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antichrist
09-03-2005, 03:47 PM
Sorry but you lost toss.

1. P - D4

Spiny Norman
09-03-2005, 06:32 PM
1. ... Nf6

Patzer (my wife) in the background yelling "He'll thrash you ..." at me .... I think she thinks you're going to win!

eclectic
09-03-2005, 06:48 PM
Sorry but you lost toss.

1. P - D4

now don't forget A/C n the event of any dispute scoresheets that do not have algebraic notation may not be admissible as evidence

;)

but i doubt this will be FIDE rated!

eclectic

wait a sec! it IS algebraic .... i' m distracted by the "P"

sorry A/C

Spiny Norman
09-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Patzer (my wife) in the background yelling "He'll thrash you ..." at me .... I think she thinks you're going to win!

Or worse, maybe she really wants you to win! :doh:

antichrist
09-03-2005, 09:24 PM
1. P - d4 ...N - f6
2. P - c4

Frosty I am so much out of practise that I expect nothing. I have forgotten this opening, I did read it once, I think Justine Tan used it about 2 years ago when he won a title. Your missus probably wants me to keep you occupied, you have to learn how they think.

I use the older notation, mainly because when teaching beginners it is more obvious.

Spiny Norman
10-03-2005, 07:20 AM
1. P - d4 ... N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5

No worries, I don't mind the slightly different style notation. I grew up with P-K4 and all that stuff anyway.

Thought I'd see how you like the Benoni (or variants thereof). I've played against the Benko Gambit twice lately as White and lost both games (to a much stronger player tho') and once as Black and lost that game too (against a junior less than half my age). But its still one of my favourite "attacking defences" because it is usually so unbalanced.

I'm off to work now ....

antichrist
10-03-2005, 10:04 AM
[QUOTE=Frosty]
1. P - d4 ... N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5

I am trying to get my act together after been off for virtually three weeks. so much to catch up on

Spiny Norman
11-03-2005, 05:59 PM
1. P - d4 ... N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6

antichrist
11-03-2005, 09:31 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6)

where angels fear to tread

Spiny Norman
12-03-2005, 06:02 AM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6

Off into relatively uncharted territory then ....

Spiny Norman
12-03-2005, 06:19 AM
The battle lines have been drawn ... its Naughtiness VS Niceness! ;)


Event: Correspondence Game
Round: 1
Site: Chess Chat Bulletin Board
Started: 9/3/2005
White: AntiChrist (a.k.a. Tool of Satan)
Black: Frosty (a.k.a. Defender of the Faith)
Result: oooohhhh ... wouldn't you like to know
ECO: A60
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.dxe6 fxe6

antichrist
12-03-2005, 06:58 AM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6

Off into relatively uncharted territory then ....

I have played in a few social games but remember nothing about it. Have to go and try to brain it out, if it is not too late.

Spiny Norman
12-03-2005, 11:21 AM
4. Nc3 is more common ("main line").

A junior played 4. d6 (?!) against me in a casual game and I ended up losing ... instead of surrounding and liquidating the impudent pawn I left it there too long and let it cramp my style. I did a bit of analysis after that one and I'd be more than happy if he played it again. :evil:

antichrist
12-03-2005, 12:09 PM
without any analysis I would not play P-D6 in a fit. the ball is in my court now. I will look at shortly hopefully as just come from back from surf.

antichrist
12-03-2005, 03:44 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3

Spiny Norman
12-03-2005, 04:33 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5

antichrist
12-03-2005, 07:35 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5)
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Kaitlin
12-03-2005, 07:52 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5)
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mmm its almost in code... but i worked it out :)

oh and

Goooooooooooooooooo Frosty :)

(sorry a/c :P hehe)

antichrist
12-03-2005, 07:58 PM
mmm its almost in code... but i worked it out :)

oh and

Goooooooooooooooooo Frosty :)

(sorry a/c :P hehe)

It is Frosty's opening which I am just guessing, hoping my general principles will hold up, but I can see him controlling the centre.

