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ursogr8
11-02-2005, 07:37 AM
2005 Victorian OPEN Championship

Early planning details
> 11-13 June 2005
>> Early Bird discounts will be significant.

>Web-site details available through this link (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/)

starter

ursogr8
16-03-2005, 08:02 AM
2005 Victorian OPEN Championship

Early planning details
> 11-13 June 2005
>> Early Bird discounts will be significant.

>Web-site details available through this link (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/)

starter

Last night the organisers counted up sponsorship money received and pledged and found that they have already reached budget target. This is a goodness for the guarantee of the prize fund detailed in the link.
Check early-bird discount dates if you are cash-challenged.

starter

Recherché
16-03-2005, 09:04 AM
Last year was a great tournament. I'm hoping to actually play in it this year. :)

Garvinator
16-03-2005, 09:22 AM
Last night the organisers counted up sponsorship money received and pledged and found that they have already reached budget target. This is a goodness for the guarantee of the prize fund detailed in the link.
Check early-bird discount dates if you are cash-challenged.

starter
will it be a gp tournament, i recall making this same offer last year. Interesting that if the vic open wanted to be a gp tournament is that it would be on the same weekend as the nsw open :doh: :eek:

Recherché
16-03-2005, 09:54 AM
There's only so many long weekends in a year, I guess.

arosar
16-03-2005, 09:59 AM
Interesting that if the vic open wanted to be a gp tournament is that it would be on the same weekend as the nsw open :doh: :eek:

What's interesting about it?

AR

Bill Gletsos
16-03-2005, 10:20 AM
will it be a gp tournament, i recall making this same offer last year. Interesting that if the vic open wanted to be a gp tournament is that it would be on the same weekend as the nsw open :doh: :eek:
I believe historically the Vic Open always clashed with the NSW Queens Birthday weekender (now the NSW Open).

Garvinator
16-03-2005, 02:41 PM
What's interesting about it?

AR
interesting in terms of the fact that if the vic open was to become a gp event, it would be cat 3 and therefore would clash with the NSW open. It could create another issue like events clashing with Doeberl ie Brisbane Open etc.

You are right pax that there are only so many 3 day weekends in a year and worse still is that some of them are one weekend after another.

This makes it difficult for tournaments to avoid clashes, even more so when tournament organisers arent willing to negotiate/ move for another tournament.

I guess the tournament organisers dont want the Victorian Open to be a gp event. I remember a conversation I had with Mr Wastell who clearly stated to me that CV still supports the gp and would be working towards getting more events from Vic onto the calendar.

Maybe I need to speak to Gary by email or on the phone to find out what is going on with Victoria and the gp. Or maybe he doesnt have much say on the matter in reality and it is the clubs of Victoria who dont want the gp to be a success in Victoria :uhoh:

arosar
16-03-2005, 03:06 PM
interesting in terms of the fact that if the vic open was to become a gp event, it would be cat 3 and therefore would clash with the NSW open. It could create another issue like events clashing with Doeberl ie Brisbane Open etc.

You've confused me gray. Does it not already clash with the NSW Open? And isn't it already equivalent to a GP3 event anyway?

I don't really believe that there's any controversy over this clash. After all, there is ample distance between the 2 centres with quite a large number of players in both.

Personally, I don't believe it's anyone's business to be telling some other organiser not to do this or that. This is why I absolutely support the concept of an SEC or even Brissy Open. However, in the interest of overall harmony, I feel that the smaller and younger tourns (especially SEC due to its close proximity to Canberra) should show deference to Doeberl so as not to pose a long term threat to it. By that I mean it could offer a modest prize fund - which it does now.

AR

HappyFriend
10-04-2005, 04:27 PM
Maybe that German IM can finally win a title without having to share it with someone else who he begged fo a draw in the last round.

Bereaved
11-04-2005, 12:36 AM
A) you know about Melbourne Chess Club
B) you are a nasty piece of work with your comments
C) either send me a private message with your name or I will ask the site administrators to investigate your continued eligibility to post.
Macavity VP

Bill Gletsos
11-04-2005, 01:06 AM
A) you know about Melbourne Chess Club
B) you are a nasty piece of work with your comments
C) either send me a private message with your name or I will ask the site administrators to investigate your continued eligibility to post.
Macavity VPI seriously doubt that will have any effect.
Provided he isnt being defamatory or libelous then just making nasty statements has never been a reason to suspend anyones account.
If it had been a number of posters would have long ago been banned from posting.

ursogr8
20-05-2005, 11:02 PM
Happier times tonight for the Treasurer of the 2005 VIC OPEN. He collected enough early bird entries to double the size of the field. Players considering entering should note that early bird is available until 29 May. How could you knock back a 25% discount.


starter

Garvinator
20-05-2005, 11:05 PM
He collected enough early bird entries to double the size of the field.
going from two early entries to four early entries is not a reason to celebrate ;) :lol: :owned:

ursogr8
20-05-2005, 11:23 PM
going from two early entries to four early entries is not a reason to celebrate ;) :lol: :owned:

Total prize-money for this week-ender is $3500.
That doesn't say it all gg''.
I just have to add > Early Bird entry $45.

starter

ursogr8
21-05-2005, 10:42 PM
Trivia quiz.

How good are your research skills?
Name the players born overseas that have won (or tied) for the Victorian OPEN since 1990 (included).


starter

eclectic
21-05-2005, 10:48 PM
Trivia quiz.

How good are your research skills?
Name the players born overseas that have won (or tied) for the Victorian OPEN since 1990 (included).


starter

stefan djuric is one

eclectic

eclectic
21-05-2005, 11:03 PM
Trivia quiz.

How good are your research skills?
Name the players born overseas that have won (or tied) for the Victorian OPEN since 1990 (included).


starter

we can add peter froelich too

( and perhaps even david smerdon if we regard him as having been a queenslander at the time and his residential area as "foreign" :owned: )

;)

eclectic

ursogr8
22-05-2005, 07:37 AM
stefan djuric is one

eclectic
Score +2 for 'e'.
There are more.

starter

ps
S Duric was 1994 according to the record I am looking at.
P Froehlich was 2004.

Davidflude
22-05-2005, 03:54 PM
A lot of people from out of state probably do not realise just how much work Starter puts in in the organising and running of this tournament. Well done Starter. Now I have to make the difficult decision. Do I help with the running of the tournament or do I play in it.

ursogr8
22-05-2005, 09:26 PM
we can add peter froelich too

( and perhaps even david smerdon if we regard him as having been a queenslander at the time and his residential area as "foreign" :owned: )

;)

eclectic


Before we even get to the 'controversial', as 'e' is mischievously inviting, there are (by my count) at least 8 others besides the two already identified by our capital-challenged friend.

Any takers on this trivia question?


starter

eclectic
23-05-2005, 08:07 AM
Before we even get to the 'controversial', as 'e' is mischievously inviting, there are (by my count) at least 8 others besides the two already identified by our capital-challenged friend.

