218)
2 Belthasar (1150)
3 Igor_Goldenberg (1150)
4 qpawn (1123)
5 Kerry Stead (963)
6 alipasha (958)
7 Kevin Bonham (950)
8 ElevatorEscapee (911)
9 Boris (888)
10 fletch (815)
11 tassie_4 (703)
12 Frosty (659)
13 Axiom (650)
14 antichrist (647)
15 Careth (638)
16 peter_knight (638)
17= Howard Duggan (350)
17= Michael Baron (350)
17= Arrogant One (350)
20 EGOR (270)

Wow...How did I end up as part of the ladder?:hmm: 300 below antichrist :lol:

MichaelBaron
31-08-2006, 03:48 PM
CORRELATIONS
GameKnot = 92.42%
Glicko = 93.80%
ICC = 83.87%
IECC = 91.76%
IECG = 92.53%
Sonas = 88.55%
USCF (full-K) = 94.54%
USCF (half-K) = 94.28%

STANDINGS (USCF full-K)
1 1144 (rating 1218)
2 Belthasar (1150)
3 Igor_Goldenberg (1150)
4 qpawn (1123)
5 Kerry Stead (963)
6 alipasha (958)
7 Kevin Bonham (950)
8 ElevatorEscapee (911)
9 Boris (888)
10 fletch (815)
11 tassie_4 (703)
12 Frosty (659)
13 Axiom (650)
14 antichrist (647)
15 Careth (638)
16 peter_knight (638)
17= Howard Duggan (350)
17= Michael Baron (350)
17= Arrogant One (350)
20 EGOR (270)

Do not list me..List my Cat Vasia here...:owned:

Axiom
01-09-2006, 12:31 AM
Do not list me..List my Cat Vasia here...:owned:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :doh: ;)

Glenno
07-09-2006, 04:32 PM
Do not list me..List my Cat Vasia here...:owned:

Thank you for the correction.

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 1144 (rating 1218)
2 Belthasar (1150)
3 Igor_Goldenberg (1150)
4 qpawn (1123)
5 Kerry Stead (963)
6 alipasha (958)
7 Kevin Bonham (950)
8 ElevatorEscapee (911)
9 Boris (888)
10 fletch (815)
11 tassie_4 (703)
12 Frosty (659)
13 Axiom (650)
14 antichrist (647)
15 Careth (638)
16 peter_knight (638)
17= Howard Duggan (350)
17= Cat Vasia (350)
17= Arrogant One (350)
20 EGOR (270)

Glenno
03-10-2006, 01:55 PM
Updated standings (Glicko):

1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 291)
2 Sunshine (1756, 151)
3 Igor_Goldenborg (1731, 299)
4 alipasha (1681, 241)
5 Peter Knight (1633, 143)
6 1144 (1626, 297)
7 qpawn (1625, 295)
8 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 208)
9 Kevin Bonham (1587, 256)
10 Boris (1565, 128)
11 fletch (1517, 235)
12 TCN (1495, 189)
13 Kerry Stead (1494, 122)
14 antichrist (1469, 285)
15 Axiom (1418, 137)
16 Arrogant One (1406, 309)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 302)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 305)
19 Frosty (1312, 228)
20 EGOR (989, 160)

Glenno
04-10-2006, 12:42 PM
RECENT RESULTS
2/10/2006 Sunshine v Peter Knight 1/2-1/2
3/10/2006 Peter Knight v Sunshine 1/2-1/2

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 291)
2 Igor_Goldenborg (1731, 299)
3 Sunshine (1701, 137)
4 alipasha (1681, 241)
5 Peter Knight (1657, 127)
6 1144 (1626, 297)
7 qpawn (1625, 296)
8 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 208)
9 Kevin Bonham (1587, 256)
10 Boris (1565, 128)
11 fletch (1517, 235)
12 TCN (1495, 189)
13 Kerry Stead (1494, 122)
14 antichrist (1469, 285)
15 Axiom (1418, 137)
16 Arrogant One (1406, 309)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 302)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 305)
19 Frosty (1312, 229)
20 EGOR (989, 160)

Glenno
09-10-2006, 03:01 PM
RECENT RESULTS
8/10/2006 Axiom v Peter Knight 0-1

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 291)
2 Igor_Goldenborg (1731, 300)
3 Sunshine (1701, 138)
4 alipasha (1681, 242)
5 Peter Knight (1675, 124)
6 1144 (1626, 297)
7 qpawn (1625, 296)
8 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 208)
9 Kevin Bonham (1587, 257)
10 Boris (1565, 130)
11 fletch (1517, 236)
12 TCN (1495, 190)
13 Kerry Stead (1494, 124)
14 antichrist (1469, 286)
15 Arrogant One (1406, 310)
16 Axiom (1398, 132)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 303)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 305)
19 Frosty (1312, 229)
20 EGOR (989, 161)

Glenno
11-10-2006, 02:15 PM
RECENT RESULTS
9/10/2006 Axiom v TCN 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 291)
2 Igor_Goldenborg (1731, 300)
3 Sunshine (1701, 138)
4 alipasha (1681, 242)
5 Peter Knight (1675, 124)
6 1144 (1626, 297)
7 qpawn (1625, 296)
8 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 209)
9 Kevin Bonham (1587, 257)
10 Boris (1565, 130)
11 fletch (1517, 236)
12 Kerry Stead (1494, 124)
13 antichrist (1469, 286)
14 Axiom (1446, 126)
15 Arrogant One (1406, 310)
16 TCN (1398, 171)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 303)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 305)
19 Frosty (1312, 229)
20 EGOR (989, 161)

Glenno
17-10-2006, 11:20 AM
RECENT RESULTS
16/10/2006 Peter Knight v TCN 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 292)
2 Igor_Goldenborg (1731, 301)
3 Sunshine (1701, 140)
4 Peter Knight (1690, 122)
5 alipasha (1681, 243)
6 1144 (1626, 298)
7 qpawn (1625, 297)
8 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 210)
9 Kevin Bonham (1587, 258)
10 Boris (1565, 132)
11 fletch (1517, 237)
12 Kerry Stead (1494, 126)
13 antichrist (1469, 286)
14 Axiom (1446, 128)
15 Arrogant One (1406, 310)
16 TCN (1372, 162)
17 Careth (1366, 218)
18 Howard Duggan (1338, 304)
19 Michael Baron (1338, 307)
20 Frosty (1312, 230)
21 EGOR (989, 162)

Glenno
31-10-2006, 12:54 PM
RECENT RESULTS
30/10/2006 jase v Zwichenzug 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 294)
2 Igor_Goldenborg (1731, 302)
3 Sunshine (1701, 143)
4 Peter Knight (1690, 126)
5 alipasha (1681, 245)
6 jase (1662, 290)
7 1144 (1626, 300)
8 qpawn (1625, 298)
9 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 212)
10 Kevin Bonham (1587, 260)
11 Boris (1565, 135)
12 Kerry Stead (1494, 129)
13 antichrist (1469, 288)
14 Axiom (1446, 131)
15 Arrogant One (1406, 311)
16 TCN (1372, 165)
17 Zwizhenzug (1338, 290)
18 Howard Duggan (1338, 305)
19 Michael Baron (1338, 308)
20 Frosty (1312, 232)
21 EGOR (989, 165)

Glenno
04-11-2006, 06:24 PM
RECENT RESULTS
31/10/2006 Zwichenzug v jase 1/2-1/2

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 294)
2 Igor_Goldenberg (1731, 303)
3 Sunshine (1701, 144)
4 Peter Knight (1690, 126)
5 alipasha (1681, 245)
6 1144 (1626, 300)
7 qpawn (1625, 299)
8 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 212)
9 Kevin Bonham (1587, 260)
10 jase (1577, 260)
11 Boris (1565, 135)
12 Kerry Stead (1494, 130)
13 antichrist (1469, 288)
14 Axiom (1446, 132)
15 Zwizhenzug (1423, 260)
16 Arrogant One (1406, 312)
17 TCN (1372, 165)
18 Howard Duggan (1338, 305)
19 Michael Baron (1338, 308)
20 Frosty (1312, 232)
21 EGOR (989, 165)

Glenno
07-11-2006, 05:43 PM
UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 294)
2 Igor_Goldenberg (1731, 303)
3 Sunshine (1729, 135)
4 Peter Knight (1702, 123)
5 alipasha (1681, 245)
6 1144 (1626, 300)
7 qpawn (1625, 299)
8 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 212)
9 Kevin Bonham (1587, 260)
10 jase (1577, 260)
11 Boris (1572, 123)
12 Kerry Stead (1506, 127)
13 Axiom (1477, 125)
13 antichrist (1469, 288)
15 Zwizhenzug (1423, 260)
16 Arrogant One (1406, 312)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 305)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 308)
19 Frosty (1312, 232)
20 EGOR (1199, 155)
21 TCN (1131, 125)

Glenno
15-11-2006, 03:47 PM
RECENT RESULTS
14/11/2006 ggrayggray v Kevin Bonham 1/2-1/2

