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skip to my lou
26-01-2005, 10:16 AM
Traceroute

To determine the route packets are taking from your computer to the server:

Please run "tracert chesschat.org" or "traceroute chesschat.org" and paste the results here.

Ping

Please run "ping -n 20 chesschat.org" or "ping -c 20 chesschat.org" and paste the results here.

Speed Test

Download http://netlogistics.com.au/speedtest/10mb.bin and state the speed you are able to download at.

How to Paste from Command Prompt / PuTTy

To paste from windows command prompt, right click, select all, and press enter. The paste in post and edit out details as required.

From PuTTy, just highlight the traceroute (it will copy automatically) and paste here.

Thank you.

Bill Gletsos
26-01-2005, 11:01 AM
ping -n 20 chesschat.org

Pinging chesschat.org [67.43.11.40] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=244ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=235ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=238ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=240ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=235ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=238ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 67.43.11.40:
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 235ms, Maximum = 246ms, Average = 238ms



Download speed was 180Kb/sec

Spiny Norman
26-01-2005, 11:23 AM
Tracing route to chesschat.org [67.43.11.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 141 ms 135 ms 136 ms 139.134.52.73
2 134 ms 143 ms 135 ms gigabitethernet3-2.win-core1.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.76.85]
3 149 ms 151 ms 151 ms pos-channel1.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.13]
4 150 ms 151 ms 152 ms interfacea.oxf-core1.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.2]
5 141 ms 143 ms 143 ms gigabitethernet2-2.syd-core03.sydney.net.reach.com [203.50.13.30]
6 133 ms 143 ms 135 ms i-6-0.syd-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.249.13]
7 286 ms 295 ms 287 ms i-6-2.wil-core02.net.reach.com [202.84.249.69]
8 390 ms 295 ms 295 ms i-3-2.wil03.net.reach.com [202.84.251.170]
9 360 ms 293 ms 288 ms pos1-0.gw2.lax15.alter.net [157.130.247.157]
10 344 ms 295 ms 295 ms 0.so-3-0-0.cl1.lax15.alter.net [152.63.117.90]
11 358 ms 287 ms 287 ms 0.so-1-0-0.tl1.lax9.alter.net [152.63.115.142]
12 342 ms 335 ms 343 ms 0.so-5-0-0.tl1.chi2.alter.net [152.63.1.145]
13 342 ms 343 ms 343 ms 0.so-7-0-0.xl1.chi2.alter.net [152.63.68.81]
14 350 ms 343 ms 343 ms pos6-0.gw7.chi2.alter.net [152.63.67.189]
15 366 ms 367 ms 367 ms liquidwebOC12-gw.customer.alter.net [65.207.234.198]
16 366 ms 359 ms 359 ms lw-core2-ge2.liquidweb.com [209.59.157.34]
17 357 ms 359 ms 359 ms lw-dist1-ge2.liquidweb.com [209.59.157.14]
18 350 ms 351 ms 352 ms 67.43.11.40
Trace complete.

Pinging chesschat.org [67.43.11.40] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=359ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=343ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=343ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=353ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=342ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=342ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=341ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=340ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=348ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=356ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=355ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=352ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=351ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=350ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=349ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=349ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=343ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=341ms TTL=47
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=454ms TTL=47

Ping statistics for 67.43.11.40:
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 340ms, Maximum = 454ms, Average = 353ms

I didn't bother doing the 10MB download as I am on modem dialup at the moment and it would take too long.

skip to my lou
26-01-2005, 11:27 AM
Frostly, can you please download http://winmtr.sourceforge.com/ and run it on host chesschat.org, and then paste the output here. It's just a recursive traceroute so it builds loss, min, max, average.. most interested in loss % figure.

skip to my lou
26-01-2005, 11:28 AM
Sorry that is http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/