Any takers on this trivia question?


starter

good morning starter,

others do come to mind but getting the proof is the problem.

is this brain teaser of yours really about the history of the victorian open?

it would seem to be more about the accessibility of the archives of chess victoria!

why the archivist listed on the site doesn't even have a phone number or email so i could verify my hunches.

indeed, there is no link on that sacred site leading to archives....

anyone with back copies of "on the move" ?

you have noted that i am capital-challenged so i shan't be haunting the anderson chess collection lest i become "visible"

;)

eclectic

ursogr8
23-05-2005, 08:23 AM
good morning starter,

others do come to mind but getting the proof is the problem.

is this brain teaser of yours really about the history of the victorian open?

it would seem to be more about the accessibility of the archives of chess victoria!

why the archivist listed on the site doesn't even have a phone number or email so i could verify my hunches.

indeed, there is no link on that sacred site leading to archives....

anyone with back copies of "on the move" ?

you have noted that i am capital-challenged so i shan't be haunting the anderson chess collection lest i become "visible"

;)

eclectic

And good morning to you eclectic

You startled me with your enquiry as to the purpose of this trivia quiz. In my experience the usual rationale for such a quiz is to occupy the time until the next round of drinks arrive. ;)

Anyhow, your focus on the rationale has had a spin-off benefit for some readers here. They now know that
> there maybe an Archivist
>> the Anderson collection may be a valuable source for the trivia answers
>>> On The Move existed (and was an old Victorian Chess Association (VCA) publication) (before we were re-badged by Gazza to Chess VICTORIA).
Well done for revealing this. :clap:

Incidentally, don't you age-stamp yourself by knowing about OTM? :uhoh:

Now, to your questions.
* Proof is not necessary since we do not deduct points for wrong answers. :)
** You are on the wrong track so far with your reflection on sources of info. It is easier than you have imagined.

regards
starter

eclectic
23-05-2005, 08:24 AM
probably overlooked due to tiredness on my part last night.

i would assume though that he is disqualified from participating in this easter egg hunt?

eclectic

eclectic
23-05-2005, 08:41 AM
1990 laszlo hazai
1994 stephan duric
1997 eric teichmann
---- daniela nutu-gajic
1998 michael gluzman ?
1999 wayne guy(?)
2000 igor bjelobrok
---- michael baron
2002 scott wastney
---- milenko lojanica ?
---- paul dozsa ?
2004 peter froelich
[---- david smerdon (grin!)]

difficulties with wayne guy ... not sure if actually english but ...
also with those foreign born but now naturalised but i think the criteria was "foreign born"

yes i found the source starter ;)

eclectic

ursogr8
23-05-2005, 08:48 AM
my mistake ... the archivist does have a phone number
probably overlooked due to tiredness on my part last night.

i would assume though that he is disqualified from participating in this easter egg hunt?

eclectic

(starter makes mental note to strike TW's name from possible candidates of 'e' 's id.)

'e'

It is good that you directed me to the CV web-site for office-bearers. It highlights an oddity that we (CV) have an Interclub Director WEST, but not one for EAST. Makes you wonder if the EAST has any sort of competition in mind for this year. ;)

As to your question, which I interpret as "Does the Archivist read this BB?", the answer is yes.......and no. Sometimes he is just too busy filing CV papers. :uhoh:


starter

ursogr8
23-05-2005, 10:09 AM
The organising committee has announced that prize money is increased for this years VIC OPEN from (2004) $3000 to $3500 in 2005.
An increase of 16.7%.

The earlier start for getting support, through donations, accounts for the increase.

Early bird entry fees are obtainable until May 29.

starter

eclectic
23-05-2005, 10:17 AM
The organising committee has announced that prize money is increased for this years VIC OPEN from (2004) $3000 to $3500 in 2005.
An increase of 16.7%.

The earlier start for getting support, through donations, accounts for the increase.

Early bird entry fees are obtainable until May 29.

starter

and also (according to my reading of things) ...

the number or allocatable places has increased 25% from 120 to 150 !!!

( unless you have made a typo, starter ... :ponder: )

so perhaps some of those celebrated casino connoisseurs will cash in their chips that long weekend and help make it a "full house" :whistle:

eclectic

Mischa
23-05-2005, 11:00 AM
you are kidding tic...
the lure of Casinos and strip clubs versus playing chess all weekend?

ursogr8
23-05-2005, 11:06 AM
and also (according to my reading of things) ...

the number or allocatable places has increased 25% from 120 to 150 !!!

( unless you have made a typo, starter ... :ponder: )

so perhaps some of those celebrated casino connoisseurs will cash in their chips that long weekend and help make it a "full house" :whistle:

eclectic

'e'

Complete solidarity amongst the organising group....any typo. is an error by the group...not one individual. :uhoh:
But, no, it is not a typo. anyhow. :)

Judging by recent peformances by the casino bank-breakers; they will need to play chess instead to replenish their banks. :rolleyes:
At the moment, their performance is a 'straight flush' of embarrassment.


starter

ursogr8
24-05-2005, 09:01 AM
List of entries to date for the 2005 VIC OPEN can be viewed through this link. (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_entries.htm)

Note.........ratings that will be used for tournament pairings will be June ratings. Ratings shown through the link are March ratings.

starter

ursogr8
24-05-2005, 10:57 PM
List of entries to date for the 2005 VIC OPEN can be viewed through this link. (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_entries.htm)

Note.........ratings that will be used for tournament pairings will be June ratings. Ratings shown through the link are March ratings.

starter


Tonight we signed up GM Darryl Johansen and David Hacche for the 2005 Victorian OPEN weekender.

Early Bird entries still available this week.


starter

Mischa
24-05-2005, 11:18 PM
Hey...I knew that last week!!!
They offered to bring James home for me Sunday night!!!

ursogr8
25-05-2005, 05:38 PM
Hey...I knew that last week!!!
They offered to bring James home for me Sunday night!!!

hi Mischa

I tossed up which would be the bigger news item.

GM enters VICTORIAN Open (long) week-ender.

or

GM drives James home after the tournament.

;)


And I thought the first one looked a bit more colourful. :)


But we will find a news item on James during the tourney. :hmm:


regards
starter

Mischa
25-05-2005, 08:16 PM
sooo funny.
News item now about James.........

ursogr8
26-05-2005, 08:05 AM
In 2004 the prize money for the VIC Open was $3,000.
You can see through here (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/04VicOpenres.htm) who were the players to take home the moula. First prize of $1000 was combined with second prize of $500, and was shared by two players.
Of particular debate for that tournament was the 8 rating prizes of $120 each.
It seemed to be well received and is repeated, as a concept, in 2005.

Total prize fund for 2005 is increased to $3500, and first prize is 1000 big ones.


starter

ps Early Bird entry fees save 33% if paid by May 29.

ursogr8
26-05-2005, 03:02 PM
We have received 32 ENTRIES to date.
The average rating of these entries is 1538.
Includes one from South Australia....a first for us.

Early Bird fees valid till 29/5/2005.

starter

Garvinator
27-05-2005, 01:38 AM
who is the sa player?

ursogr8
27-05-2005, 09:23 PM
Obviously quite a few entrants have been keeping a good eye on the closing of the 33% early bird discount, as can be judged by entries swelling from 35 to 60 tonight.
El Capitano tells me entries till Sunday night will still be at early bird rates. (Including any week-end posting in Monday mail).
Entries are running at close to the same level as the 2004 field, so if it is valid to extrapolate then we might see 100 entries at the close.


starter

Mischa
27-05-2005, 09:35 PM
can we have an updated list soon?

eclectic
27-05-2005, 09:49 PM
can we have an updated list soon?

are fairies eligible to enter?

or cats even?