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 296)
2 Igor_Goldenberg (1731, 304)
3 Sunshine (1729, 138)
4 Peter Knight (1702, 127)
5 alipasha (1681, 247)
6 ggrayggray (1647, 196)
7 qpawn (1625, 300)
8 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 215)
9 Kevin Bonham (1607, 223)
10 jase (1577, 262)
11 Boris (1572, 127)
12 Kerry Stead (1506, 131)
13 Axiom (1477, 129)
13 antichrist (1469, 290)
15 Zwizhenzug (1423, 262)
16 Arrogant One (1406, 313)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 307)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 309)
19 Frosty (1312, 235)
20 EGOR (1199, 158)
21 TCN (1131, 128)

Glenno
16-11-2006, 02:15 PM
RECENT RESULTS
16/11/2006 Kevin Bonham v ggrayggray 0-1

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 296)
2 Igor_Goldenberg (1731, 304)
3 Sunshine (1729, 139)
4 ggrayggray (1714, 178)
5 Peter Knight (1702, 127)
6 alipasha (1681, 247)
7 qpawn (1625, 300)
8 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 215)
9 jase (1577, 262)
10 Boris (1572, 127)
11 Kevin Bonham (1522, 196)
12 Kerry Stead (1506, 131)
13 Axiom (1477, 129)
13 antichrist (1469, 290)
15 Zwizhenzug (1423, 262)
16 Arrogant One (1406, 314)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 307)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 310)
19 Frosty (1312, 235)
20 EGOR (1199, 158)
21 TCN (1131, 129)

Glenno
19-11-2006, 07:23 PM
RECENT RESULTS
19/11/2006 Kevin Bonham v Boris 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 296)
2 Igor_Goldenberg (1731, 305)
3 Sunshine (1729, 140)
4 ggrayggray (1714, 179)
5 Peter Knight (1702, 128)
6 alipasha (1681, 247)
7 qpawn (1625, 301)
8 Kevin Bonham (1614, 174)
9 ElevatorEscapee (1607, 215)
10 jase (1577, 262)
11 Boris (1531, 122)
12 Kerry Stead (1506, 132)
13 Axiom (1477, 130)
13 antichrist (1469, 290)
15 Zwizhenzug (1423, 262)
16 Arrogant One (1406, 314)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 307)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 310)
19 Frosty (1312, 235)
20 EGOR (1199, 159)
21 TCN (1131, 130)

Kevin Bonham
19-11-2006, 08:11 PM
Hi Glenno, you're doing an excellent job on these - just a note to let you know poster 1144 (1626, 300) went missing from the list when ggrayggray was added to it.

Glenno
20-11-2006, 03:42 PM
Hi Glenno, you're doing an excellent job on these. Just a note to let you know poster 1144 went missing from the list when ggrayggray was added to it.

This occurred because 1144's most recent game (at the time of this reply) was finished about nine months ago now, whereas ggrayggray's most recent game was finished only a few days ago.

More specifically, I keep track on the date of the most recent game was finished (of those that have played at least one game), then I establish the median (middle value), then add one day. At the time of the latest standings, the median date was 19/2/2006; add one day and it becomes 20/2/2006.

Now, the player's most have finished at least one game since the adjusted date, and the player must not be banned from the forum.

Kevin Bonham
20-11-2006, 03:47 PM
That makes sense. We can't have Belthasar sitting on top of the list without playing any more games forever!

Glenno
24-11-2006, 03:02 PM
RECENT RESULTS
24/11/2006 ggrayggray v Glenno 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 297)
2 ggrayggray (1731, 173)
3 Igor_Goldenberg (1731, 305)
4 Sunshine (1729, 141)
5 Peter Knight (1702, 130)
6 alipasha (1681, 248)
7 qpawn (1625, 301)
8 Kevin Bonham (1614, 175)
9 jase (1577, 263)
10 Boris (1531, 123)
11 Kerry Stead (1506, 133)
12 Axiom (1477, 131)
13 antichrist (1469, 291)
14 Zwizhenzug (1423, 263)
15 Arrogant One (1406, 314)
16 Howard Duggan (1338, 308)
17 Michael Baron (1338, 310)
18 Frosty (1312, 236)
19 Glenno (1255, 241)
20 EGOR (1199, 160)
21 TCN (1131, 131)

Glenno
25-11-2006, 04:13 PM
RECENT RESULTS
25/11/2006 Glenno v ggrayggray 0-1

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 297)
2 ggrayggray (1744, 168)
3 Igor_Goldenberg (1731, 305)
4 Sunshine (1729, 141)
5 Peter Knight (1702, 130)
6 alipasha (1681, 248)
7 qpawn (1625, 301)
8 Kevin Bonham (1614, 175)
9 jase (1577, 263)
10 Boris (1531, 124)
11 Kerry Stead (1506, 133)
12 Axiom (1477, 132)
13 antichrist (1469, 291)
14 Zwizhenzug (1423, 263)
15 Arrogant One (1406, 315)
16 Howard Duggan (1338, 308)
17 Michael Baron (1338, 310)
18 Frosty (1312, 236)
19 Glenno (1233, 229)
20 EGOR (1199, 160)
21 TCN (1131, 131)

The median date is now 7/3/2006.


That makes sense. We can't have Belthasar sitting on top of the list without playing any more games forever!

Belthasar's last game was finished on 17/6/2006.

Glenno
26-11-2006, 05:12 PM
RECENT RESULTS
26/11/2006 Kevin Bonham v Glenno 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 297)
2 ggrayggray (1744, 168)
3 Igor_Goldenberg (1731, 305)
4 Sunshine (1729, 141)
5 Peter Knight (1702, 130)
6 alipasha (1681, 248)
7 Kevin Bonham (1633, 168)
8 qpawn (1625, 301)
9 jase (1577, 263)
10 Boris (1531, 124)
11 Kerry Stead (1506, 134)
12 Axiom (1477, 132)
13 antichrist (1469, 291)
14 Zwizhenzug (1423, 263)
15 Arrogant One (1406, 315)
16 Howard Duggan (1338, 308)
17 Michael Baron (1338, 310)
18 Frosty (1312, 236)
19 Glenno (1203, 214)
20 EGOR (1199, 160)
21 TCN (1131, 131)

Glenno
07-12-2006, 11:07 AM
RECENT RESULTS
6/2/2006 Boris v Kevin Bonham 1/2-1/2

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 Belthasar (rating 1835, RD 299)
2 ggrayggray (1742, 168)
3 Igor_Goldenberg (1732, 307)
4 Sunshine (1665, 143)
5 qpawn (1665, 298)
6 Kevin Bonham (1623, 156)
7 ElevatorEscapee (1622, 216)
8 Peter Knight (1608, 136)
9 jase (1577, 265)
10 Boris (1557, 131)
11 alipasha (1463, 241)
12 Kerry Stead (1506, 136)
13 Zwizhenzug (1423, 265)
14 Axiom (1420, 138)
15 Frosty (1410, 235)
16 Arrogant One (1406, 316)
17 Howard Duggan (1338, 309)
18 Michael Baron (1338, 312)
19 antichrist (1328, 229)
20 Glenno (1253, 206)
21 EGOR (1162, 151)
22 TCN (991, 139)

The ratings and RD's for some players are different because some of them were wrong in some matches considered.

Glenno
20-12-2006, 05:54 PM
RECENT RESULTS
20/9/2006 fireeater v alipasha 1-0
20/12/2006 ggrayggray v Boris 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1823, RD 188)
2 fireeater (1663, 298)
3 Sunshine (1658, 167)
4 Kevin Bonham (1625, 173)
5 Peter Knight (1611, 163)
6 jase (1577, 273)
7 Boris (1522, 148)
8 Zwizhenzug (1423, 273)
9 Axiom (1410, 164)
10 Kerry Stead (1392, 172)
11 alipasha (1383, 256)
12 antichrist (1334, 270)
13 Glenno (1232, 243)
14 EGOR (1145, 178)
15 TCN (912, 171)

Alan Shore
20-12-2006, 06:04 PM
That makes sense. We can't have Belthasar sitting on top of the list without playing any more games forever!

Hey I only just saw this - I didn't know I had to keep active.. I'll play a game with someone to get back my top spot if you like.. :)

BTW, I found it odd you're counting computer assisted games in this ladder for ratings?