Spiny Norman
26-01-2005, 11:51 AM
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|----------------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 139.134.52.73 - 1 | 101 | 100 | 120 | 141 | 241 | 130 |
|gigabitethernet3-2.win-core1.melbourne.telstra.net - 1 | 101 | 100 | 120 | 139 | 180 | 120 |
| pos-channel1.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 130 | 153 | 501 | 170 |
| interfacea.oxf-core1.sydney.telstra.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 131 | 160 | 341 | 151 |
|gigabitethernet2-2.syd-core03.sydney.net.reach.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 130 | 158 | 351 | 131 |
| i-6-0.syd-core01.net.reach.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 130 | 149 | 181 | 140 |
| i-6-2.wil-core02.net.reach.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 280 | 291 | 330 | 290 |
| i-3-2.wil03.net.reach.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 281 | 305 | 430 | 300 |
| pos1-0.gw2.lax15.alter.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 280 | 298 | 341 | 300 |
| 0.so-3-0-0.cl1.lax15.alter.net - 5 | 100 | 95 | 280 | 308 | 361 | 310 |
| 0.so-1-0-0.tl1.lax9.alter.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 280 | 299 | 351 | 311 |
| 0.so-5-0-0.tl1.chi2.alter.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 330 | 346 | 390 | 341 |
| 0.so-7-0-0.xl1.chi2.alter.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 330 | 351 | 401 | 341 |
| pos6-0.gw7.chi2.alter.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 330 | 349 | 411 | 341 |
| liquidwebOC12-gw.customer.alter.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 350 | 370 | 561 | 360 |
| lw-core2-ge2.liquidweb.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 350 | 382 | 1302 | 1302 |
| lw-dist1-ge2.liquidweb.com - 1 | 100 | 99 | 350 | 369 | 421 | 370 |
| 67.43.11.40 - 1 | 100 | 99 | 340 | 365 | 752 | 360 |
|_________________________________________________ ________|______|______|______|______|______|______ |
WinMTR - 0.8. Copyleft @2000-2002 Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir ( stanimir@cr.nivis.com )


Looks like 0.so-3-0-0.cl1.lax15.alter.net is a little slow in responding to pings, but its not dropping packets as such because the routers beyond are not showing similar loss.

skip to my lou
26-01-2005, 12:17 PM
Thanks.

skip to my lou
26-01-2005, 12:23 PM
ping -n 20 chesschat.org

Pinging chesschat.org [67.43.11.40] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=244ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=235ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=238ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=240ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=235ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=238ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=49
Reply from 67.43.11.40: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 67.43.11.40:
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 235ms, Maximum = 246ms, Average = 238ms



Download speed was 180Kb/sec

I guess you can't tracert because your ISP has blocked 92byte ICMP packets.

Bill Gletsos
26-01-2005, 12:35 PM
Tracing route to chesschat.org [67.43.11.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms home-eq4v3hgats.mshome.net [192.168.0.1]
2 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 10.27.64.1
3 11 ms 9 ms 18 ms bla4-pos4-2.gw.optusnet.com.au [198.142.192.5]
4 13 ms 11 ms 13 ms mas2-pos5-3.gw.optusnet.com.au [198.142.192.89]
5 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms mas5-ge4-2.gw.optusnet.com.au [211.29.129.97]
6 10 ms 13 ms 10 ms mas3-ge1-2.gw.optusnet.com.au [211.29.129.117]
7 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms pos1-2.ig6.optus.net.au [61.88.178.89]
8 173 ms 172 ms 172 ms 203.208.148.81
9 169 ms 170 ms 172 ms ge-3-0-0.plapx-ar1.ix.singtel.com [203.208.168.134]
10 172 ms 172 ms 172 ms bpr1-ge-4-3-0.PaloAltoPaix.savvis.net [206.24.241.93]
11 172 ms 172 ms 172 ms dcr1-so-3-3-0.SanFranciscosfo.savvis.net [206.24.211.73]
12 229 ms 229 ms 272 ms dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.99]
13 227 ms 228 ms 229 ms acr1-so-1-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.78]
14 237 ms 236 ms 236 ms liquid-web-inc.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.174]
15 237 ms 237 ms 241 ms lw-core1-ge4.liquidweb.com [209.59.157.22]
16 249 ms 242 ms 247 ms lw-dist1-ge1.liquidweb.com [209.59.157.2]
17 236 ms 237 ms 236 ms 67.43.11.40

Trace complete.

skip to my lou
26-01-2005, 12:54 PM
Thanks

skip to my lou
27-01-2005, 08:22 PM
One more!

http://www.netlogistics.net.au/speedtest/10mb.bin

Please post ping / traceroute (to www.netlogistics.net.au) too, if possible, thanks.

skip to my lou
27-01-2005, 09:53 PM
Currently Active Users: 78 (25 members and 53 guests)

Thanks for all the help guys! :D

skip to my lou
29-01-2005, 10:38 AM
Anyone?