:P

eclectic

ursogr8
27-05-2005, 10:22 PM
are fairies eligible to enter?

or cats even?

:P

eclectic

Talking of cats....did you notice that macavity has been doing some great work for Dandenong and Melbourne publicity. We just need Elwood and Altona and Geelong and a few others to get equally active and we can stress-test Karthick's new server.


Fairies?
Not touching this one. ;)



can we have an updated list soon?

Mischa

You and I have been down this garden path before. Have you checked the web-site? :)

regards
starter

ursogr8
27-05-2005, 10:27 PM
Obviously quite a few entrants have been keeping a good eye on the closing of the 33% early bird discount, as can be judged by entries swelling from 35 to 60 tonight.
El Capitano tells me entries till Sunday night will still be at early bird rates. (Including any week-end posting in Monday mail).
Entries are running at close to the same level as the 2004 field, so if it is valid to extrapolate then we might see 100 entries at the close.


starter

Hmmm....that was not the end of the rush. Since games have begun to finish this evening we have another 8 who have entered.
Total to date = 68.


starter

Mischa
27-05-2005, 11:23 PM
Hmmm....that was not the end of the rush. Since games have begun to finish this evening we have another 8 who have entered.
Total to date = 68.


starter

Hey I checked the website right after your post. So has it changed now?

Mischa
28-05-2005, 08:31 AM
Starter....have YOU checkd the website?

Rincewind
28-05-2005, 08:06 PM
Hmmm....that was not the end of the rush. Since games have begun to finish this evening we have another 8 who have entered.
Total to date = 68.
Hey Starter, I checked website just now and it still only shows 32! What gives?

(I think you might also owe someone an apology).

ursogr8
28-05-2005, 11:05 PM
Hey Starter, I checked website just now and it still only shows 32! What gives?

(I think you might also owe someone an apology).

RW (and Mischa)

There never was never any doubt that Mischa has learned to check the web-sites and all relevant threads. Even to look at those oddly placed hot buttons at the foot of the web-site. I admit it now; it was a stalling tactic.

SAINTS won by 40+ points btw, and we all enjoyed the game, and even sang the theme song at the end. The G-train kicked about 7 goals.
I will update my spreadsheets tomorrow and send to the weibye guys and they can update the site.

One of the guys I played golf with this morning had a hole-in-one on the 3rd at Huntingdale. He didn't want to announce it in the Bar until he heard that the Club pays for the shout of the whole bar. :rolleyes:

Bas van Riel has entered. I am hoping Liberace will.

No apology required.

All of the above is marketing puff?


starter

Rincewind
28-05-2005, 11:13 PM
I admit it now; it was a stalling tactic.

Perhaps you should have a lie down and clear your head. Sounds like you have been celebrating... enthusiastically.

ursogr8
28-05-2005, 11:22 PM
Perhaps you will reconsider after you have a lie down and clear your head. Sounds like you have been celebrating... enthusiastically.

All clear Baz. You can rely on that.
Just felt like interleaving a little blogging with keeping the VIC OPEN thread at the top of the publicity focus while we are taking entries.

George Z. ... are you keen to play?


starter

ps I think I have just run out of puff.

pps Early bird valid for Monday mail.

Rincewind
29-05-2005, 02:29 AM
All clear Baz. You can rely on that.
Just felt like interleaving a little blogging with keeping the VIC OPEN thread at the top of the publicity focus while we are taking entries.

So I have been an unwitting coconspirator in your evil plot. Your feigned insobriety was just a plot to lure the the unexpected victim into your web of deceit.

Good job! ;)

ursogr8
29-05-2005, 08:29 AM
So I have been an unwitting coconspirator in your evil plot. Your feigned insobriety was just a plot to lure the the unexpected victim into your web of deceit.
Good job! ;)

Baz/Trev


So I have been an unwitting (as in 'unconscious'?, or did you mean unwilling?) coconspirator (hardly, if you meant unwitting :confused: ) in your evil (not even 'unseemly, let alone evil) plot (more of job than a plot). Your feigned insobriety (one can be high-spirited w/out being spirit-high ) was just a plot to lure the the (a deliberate repeat for emphaisis?) unexpected (I knew some could not resist) victim (no harm done) into your web (over-stated) of deceit (wrong word) ;) .

regards
starter


ps I am running out of ways to bump ttt. ;)

Rincewind
29-05-2005, 12:06 PM
Baz/Trev


So I have been an unwitting (as in 'unconscious'?, or did you mean unwilling?) coconspirator (hardly, if you meant unwitting :confused: ) in your evil (not even 'unseemly, let alone evil) plot (more of job than a plot). Your feigned insobriety (one can be high-spirited w/out being spirit-high ) was just a plot to lure the the (a deliberate repeat for emphaisis?) unexpected (I knew some could not resist) victim (no harm done) into your web (over-stated) of deceit (wrong word) ;) .
Hey it was late.

ps I am running out of ways to bump ttt. ;)
;)

Rincewind
29-05-2005, 05:51 PM
ps I am running out of ways to bump ttt. ;)
I notice the web site really have been updated now with 61 confirmed entries.

ursogr8
31-05-2005, 08:07 AM
I notice the web site really have been updated now with 61 confirmed entries.

A more recent announcement from the BH web-site >

At the end of the early bird discount entry period there are 68 entrants with several titled players putting their rating on the line:
GM Darryl Johansen who won in 90, 94, and shared in 95 is confident of a good result 10 years on.
IM Guy West who won in 92, is making a welcome return to the tournament.
IM Peter Froehlich who shared first prize with IM David Smerdon last year, hoping to go one better.
WIM Narelle Szuveges who had a good tournament last year now with the confidence a women's international master title has given her expects to do well.
Although the discount entry fees are now finished there are still plenty of places left for you to join these and other well-known Victorian players

starter

ursogr8
05-06-2005, 09:44 PM
Entires have increased to 71 with a few collected Friday 4 June.
This will give a good head-start to the organiser to have pairings on the notice-board at least 15 minutes before the start of round 1 (as per last year).

Event details available through this link (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/05vic_open.htm) to the 2005 VIC OPEN week-ender.



starter

Garvinator
06-06-2005, 12:21 AM
Hello Starter,

Has there ever been any thought of using a different time control to the 90/30 timer that is being used? Thoughts?

Cheers,

Garvin

ursogr8
06-06-2005, 08:00 AM
Hello Starter,

Has there ever been any thought of using a different time control to the 90/30 timer that is being used? Thoughts?