Glenno
22-12-2006, 03:28 PM
RECENT RESULTS
19/12/2006 Boris v Howard Duggan 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1827, RD 186)
2 fireeater (1663, 298)
3 Sunshine (1658, 167)
4 Kevin Bonham (1625, 173)
5 Peter Knight (1611, 163)
6 jase (1577, 273)
7 Boris (1549, 142)
8 Zwizhenzug (1423, 273)
9 Axiom (1410, 164)
10 Kerry Stead (1392, 172)
11 alipasha (1383, 256)
12 antichrist (1334, 270)
13 Howard Duggan (1246, 266)
14 Glenno (1232, 243)
15 EGOR (1145, 178)
16 TCN (912, 171)

Glenno
23-12-2006, 02:43 PM
RECENT RESULTS
22/12/2006 Zwichenzug v Boris 0-1

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1826, RD 187)
2 fireeater (1663, 298)
3 Sunshine (1658, 168)
4 Kevin Bonham (1625, 173)
5 Peter Knight (1611, 163)
6 Boris (1579, 137)
7 Axiom (1410, 165)
8 Kerry Stead (1393, 171)
9 alipasha (1383, 256)
10 antichrist (1334, 271)
11 Zwizhenzug (1332, 226)
12 Howard Duggan (1246, 267)
13 Glenno (1231, 243)
14 EGOR (1146, 179)
15 TCN (914, 171)

ElevatorEscapee
23-12-2006, 08:58 PM
lol! How come I'm sometimes on there, and sometimes not! (I guess I'm just an International Man of Mystery! :cool: ;) :lol: )

antichrist
23-12-2006, 09:05 PM
RECENT RESULTS
22/12/2006 Zwichenzug v Boris 0-1

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1826, RD 187)
2 fireeater (1663, 298)
3 Sunshine (1658, 168)
4 Kevin Bonham (1625, 173)
5 Peter Knight (1611, 163)
6 Boris (1579, 137)
7 Axiom (1410, 165)
8 Kerry Stead (1393, 171)
9 alipasha (1383, 256)
10 antichrist (1334, 271)
11 Zwizhenzug (1332, 226)
12 Howard Duggan (1246, 267)
13 Glenno (1231, 243)
14 EGOR (1146, 179)
15 TCN (914, 171)

I never went in any comp as far as I know

Kevin Bonham
23-12-2006, 09:14 PM
I never went in any comp as far as I know

It's not a comp, it's a rating system for games played on this board.

antichrist
23-12-2006, 09:21 PM
It's not a comp, it's a rating system for games played on this board.

My only loss was against Frosy (on a concrete pour day), he rating must be low for my rating to be that rate - that Jonas chap resigned privately by the way

Glenno
26-12-2006, 07:32 PM
RECENT RESULTS
26/12/2006 Glenno v Kevin Bonham 0-1

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1827, RD 187)
2 fireeater (1705, 299)
3 Sunshine (1668, 169)
4 Kevin Bonham (1647, 169)
5 Peter Knight (1620, 164)
6 Boris (1587, 134)
7 jase (1577, 274)
8 alipasha (1473, 251)
9 Axiom (1420, 166)
10 Kerry Stead (1404, 173)
11 antichrist (1351, 256)
12 Zwizhenzug (1334, 228)
13 Howard Duggan (1249, 268)
14 Glenno (1201, 227)
15 EGOR (1155, 181)
16 TCN (921, 172)

Glenno
27-12-2006, 05:53 PM
RECENT RESULTS
23/12/2006 Howard Duggan v Zwizhenzug 1-0
25/12/2006 Zwizhenzug v Howard Duggan 0-1
26/12/2006 Howard Duggan v antichrist 0-1

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1827, RD 187)
2 fireeater (1705, 299)
3 Sunshine (1668, 169)
4 Kevin Bonham (1629, 175)
5 Peter Knight (1620, 164)
6 Boris (1587, 138)
7 jase (1577, 274)
8 alipasha (1473, 251)
9 Axiom (1420, 166)
10 Kerry Stead (1404, 173)
11 Howard Duggan (1369, 195)
12 antichrist (1268, 221)
13 Glenno (1232, 244)
14 Zwizhenzug (1180, 189)
15 EGOR (1155, 181)
16 TCN (921, 172)

antichrist
28-12-2006, 04:24 PM
I won my game against Howard and I lose about 90 points, was my win against Long Shot (?) also countered? Why am I going backwards.

ElevatorEscapee
28-12-2006, 04:30 PM
Maybe your games weren't submitted for rating for the current period! ;)

Glenno
28-12-2006, 04:30 PM
I won my game against Howard and I lose about 90 points, was my win against Long Shot (?) also countered? Why am I going backwards.

After the correction, the standings should have been as follows:

1 ggrayggray (rating 1827, RD 187)
2 fireeater (1705, 299)
3 Sunshine (1668, 169)
4 Kevin Bonham (1629, 175)
5 Peter Knight (1620, 164)
6 Boris (1587, 138)
7 jase (1577, 274)
8 antichrist (1503, 221)
9 alipasha (1473, 251)
10 Axiom (1420, 166)
11 Kerry Stead (1404, 173)
12 Howard Duggan (1369, 195)
13 Glenno (1232, 244)
14 Zwizhenzug (1180, 189)
15 EGOR (1155, 181)
16 TCN (921, 172)

antichrist
28-12-2006, 04:34 PM
that can't be correct me above Kerry STead, though I did take the trophy off him for most improved player at CAnterbury League Club Chess Club, I almost needed a bundle of gelignite to get him to hand it over. I was followed by George Xie, wasn't I amongst the stars!

I assume my win over long shot has been included whose Glicko rating may have been 1650 or 1750, or was it a draw??

Zwischenzug
28-12-2006, 04:36 PM
14 Zwischenzug (1180, 189)


Question, what does the number after the rating mean?

Glenno
28-12-2006, 04:37 PM
RECENT RESULTS
28/12/2006 Zwizhenzug v ElevatorEscapee 0-1
28/12/2006 Glenno v Boris 0-1

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1829, RD 189)
2 fireeater (1706, 300)
3 ElevatorEscapee (1675, 256)
4 Sunshine (1668, 170)
5 Kevin Bonham (1629, 177)
6 Peter Knight (1622, 166)
7 Boris (1602, 137)
8 jase (1577, 275)
9 antichrist (1503, 223)
10 alipasha (1473, 253)
11 Axiom (1420, 169)
12 Kerry Stead (1403, 175)
13 Howard Duggan (1369, 196)
14 Glenno (1196, 225)
15 Zwischenzug (1163, 184)
16 EGOR (1154, 183)
17 TCN (918, 175)

Glenno
28-12-2006, 04:41 PM
Question, what does the number after the rating mean?

It represents the rating deviation (RD).

Glenno
28-12-2006, 04:43 PM
that can't be correct me above Kerry STead, though I did take the trophy off him for most improved player at CAnterbury League Club Chess Club, I almost needed a bundle of gelignite to get him to hand it over. I was followed by George Xie, wasn't I amongst the stars!

I assume my win over long shot has been included whose Glicko rating may have been 1650 or 1750, or was it a draw??

I did count it as a win for you, but I have already included the match in the calculation.

antichrist
28-12-2006, 04:48 PM
I did count it as a win for you, but I have already included the match in the calculation.

thanks, how come Kerry is down below, most unusual?? And GG is so high when his Glicko rating is down the bottom?

antichrist
01-01-2007, 10:07 AM
Are there any more rating points to be won if I play the Trompoholic?

Glenno
02-01-2007, 06:10 PM
RECENT RESULTS
1/1/2007 Howard Duggan v Axiom 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1828, RD 190)
4 Sunshine (1710, 175)
2 fireeater (1706, 300)
3 ElevatorEscapee (1674, 256)
6 Peter Knight (1632, 167)
5 Kevin Bonham (1629, 178)
7 Boris (1601, 138)
8 jase (1577, 276)
9 antichrist (1503, 224)
10 alipasha (1473, 253)
13 Howard Duggan (1460, 177)
12 Kerry Stead (1405, 178)
11 Axiom (1358, 157)
14 Glenno (1197, 225)
15 Zwischenzug (1163, 185)
16 EGOR (1108, 187)
17 TCN (897, 179)

Basil
02-01-2007, 06:16 PM
Are there any more rating points to be won if I play the Trompoholic?
Won or lost ;)

antichrist
02-01-2007, 07:11 PM
Won or lost ;)

I will be playing white next time so none of these queer openings, I want to check that will pick up points first

Glenno
04-01-2007, 06:26 PM
RECENT RESULTS
4/1/2007 Howard Duggan v Axiom 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1827, RD 190)
2 Sunshine (1710, 175)
3 fireeater (1705, 301)
4 ElevatorEscapee (1674, 256)
5 Peter Knight (1631, 168)
6 Kevin Bonham (1629, 178)
7 Boris (1601, 139)
8 jase (1577, 276)
9 Howard Duggan (1510, 162)
10 antichrist (1501, 224)
11 alipasha (1473, 253)
12 Kerry Stead (1405, 178)
13 Axiom (1319, 147)
14 Glenno (1197, 226)
15 Zwischenzug (1163, 187)
16 EGOR (1108, 187)
17 TCN (897, 180)

Glenno
06-01-2007, 04:46 PM
RECENT RESULTS
6/1/2007 Axiom v Sunshine 1-0

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1827, RD 191)
2 fireeater (1705, 301)
3 ElevatorEscapee (1674, 256)
4 Peter Knight (1631, 169)
5 Kevin Bonham (1629, 179)
6 Boris (1601, 140)
7 Sunshine (1592, 165)
8 jase (1577, 277)
9 Howard Duggan (1509, 163)
10 antichrist (1500, 223)
11 alipasha (1473, 253)
12 Axiom (1410, 144)
13 Kerry Stead (1405, 178)
14 Glenno (1197, 227)
15 Zwischenzug (1163, 187)
16 EGOR (1108, 188)
17 TCN (898, 180)

Basil
06-01-2007, 06:15 PM
Do I post results here? Do I PM? Do players wait for you to check the games yourself? Glenno, please let me know the procedure. I did ask once before via PM - perhaps you missed the question as it was at the end of other information.