Rincewind
29-01-2005, 11:53 AM
Anyone?

Sorry dude been busy. I'll try and get organised after lunch.

Spiny Norman
29-01-2005, 12:18 PM
Here you go:




|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|----------------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 139.134.52.73 - 0 | 100 | 100 | 120 | 142 | 301 | 120 |
|GigabitEthernet3-2.win-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 120 | 141 | 181 | 180 |
| Pos-Channel1.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 130 | 155 | 191 | 170 |
| InterfaceA.oxf-core1.Sydney.telstra.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 130 | 161 | 341 | 261 |
|GigabitEthernet2-2.syd-core03.Sydney.net.reach.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 130 | 160 | 321 | 141 |
| i-6-0.syd-core01.net.reach.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 130 | 150 | 341 | 140 |
| i-6-2.wil-core02.net.reach.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 280 | 300 | 451 | 290 |
| 202.84.251.166 - 1 | 100 | 99 | 280 | 300 | 511 | 290 |
| POS1-0.GW2.LAX15.ALTER.NET - 0 | 100 | 100 | 290 | 303 | 341 | 300 |
| 0.so-3-0-0.CL2.LAX15.ALTER.NET - 1 | 100 | 99 | 281 | 307 | 351 | 290 |
| 0.so-0-0-0.TL2.LAX2.ALTER.NET - 2 | 100 | 98 | 280 | 298 | 350 | 320 |
| 0.so-1-2-0.TL2.CHI2.ALTER.NET - 1 | 100 | 99 | 350 | 362 | 571 | 361 |
| 0.so-7-0-0.XL2.CHI2.ALTER.NET - 0 | 100 | 100 | 340 | 354 | 491 | 361 |
| POS7-0.GW7.CHI2.ALTER.NET - 0 | 100 | 100 | 340 | 359 | 401 | 361 |
| liquidwebOC12-gw.customer.alter.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 341 | 364 | 410 | 351 |
| lw-core1-ge2.liquidweb.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 350 | 377 | 491 | 370 |
| lw-dist1-ge1.liquidweb.com - 1 | 100 | 99 | 350 | 369 | 431 | 360 |
| 67.43.11.40 - 1 | 100 | 99 | 340 | 360 | 400 | 360 |
|_________________________________________________ _________|______|______|______|______|______|_____ _|





|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|----------------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 139.134.52.73 - 0 | 100 | 100 | 120 | 143 | 240 | 150 |
|GigabitEthernet3-2.win-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 120 | 141 | 151 | 150 |
| Pos-Channel1.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 131 | 146 | 171 | 140 |
| GigabitEthernet1-2.ken12.Sydney.telstra.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 131 | 150 | 310 | 151 |
| agilec.lnk.telstra.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 140 | 153 | 471 | 150 |
| gi0.bdr1.syd2.agile.on.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 130 | 148 | 260 | 150 |
| pos1-0.cor1.cbr1.agile.on.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 140 | 160 | 441 | 160 |
| 150.101.195.48 - 0 | 100 | 100 | 140 | 158 | 1152 | 1152 |
|_________________________________________________ _________|______|______|______|______|______|_____ _|

Rincewind
29-01-2005, 12:56 PM
Sorry dude been busy. I'll try and get organised after lunch.

Did you just want me to run WinMTR on the two hostnames? Also how did you get it to stop after 100 packets?

Anyway, here are my results on www.netlogistics.net.au


|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.1.1 - 0 | 106 | 106 | 0 | 2 | 47 | 0 |
| 233.1.233.220.exetel.com.au - 0 | 106 | 106 | 15 | 34 | 94 | 63 |
| 254.0.233.220.exetel.com.au - 2 | 106 | 104 | 0 | 36 | 203 | 63 |
| Vlan366.o2gsc76f03.optus.net.au - 0 | 106 | 106 | 15 | 46 | 281 | 47 |
| GE-WAN3-4.un2.optus.net.au - 1 | 106 | 105 | 15 | 36 | 94 | 47 |
|gigabitethernet4-3.ken12.Sydney.telstra.net - 1 | 106 | 105 | 15 | 42 | 234 | 172 |
| agilec.lnk.telstra.net - 4 | 106 | 102 | 15 | 43 | 422 | 31 |
| gi0.bdr1.syd2.agile.on.net - 0 | 105 | 105 | 15 | 41 | 203 | 63 |
| pos1-0.cor1.cbr1.agile.on.net - 1 | 105 | 104 | 31 | 64 | 281 | 94 |
| 150.101.195.48 - 0 | 105 | 105 | 31 | 54 | 109 | 78 |
|________________________________________________| ______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR - 0.8. Copyleft @2000-2002 Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir ( stanimir@cr.nivis.com )