Cheers,

Garvin

gg''

There probably was in 2004. Here is the first post (http://chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=5867&postcount=1) in that thread.

starter

Garvinator
06-06-2005, 12:20 PM
gg''

There probably was in 2004. Here is the first post (http://chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=5867&postcount=1) in that thread.

starter
I checked the first few posts of that thread, no mention of time controls. :hmm:

ursogr8
06-06-2005, 01:28 PM
gg''

Given Dorophil and a few others explored 'issues', with the changes that occurred in the inaugural BHCC year (2004); and if, as you say, time controls did not get a run as an issue, then apply BilLogic to work out if the playing population has any other preference. ;)

starter

Garvinator
06-06-2005, 01:39 PM
then apply BilLogic to work out if the playing population has any other preference. ;)

starter
dont go there ;) :lol:

ursogr8
07-06-2005, 08:11 AM
Entries have increased to 71 with a few collected Friday 4 June.
This will give a good head-start to the organiser to have pairings on the notice-board at least 15 minutes before the start of round 1 (as per last year).

Event details available through this link (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/05vic_open.htm) to the 2005 VIC OPEN week-ender.



starter

Entries now at 74, with the notable inclusion of Nathan Stirling.

starter

ursogr8
09-06-2005, 01:21 PM
Entries now at 74, with the notable inclusion of Nathan Stirling.

starter

Entires have increased to 80 (see on web-site) (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_entries.htm) .

The tourney manager hopes to post pairings 30 minutes before the start of play, so any folk planning to enter on the day should target early arrival and registration.


starter

firegoat7
11-06-2005, 09:06 AM
Starter,


Good Luck with the tournament. From what I hear it should be fantastic. Please keep us updated from Box Hill.

Cheers Fg7

kveldulv
11-06-2005, 11:40 AM
Starter,
Please keep us updated from Box Hill.
Cheers Fg7
Round 1 underway on time!

Starter ain't here for this tournament, but I am up on stage - broadcasting top 2 boards live and keeping the website up-to-date.

Goto: http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess and follow the links.

I'll try and give further updates throughout the day.

Shaun

Lucena
11-06-2005, 11:54 AM
Round 1 underway on time!

Starter ain't here for this tournament, but I am up on stage - broadcasting top 2 boards live and keeping the website up-to-date.

Goto: http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess and follow the links.

I'll try and give further updates throughout the day.

Shaun

Will there be somewhere we can download pgn's from?

kveldulv
11-06-2005, 12:08 PM
Will there be somewhere we can download pgn's from?
Yes, games will eventually be available on the results page (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_results.htm).

Edit: Auto-updating PGN of top two boards available here: http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/05voR1.pgn

Shaun

Lucena
11-06-2005, 12:35 PM
nice :cool: .

Respect for the first person who knows the name of the variation in the Morris-Johansen game from r1!

firegoat7
11-06-2005, 04:09 PM
Round 1
:oops:

Hacche :D
Thai Ly :eek:
Nur Yachou :uhoh:
Hope Happytroll paid an extra $10 :mad:

Cheers Fg7

kveldulv
11-06-2005, 04:15 PM
Round 2 now in play.

Click here for: Pairings and previous round results (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_results.htm)

Click here for: Auto-updating PGN of top two boards Round 2 (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/05voR2.pgn)

Click here for: PGN of Top 2 boards Round 1 (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/05voR1.pgn)

Shaun

WhiteElephant
11-06-2005, 04:45 PM
Darryl!!!

Day 1 over and he is on 2/2, having played only 33 moves for the day.

eclectic
11-06-2005, 04:53 PM
Darryl!!!

Day 1 over and he is on 2/2, having played only 33 moves for the day.

well he would be in big trouble now is following on from the anti quick draw campaign there started an anti quick win one !!!

;)

eclectic

WhiteElephant
11-06-2005, 05:01 PM
well he would be in big trouble now is following on from the anti quick draw campaign there started an anti quick win one !!!

;)

eclectic

I've just settled in for a relaxing afternoon watching Johansen - Sharman and Szuveges - Froehlich. Now half my fun is over and there's not much action in the S- F game, although 17.d5 looks interesting.....

WhiteElephant
11-06-2005, 05:06 PM
Nope...swap, swap. It would be cool if NS could get a draw though.

klyall
11-06-2005, 07:41 PM
Wonderful to be able to watch the top two boards live from home. :clap:
Eugene is transfixed to the computer screen. (I'm posting on the old computer.)

WhiteElephant
11-06-2005, 08:08 PM
Wonderful to be able to watch the top two boards live from home. :clap:
Eugene is transfixed to the computer screen. (I'm posting on the old computer.)

Has Eugene finished his game already? How did he go?

How exciting is the Szuveges - Froehlich endgame, though it looks like Froehlich has ground it out.

firegoat7
12-06-2005, 01:30 AM
Hi Shaun,

Fantastic effort by yourself and everyone at Box Hill so far on the Vic Open. Your team have raised professionalism in Australian chess to new levels.

Cheers Fg7

kveldulv
12-06-2005, 10:03 AM
Round 3 now in play.

Click here for: Pairings and previous round results (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_results.htm)

Click here for: Round 3 live games (top two boards) (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/tfd.htm)

Click here for: Auto-updating PGN Round 3 (top two boards) (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/05voR3.pgn)

Shaun

kveldulv
12-06-2005, 10:35 AM
Fantastic effort by yourself and everyone at Box Hill so far on the Vic Open. Your team have raised professionalism in Australian chess to new levels.
Thanks for the great compliment!

Shaun

kveldulv
12-06-2005, 01:15 PM
Some big upsets in Round 3.

Those watching the live games have already seen Adrian Flitney's win over IM Peter Froehlich, but another of the three IM's playing, Guy West also went down to Mehmedalija Dizdarevic!

Kempen has just resigned to Rujevic, so at least one IM gets a win!

Further down, Scott Sharman (1778) lost to Kam Lee (1522), Jesse Jager (1919) lost to Ramo Burzic (1536) whilst down on board 46, Paul Sanderson (1163) was held to a draw by Box Hill veteran Marieke Van Dijk (692).

Still many games in play... full results will be posted on the website soon.

Shaun

kveldulv
12-06-2005, 03:08 PM
Edit: Round 5 now in play. (Note delayed start on board 2 because of players' late round 4 finish.)

Links: Pairings and results (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_results.htm), live games (top two boards) (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/tfd.htm) and Auto-updating PGN (top two boards) (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/05voR5.pgn)

Shaun

kveldulv
13-06-2005, 10:22 AM
Round 6 now in play.

Links: Pairings and results (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_results.htm), live games (top two boards) (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/tfd.htm) and Auto-updating PGN (top two boards) (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/05voR6.pgn)

Shaun

kveldulv
13-06-2005, 10:33 AM
Play now enters the final day and it's getting pretty exciting. Can Domagoj beat the competitions only player to have won all his games thus far, GM Darryl Johansen? (He beat GM Ian Rogers last year!) They're playing right now - watch the live games to find out.

ursogr8
13-06-2005, 02:26 PM
Round 7 pairings on (physical display) now.

Board 1 is IM P Froehlich v GM D Johansen

All pairings will be (electronically) visible when (super-) Shaun gets them on the web.

2.30pm start to the round

Stay tuned.

starter (2.26pm)

kveldulv
13-06-2005, 02:40 PM
Final Round now in play.

Links: Pairings and results (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_results.htm), live games (top two boards) (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/tfd.htm) and Auto-updating PGN (top two boards) (http://www.boxhillchess.org/vicchess/live/05voR7.pgn)

Shaun

kveldulv
13-06-2005, 05:47 PM
GM Darryl Johansen wins the 2005 Vic Open!