If you jump up and down and shakey-shakey maybe you will distract him into a mistake

Spiny Norman
13-03-2005, 12:05 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P

Spiny Norman
13-03-2005, 12:07 PM
If you jump up and down and shakey-shakey maybe you will distract him into a mistake

Nah, I've got the blinkers on ... focus, focus, focus ... time for relaxation and play when the battle is over. :P

antichrist
13-03-2005, 07:32 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5

I think I was distracted not you.

Spiny Norman
13-03-2005, 07:52 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4

Nighty-nght, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite!

Rincewind
13-03-2005, 07:56 PM
Nighty-nght, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite!

PS He's being serious about the bed-bugs. Watch out. :D

antichrist
13-03-2005, 08:04 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4

Spiny Norman
14-03-2005, 10:12 AM
8. ... B - e7

White: AntiChrist
Black: Frosty
ECO: A60 (Benoni Defence)


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.dxe6 fxe6 5.Nc3 d5
6.cxd5 exd5 7.Bg5 d4 8.Ne4 Be7

antichrist
14-03-2005, 01:55 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6)

Spiny Norman
14-03-2005, 06:14 PM
9. ... B x N

antichrist
14-03-2005, 10:31 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ...B x N
10. B - f4

Spiny Norman
15-03-2005, 04:41 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O

antichrist
15-03-2005, 04:50 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3

Frosty, I am going away tomorrow away from computers, hopefully I will still make regular moves.

Spiny Norman
15-03-2005, 05:07 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3

Frosty, I am going away tomorrow away from computers, hopefully I will still make regular moves.

No problem. I'm in no particular hurry .... we can resume when you return at your convenience.

11. ... Qa5+

antichrist
15-03-2005, 05:21 PM
How dare you so early in the game. I was hoping for a nice easy build up and castling but you are storming the temple. I hope you are repelled just like the Japs were.

Spiny Norman
15-03-2005, 05:24 PM
How dare you so early in the game. I was hoping for a nice easy build up and castling but you are storming the temple. I hope you are repelled just like the Japs were.

Well, its been there for a while beckoning :) ... and its a good opportunity to make you think about retreating your bishop (or, heaven forbid, allowing me to swap off Queens!).

You'd be thinking of the battle of Milne Bay perhaps? (the first land defeat of the Japanese in WW2).

antichrist
15-03-2005, 05:43 PM
Isn't the saying: the less pieces on the board the safer those advancing pawns become. I presume Milne Bay is in PNG, if so well then "Yes". I will try and brain out on the plane tomorrow.

Spiny Norman
15-03-2005, 05:47 PM
Isn't the saying: the less pieces on the board the safer those advancing pawns become. I presume Milne Bay is in PNG, if so well then "Yes". I will try and brain out on the plane tomorrow.

Yep, PNG .... I believe it was a crucial airfield and might have been pretty much the last significant defensive position between the Imperial Army and Port Moresby. The Aussies defended it like crazy men. In terms of Japanese advances on the ground, it marked the furthest point of their advance (I think, my memory of WW2 history is a little lacking nowadays).

The pawns are potentially a tad vulnerable, but they do nicely serve the purpose of restricting White's development at the moment. One never knows when one of them might launch a kamikaze attack.... :cool:

antichrist
15-03-2005, 06:25 PM
Yep, PNG .... I believe it was a crucial airfield and might have been pretty much the last significant defensive position between the Imperial Army and Port Moresby. The Aussies defended it like crazy men. In terms of Japanese advances on the ground, it marked the furthest point of their advance (I think, my memory of WW2 history is a little lacking nowadays).

The pawns are potentially a tad vulnerable, but they do nicely serve the purpose of restricting White's development at the moment. One never knows when one of them might launch a kamikaze attack.... :cool:

Go ahead and launch a kamikaze attack, that was in desparation when no other options. I know those pawns are going to make or break you. I was in a similar situation the other day, made a few blunders as not thinking, then in complete desparation brained it and managed to hold up and win. As I get older I find it much more difficult to "brain it".