Howard 1-0 Sunshine (fortunate) 06/01/07

antichrist
06-01-2007, 07:49 PM
Do I post results here? Do I PM? Do players wait for you to check the games yourself? Glenno, please let me know the procedure. I did ask once before via PM - perhaps you missed the question as it was at the end of other information.

Howard 1-0 Sunshine (fortunate) 06/01/07

I am still waiting to see if I will pick up decent rating points if I paste you again?? That was about a week ago.

Glenno
07-01-2007, 02:46 PM
I am still waiting to see if I will pick up decent rating points if I paste you again?? That was about a week ago.

The match from a week ago has already been included.


Do I post results here? Do I PM? Do players wait for you to check the games yourself? Glenno, please let me know the procedure. I did ask once before via PM - perhaps you missed the question as it was at the end of other information.

You can either post results or do a PM.


Howard 1-0 Sunshine (fortunate) 06/01/07

Thank you for the result. The updated standings are now as follows:

1 ggrayggray (rating 1827, RD 191)
2 fireeater (1705, 301)
3 ElevatorEscapee (1674, 256)
4 Peter Knight (1631, 169)
5 Kevin Bonham (1629, 179)
6 Boris (1601, 140)
7 Howard Duggan (1595, 153)
8 jase (1577, 277)
9 Sunshine (1502, 157)
10 antichrist (1500, 223)
11 alipasha (1473, 253)
12 Axiom (1410, 144)
13 Kerry Stead (1405, 178)
14 Glenno (1197, 227)
15 Zwischenzug (1163, 187)
16 EGOR (1108, 188)
17 TCN (898, 180)

antichrist
07-01-2007, 02:50 PM
Glenno, I mean if I play him again are there anymore points for me.
Where is Pax (whom defeated me) and Jonas Miller who withdrew (resigning) against myself.

Glenno
07-01-2007, 04:00 PM
Glenno, I mean if I play him again are there anymore points for me.

There are no extra points for inviting someone to play you. Ratings will only change by game results.


Where is Pax (whom defeated me).

Pax has not played for a long time.


Where is Jonas Miller who withdrew (resigning) against myself.

Thank you for the result.

Other results: Axiom defeated Mischa (1/1/2007)

The updated standings are now as follows:

1 ggrayggray (rating 1828, RD 192)
2 fireeater (1723, 300)
3 ElevatorEscapee (1675, 258)
4 Peter Knight (1630, 170)
5 Kevin Bonham (1628, 180)
6 Howard Duggan (1601, 152)
7 Boris (1601, 140)
8 jase (1577, 277)
9 alipasha (1515, 239)
10 Sunshine (1505, 157)
11 antichrist (1489, 212)
12 Axiom (1448, 138)
13 Kerry Stead (1402, 181)
14 Mischa (1290, 265)
15 Glenno (1196, 228)
16 Zwischenzug (1162, 187)
17 EGOR (1104, 189)
18 TCN (983, 181)

Note that Jonas Miller (rating 1286, RD 333) is not included because the rating deviation (RD) is considered too high to be included in the main standings.

Desmond
07-01-2007, 06:13 PM
6 Howard Duggan (1601, 152)
7 Boris (1601, 140)What the ...? I'm never gonna hear the end of this!

antichrist
07-01-2007, 06:22 PM
Note that Jonas Miller (rating 1286, RD 333) is not included because the rating deviation (RD) is considered too high to be included in the main standings.

speaka da Inglish, are you saying that I would gain too many points or whatta?

Glenno
07-01-2007, 06:54 PM
speaka da Inglish, are you saying that I would gain too many points or whatta?

It means that if you do not play, the rating deviation will increase over time, but the rating will stay the same.

antichrist
07-01-2007, 07:13 PM
It means that if you do not play, the rating deviation will increase over time, but the rating will stay the same.

so what would be the net result on my rating if that win was included?

I have learnt from my dealings with Bill to ask everything in simple Inglish and persist to receive simple-worded answers (simpleton?)

Desmond
07-01-2007, 07:26 PM
so what would be the net result on my rating if that win was included?

I have learnt from my dealings with Bill to ask everything in simple Inglish and persist to receive simple-worded answers (simpleton?)It is a pity you haven't learnt to work out the answers for yourself. If you play Howard and win, your rating goes up. If you play Howard and lose, it goes down. It's really not that hard. :eek:

antichrist
07-01-2007, 07:29 PM
It is a pity you haven't learnt to work out the answers for yourself. If you play Howard and win, your rating goes up. If you play Howard and lose, it goes down. It's really not that hard. :eek:

it is clear from the Jonas game that everything is not quite that simple. With a system that puts G Gray at the top but whom has a shocking Glicko rating I don't assume anything. It even had me ahead of Kerry S. I don't try and work out the answers as they have their own lingo.

Kevin Bonham
07-01-2007, 07:46 PM
Garvin is obviously much better at CC than normal chess. In the Interstate Challenge he was playing solo for Queensland and the Tassie team including a couple of c.2000s could not beat him.

antichrist
07-01-2007, 07:48 PM
Garvin is obviously much better at CC than normal chess. In the Interstate Challenge he was playing solo for Queensland and the Tassie team including a couple of c.2000s could not beat him.


But he is a Qlder and I learnt from playing against Howard that they love their computers in CC games. I have become wary now and trust no one.

Basil
07-01-2007, 09:27 PM
What the ...? I'm never gonna hear the end of this!
I think there's been a amistake. At post #95 Boris is ahead of Howard. At post #97, Howard has leap-frogged Boris with no further results from either player.

Basil
08-01-2007, 02:21 AM
But he is a Qlder and I learnt from playing against Howard that they love their computers in CC games. I have become wary now and trust no one.

Thanks. Was it the out-of-book opening or misplaing the endgame that gave me away?

Basil
08-01-2007, 05:18 PM
Duggan 1-0 Axiom (Game 3) 08/01/07

Zwischenzug
08-01-2007, 07:10 PM
Zwischenzug vs. Sunshine 0-1 (Game Anyone? Zwischenzug vs. Sunshine) 8/1/2007

Glenno
09-01-2007, 02:15 PM
Duggan 1-0 Axiom (Game 3) 08/01/07


Zwischenzug vs. Sunshine 0-1 (Game Anyone? Zwischenzug vs. Sunshine) 8/1/2007

1 ggrayggray (rating 1828, RD 193)
2 fireeater (1723, 300)
3 ElevatorEscapee (1675, 258)
4 Howard Duggan (1635, 143)
5 Peter Knight (1630, 170)
6 Kevin Bonham (1628, 181)
7 Boris (1599, 141)
8 jase (1577, 278)
9 Sunshine (1524, 152)
10 alipasha (1515, 240)
11 antichrist (1489, 213)
12 Axiom (1421, 132)
13 Kerry Stead (1402, 181)
14 Mischa (1291, 266)
15 Glenno (1196, 228)
16 Zwischenzug (1139, 178)
17 EGOR (1104, 189)
18 TCN (893, 182)

Basil
12-01-2007, 05:50 PM
Howard Duggan 0-1 White Elephant

Glenno
12-01-2007, 06:11 PM
Howard Duggan 0-1 White Elephant

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1826, RD 193)
2 White Elephant (1744, 265)
3 fireeater (1722, 301)
4 ElevatorEscapee (1674, 259)
5 Peter Knight (1629, 172)
6 Kevin Bonham (1628, 181)
7 Boris (1599, 143)
8 Howard Duggan (1585, 139)
9 jase (1577, 278)
10 Sunshine (1524, 154)
11 alipasha (1515, 240)
12 antichrist (1488, 213)
13 Axiom (1421, 134)
14 Kerry Stead (1403, 181)
15 Mischa (1291, 267)
16 Glenno (1196, 228)
17 Zwischenzug (1139, 180)
18 EGOR (1104, 190)
19 TCN (895, 183)

Zwischenzug
12-01-2007, 06:14 PM
Howard Duggan 1-0 Zwischenzug

Glenno
13-01-2007, 02:45 PM
Howard Duggan 1-0 Zwischenzug

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1826, RD 193)
2 White Elephant (1744, 265)
3 fireeater (1722, 301)
4 ElevatorEscapee (1674, 259)
5 Peter Knight (1629, 172)
6 Kevin Bonham (1628, 181)
7 Boris (1599, 143)
8 jase (1577, 278)
9 Sunshine (1524, 154)
10 alipasha (1515, 240)
11 Howard Duggan (1500, 137)
12 antichrist (1488, 213)
13 Axiom (1421, 134)
14 Kerry Stead (1403, 181)
15 Mischa (1291, 267)
16 Zwischenzug (1287, 175)
17 Glenno (1196, 228)
18 EGOR (1104, 190)
19 TCN (895, 183)