=2nd IM Guy West
=2nd Milenko Lojanica

Full results to appear on the website shortly. (Some Rd 7 games still in progress.)

Note for those wanting a PGN of tournament: we're really down on game-entry volunteers, so it may take some time before they appear.

Shaun

ursogr8
13-06-2005, 08:42 PM
First prize, and on his own at 6.5/7 => GM Darryl Johansen
Second and third prize shared at 6/7 => IM Guy West, Milenko Lojanica

Rating Group A at 5.5/7 => Malcolm Pyke and Christopher Wallis shared
Rating Group B at 5/7 => Leon Kempen, Zhigen Wilson Lin, Tom Lea, Nur Yachou shared
Rating Group C at 4.5/7 => Reubban Muthusamy
Rating Group D at 4.5/7 => James Morris
Rating Group E at 3.5/7 => Stephen Wertheim
Rating Group F at 4.5/7 => Kingsley Feng
Rating Group G at 4/7 => Jason Tang
Rating Group H at 3.5/7 => Vanja Rozenblat, Vladimir Zacharczenko
Group UNRATED at 3.5/7 => Carl Jackson, Zjelko Padvoraj
Best Game Prize => tba

All rating groups $150.

starter

ursogr8
13-06-2005, 08:53 PM
Gerrit Hartland appreciated the efforts of

Shaun Fielder ...on computers
David Flude on score-sheets
John Harrison, Paul Bearup, Marieke Van Dijk, and Ion Kloprogge on pack-up
Marcus Raine....on books,
Kerry Lyall on ...on Prizes and Canteen
The Canteen Crew...who each got a nice voucher for free entry downstream
The winners...multiple
The players...well behaved
Phil and Mary O'Connor...on computer equipment
Gary Wastell....on Arbiting
Rob McCulloch ...who is going to write nice things in the next CV newsletter. :uhoh:
And numerous visitors who enjoyed themselves.
The set-up crew, who I did not see as I was at the NSW sister event on Saturday.

And we all appreciate Gerrit Harland. :clap: :clap:


starter

ursogr8
14-06-2005, 07:59 AM
GM Darryl Johansen wins the 2005 Vic Open!

=2nd IM Guy West
=2nd Milenko Lojanica

Full results to appear on the website shortly. (Some Rd 7 games still in progress.)

Note for those wanting a PGN of tournament: we're really down on game-entry volunteers, so it may take some time before they appear.

Shaun

Full crosstable of final results (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_results.htm) for the 2005 Victorian OPEN can be viewed through this link.

starter

bobby1972
14-06-2005, 09:35 AM
that was fantastic coverage

Libby
14-06-2005, 01:11 PM
Congrats guys. The coverage of this event was excellent.

Don't know as many of your Vic players as I do the NSW ones (and there was no ACT interest) but it was great to be able to follow the results of those I did know.

Early updates with scores/stories etc make it easy to generate interest in your event and live games are a bonus.

This sort of service around our big weekenders should be aimed for by all organisers.

firegoat7
14-06-2005, 04:01 PM
Hi Starter,


Rating Group E at 3.5/7 => Stephen Wertheim I know its probably a typo mate, but Stevie is adament its 4.5/7 ;)

Cheers Fg7

jenni
14-06-2005, 04:20 PM
The set-up crew, who I did not see as I was at the NSW sister event on Saturday.
starter

And busy taking notes of all the things that were going wrong.

I am sometimes critical of the Vic Chess scene, but I have to say the organisation of these weekenders is leaving everyone for dead. I think the critical thing is the number of people helping - it means one person is not left trying to do everything from Dop'ing to filling the urn. Extra things like putting up results and pairings then become feasible, as there is not a level of exhaustion.

ursogr8
14-06-2005, 04:30 PM
Hi Starter,

I know its probably a typo mate, but Stevie is adament its 4.5/7 ;)

Cheers Fg7


fg7

It was great to see some MCC members playing, and also some high class visitors like Ascaro and Roger as well.

You are correct on Steve, now that I see the web-site more clearly (as Treasurer, I had tears in my eyes giving away so much money late yesterday, ;) ).

I have his address and he will be posted a cheque tomorrow.


Nice of you to recognize Shaun's work on the live games/pairings etc.


regards
starter

ursogr8
14-06-2005, 04:40 PM
And busy taking notes of all the things that were going wrong.

<snip>


jenni

Just collecting data (in NSW) at the time.
No set position by me.

In fact, on balance, ........116 willing to pay close to $100 each seems like a lot is right from the (NSW week-ender) customers point of view.

I am letting my thoughts gestate before posting on that (NSW) thread.

starter

Bill Gletsos
14-06-2005, 05:44 PM
In fact, on balance, ........116 willing to pay close to $100 each seems like a lot is right from the (NSW week-ender) customers point of view.Actually only 6 of the entrants in the Open paid $100.

ursogr8
14-06-2005, 08:49 PM
Actually only 6 of the entrants in the Open paid $100.


Nah.

Thanks for the offer Bill.
The possibility of debating the meaning of 'close to $100' is tempting; but I think I will pass. ;)

Incidentally, I meant it as a positive.

regards
starter

firegoat7
14-06-2005, 10:47 PM
I'm not saying anything more Starter ;) ,

I will mention nothing about the Australian email newsletter write up. I will notice nothing about local MCC players. I will not talk about Box Hill CCs choice of arbiter. Cannot mention some fantastic individual achievements. I can't even talk about the happytroll gossip nor the great tournament turn out

Instead I will leave it to the people at Box Hill and the ACF to talk about the Victorian Open.
Now can we please have one of your galvanic stories Starter?

Cheers Fg7

P.S Libby scored it 1-0 so its safe to say it was the best Oz chess event on the calender. There was another tournament up North somewhere past Albury....am waiting for the carrier pidgeon png files, would u like a copy? apparently I get two for one if I order the Oz Open bulletins. ;)

Rincewind
15-06-2005, 01:08 AM
I was there as a spectator and I thought the event was very well run.

There was a reasonable field (including a GM, several IMs and a number of strong juniors) who were all (just) accomodated in the main playing room

This left the large anteroom for some analysis tables, notice boards, arbiting station (almost always manned by the indefatigable Gerrit) and screens showing the top two boards.

Also the back room was left for more analysis and computer work.

The rounds were consistently started on time which I'm sure was appreciated by all.

The canteen was well-stocked and capably managed. It was generally set up for business promptly in the mornings (with a little help from a certain fairy in training).

Parking at the venue on weekends and proximity to eating establishments is also excellent. Fortunately, the the local parking moderators didn't decide to stricly enforce the 2 hour parking limit MONDAY - Friday. Monday being a public holiday but not explicitly excepted on the signage.

From what I saw there were very few complaints from the players which is also a good barometer.

The only things that might have improved things would require construction work. These include...

Some form of floor covering on the bare boards to quieten things down a bit, starter tells me these were in place in the past

Separating access to toilet facilities from the playing hall to minimise disturbance to players (I admit this is nigh on impossible at the Boxhill venue without a complete redesign)

Doors between the playing hall and the anteroom to minimise disturbances to those analysing from those noisy blackguards in the playing hall :)

The swing dampener on the main entry door also seems to cut-out for the last 45% which leads to an invariably loud "bang" whenever it was used (which was often by the smokers). The teatowel solution helped but I think doesn't address the problem entirely.