An uncle of mine fought in one of those big battles in PNG and become a hero. But for about 30 years later he would get up in the middle of the night, get up on the kitchen table with his bayonet and swish it around everywhere and yelling out. Poor guy, a very nice chap.

antichrist
21-03-2005, 10:06 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3 Q - a5+
12. B - d2

sorry so long, exchanging queens was possible for me I think

Spiny Norman
22-03-2005, 05:54 PM
12. ... Qc7


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.dxe6 fxe6 5.Nc3 d5
6.cxd5 exd5 7.Bg5 d4 8.Ne4 Be7 9.Nxf6+ Bxf6 10.Bf4 O-O
11.Nf3 Qa5+ 12.Bd2 Qc7

antichrist
22-03-2005, 07:54 PM
Frosty, I warn you. I have gone to sleep while waiting during games, woke up and played my best chess and bet players I had never beaten before. I admit some got upset when they had to bump me to wake me up.

What about my poor uncle. Everytime I am in a RSL and they play the Ode I think of my uncle.

Spiny Norman
24-03-2005, 07:00 AM
Frosty, I warn you. I have gone to sleep while waiting during games, woke up and played my best chess and bet players I had never beaten before. I admit some got upset when they had to bump me to wake me up.

BUMP! :eek:

Its your move ....

antichrist
24-03-2005, 02:57 PM
On impulse
P - G3

I ended up changing my whole itinery for last week, forfeiting airline tickests and was busy and tired. Hopefully I can get near a computer over weekend.

Spiny Norman
25-03-2005, 11:44 AM
13. ... B - K3

antichrist
27-03-2005, 05:46 PM
13. ... B - K3

I went away with your move in my head to work it out, then I could not remember the equasion, whether a D or E file or whatever, no wonder!

Spiny Norman
27-03-2005, 06:54 PM
Yeah, sorry 'bout that .... I think I'll stick to strict algebraic from here on .... the mixture has been getting me a bit confused. :doh:

That should've read B-e6.

antichrist
28-03-2005, 01:22 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3 Q - a5+
12. B - d2 ... Q-c7
13. P - g3...B - e6
14. P - b2

why not?

Spiny Norman
29-03-2005, 07:02 PM
why not?

That's a Clayton's move (the move you make when you're not making a move!). ;)

Did you mean P-B3 or P-B4 ? I'll take P-B2 if you really mean it, I could use an extra tempo!

antichrist
29-03-2005, 07:06 PM
P - b3

I don't think I am at zwang zwang yet

Spiny Norman
29-03-2005, 07:51 PM
14. ... N - d7

antichrist
30-03-2005, 09:39 AM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3 Q - a5+
12. B - d2 ... Q-c7
13. P - g3...B - e6
14. P - b2 14. ... N - d7
15. R - c1...
in time trouble so another quickie

Spiny Norman
31-03-2005, 07:30 AM
in time trouble so another quickie

... so early in the game? ;) Quick move from me too, I have to race off to work. Lots of stuff happening there, very distracting! Plus I'm playing a 1793-rated guy tonight and haven't spent any time preparing yet.

15. ... R(a8) - e8


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.dxe6 fxe6 5.Nc3 d5
6.cxd5 exd5 7.Bg5 d4 8.Ne4 Be7 9.Nxf6+ Bxf6 10.Bf4 O-O
11.Nf3 Qa5+ 12.Bd2 Qc7 13.g3 Be6 14.b3 Nd7 15.Rc1 Rae8

antichrist
31-03-2005, 06:01 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3 Q - a5+
12. B - d2 ... Q-c7
13. P - g3...B - e6
14. P - b2 14. ... N - d7
15. R - c1...R (a8) - e8
16. B - g2
a real quickie

Spiny Norman
01-04-2005, 07:50 AM
a real quickie

I spent a little bit of time on this one (about 10 minutes, which is a lot for me!).

16. ... P-d3

Hand over that pawn!

Spiny Norman
01-04-2005, 08:22 AM
I'm playing a 1793-rated guy tonight and haven't spent any time preparing yet.