And for chesschat.org


|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.1.1 - 0 | 150 | 150 | 0 | 11 | 63 | 0 |
| 233.1.233.220.exetel.com.au - 1 | 150 | 149 | 15 | 52 | 171 | 47 |
| 254.0.233.220.exetel.com.au - 2 | 149 | 147 | 15 | 51 | 203 | 62 |
| Vlan366.o2gsc76f03.optus.net.au - 1 | 149 | 148 | 15 | 52 | 313 | 47 |
| 203.208.148.105 - 2 | 149 | 147 | 171 | 217 | 391 | 219 |
| ge-3-0-0.plapx-ar1.ix.singtel.com - 3 | 149 | 145 | 172 | 217 | 375 | 250 |
| bpr1-ge-4-3-0.PaloAltoPaix.savvis.net - 3 | 149 | 146 | 171 | 212 | 375 | 203 |
|dcr1-so-3-3-0.SanFranciscosfo.savvis.net - 3 | 149 | 145 | 172 | 216 | 360 | 235 |
| dcr2-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net - 2 | 149 | 147 | 219 | 271 | 578 | 250 |
| acr1-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net - 2 | 149 | 147 | 219 | 268 | 422 | 265 |
| liquid-web-inc.Chicago.savvis.net - 0 | 149 | 149 | 234 | 277 | 391 | 250 |
| lw-core1-ge4.liquidweb.com - 3 | 149 | 146 | 234 | 283 | 515 | 281 |
| lw-dist1-ge1.liquidweb.com - 2 | 149 | 147 | 234 | 279 | 422 | 281 |
| 67.43.11.40 - 2 | 149 | 147 | 234 | 288 | 1204 | 1204 |
|________________________________________________| ______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR - 0.8. Copyleft @2000-2002 Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir ( stanimir@cr.nivis.com )

Spiny Norman
29-01-2005, 01:01 PM
Also how did you get it to stop after 100 packets?

Watched it like a hawk and was super quick on the mouse trigger! If it ran on one or two lines at 101 packets I just manually changed them back from 101 to 100 to maintain "the look" ... as long as those routers were not losing any data it didn't affect the stats.

skip to my lou
30-01-2005, 01:03 PM
Thanks.. and how about the file download speed?

Spiny Norman
30-01-2005, 01:27 PM
Thanks.. and how about the file download speed?

I'm still on dialup modem. Hang on a 'sec and I'll VPN into work. We've got a 6Mb/sec fibre link there that'll suffice for a solid test. In a couple of weeks I should be back on ADSL (hoping to negotiate a 2048/384 VLAN link into my work, just have to get our CFO to sign off on the $$$).

skip to my lou
30-01-2005, 01:37 PM
I am trying to find a reasonably priced router that will accept multiple WAN connections, so I can hook up my cable and a couple of ADSL links.

Spiny Norman
30-01-2005, 02:18 PM
I am trying to find a reasonably priced router that will accept multiple WAN connections, so I can hook up my cable and a couple of ADSL links.

I suppose it depends what "reasonably priced" means. Recently at work I have purchased a D-Link DES-3326SR Layer 3 Routing Switch ... 24 x 100Mbit/sec ports, plus a bay where you can add gigabit or fibre modules if you want to. Unfortunately I have found the web interface for the thing non-intuitive in terms of setup so will have to arrange for someone to come in and help me with the VLAN Layer 3 setup. Cost around $1000.

In the past I have worked with Intel 550T Routing Switches ... easier to setup, but you need their Intel device view software, no web interface available. I still have one of these @ work pre-configured as a hot spare for the DES-3326SR when its finally deployed. I would expect to pay about $500 second hand for one of these, but I've not been able to find any available anywhere (they're about 5 years old, but very good!).

Spiny Norman
30-01-2005, 02:22 PM
Hang on a 'sec and I'll VPN into work.