Also some licenced premises in the immediate area may be appreciated by some players (and spectators) ;)


But overall a very polished event!!! :clap:


On a personal note thanks to everyone who made me feel welcome over the three days. I be able to name everyone and I am nervous about starting a list for fear of accidentally leaving off someone important. But here goes...

Mischa, James and India, alipasha, Alex (and Anna), the other Alex, Jonathon, Jamie, Phillip, Barboros and all the Elwood guys (I felt like an honourary member of the Elwood CC while I was there), Thai, macavity, Andrew Fitz', Denis, Garry Bekker and baby (Sarah?), David Hacche (and congrats on reaching a significant milestone), Wayne, Paul Bearup, David Flude, Rengan, Udit and Thomas. And of course the Boxhill organisors in particular klyall, Gerrit and starter. The efforts of kveldulv were thouroughly appreciated (though we didn't get a chance to chat) and last but not least Marcus from the bookstalls.

I take full responsibility and apologise in advance for anyone missing from this list. By way of mitigating circumstances, it is late and I did drive >800km today (well yesterday).

ursogr8
15-06-2005, 08:01 AM
I'm not saying anything more Starter ;) ,

Ooo, you have got yourself into trouble while I was away fg7. Perhaps one of your usual minders was elsewhere playing at BHCC? ;)


I will mention nothing about the Australian email newsletter write up.
I thought you had this one askew, but you have been donged enough on it already.


I will notice nothing about local MCC players.
And a nice bunch of players and visitors they were too.


I will not talk about Box Hill CCs choice of arbiter.
Np for us, but I know the CV_MCC form on this issue.


Cannot mention some fantastic individual achievements.
Actually, this would be safe territory because there was no other chronicler present.


I can't even talk about the happytroll gossip
That could get you into trouble.


nor the great tournament turn out
New venue next year if we are a candidate and if we aim for more. Both under consideration. You realistically should take a turn.


Instead I will leave it to the people at Box Hill and the ACF to talk about the Victorian Open.
Looks a like a GONGer has done the task for us.


Now can we please have one of your galvanic stories Starter?
It will not be on this thread, because I was missing for the first two days; and visited day 1 of the NSW OPEN instead. Will post on another thread.


Cheers Fg7
No issue with this. ;) Cheers to you too.


P.S Libby scored it 1-0 so its safe to say it was the best Oz chess event on the calender. There was another tournament up North somewhere past Albury....am waiting for the carrier pidgeon png files, would u like a copy? apparently I get two for one if I order the Oz Open bulletins. ;)

Depends on your metric fg7.
*116 Welsher entrants is impressive.
*Double the Mexican prize-money on offer was impressive.


with the warmest regards for your insights,
starter

ursogr8
15-06-2005, 08:21 AM
From macavity in the SHOUTBOX >

As am I intermittently; i'm also restoring my room to a habitable state. I have been looking at the crosstable for the weekend and it is odd the pairings/fields that some people played owing to how they started and how some of the titled players met a relatively weak field; basically 7 rounds is not enough
The improvement should be sought by creating two divisions, not by increasing the number of rounds. A fair comparison of the pairings in the Welsher OPEN and the Mexican OPEN shows the Welshers had a much better set of pairings for the elite players, because they divisionalised.


From macavity in the SHOUTBOX >

A person should feel comfortable in what they wear; I may not like what someone else wears for myself, but it is obviously ( hopefully!) not an accident that they are wearing it, and as a firm believer in not joining the fashion police or of espousing their cause, how can I comment? i'm sure most of them might have thought the same of me... .

Odd. I was just musing on this topic last night. The key question you have not addressed is what if a high profile sponsor was present in the playing arena. Would we want to jeopardise his/her sponsorship just because we don't want to police reasonable apparel?
I lost the argument because someone pointed out it is called the VIC Open, not the VIC Neat. :rolleyes:

starter

Libby
15-06-2005, 11:18 AM
Depends on your metric fg7.
*116 Welsher entrants is impressive.
*Double the Mexican prize-money on offer was impressive.


with the warmest regards for your insights,
starter

I gave you a 1-0 on the event coverage and the rest I'll happily say I was in no position to comment upon.

It was just a very stark difference with the two events being held simultaneously - one I could be interested in from a distance, and one I could not.

Libby
15-06-2005, 11:21 AM
I lost the argument because someone pointed out it is called the VIC Open, not the VIC Neat. :rolleyes:

starter

I trust nothing inappropriate was being left open ;)

However your sponsor reference does raise the semi-serious point of chess having an image problem which is not always contradicted.

firegoat7
15-06-2005, 11:53 AM
Depends on your metric fg7.
*116 Welsher entrants is impressive.
*Double the Mexican prize-money on offer was impressive.




Yes yes, you are absolutely correct again. Im sure NSW was a fine event. Did you really travel up there for the day Starter? You sure your not telling porkies? If you did I am most impressed! That shows commitment not to be confused with that other word com _____ (blank). :banana: :banana: Blankety blank Long live the king :banana: :banana: blankety blank, such a nice game :banana: :banana: blankety blank what will they say.

Cheers Fg7

P.S kudos to Bazza for makin the effort, how about a story Baz?

Lucena
15-06-2005, 11:59 AM
I gave you a 1-0 on the event coverage and the rest I'll happily say I was in no position to comment upon.

It was just a very stark difference with the two events being held simultaneously - one I could be interested in from a distance, and one I could not.

I am sure this will be food for thought for NSW and hopefully people will be discussing how to make the NSW Open better publicised in the future, especially since it is said to be NSW's premier weekend event.

Rincewind
15-06-2005, 12:13 PM
P.S kudos to Bazza for makin the effort, how about a story Baz?

Well my story is about said. However I will reiterate the great cohesion and camaraderie of the Elwood team. They are are a fantastic group who were very supporting of each other. We had lunch together every day and dinner Sunday night. I think if I was to move to Melbourne I would like to be in close proximity to Elwood.

firegoat7
15-06-2005, 12:24 PM
However I will reiterate the great cohesion and camaraderie of the Elwood team.

There are chesspalyers in Elwood?, geeez the world changes quickly.

Mischa
15-06-2005, 12:26 PM
Hey James is a member of Elwood Chess Club!

Rincewind
15-06-2005, 12:27 PM
There are chesspalyers in Elwood?, geeez the world changes quickly.

Well they are like regular chess players, except with social skills.