... for the record, I lost a pawn around move 18 with a hopeless blunder and it was all over by move 30. Not sure if preparation would have helped much as I was not in a good frame of mind on the night (lots of administrative stuff to do, new players at the club needing to be looked after, etc). Ended up on 2/5 having played against field average of 1500+, so that should give my rating a bit of a boost in the next list. I'll post a tournament report in the Croydon Chess thread. Results are already up on our website.

antichrist
01-04-2005, 06:22 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3 Q - a5+
12. B - d2 ... Q-c7
13. P - g3...B - e6
14. P - b2 14. ... N - d7
15. R - c1...R (a8) - e8
16. B - g2...P - d3
17. P - e3 ...B - g4
18. 0 - 0
is your horse saddled up?

Spiny Norman
01-04-2005, 06:54 PM
17. ... B-g4

Don't worry, I've got enough initiative to keep me occupied for a few more moves ... I hope ... :hmm:

Spiny Norman
01-04-2005, 09:34 PM
18. 0 - 0
is your horse saddled up?

I was going to wait until the morning to think through it properly, but since you're egging me on ... :) ... hi-ho silver!

18. ... N-e5

antichrist
02-04-2005, 08:57 AM
[QUOTE=antichrist]1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3 Q - a5+
12. B - d2 ... Q-c7
13. P - g3...B - e6
14. P - b2 14. ... N - d7
15. R - c1...R (a8) - e8
16. B - g2...P - d3
17. P - e3 ...B - g4
18. 0 - 0 ...N - e5
19. P - h3? ...N x N+ (f3)
20. B x N (f3) ...B x f3 serves me right for moving under time pressure
21. R - e1

Spiny Norman
02-04-2005, 12:02 PM
19. ... Nxf3+

Spiny Norman
02-04-2005, 06:36 PM
20. B x N (f3)

20. ... B x P (h3)


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.dxe6 fxe6 5.Nc3 d5
6.cxd5 exd5 7.Bg5 d4 8.Ne4 Be7 9.Nxf6+ Bxf6 10.Bf4 O-O
11.Nf3 Qa5+ 12.Bd2 Qc7 13.g3 Be6 14.b3 Nd7 15.Rc1 Rae8
16.Bg2 d3 17.e3 Bg4 18.O-O Ne5 19.h3 Nxf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxh3

Spiny Norman
03-04-2005, 11:30 AM
serves me right for moving under time pressure
21. R - e1

I think things were a bit tough for you no matter what, because of the pawn constricting your position and the pin on the knight.

21. ... Be5

antichrist
03-04-2005, 06:41 PM
[QUOTE=Frosty]I think things were a bit tough for you no matter what, because of the pawn constricting your position and the pin on the knight.

21. ... Be5 ...K - h2

another day I will analyse. Because that centre pawn cannot simply be supported by another pawn in long term I was not overly worried about it. Tempory constricting yes. The pin on knight I thought could handle if I had just moved king up earlier maybe. I will try and get someone with computer to analyse. You do if you can.

Spiny Norman
03-04-2005, 06:53 PM
22. ... Be6

antichrist
03-04-2005, 07:05 PM
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3 Q - a5+
12. B - d2 ... Q-c7
13. P - g3...B - e6
14. P - b2 14. ... N - d7
15. R - c1...R (a8) - e8
16. B - g2...P - d3
17. P - e3 ...B - g4
18. 0 - 0 ...N - e5
19. P - h3? ...N x N+ (f3)
20. B x N (f3) ...B x f3
21. R - e1 ... Be5
22. K - h2 ...B e6
23. K - g2 ... b5
24. B - e4
I am not concentrating at all, the pope death has riled me. You also taking my pawn

Spiny Norman
03-04-2005, 09:10 PM
I almost sac'd the rook for the bishop there to see if I could make your life uncomfortable on the white squares .... but I have something else in mind .... so ....