Glenno
13-01-2007, 03:37 PM
Howard Duggan 0-1 Glenno

Boris 1-0 Glenno

UPDATED STANDINGS
1 ggrayggray (rating 1826, RD 194)
2 White Elephant (1744, 265)
3 fireeater (1722, 301)
4 ElevatorEscapee (1674, 258)
5 Peter Knight (1629, 172)
6 Kevin Bonham (1627, 182)
7 Boris (1611, 140)
8 jase (1577, 279)
9 Sunshine (1524, 153)
10 alipasha (1515, 240)
11 antichrist (1488, 214)
12 Howard Duggan (1433, 133)
13 Axiom (1421, 135)
14 Kerry Stead (1403, 181)
15 Glenno (1345, 198)
16 Mischa (1291, 267)
17 Zwischenzug (1287, 175)
18 EGOR (1105, 191)
19 TCN (897, 183)

Basil
15-01-2007, 06:39 PM
Howard Duggan - Heaviestknight = null (by agreement) Is this acceptable, Glenno?
Howard Duggan 1 - 0 Elevator Escapee

Basil
15-01-2007, 07:59 PM
Axiom 1 - 0 Howard Duggan

Glenno
16-01-2007, 04:02 PM
Howard Duggan - Heaviestknight = null (by agreement) Is this acceptable, Glenno?

Since each player made at least three moves, I will count the game as a draw.


Howard Duggan 1 - 0 Elevator Escapee


Axiom 1 - 0 Howard Duggan

UPDATED STANDINGS (GLICKO)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1832, RD 199)
2 White Elephant (1747, 266)
3 fireeater (1724, 305)
4 Peter Knight (1633, 177)
5 Kevin Bonham (1629, 186)
6 Boris (1612, 144)
7 jase (1577, 281)
8 Heaviestknight (1563, 266)
9 Sunshine (1519, 157)
10 alipasha (1517, 246)
11 antichrist (1492, 219)
12 Axiom (1466, 129)
13 ElevatorEscapee (1458, 230)
14 Howard Duggan (1444, 121)
15 Kerry Stead (1400, 187)
16 Glenno (1349, 202)
17 Mischa (1290, 269)
18 Zwischenzug (1287, 177)
19 EGOR (1102, 195)
20 TCN (885, 188)

UPDATED STANDINGS (U.S.C.F.)
1 Peter Knight (1536)
2 ggrayggray (1508)
3 Sunshine (1471)
4 Kevin Bonham (1453)
5 Boris (1399)
6 ElevatorEscapee (1379)
7 Kerry Stead (1378)
8 antichrist (1325)
9 Howard Duggan (1277)
10 Axiom (1257)
11 Glenno (1151)
12 Zwischenzug (1032)
13 TCN (1005)
14 EGOR (871)

Basil
16-01-2007, 04:14 PM
Howard Duggan 0-1 Frosty

Glenno
16-01-2007, 04:38 PM
Howard Duggan 0-1 Frosty

UPDATED STANDINGS (GLICKO)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1839, RD 204)
2 White Elephant (1748, 267)
3 fireeater (1728, 309)
4 Peter Knight (1631, 183)
5 Kevin Bonham (1628, 190)
6 Boris (1613, 149)
7 jase (1577, 283)
8 Frosty (1569, 242)
9 Heaviestknight (1564, 267)
10 alipasha (1520, 252)
11 Sunshine (1513, 161)
12 antichrist (1500, 223)
13 Axiom (1456, 131)
14 ElevatorEscapee (1451, 236)
15 Howard Duggan (1411, 119)
16 Kerry Stead (1391, 193)
17 Glenno (1351, 206)
18 Mischa (1289, 270)
19 Zwischenzug (1286, 179)
20 EGOR (1100, 201)
21 TCN (873, 193)

UPDATED STANDINGS (U.S.C.F.)
1 Peter Knight (1536)
2 ggrayggray (1508)
3 Sunshine (1471)
4 Kevin Bonham (1453)
5 Boris (1399)
6 ElevatorEscapee (1379)
7 Kerry Stead (1378)
8 antichrist (1325)
9 Frosty (1309)
10 Axiom (1257)
11 Howard Duggan (1251)
12 Glenno (1151)
13 Zwischenzug (1032)
14 TCN (1005)
15 EGOR (871)

Basil
19-01-2007, 05:25 PM
Axiom 0-1 Howard Duggan [possum bait]

Glenno
19-01-2007, 06:04 PM
Axiom 0-1 Howard Duggan [possum bait]

Glenno 1-0 Howard Duggan [return match]

UPDATED STANDINGS (GLICKO)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1839, RD 204)
2 White Elephant (1747, 268)
3 fireeater (1727, 309)
4 Peter Knight (1632, 183)
5 Kevin Bonham (1628, 191)
6 Boris (1613, 150)
7 jase (1577, 283)
8 Frosty (1568, 242)
9 Heaviestknight (1563, 268)
10 alipasha (1519, 252)
11 Sunshine (1513, 162)
12 antichrist (1498, 224)
13 Glenno (1453, 181)
14 ElevatorEscapee (1451, 236)
15 Axiom (1416, 126)
16 Howard Duggan (1414, 11)
17 Kerry Stead (1392, 194)
18 Mischa (1289, 270)
19 Zwischenzug (1287, 180)
20 EGOR (1102, 201)
21 TCN (875, 194)

UPDATED STANDINGS (U.S.C.F.)
1 Peter Knight (1536)
2 ggrayggray (1508)
3 Sunshine (1471)
4 Kevin Bonham (1453)
5 Boris (1399)
6 ElevatorEscapee (1379)
7 Kerry Stead (1378)
8 antichrist (1325)
9 Frosty (1309)
10 Howard Duggan (1243)
11 Glenno (1237)
12 Axiom (1236)
13 Zwischenzug (1032)
14 TCN (1005)
15 EGOR (871)

ElevatorEscapee
21-01-2007, 12:24 PM
EE v Zwischenzug - Return Bout 1-0

Glenno
21-01-2007, 04:17 PM
EE v Zwischenzug - Return Bout 1-0

Updated standings (Glicko)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1838, RD 205)
2 White Elephant (1747, 269)
3 fireeater (1727, 309)
4 Peter Knight (1631, 184)
5 Kevin Bonham (1628, 191)
6 Boris (1613, 150)
7 jase (1577, 283)
8 Frosty (1567, 243)
9 Heaviestknight (1563, 269)
10 alipasha (1519, 252)
11 ElevatorEscapee (1517, 208)
12 Sunshine (1513, 162)
13 antichrist (1498, 224)
14 Glenno (1453, 182)
15 Axiom (1417, 126)
16 Howard Duggan (1414, 112)
17 Kerry Stead (1392, 194)
18 Mischa (1289, 271)
19 Zwischenzug (1245, 169)
20 EGOR (1102, 202)
21 TCN (875, 195)

Updated standings (U.S.C.F.)
1 Peter Knight (1536)
2 ggrayggray (1508)
3 Sunshine (1471)
4 Kevin Bonham (1453)
5 Boris (1399)
6 ElevatorEscapee (1386)
7 Kerry Stead (1378)
8 antichrist (1325)
9 Frosty (1309)
10 Howard Duggan (1243)
11 Glenno (1237)
12 Axiom (1236)
13 Zwischenzug (1020)
14 TCN (1005)
15 EGOR (871)

Glenno
02-02-2007, 03:49 PM
Recent results
23-1-2007 Axiom 0-1 Boris
24-1-2007 Axiom 1-0 Howard Duggan [game 1c]
27-1-2007 Axiom 1-0 Howard Duggan [game 1d]

Updated standings (Glicko)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1836, RD 206)
2 White Elephant (1747, 270)
3 fireeater (1726, 309)
4 Boris (1642, 144)
5 Peter Knight (1633, 185)
6 Kevin Bonham (1629, 193)
7 jase (1577, 285)
8 Frosty (1566, 244)
9 Heaviestknight (1563, 270)
10 ElevatorEscapee (1519, 209)
11 alipasha (1518, 252)
12 Sunshine (1515, 164)
13 antichrist (1496, 225)
14 Axiom (1465, 113)
15 Glenno (1452, 183)
16 Kerry Stead (1395, 195)
17 Howard Duggan (1354, 107)
18 Mischa (1290, 272)
19 Zwischenzug (1245, 172)
20 EGOR (1102, 203)
21 TCN (879, 195)

Updated standings (U.S.C.F.)
1 fireeater (1579)
2 White Elephant (1504)
3 ggrayggray (1447)
4 Sunshine (1411)
5 Peter Knight (1400)
6 Kevin Bonham (1390)
7 Boris (1364)
8 Kerry Stead (1342)
9 ElevatorEscapee (1334)
10 antichrist (1332)
11 alipasha (1319)
12 Frosty (1306)
13 Heaviestknight (1304)
14 jase (1300)
15 Axiom (1299)
16 Glenno (1161)
17 Howard Duggan (1144)
18 Zwischenzug (1117)
19 Mischa (1081)
20 TCN (909)
21 EGOR (801)

antichrist
04-02-2007, 06:16 PM
For this thread to have some meaning I would much prefer for the computer assisted games to be housed elsewhere. Otherwise I request my name out of the list as I never entered any comp or was notified that the games would be rated. I am happy for them rated but not lumped in with computer games results that I did not take part in, it is ridiculous

Basil
04-02-2007, 11:18 PM
I do agree with you AC. It's no biggie as a problem, but the list IS meaningless. I'd much prefer to be down the bottom on my own merits!