Garvinator
15-06-2005, 12:39 PM
Well they are like regular chess players, except with social skills.
yes, that certainty makes them different ;) :lol:

ursogr8
15-06-2005, 12:52 PM
Yes yes, you are absolutely correct again. Im sure NSW was a fine event. Did you really travel up there for the day Starter? You sure your not telling porkies? If you did I am most impressed! <snip>

Cheers Fg7

P.S kudos to Bazza for makin the effort, how about a story Baz?

hi fg7

I will bore you with my travel iterinary
> since you ask,
and
>> since jenni says I (or one of us on the bb) have no social life

7.15 am Virgin Blue flight Friday...Melb to Syd
pm......explore Parramatta
Evening.......meet Son's intended's parents in cafe
Saturday a.m.......pick-up daughters arriving from Melb.
purchase SMH, only to find complete absence of Essendon v West Coast scores
mid-day.......travel by bus from Parramatta to West Ryde
watch gathering NSW players at Leagues club
3pm........make basic mistake to return to Parramatta via train from Strathfield
Evening.......Parramatta Leagues Club for Engagement Shindig
Sunday morning...travel to West Mead by train
pm........Darling Habour ...poseuring
evening......eat in great restaurant at DH
late........train to Wooli Creek...walk in the dark
Monday ...7.15 am flight to Melbourne
Arrive Surrey Hills 10.10am
Read bb
BHCC venue till.......6pm ...give out prize-money
Watch Belletty v Tuan Le game take its umpteenth reversal of fortunes.
Pack-up
Go home.


starter

ps.......your emoticons deleted from your quote by me.
pps......attendance at NSW OPEN was not the prime reason for travel.

bobby1972
15-06-2005, 02:33 PM
starter how about some games specially some of the upsets that would certainly top what is being the best weekender coverage in memory

Lucena
15-06-2005, 02:57 PM
purchase SMH, only to find complete absence of Essendon v West Coast scores

Just shocking :shocked: I will write to them and complain.

Garvinator
15-06-2005, 03:00 PM
Starter,

Who did you get to meet from here at the nsw open?

kveldulv
15-06-2005, 03:03 PM
starter how about some games specially some of the upsets that would certainly top what is being the best weekender coverage in memory
They will be coming... at the moment, I've only got the top-two boards from each round - I will upload that as a start later tonight.

On Friday night I will get more scoresheets and maybe some of the games that David Flude has entered. Stay tuned...

Shaun

ursogr8
15-06-2005, 03:06 PM
Starter,

Who did you get to meet from here at the nsw open?

gg''

Stephen Solomon was the only Qlder, I recognised, literally.

starter

ps :uhoh: :P

Rincewind
15-06-2005, 03:09 PM
starter how about some games specially some of the upsets that would certainly top what is being the best weekender coverage in memory

I agree and would recommend the Froehlich-Flitney (round 3) clash as one in this category. In fact there seemed to have been a few upsets in round 3. Perhaps all the games submitted for best game prize (or at least those commended by the judges) would be a good idea too.

Garvinator
15-06-2005, 03:25 PM
gg''

Stephen Solomon was the only Qlder, I recognised, literally.

starter

ps :uhoh: :P
now you are just trying to drive up your bb post count :P i meant from the bb, not from qld :P :P

Brian_Jones
15-06-2005, 03:48 PM
hi fg7pm......explore Parramatta
3pm........make basic mistake to return to Parramatta via train from Strathfield
Evening.......Parramatta Leagues Club for Engagement Shindig
Sunday morning...travel to West Mead by train

starter

pps......attendance at NSW OPEN was not the prime reason for travel.

Trevor, you were in the western Sydney! You should have made a fleeting visit to our chess shop (not too far from Westmead) to see us - I was working hard all weekend putting together a chess magazine!

I could have taken you see the suburb next door to Riverstone. It's called Box Hill - I might start a chess club there one day!?

ursogr8
15-06-2005, 04:16 PM
Trevor, you were in the western Sydney! You should have made a fleeting visit to our chess shop (not too far from Westmead) to see us - I was working hard all weekend putting together a chess magazine!

I could have taken you see the suburb next door to Riverstone. It's called Box Hill - I might start a chess club there one day!?

Well, dang me Brian...you are correct...that would have been a better use of my time.
As it was, I escaped from a (must-miss) discussion on bridesmaid frock colours and walked down to a 9-hole golf course; and there saw a memorable fairway arrangement. One par 3 hole (running north-south say) was crossed by the immediate next (running east-west) at a point about 100 yards from the tee. The players seemed to avoid the danger well enough.
On the perimeter of the course was a Neighbourhood house (you seem to call them a Community house). This one had been hired out for an hour to a group holding an Indian religious service (it was Sunday after all). Their music was very loud and next to the tee ground.

And jenni says I don't have a social life. :rolleyes: ;)

regards
Trevor

jenni
15-06-2005, 05:49 PM
And jenni says I don't have a social life. :rolleyes: ;)

regards
Trevor

and he wonders why I call him mischievous........

firegoat7
16-06-2005, 01:19 AM
And jenni says I don't have a social life. :rolleyes: ;)



What is Jenni goin on about....from what I have heard, people who post on the internet generally have better community relations then those that don't. Anyway your Sydney trip sounds pretty cool Starter, whats with the outlaw meeting? Is there a marriage in the family?

As 4 myself....
Went to Telstra Dome on Friday, I have to say the retractable roof is impressive but what on earth are they doing in the AFL by not letting kids go onto the ground after the game? Still always good to see the bluebaggers lose!

Took the tribe to Lysterfield on Monday, Six trout!! sensational....very nice bit of pepper and ginger...bewdiful...Then contray to AC's advice actually turned up for the APOK gig on Wednesday, am recovering now.... who sez chess players have no social life?

cheers Fg7

bobby1972
17-06-2005, 11:43 AM
saw 3 games in the bulletin are there any more how about some of the other
upsets.

ursogr8
17-06-2005, 11:52 AM
Ascaro
The three games in the bulletin came via David Flude. I hear that he has many others captured in the software but not uploaded to the Club web-site. Will give you an update tonight.
starter

Bereaved
17-06-2005, 11:29 PM
Dear Starter,

You Wrote

From macavity in the SHOUTBOX >
Quote:
As am I intermittently; i'm also restoring my room to a habitable state. I have been looking at the crosstable for the weekend and it is odd the pairings/fields that some people played owing to how they started and how some of the titled players met a relatively weak field; basically 7 rounds is not enough

The improvement should be sought by creating two divisions, not by increasing the number of rounds. A fair comparison of the pairings in the Welsher OPEN and the Mexican OPEN shows the Welshers had a much better set of pairings for the elite players, because they divisionalised.


From macavity in the SHOUTBOX >
Quote:
A person should feel comfortable in what they wear; I may not like what someone else wears for myself, but it is obviously ( hopefully!) not an accident that they are wearing it, and as a firm believer in not joining the fashion police or of espousing their cause, how can I comment? i'm sure most of them might have thought the same of me... .


Odd. I was just musing on this topic last night. The key question you have not addressed is what if a high profile sponsor was present in the playing arena. Would we want to jeopardise his/her sponsorship just because we don't want to police reasonable apparel?
I lost the argument because someone pointed out it is called the VIC Open, not the VIC Neat.

starter

Do you feel that you may have just possibly adopted a conversation that was not being held with you in order to piggy back a couple of points of your own? In the event of this being a discussion between you and I, there would be no problem; but as the discussion was based ona comparative between myself and other people at the Vic Open with one of the spectator's there, it would seem that should you have thought my words worthy of reproduction, you might have contained within your post some form of question for me to state an opinion, unless you are in fact inside my head and even now are forcing me to write this, in which case I will not require a response!! Failing that, please tell me in some straightforward manner, what you believe that my words meant, In the context of their given conversation!?