23. ... b5

antichrist
03-04-2005, 10:26 PM
have moved in above post
B - e4

Spiny Norman
04-04-2005, 07:22 AM
have moved in above post
24. B - e4

I was just about to press the button on 24. ... c5 ?? as I'd forgotten about the pin against the queen (its been there for so long). Hmmm. I hadn't anticipated Be4, I thought you might've activated your black-square bishop instead. If I lose that advanced pawn your position will free right up, so:

24. ... Qd6

antichrist
04-04-2005, 10:21 AM
Frosty, I am very busy today and now at crucial stage so will delay for awhile
thanks

Spiny Norman
04-04-2005, 07:52 PM
Frosty, I am very busy today and now at crucial stage so will delay for awhile

That's fine ... it'll give me some time to think (I need to find a way to get my sub-conscious working on it I think!).

I pitched a "new line of business" opportunity to the powers that be at work this morning. They said "Yes, go ahead", so now I have a whole new department to build on top of my existing IT responsibilities. So no free time for social chess for me after this game is over .... it'll be WORK, WORK, WORK until the end of the year.

Spiny Norman
04-04-2005, 08:15 PM
Here's the plot to date:

AC wanted a game. I waited until he was in a weakened state with a "mystery illness" (prob. nothing more exciting than a cold) before agreeing to play. Its a battle of niceness VS naughtiness. May the best philosophy win. :uhoh:

I decided to play the Benoni .... I have lost my last three rated games when the Benoni has been played (so it seems it doesn't matter whether I play against it with White or with it with Black, I lose). But I love the opening as it is usually so unbalanced and exciting.

AC played the pawn exchange on move 4 ... not something that I have ever played against before ... so I am in uncharted territory. AC's position has been cramped due to the pawn that settled in its advanced post on D3, but he now looks like starting to unravel that and get some decent counter-play down the H-file (I am now starting to wonder whether I should've grabbed that pawn or whether there were other ways to increase the pressure).


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.dxe6 fxe6 5.Nc3 d5
6.cxd5 exd5 7.Bg5 d4 8.Ne4 Be7 9.Nxf6+ Bxf6 10.Bf4 O-O
11.Nf3 Qa5+ 12.Bd2 Qc7 13.g3 Be6 14.b3 Nd7 15.Rc1 Rae8
16.Bg2 d3 17.e3 Bg4 18.O-O Ne5 19.h3 Nxf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxh3
21.Re1 Be5 22.Kh2 Be6 23.Kg2 b5 24.Be4 Qd6

antichrist
05-04-2005, 07:49 AM
That's fine ... it'll give me some time to think (I need to find a way to get my sub-conscious working on it I think!).

I pitched a "new line of business" opportunity to the powers that be at work this morning. They said "Yes, go ahead", so now I have a whole new department to build on top of my existing IT responsibilities. So no free time for social chess for me after this game is over .... it'll be WORK, WORK, WORK until the end of the year.

I was like that too for decades then once I got my first million I did not care anymore. Now I am the laziest so and so around. I just try to rely on really good out of the blue investments to keep my head above water.

I did not play serious chess until well over the age that champions retire.

antichrist
05-04-2005, 07:54 AM
[QUOTE=Frosty]Here's the plot to date:

AC wanted a game. I waited until he was in a weakened state with a "mystery illness" (prob. nothing more exciting than a cold) before agreeing to play. Its a battle of niceness VS naughtiness. May the best philosophy win. :uhoh:

I decided to play the Benoni .... I have lost my last three rated games when the Benoni has been played (so it seems it doesn't matter whether I play against it with White or with it with Black, I lose). But I love the opening as it is usually so unbalanced and exciting.

AC played the pawn exchange on move 4 ... not something that I have ever played against before ... so I am in uncharted territory. AC's position has been cramped due to the pawn that settled in its advanced post on D3, but he now looks like starting to unravel that and get some decent counter-play down the H-file (I am now starting to wonder whether I should've grabbed that pawn or whether there were other ways to increase the pressure).

I did not even know that this opening had a name, like many openings I just response on instinct and because come out of it good enough do not bother studying.

But anyway when you took that pawn I will let you into a little secret, in a differ opening to this but similar principles, I have taught my students that when the oppositon takes that pawn say "Merry Christmas", because you use that open file to CHARGE!! But usually with better back up then what I have and without that obstructing pawn.

I am also having house additions at the moment so more delays.

Spiny Norman
05-04-2005, 06:00 PM
I am also having house additions at the moment so more delays.