OK, here's the results:

Download from http://www.netlogistics.net.au/speedtest/10mb.bin:

10.0MB in 15 seconds (transfer rate 682KB/sec).

traceroute to chesschat.org:


|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 203.94.135.169 - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 1 | 31 | 0 |
| vl186.agg1.bur200.uecomm.net.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 2 | 16 | 0 |
| vl170.agg1.que31.uecomm.net.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 4 | 125 | 0 |
| 179.gi1.br1.cit190.uecomm.net.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 2 | 140 | 0 |
| VLAN323.o3mlc76f05.optus.net.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 4 | 109 | 0 |
| 203.208.148.101 - 1 | 100 | 99 | 172 | 192 | 297 | 188 |
| ge-3-0-0.plapx-ar1.ix.singtel.com - 1 | 100 | 99 | 171 | 189 | 281 | 187 |
| bpr1-ge-4-3-0.PaloAltoPaix.savvis.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 171 | 186 | 250 | 187 |
|dcr1-so-3-3-0.SanFranciscosfo.savvis.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 171 | 186 | 203 | 188 |
| dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 234 | 235 | 297 | 234 |
| acr1-so-1-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 218 | 220 | 235 | 218 |
| liquid-web-inc.Chicago.savvis.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 234 | 236 | 265 | 235 |
| lw-core1-ge4.liquidweb.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 234 | 249 | 1047 | 484 |
| lw-dist1-ge1.liquidweb.com - 0 | 100 | 100 | 234 | 245 | 937 | 234 |
| 67.43.11.40 - 0 | 100 | 100 | 234 | 237 | 266 | 234 |
|________________________________________________| ______|______|______|______|______|______|


traceroute to www.netlogistics.net.au:


|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 203.94.135.169 - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 0 | 31 | 0 |
| vl186.agg1.bur200.uecomm.net.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| vl170.agg1.que31.uecomm.net.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 2 | 140 | 0 |
| 185.gi0-3.que31-cs1.uecomm.net.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 2 | 140 | 0 |
| come-and-join-us-at.ausix.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| you-want-fries-with-your.ausix.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 0 | 47 | 0 |
| f1-0.mel001.pacific.net.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 8 | 219 | 0 |
| FastEthernet0-0.mel003.pacific.net.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 9 | 16 | 16 |
| gi0-2-202.cor2.mel2.internode.on.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 19 | 297 | 16 |
| pos2-0.cor1.cbr1.agile.on.net - 0 | 100 | 100 | 31 | 37 | 265 | 31 |
| 150.101.195.48 - 0 | 100 | 100 | 16 | 30 | 32 | 31 |
|________________________________________________| ______|______|______|______|______|______|

skip to my lou
30-01-2005, 02:31 PM
I was originally thinking < $1000 for such a router, I will have to do some research when I get a chance.

Also considering VoIP, but have no idea where to start.

Spiny Norman
30-01-2005, 02:39 PM
I was originally thinking < $1000 for such a router, I will have to do some research when I get a chance. Also considering VoIP, but have no idea where to start.

Re: routers ... 2nd-hand would be the way to go probably. Focus on readily available models and see if you can buy 2 of them (one as a hot spare) for < $1K.

Re: VOIP ... we use it a little @ work ... we have about 6 OKI VOIP routers. They're damn expensive critters (a lot more than $1k). Did you mean personal VOIP, because if so just use software, not hardware. There's a bunch of them about. Fair bit of chat about VOIP goes on at the Whirlpool website (www.whirlpool.net.au).

Rincewind
30-01-2005, 02:40 PM
I started the download at around 3:35 and it came through at around 75.6 kB/s which is well below my link's theoretical capacity.

Here is the speed results.


|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.1.1 - 0 | 101 | 101 | 0 | 2 | 32 | 0 |
| 233.1.233.220.exetel.com.au - 0 | 100 | 100 | 0 | 16 | 63 | 16 |
| 254.0.233.220.exetel.com.au - 3 | 100 | 97 | 0 | 22 | 203 | 16 |
| Vlan366.O2GSC76F03.optus.net.au - 3 | 100 | 97 | 0 | 27 | 250 | 16 |
| GE-WAN3-4.un2.optus.net.au - 6 | 100 | 94 | 0 | 16 | 63 | 16 |
|gigabitethernet4-3.ken12.sydney.telstra.net - 2 | 100 | 98 | 15 | 21 | 125 | 16 |
| agilec.lnk.telstra.net - 4 | 100 | 96 | 0 | 28 | 406 | 16 |
| gi0.bdr1.syd2.agile.on.net - 6 | 100 | 94 | 0 | 23 | 188 | 16 |
| pos1-0.cor1.cbr1.agile.on.net - 4 | 100 | 96 | 31 | 39 | 219 | 31 |
| 150.101.195.48 - 6 | 100 | 94 | 31 | 36 | 94 | 31 |
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WinMTR - 0.8. Copyleft @2000-2002 Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir ( stanimir@cr.nivis.com )