Glenno
05-02-2007, 07:14 PM
Recent results
31-1-2007 Axiom 1-0 Howard Duggan
3-2-2007 Sunshine 1-0 Howard Duggan

Updated standings (Glicko)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1833, RD 207)
2 White Elephant (1747, 271)
3 fireeater (1726, 310)
4 Boris (1642, 147)
5 Peter Knight (1633, 186)
6 Kevin Bonham (1628, 194)
7 jase (1577, 286)
8 Frosty (1565, 244)
9 Heaviestknight (1563, 271)
10 Sunshine (1553, 155)
11 ElevatorEscapee (1520, 211)
12 alipasha (1518, 252)
13 antichrist (1496, 226)
14 Axiom (1490, 112)
15 Glenno (1450, 185)
16 Kerry Stead (1398, 196)
17 Howard Duggan (1320, 102)
18 Mischa (1290, 274)
19 Zwischenzug (1246, 174)
20 EGOR (1102, 203)
21 TCN (883, 196)

Updated standings (U.S.C.F.)
1 fireeater (1579)
2 White Elephant (1504)
3 ggrayggray (1447)
4 Sunshine (1420)
5 Peter Knight (1400)
6 Kevin Bonham (1390)
7 Boris (1364)
8 Kerry Stead (1342)
9 ElevatorEscapee (1334)
10 antichrist (1332)
11 alipasha (1319)
12 Axiom (1313)
13 Frosty (1306)
14 Heaviestknight (1304)
15 jase (1300)
16 Glenno (1161)
17 Howard Duggan (1119)
18 Zwischenzug (1117)
19 Mischa (1081)
20 TCN (909)
21 EGOR (801)


I'd much prefer to be down the bottom on my own merits!

Well, you are going down on the ladder because most of the recent games on the forum have been losses.

Basil
05-02-2007, 08:32 PM
Well, you are going down on the ladder because most of the recent games on the forum have been losses.
I appreciate that Glen? I was actually trying to bring some levity, which may not be a brilliant idea when coupling it with a dry opinion (of removing the combined machine/ human opponents list). Thanks anyway.

antichrist
06-02-2007, 08:49 AM
So Glenno, can you either take me off the list or separate the ratings. Thanks. It is contaminated slop at the moment.

Kevin Bonham
06-02-2007, 02:17 PM
So Glenno, can you either take me off the list or separate the ratings. Thanks. It is contaminated slop at the moment.

Just get over yourself AC. It's hardly meant to be an international standard, it's just something for fun and that increases interest in CC games on here. I think including the "freestyle" games is OK given that there's no guarantee several of the other games rated here were not "freestyle" anyway (eg in the early days people didn't always draw distinctions.)

I remember when I ran a rating system for a bunch of Monopoly players who used to play in the old Physics clubroom at the Uni of Tas, and one of the players kept insisting that he not be rated because he never entered any competition (yadda yadda). I told him that since I was free to observe any game played in an open clubroom, and interpret the results in any way I pleased, there was nothing he could do to stop me including him, and if he didn't like it he should find somewhere else to play where I wouldn't see him doing so.

antichrist
06-02-2007, 02:26 PM
Well if you went down to Byron beach and took photos of the topless girls without permission, put them in a magazine and rated them you would be in big trouble man.

Glenno
06-02-2007, 03:24 PM
So Glenno, can you either take me off the list or separate the ratings. Thanks.

Updated standings (Glicko)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1833, RD 207)
2 White Elephant (1747, 271)
3 fireeater (1726, 310)
4 Boris (1642, 147)
5 Peter Knight (1633, 186)
6 Kevin Bonham (1628, 194)
7 jase (1577, 286)
8 Frosty (1565, 244)
9 Heaviestknight (1563, 271)
10 Sunshine (1553, 155)
11 ElevatorEscapee (1520, 211)
12 alipasha (1518, 252)
13 Axiom (1490, 112)
14 Glenno (1450, 185)
15 Kerry Stead (1398, 196)
16 Howard Duggan (1320, 102)
17 Mischa (1290, 274)
18 Zwischenzug (1246, 174)
19 EGOR (1102, 203)
20 TCN (883, 196)

Updated standings (U.S.C.F.)
1 fireeater (1579)
2 White Elephant (1504)
3 ggrayggray (1447)
4 Sunshine (1420)
5 Peter Knight (1400)
6 Kevin Bonham (1390)
7 Boris (1364)
8 Kerry Stead (1342)
9 ElevatorEscapee (1334)
10 alipasha (1319)
11 Axiom (1313)
12 Frosty (1306)
13 Heaviestknight (1304)
14 jase (1300)
15 Glenno (1161)
16 Howard Duggan (1119)
17 Zwischenzug (1117)
18 Mischa (1081)
19 TCN (909)
20 EGOR (801)

antichrist
06-02-2007, 06:36 PM
Thanks Glenno, you are more responsive and less autocratic, arrogant and pigheaded as KB.

Kevin Bonham
06-02-2007, 10:57 PM
Well if you went down to Byron beach and took photos of the topless girls without permission, put them in a magazine and rated them you would be in big trouble man.

Nice try but not comparable. Here you are displaying your own chess form publicly where anyone on the forum can already see it and rate it. It is not comparable to dragging something from a particular context into a new level of unintended public consumption. (I could go further in disposing of your dodgy example but I think that is sufficient.)

Basil
07-02-2007, 02:36 AM
Axiom v Howard Duggan - Possum Parade Game 03 - [07/02/07]

1/2 - 1/2

antichrist
07-02-2007, 03:05 PM
Nice try but not comparable. Here you are displaying your own chess form publicly where anyone on the forum can already see it and rate it. It is not comparable to dragging something from a particular context into a new level of unintended public consumption. (I could go further in disposing of your dodgy example but I think that is sufficient.)

John Howard is quoted in today's paper that he could get David Hickie home if he wanted to - but he won't - well you have his disease.

Glenno
07-02-2007, 03:31 PM
Updated standings (Glicko)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1833, RD 207)
2 White Elephant (1747, 272)
3 fireeater (1725, 310)
4 Boris (1641, 149)
5 Peter Knight (1633, 187)
6 Kevin Bonham (1628, 195)
7 jase (1577, 286)
8 Frosty (1565, 244)
9 Heaviestknight (1563, 272)
10 Sunshine (1553, 156)
11 ElevatorEscapee (1521, 212)
12 alipasha (1517, 253)
13 Axiom (1474, 110)
14 Glenno (1449, 187)
15 Kerry Stead (1399, 196)
16 Howard Duggan (1332, 102)
17 Mischa (1290, 275)
18 Zwischenzug (1246, 175)
19 EGOR (1103, 204)
20 TCN (885, 197)

Updated standings (U.S.C.F.)
1 fireeater (1579)
2 White Elephant (1504)
3 ggrayggray (1447)
4 Sunshine (1420)
5 Peter Knight (1400)
6 Kevin Bonham (1390)
7 Boris (1364)
8 Kerry Stead (1342)
9 ElevatorEscapee (1334)
10 alipasha (1319)
11 Frosty (1306)
12 Heaviestknight (1304)
13 Axiom (1301)
14 jase (1300)
15 Glenno (1161)
16 Howard Duggan (1133)
17 Zwischenzug (1117)
18 Mischa (1081)
19 TCN (909)
20 EGOR (801)

Glenno
10-02-2007, 04:27 PM
10/2/2007 Glenno 0-1 Boris

Updated standings (Glicko)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1832, RD 208)
2 White Elephant (1747, 273)
3 fireeater (1724, 311)
4 Boris (1667, 142)
5 Peter Knight (1633, 187)
6 Kevin Bonham (1629, 195)
7 jase (1577, 287)
8 Frosty (1564, 245)
9 Heaviestknight (1563, 273)
10 Sunshine (1554, 157)
11 ElevatorEscapee (1521, 212)
12 alipasha (1517, 253)
13 Axiom (1474, 112)
14 Glenno (1408, 172)
15 Kerry Stead (1400, 197)
16 Howard Duggan (1332, 104)
17 Mischa (1290, 276)
18 Zwischenzug (1246, 176)
19 EGOR (1102, 204)
20 TCN (886, 198)