We're getting ready to build a granny flat down here .... so I can sympathise.

antichrist
06-04-2005, 12:21 AM
We're getting ready to build a granny flat down here .... so I can sympathise.

I built my granny flat about 18 years ago when illegal, I was dobbed in and the inspector said what is that double sink about. I replied "I am Lebanese and we only build big things".

I was lucky, be said that in one year's time that council will allow them and he told all the building regulations I would have to follow, fireproofing etc. what a beauty. Whoever dobbed me in I want to shake their hand.

antichrist
07-04-2005, 07:12 AM
No bumping, I am working on this game inbetween concrete pours. It's on today the pour. Got tons of work to do beforehand.

I have just turned the toaster on, hint hint.

If popes can die then why can't bishops - all for a good cause of course!

Spiny Norman
07-04-2005, 08:10 AM
No bumping.

Awww, yer takin' all the fun out of it .... I was just about to bump you! ;)

antichrist
07-04-2005, 08:32 AM
B X P (h7)+

go suck on a bishop

Now it is later enough for me to start making noise so going to concrete pour

antichrist
07-04-2005, 08:49 AM
after that move I wish we were at the dodgem cars

Spiny Norman
08-04-2005, 06:50 PM
B X P (h7)+
go suck on a bishop
Now it is later enough for me to start making noise so going to concrete pour

Good luck with the concrete ... you might need it in the game too?!

I wasn't expecting the bishop sac ... thought you might've played 25.e4 and then grabbed for the pawn.

25. ... Kxh7

antichrist
08-04-2005, 07:44 PM
I have just got my feet on ground again after plane trip and don't have board set up. But if you have missed my big sac and combo well you really deserve it because you were warned. In the meantime just imagine a check with queen going diagonally to about h4 till I check it and try to remember. As far as I could see there was no escape anyway. I will try and post move soon.
1. P - d4 ....N - f6
2. P - c4 ... P - c5
3. P - d5 ... P - e6
4. P x P (e6) ... P(f7) x e6
5. N - c3 ... P - d5
6. P x P (d5) ... P x P
7. B - g5 ... P - d4
8. N - e4 ... B - e7
9. N x N (f6) ... B x N
10. B - f4 ... O - O
11. N - f3 Q - a5+
12. B - d2 ... Q-c7
13. P - g3...B - e6
14. P - b2 14. ... N - d7
15. R - c1...R (a8) - e8
16. B - g2...P - d3
17. P - e3 ...B - g4
18. 0 - 0 ...N - e5
19. P - h3? ...N x N+ (f3)
20. B x N (f3) ...B x f3
21. R - e1 ... Be5
22. K - h2 ...B e6
23. K - g2 ... b5
24. B - e4 ...Q - d6
25. B x P h7+ ...K x B (h7)
26. Q - h5 +

pax
08-04-2005, 09:00 PM
25. e4 would have been tricky, since he had played 24. Be4! Are you playing blindfold Frosty?


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.dxe6 fxe6 5.Nc3 d5
6.cxd5 exd5 7.Bg5 d4 8.Ne4 Be7 9.Nxf6+ Bxf6 10.Bf4 O-O
11.Nf3 Qa5+ 12.Bd2 Qc7 13.g3 Be6 14.b3 Nd7 15.Rc1 Rae8
16.Bg2 d3 17.e3 Bg4 18.O-O Ne5 19.h3 Nxf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxh3
21.Re1 Be5 22.Kh2 Be6 23.Kg2 b5 24.Be4 Qd6 25. Bxh7 Kxh7 26. Qh5

Spiny Norman
09-04-2005, 08:19 AM
25. e4 would have been tricky, since he had played 24. Be4! Are you playing blindfold Frosty?

Lord no .... I tried once against my son and he beat me in 15 moves. :lol:

Typo, sorry, I think I meant: 25.f4 .... that would have pushed my black square bishop back, probably to f6, and then AC could play the queen to h5 similar to what he just played because it threatened checkmate on h7 supported by the now non-existent bishop. If memory serves (it often doesn't) he would have been able to win back a pawn (the one on c5).