All the best,
Macavity VP

PS No idea how to make my quote of starter need no scroll bar as I don't know how to wrap the text; any admin welcome to fix this and this alone ( please :D
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ursogr8
18-06-2005, 06:41 PM
Dear Starter,

You Wrote


Do you feel that you may have just possibly adopted a conversation that was not being held with you in order to piggy back a couple of points of your own?

On reflection, yes I plead guilty. Hope you are not annoyed; no personal comment meant.




In the event of this being a discussion between you and I, there would be no problem; but as the discussion was based on a comparative between myself and other people at the Vic Open with one of the spectator's there, it would seem that should you have thought my words worthy of reproduction, you might have contained within your post some form of question for me to state an opinion, unless you are in fact inside my head and even now are forcing me to write this, in which case I will not require a response!!

M.
Not sure I understand your para.
What I was musing on whether a chess promoter ought to consider dress standards if he was accepting a sponsor's money.
Richmond Football Club lost sponsorship because a player was sprung drink-driving. Collingwood nearly lost sponsorship because a player was sprung speeding. If we accepted QUIT sponsorship would we have only 'invite' non-smoking players.

I was making absolutely no reflection on your outfit; to be honest I only noticed you were clean shaven when you pointed this out. I have no recollection of what you were wearing.


Failing that, please tell me in some straightforward manner, what you believe that my words meant, In the context of their given conversation!?

As I said, I was just piggybacking on your topic to expand on a discussion I had had Tuesday night.


All the best,
Macavity VP

with fondest admiration for the work you do for multiple Clubs
regards
starter

DoroPhil
18-06-2005, 06:41 PM
Last round, board 3... quite an interesting result... hmm... i'd like to see the scoresheet for that game...

ursogr8
18-06-2005, 07:03 PM
Last round, board 3... quite an interesting result... hmm... i'd like to see the scoresheet for that game...

I talked with David and Shaun last night. David has a high % of the games in his chess data-base, and was to send Shaun this week-end.
Phil, keep checking at this web-location. (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_results.htm#Games)


starter

Bereaved
18-06-2005, 08:13 PM
As far as the discussion goes ( between myself and Rincewind) the compliments were for my clothes, and therefore I was not concerned that I myself was out of place, but as the discussion glanced obliquely off the wardrobes others chose to wear, i was in the first instance commenting that I would judge not, lest I be judged.

The long departed John Summerfield once wrote an Article about travelling to play at Frankston Chess Club for Summer Interclub, and finding that the strict Dress codes of the venue ( the RSL) meant that some of the players from the then Whitehorse chess club had to borrow clothes from Frankston players to be allowed inside. I know that several of the NSW clubs meet in leagues clubs which I understand are similiar types of establishments; It would be interesting to see what they have considered as appropriate apparel at their venues.

As far as I can see though, it would seem that the world view outside of Music, Art and Movies seems to be that to be worthy of money, one must conform, whereas within it is the opposite.

So I guess to sell chess as a sport there might need to be changes, whereas the other two common perceptions that it is an art or a science would need no changes as both of those fields have within them the same tolerance and in some obscure way admiration for those who are unconventional ( eg the mad scientist, the mad artist)
Anyway this discussion may be of interest in some other thread so Gentleman Start(er) ;) :owned: your Engines!!

All the best Macavity

Bereaved
18-06-2005, 08:30 PM
Who is judging the best game, and when will the result be announced? and of course will the game be posted here?
all the best Macavity

kveldulv
19-06-2005, 01:45 AM
David has a high % of the games in his chess data-base, and was to send Shaun this week-end.
I haven't received anything from David yet.

I do have a big pile of scoresheets, but it's going to take some time to get through them and I don't want to start until I get games from David (so as not to waste effort entering games that he already has entered),

Shaun

Rincewind
19-06-2005, 10:18 AM
Who is judging the best game, and when will the result be announced? and of course will the game be posted here?
all the best Macavity

Perhaps entrants could post their games here themselves in the meantime. I noticed you copying a game and handing it to starter at the end of round 7 so I assume you have entered at least one of your games. ;)

ursogr8
19-06-2005, 11:06 AM
I haven't received anything from David yet.

I do have a big pile of scoresheets, but it's going to take some time to get through them and I don't want to start until I get games from David (so as not to waste effort entering games that he already has entered),

Shaun

Shaun
It may not be today as I understand he will be overdosing on excitement watching Nathan Buckley (for Werribee) and Angelo Lekkas (for Box Hill) in the local VFL game.

starter

Davidflude
19-06-2005, 12:46 PM
I tried to send Shaun games yesterday but My email bounced. I have chopped out lots of blank games and tried again a few minutes ago. My problem was compounded by having to reinstall my firewall software this morning.

Meanwhile one junior is busily entering games. For various reasons we did not have enough computers to carry out data entry during the tournament. Ideally we need about five computers but we only had one and that was backup to the computer used for recording results and generating pairings.

It is highly desirable that you know in advance how many computers you have and can arrange for shifts of helpers to enter games.

One other innovation was introduced at the Vic open. We showed a DVD in a back room. This kept the tiny tots amused and out of the way whilst their siblings were playing in the tournament. Attached are some games.

Mischa
19-06-2005, 04:47 PM
Yes thankyou Thai for the DVD and keeping the two little ones happy...it certainly made me happy!

kveldulv
21-06-2005, 10:50 PM
Games have been updated. Click here to download. (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_results.htm#Games)

ursogr8
22-06-2005, 01:34 PM
Who is judging the best game, and when will the result be announced? and of course will the game be posted here?
all the best Macavity
hi MP

What I know is that 15 games have been submitted. Your game against MD is included in the list. Our first target judge is inspecting parts of France; so we are looking for an alternate. ;)
It could be a long winter on this one.

starter

ursogr8
08-07-2005, 08:56 PM
The winner of the best played game at the 2005 VIC OPEN week-ender
is covered in this news item. (http://www.boxhillchess.org.au/vicchess/2005_vic_open_news.htm)

starter

Altecman
21-08-2005, 12:31 AM
I enjoyed the Vic Open but i heard that it was badly orgainised is that true

Altecman
04-12-2005, 09:31 AM
I want to download the games from The Victorian Open (2005) But they are not all there, i am curious when are Box Hill going to post all of the games on the web site? They have all the score sheets, can someone answer to this question!!

kveldulv
04-12-2005, 08:50 PM
I enjoyed the Vic Open but i heard that it was badly orgainised is that true
Personally, I think it was very well organized - the team are very experienced and have it down to a fine art!

kveldulv
04-12-2005, 09:38 PM
I want to download the games from The Victorian Open (2005) But they are not all there, i am curious when are Box Hill going to post all of the games on the web site? They have all the score sheets, can someone answer to this question!!
Unfortunately, what is there now is as good as it is going to get.

I have all the submitted scoresheets from the event in a box. I spent far too much effort trying to sort, group, and just make sense of them.

A high percentage of scoresheets were simply not submitted. The number of scoresheets with no names or any of the other header info filled out is also suprisingly high. Many others are just completely illegible.

Undoubtedly, there are still quite a few that could be entered, but the biggest problem is that there are no volunteers doing data entry.

Shaun