skip to my lou
30-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Re: routers ... 2nd-hand would be the way to go probably. Focus on readily available models and see if you can buy 2 of them (one as a hot spare) for < $1K.

Re: VOIP ... we use it a little @ work ... we have about 6 OKI VOIP routers. They're damn expensive critters (a lot more than $1k). Did you mean personal VOIP, because if so just use software, not hardware. There's a bunch of them about. Fair bit of chat about VOIP goes on at the Whirlpool website (www.whirlpool.net.au).

Okay, basically what I want to do is to get a 1300 number, and then we need to route to different land lines for different departments, and maybe have the option to route to mobile temporarily.

Not sure how to do this and not sure about the capabilities of VoIP either.

I'll be taking a look at whirlpool for sure.

skip to my lou
30-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Thanks Barry. Not sure why throughput is so low.. hmm.

Rincewind
30-01-2005, 03:06 PM
Thanks Barry. Not sure why throughput is so low.. hmm.

Thought it might be my ISP but I was able to download your file and

http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sslexplorer/sslexplorer_windows_0_1_7.exe

At a combined download speed of around 155 kB/s which is when my link should be maxing out.

The opusnet download on it's own ran at about 120. Your file on it's own was slightly faster than before but still only around 85.

Bill Gletsos
30-01-2005, 04:05 PM
BTW my attempt just now to download http://www.netlogistics.net.au/speedtest/10mb.bin resulted in a speed of 297Kb/sec

Rincewind
30-01-2005, 05:31 PM
BTW my attempt just now to download http://www.netlogistics.net.au/speedtest/10mb.bin resulted in a speed of 297Kb/sec

Weird. Now it is coming down at 15kB/s. Sslexplorer is still coming down at around 85 kB/s. There is zero other network traffic as far as I know. There might be something happening on my gateway, but I doubt it as I can hear the disk when it spins and it isn't spinning at the moment.

Spiny Norman
31-01-2005, 07:11 PM
Okay, basically what I want to do is to get a 1300 number, and then we need to route to different land lines for different departments, and maybe have the option to route to mobile temporarily.

A variety of options to think about:

www.mbox.com.au ... fax/voicemail/sms --> email

There was a company in Sydney I dealt with briefly that offered really cheap 1300 number services that could be changed to different numbers fairly readily ... but what would be really cool is if they had a web interface so you could change the call routing yourself when needed. Send me a PM or email and I'll look up their name as it escapes me just at the moment and I have to go out tonight (I'm running late already!).

skip to my lou
01-02-2005, 09:55 PM
Barry, have you ever heard of using a linux? box with maybe two NIC's and load balance across both WAN's?

I found this XinCom Dual WAN Router w/ Load Balancing, Investigating. By the sounds of things though it does not support heartbeat :(

Rincewind
01-02-2005, 10:58 PM
Barry, have you ever heard of using a linux? box with maybe two NIC's and load balance across both WAN's?

I found this XinCom Dual WAN Router w/ Load Balancing, Investigating. By the sounds of things though it does not support heartbeat :(

No never. Not sure how you would load balance. Do all nodes on your network have connections to both WANs or do you spread your servers across the two WANs?

skip to my lou
01-02-2005, 11:53 PM
At the moment, two seperate networks altogether. I got the D Link 501 w/ switch and a D Link 704P. I read on whirlpool, load balancing on router means you can use both WAN links as if it were just one link. If one WAN link fails then the over all speed will slow down but you do not lose connectivity, apparently. Still reading.

skip to my lou
02-02-2005, 07:59 PM
I found this company called XinCom that make Dual WAN routers. It load balances over both and also has failover protection, which is good. Cost not bad either: $570 brand new.