But I think, with AC's white square bishop gone now, the white square weaknesses around my king are not nearly so dangerous as AC thinks they are, and his white square weaknesses are twice as problematic as they were before the sac.

We'll soon see. As an old friend of mine is fond of saying: "One of two things will happen". AC will either checkmate me, or he won't. If he doesn't, I'll either have a winning endgame a piece up, or I won't. ;)

Spiny Norman
09-04-2005, 08:42 AM
I have just got my feet on ground again after plane trip and don't have board set up. But if you have missed my big sac and combo well you really deserve it because you were warned. In the meantime just imagine a check with queen going diagonally to about h4 till I check it and try to remember. As far as I could see there was no escape anyway. I will try and post move soon.

26. ... Kg8

The king has 'no escape' at the moment with the queen on h5, but I don't think I need to escape! Lack of a white-square bishop blunts your attack on f7/g6/h7, my rooks have h8 well covered, and I think still have both bishops acting in a good defensive+offensive posture.

Show me what you've got ... at the risk of making me look silly in front of everyone else :uhoh: , I think you've got diddly-squat for that bishop and unless you pull out a brilliant combo from somewhere I should have a winning endgame from here.

antichrist
09-04-2005, 11:26 AM
26. ... Kg8

The king has 'no escape' at the moment with the queen on h5, but I don't think I need to escape! Lack of a white-square bishop blunts your attack on f7/g6/h7, my rooks have h8 well covered, and I think still have both bishops acting in a good defensive+offensive posture.

Show me what you've got ... at the risk of making me look silly in front of everyone else :uhoh: , I think you've got diddly-squat for that bishop and unless you pull out a brilliant combo from somewhere I should have a winning endgame from here.

I seen in one sec last night that later you can just bring bishop back to attack queen to prevent mate then I am in no man's land. On morn of concrete pour my next move after queen check was to advance centre pawn to prevent checks than follow up with rook on h file to mate or cause terror.

Another folklore lesson for my students: don't make complicated moves on morning of concrete pour!

At least I got the pour right, surface just went hard before big downpour. Watch it frosty, the concrete pump people charged me $120 for waiting time as cement truck was late, as well as $100 bucks to clean out pump at special depo as I could not provide them space to do. Hungry dirty so & sos.

Spiny Norman
09-04-2005, 11:45 AM
Watch it frosty, the concrete pump people charged me $120 for waiting time as cement truck was late, as well as $100 bucks to clean out pump at special depo as I could not provide them space to do. Hungry dirty so & sos.

Dirty rotten scoundrels ... how dare they make a profit! ;)

Well, its up to you from here. You can agree with me that the sac was unsound and resign, and I'll offer a return match, me as White, you with Black (I'm sure you're a glutton for punishment :owned: ).

Or we can play on and delay the inveitable. :whistle:

antichrist
09-04-2005, 01:25 PM
play on a few more moves just to see that I stuffed it. I have no board where am now so will get back.

Spiny Norman
10-04-2005, 06:25 PM
play on a few more moves just to see that I stuffed it. I have no board where am now so will get back.

Here's a board ... your move:


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.dxe6 fxe6 5.Nc3 d5
6.cxd5 exd5 7.Bg5 d4 8.Ne4 Be7 9.Nxf6+ Bxf6 10.Bf4 O-O
11.Nf3 Qa5+ 12.Bd2 Qc7 13.g3 Be6 14.b3 Nd7 15.Rc1 Rae8
16.Bg2 d3 17.e3 Bg4 18.O-O Ne5 19.h3 Nxf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxh3
21.Re1 Be5 22.Kh2 Be6 23.Kg2 b5 24.Be4 Qd6 25.Bxh7+ Kxh7
26.Qh5+ Kg8

antichrist
10-04-2005, 06:41 PM
I was looking at last night and my time was up and got cut off and they wanted another $1.50, but will do by tomorrow for sure. I am now travelling around and meeting friends and relos just returned from o/s etc.

Spiny Norman
13-04-2005, 09:21 PM
I was looking at last night and my time was up and got cut off and they wanted another $1.50, but will do by tomorrow for sure. I am now travelling around and meeting friends and relos just returned from o/s etc.