Updated standings (U.S.C.F.)
1 fireeater (1579)
2 White Elephant (1504)
3 ggrayggray (1447)
4 Sunshine (1420)
5 Peter Knight (1400)
6 Kevin Bonham (1390)
7 Boris (1375)
8 Kerry Stead (1342)
9 ElevatorEscapee (1334)
10 alipasha (1319)
11 Frosty (1306)
12 Heaviestknight (1304)
13 Axiom (1301)
14 jase (1300)
15 Glenno (1147)
16 Howard Duggan (1133)
17 Zwischenzug (1117)
18 Mischa (1081)
19 TCN (909)
20 EGOR (801)

Basil
23-02-2007, 05:54 PM
Howard Duggan 0-1 Glenno [23/02/07]

Glenno
17-03-2007, 04:30 PM
Updated standings (Glicko)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1881, RD 191)
2 zigzag (1858, 224)
3 Boris (1832, 110)
4 White Elephant (1745, 280)
5 Sunshine (1665, 121)
6 peter_knight (1629, 191)
7 fireeater (1724, 311)
8 Kevin Bonham (1629, 201)
9 jase (1577, 292)
10 Frosty (1559, 247)
11 ElevatorEscapee (1526, 216)
12 alipasha (1513, 254)
13 antichrist (1486, 230)
14 Glenno (1477, 164)
15 Axiom (1472, 105)
16 Howard Duggan (1407, 106)
17 Kerry Stead (1406, 201)
18 Mischa (1291, 281)
19 Zwischenzug (1249, 186)
20 Heaviestknight (1247, 137)
21 EGOR (1106, 209)
22 TCN (901, 201)

Updated standings (U.S.C.F.)
1 zigzag (1701)
2 fireeater (1579)
3 Boris (1534)
4 White Elephant (1504)
5 Sunshine (1470)
6 ggrayggray (rating 1447)
7 peter_knight (1400)
8 Kevin Bonham (1390)
9 Kerry Stead (1342)
10 ElevatorEscapee (1334)
11 antichrist (1332)
12 alipasha (1319)
13 Axiom (1311)
14 Frosty (1306)
15 jase (1300)
16 Howard Duggan (1265)
17 Glenno (1185)
18 Zwischenzug (1117)
19 Heaviestknight (1106)
20 Mischa (1081)
21 TCN (909)
22 EGOR (801)

Updated standings (Ltrack)
1 Boris
2 Sunshine
3 Axiom
4 Howard Duggan
5 peter_knight
6 ggrayggray
7 Kevin Bonham
8 Kerry Steas
9 zigzag
10 Heaviestknight
11 ElevatorEscapee
12 Glenno
13 EGOR
14 jase
15 antichrist
16 Zwischenzug
17 Belthasar
18 fireeater
19 Frosty
20 Igor_Goldenberg
21 White Elephant
22 alipasha
23 Arrogant One
24 bigredcar
25 Michael Baron
26 Mischa
27 chessaddict
28 TCN

Zwischenzug
20-03-2007, 01:58 PM
Boris v Zwischenzug 1-0

Glenno
20-03-2007, 03:00 PM
Updated standings (Glicko)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1878, RD 191)
2 zigzag (1858, 225)
3 Boris (1833, 114)
4 White Elephant (1744, 281)
5 Sunshine (1664, 123)
6 Kevin Bonham (1628, 202)
7 peter_knight (1627, 192)
8 jase (1577, 292)
9 Frosty (1558, 247)
10 ElevatorEscapee (1524, 217)
11 alipasha (1512, 254)
12 antichrist (1484, 231)
13 Glenno (1476, 166)
14 Axiom (1470, 108)
15 Kerry Stead (1407, 201)
16 Howard Duggan (1406, 108)
17 Mischa (1290, 282)
18 Heaviestknight (1247, 139)
19 Zwischenzug (1240, 183)
20 EGOR (1107, 209)
21 TCN (902, 202)

Updated standings (U.S.C.F.)
1 zigzag (1701)
2 Boris (1538)
3 White Elephant (1504)
4 Sunshine (1470)
5 ggrayggray (rating 1447)
6 peter_knight (1400)
7 Kevin Bonham (1390)
8 Kerry Stead (1342)
9 ElevatorEscapee (1334)
10 antichrist (1332)
11 alipasha (1319)
12 Axiom (1311)
13 Frosty (1306)
14 jase (1300)
15 Howard Duggan (1265)
16 Glenno (1185)
17 Zwischenzug (1109)
18 Heaviestknight (1106)
19 Mischa (1081)
20 TCN (909)
21 EGOR (801)

Updated standings (Ltrack)
1 Boris
2 Sunshine
3 Axiom
4 Howard Duggan
5 peter_knight
6 ggrayggray
7 Kevin Bonham
8 Kerry Steas
9 zigzag
10 Heaviestknight
11 ElevatorEscapee
12 Glenno
13 EGOR
14 jase
15 antichrist
16 Zwischenzug
17 Belthasar
18 fireeater
19 Frosty
20 Igor_Goldenberg
21 White Elephant
22 alipasha
23 Arrogant One
24 bigredcar
25 Michael Baron
26 Mischa
27 chessaddict
28 TCN

antichrist
20-03-2007, 03:21 PM
Now Glenno, remember I don't want to be on your contaminated slop list - now take me off again and thanks. Don't get that arrogance that KB has - he is about 50 and still not married so I would not recommend it at all.

Glenno
20-03-2007, 07:14 PM
Now Glenno, remember I don't want to be on your contaminated slop list - now take me off again and thanks. Don't get that arrogance that KB has - he is about 50 and still not married so I would not recommend it at all.

Updated standings (Glicko)
1 ggrayggray (rating 1878, RD 191)
2 zigzag (1858, 225)
3 Boris (1833, 114)
4 White Elephant (1744, 281)
5 Sunshine (1664, 123)
6 Kevin Bonham (1628, 202)
7 peter_knight (1627, 192)
8 jase (1577, 292)
9 Frosty (1558, 247)
10 ElevatorEscapee (1524, 217)
11 alipasha (1512, 254)
12 Glenno (1476, 166)
13 Axiom (1470, 108)
14 Kerry Stead (1407, 201)
15 Howard Duggan (1406, 108)
16 Mischa (1290, 282)
17 Heaviestknight (1247, 139)
18 Zwischenzug (1240, 183)
19 EGOR (1107, 209)
20 TCN (902, 202)

Updated standings (U.S.C.F.)
1 zigzag (1701)
2 Boris (1538)
3 White Elephant (1504)
4 Sunshine (1470)
5 ggrayggray (rating 1447)
6 peter_knight (1400)
7 Kevin Bonham (1390)
8 Kerry Stead (1342)
9 ElevatorEscapee (1334)
10 alipasha (1319)
11 Axiom (1311)
12 Frosty (1306)
13 jase (1300)
14 Howard Duggan (1265)
15 Glenno (1185)
16 Zwischenzug (1109)
17 Heaviestknight (1106)
18 Mischa (1081)
19 TCN (909)
20 EGOR (801)

Updated standings (Ltrack)
1 Boris
2 Sunshine
3 Axiom
4 Howard Duggan
5 peter_knight
6 ggrayggray
7 Kevin Bonham
8 Kerry Steas
9 zigzag
10 Heaviestknight
11 ElevatorEscapee
12 Glenno
13 EGOR
14 jase
15 Zwischenzug
16 Belthasar
17 fireeater
18 Frosty
19 Igor_Goldenberg
20 White Elephant
21 alipasha
22 Arrogant One
23 bigredcar
24 Michael Baron
25 Mischa
26 chessaddict
27 TCN

zigzag
06-04-2007, 11:03 AM
Glenno,I presume my correspondence rating is so high because I have only completed one game which I won and that when I eventually lose it will drop considerably.

Can you explain to me the difference between the updated standings glicko list and the uscf list? Garvin has a rating difference of nearly 400 points between the two,how is this possible?:hmm:

And lastly,what does the Ltrack list mean?:hmm:

Basil
14-05-2007, 08:35 PM
Howard (Gunner) Duggan 1-0 Cameron D [9/5/07]

FWIW
DarkShadowDog 0-1 Howard (Gunner) Duggan [forfeit]

Axiom
14-05-2007, 09:36 PM
regardless, i like Ltrack ! :clap: :eh: :doh: ;) :lol:

Glenno
16-05-2007, 04:36 PM
I have now decided to split the standings, distinguishing between freestle games and non-freestyle games.