BUMP. Nearly a week now since your last move ... your flag is about to fall ...

antichrist
16-04-2005, 03:18 PM
finally at a decent new computer but lo and behold the printer is not installed yet

Glenno
20-04-2005, 01:30 PM
finally at a decent new computer but lo and behold the printer is not installed yet

You better make a move soon or you'll lose the game.

Spiny Norman
25-04-2005, 03:34 PM
Righto AC, you've had plenty of time to reorganise yourself. Either make a move or have the good grace to resign. :evil: I'll give you 24 hours to make a response. No more of this "my computer is sick" stuff either! :hand: Here's the game again, its your move:


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.dxe6 fxe6 5.Nc3 d5
6.cxd5 exd5 7.Bg5 d4 8.Ne4 Be7 9.Nxf6+ Bxf6 10.Bf4 O-O
11.Nf3 Qa5+ 12.Bd2 Qc7 13.g3 Be6 14.b3 Nd7 15.Rc1 Rae8
16.Bg2 d3 17.e3 Bg4 18.O-O Ne5 19.h3 Nxf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxh3
21.Re1 Be5 22.Kh2 Be6 23.Kg2 b5 24.Be4 Qd6 25. Bxh7 Kxh7
26. Qh5+ Kg8

Glenno
26-04-2005, 12:26 PM
The 24 hours are up.

Spiny Norman
26-04-2005, 08:02 PM
The 24 hours are up.

Quite correct. I note with interest that AC has had no problems posting in a variety of other threads. Time to call in the D.O.P. as he has clearly abandoned the game.

Garvinator
26-04-2005, 08:14 PM
and i declare the win for frosty, not sure if i am the dop you wanted though ;)

Spiny Norman
26-04-2005, 08:17 PM
and i declare the win for frosty, not sure if i am the dop you wanted though ;)

Sounds good to me GG ... frees me up to start another game ... thanks mate!

antichrist
26-04-2005, 08:23 PM
Frosty, due to some blunder or something I was a piece behind or something, I virtually conceded at the time. Today I am jumping in and out while doing important other work. I will knock my king over.

pax
26-04-2005, 08:57 PM
and i declare the win for frosty, not sure if i am the dop(e) you wanted though ;)

:lol:

Spiny Norman
27-04-2005, 02:51 PM
Frosty, due to some blunder or something I was a piece behind or something, I virtually conceded at the time. Today I am jumping in and out while doing important other work. I will knock my king over.

Thanks AC, wondered where you'd gone!

antichrist
27-04-2005, 06:22 PM
Thanks AC, wondered where you'd gone!

It came back to me later today, it was that concrete pour which made the cement shoes that was my downfall. I am preparing for another pour, just got the bill for that concrete pump etc, it matched exactly the price of the concrete. What a rip-off.

antichrist
29-04-2005, 11:10 PM
FRosty, have you got a chess computer you can feed our game into before my blunder?

Spiny Norman
29-04-2005, 11:13 PM
FRosty, have you got a chess computer you can feed our game into before my blunder?

Yep, sort of, I've got ChessBase Light .... are you looking for some computer analysis, or something like that? Let me know what you're interested in and I'll load it up.

antichrist
29-04-2005, 11:26 PM
I would like to see the finishing moves and result. I could work it out but will take ages. I only remembered the finer points of the game this morning and became interested again.

I got abused by my neighbour today for taking so long on additions. He had seen some Ray Martin program bagging Lebos so he was all charged up. I kill them with kindness - opposite to my stance here - I never argue with them.

Spiny Norman
30-04-2005, 10:48 AM
I would like to see the finishing moves and result.

The board position is above ^^^^. There are really only a couple of moves which make any sense for you there:

27.f4 Bf7 28.Qf3 Bb2 29.Rb1 Bg6 (sneaky) 30.e4 Qd4 leaves Black pretty well in charge.

27.e4 Qd4 28.Re3 Qb2

I don't think there's much else there worth considering. Analysis above via ChessBase Light / Fritz.