UPDATED STANDINGS (NON-FREESTYLE)
1 Boris
2 Sunshine
3 Axiom
4 Gunner Duggan (Howard Duggan)
5 peter_knight
6 zigzag
7 Kerry Stead
8 Glenno
9 antichrist
10 Kevin Bonham
11 Zwischenzug
12 Heaviestknight
13 ElevatorEscapee
14 EGOR
15 jase
16 alipasha
17 Belthasar
18 fireeater
19 frosty
20 ggrayggray
21 Igor_Goldenberg
22 White Elephant
23 Arrogant One
24 bigredcar
25 CameronD
26 chessaddict
27 darkshadowdog
28 Daryl
29 JonasMiller
30 Michael Baron
31 Mischa
32 TCN

UPDATED STANDINGS (FREESTYLE)
1 ggrayggray
2 Kevin Bonham
3 Boris
4 Frosty
5 Gunner Duggan (Howard Duggan)
6 Glenno

Basil
16-05-2007, 04:41 PM
I think I might have been elevated a tad too far, Glenno. May I ask what system you have used? And anything with Boris on top is a crock without any thought needed whatsoever - he's overrated you know ;)

Glenno
16-05-2007, 04:52 PM
I think I might have been elevated a tad too far, Glenno. May I ask what system you have used? And anything with Boris on top is a crock without any thought needed whatsoever - he's overrated you know.

The system was based on the number of wins over the past 12 months.

Because the freestyle and non-freestyle matches have now been separated, rating systems have been put off temporarily.

Basil
16-05-2007, 04:52 PM
Thanks! I'll take it.

Glenno
31-05-2007, 05:18 PM
UPDATED STANDINGS (NON-FREESTYLE)
1 Boris
2 Sunshine
3 Axiom
4 Gunner Duggan
5 peter_knight
6 zigzag
7 Kerry Stead
8 Zwischenzug
9 Glenno
10 Kevin Bonham
11 Heaviestknight
12 ElevatorEscapee
13 EGOR
14 jase
15 antichrist
16 Belthasar
17 fireeater
18 Frosty
19 ggrayggray
20 Igor_Goldenberg
21 White Elephant
22 alipasha
23 likesforests
24 Arrogant One
25 bigredcar
26 CameronD
27 darkshadowdog
28 Daryl
29 Mischa
30 chessaddict
31 TCN

Updated lists only consider any who have finished at least one game in the previous 12 months. The order is determined as follows:


Highest number of wins.
Highest total score (win = 1, draw = 0.5, loss = 0).
Lowest number of games played.
User name (in alphabetical order).

Glenno
30-06-2007, 04:30 PM
UPDATED STANDINGS (NON-FREESTYLE)
1 Boris
2 Sunshine
3 Axiom
4 Gunner Duggan
5 peter_knight
6 zigzag
7 Kerry Stead
8 Zwischenzug
9 Glenno
10 Kevin Bonham
11 Heaviestknight
12 ElevatorEscapee
13 EGOR
14 jase
15 antichrist
16 fireeater
17 Frosty
18 ggrayggray
19 White Elephant
20 alipasha
21 likesforests
22 bigredcar
23 CameronD
24 darkshadowdog
25 Daryl
26 Mischa
27 chessaddict
28 TCN

UPDATED STANDINGS (FREESTYLE)
1 ggrayggray
2 Kevin Bonham
3 mangafranga
4 Boris
5 Zwischenzug
6 Frosty
7 Gunner Duggan
8 Glenno
9 Tyson

Glenno
04-08-2007, 05:31 PM
UPDATED STANDINGS (NON-FREESTYLE)
1 Boris
2 Gunner Duggan
3 Sunshine
4 Axiom
5 zigzag
6 Glenno
7 peter_knight
8 Zwischenzug
9 Heaviestknight
10 Phil Bourke
11 ElevatorEscapee
12 Kerry Stead
13 Kevin Bonham
14 ggrayggray
=15 Frosty
=15 White Elephant
17 EGOR
18 antichrist
19 likesforests
20 jase
21 fireeater
22 alipasha
23 Mischa
=24 darkshadows
=24 Daryl
26 CameronD
27 TCN
28 chessaddict

UPDATED STANDINGS (FREESTYLE)
1 ggrayggray
2 mangafranga
3 Kevin Bonham
4 Zwischenzug
5 Boris
6 Frosty
7 Gunner Duggan
8 Glenno
9 Tyson

Glenno
03-09-2007, 08:25 PM
UPDATED STANDINGS (NON-FREESTYLE)
1 Gunner Duggan
2 Axiom
3 Boris
4 alipasha
5 zigzag
6 Sunshine
7 Glenno
8 peter_knight
9 Zwischenzug
10 EGOR
11 Heaviestknight
12 DanielBell
13 CameronD
14 Phil Bourke
15 ElevatorEscapee
16 Kevin Bonham
17 ggraggray
18 Kerry Stead
=19 Frosty
=19 White Elephant
21 likesforests
22 antichrist
23 jase
24 fireeater
25 Mischa
=26 darkshadows
=26 Daryl
=28 DMarinas
=28 Kaitlin
30 TCN
31 chessaddict

Basil
03-09-2007, 10:03 PM
UPDATED STANDINGS (NON-FREESTYLE)
1 Gunner Duggan
2 Axiom
3 Boris

I find this extraooooooooooooooooooordinarily difficult to believe! :eek:

Kevin Bonham
03-09-2007, 10:05 PM
I find this extraooooooooooooooooooordinarily difficult to believe! :eek:

It indicates number of successes rather than success rate.

DanielBell
09-09-2007, 02:42 PM
Why am I on that list I haven't played any correspondence matches! I will though if anyone wants to play! :D

Glenno
13-09-2007, 03:22 PM
Why am I on that list I haven't played any correspondence matches?

I apologise for including you on the list. The list below now excludes the user name.

UPDATED STANDINGS (NON-FREESTYLE)
1 Gunner Duggan
2 Axiom
3 Boris
4 alipasha
5 zigzag
6 Sunshine
7 Glenno
8 peter_knight
9 Zwischenzug
10 EGOR
11 Heaviestknight
12 CameronD
13 Phil Bourke
14 ElevatorEscapee
15 Kevin Bonham
16 ggraggray
17 Kerry Stead
=18 Frosty
=18 White Elephant
20 likesforests
21 antichrist
22 jase
23 fireeater
24 Mischa
=25 darkshadows
=25 Daryl
27 Kaitlin
28 TCN
29 chessaddict

Basil
15-10-2007, 04:29 PM
Ax To Grind

Axiom 0-1 Gunner Duggan

Glenno
10-02-2008, 11:53 AM
UPDATED STANDINGS (NON-FREESTYLE)
1 Gunner Duggan
2 Boris
3 alipasha
4 zigzag
5 Axiom
6 Glenno
7 Sunshine
8 CameronD
9 Zwischenzug
10 Heaviestknight
=11 Kevin Bonham
=11 peter_knight
=13 ggraggray
=13 Phil Bourke
15 EGOR
16 likesforests
=17 darkshadows
=17 Daryl
=17 Kaitlin
20 chessaddict

ElevatorEscapee
11-02-2008, 11:53 PM
I apologise for including you on the list. The list below now excludes the user name.

UPDATED STANDINGS (NON-FREESTYLE)
1 Gunner Duggan
2 Axiom
3 Boris
4 alipasha
5 zigzag
6 Sunshine
7 Glenno
8 peter_knight
9 Zwischenzug
10 EGOR
11 Heaviestknight
12 CameronD
13 Phil Bourke
14 ElevatorEscapee
15 Kevin Bonham
16 ggraggray
17 Kerry Stead
=18 Frosty
=18 White Elephant
20 likesforests
21 antichrist
22 jase
23 fireeater
24 Mischa
=25 darkshadows
=25 Daryl
27 Kaitlin
28 TCN
29 chessaddict

Nice to see I am one ahead of Kevin Bonham! I wonder if he wishes to challenge me! ;)

Kevin Bonham
11-02-2008, 11:59 PM
Nice to see I am one ahead of Kevin Bonham! I wonder if he wishes to challenge me! ;)

While appreciating that Glenno puts the work he does into maintaining the ladder, since he switched over to measuring it by number of wins rather than a Glicko-style system I have not found it meaningful. It is now a hybrid of activity and performance rather than an indicator of performance alone.

Glenno
17-06-2008, 11:51 PM
Could this thread be made a sticky if it is not so already?

:D Good idea. :D

[done - mod]

Axiom
18-06-2008, 12:09 AM
While appreciating that Glenno puts the work he does into maintaining the ladder, since he switched over to measuring it by number of wins rather than a Glicko-style system I have not found it meaningful. It is now a hybrid of activity and performance rather than an indicator of performance alone.
I concur , we must adopt a performance based rating system as soon as practicably possible.

Glenno
25-07-2008, 09:38 PM
While appreciating that Glenno puts the work he does into maintaining the ladder, since he switched over to measuring it by number of wins rather than a Glicko-style system I have not found it meaningful. It is now a hybrid of activity and performance rather than an indicator of performance alone.


I concur , we must adopt a performance based rating system as soon as practicably possible.

In response to these comments, a poll has been created at this thread (http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=8429).

Glenno
25-08-2008, 03:21 PM
Final tally of votes in the poll:

Glicko-1: 5 votes.
Glicko-2: 2 votes.
IECG: 1 vote.
USCF: 3 votes.

Therefore, the Glicko-1 system will be implemented.