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bobby1972,1/2
11-01-2005, 08:37 PM
Mt. Buller Top Ten

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1. Sedina 8.5
2. Johansen 8.0
3. Hecht 8.0
4. D'Amore 8.0
5. Arlandi 7.5
6. Kengis 7.5
7. Dragicevic 7.5
8. Jordan 7.5
9. Pecori 7.5
10. Bjelobrk 7.0

my goodness half yes half the field is a" MELBOURNE CHESS CLUB "
player what a chess club the metrics speak for themself.GO MCC

Bill Gletsos
11-01-2005, 09:22 PM
Are they actual members of MCC or do they just play in tournaments there.

JGB
11-01-2005, 09:27 PM
my goodness half yes half the field is a" MELBOURNE CHESS CLUB "
player what a chess club the metrics speak for themself.GO MCC

Bobby:
They do say something. Definetly a good club to mingle with. :cool:
How often do these players listed above play at the Club. I am pretty sure you are a regular or am I wrong?

firegoat7
11-01-2005, 10:11 PM
Johansen and Jordan - Life members
Dragicevic and Pecori- current members
Bjelobrk- currently not a member, but former =club champion in 2003.

JGB- both Jordan and Pecori are MCC regulars, often found at the club playing blitz, coaching or looking at games.
Dragicevic regularly plays in most MCC events.

The other two seldom play at MCC anymore, but sometimes play in tournaments at MCC.

Cheers FG7

P.S West, Rujevic ,Froehlich, Speck and Levi were all regularly seen at MCC last year.

JGB
12-01-2005, 02:18 AM
Johansen and Jordan - Life members
Dragicevic and Pecori- current members
Bjelobrk- currently not a member, but former =club champion in 2003.

JGB- both Jordan and Pecori are MCC regulars, often found at the club playing blitz, coaching or looking at games.
Dragicevic regularly plays in most MCC events.

The other two seldom play at MCC anymore, but sometimes play in tournaments at MCC.

Cheers FG7

P.S West, Rujevic ,Froehlich, Speck and Levi were all regularly seen at MCC last year.

...Then see you next week. ;)

ursogr8
16-01-2005, 12:23 PM
Johansen and Jordan - Life members
Dragicevic and Pecori- current members
Bjelobrk- currently not a member, but former =club champion in 2003.

JGB- both Jordan and Pecori are MCC regulars, often found at the club playing blitz, coaching or looking at games.
Dragicevic regularly plays in most MCC events.

The other two seldom play at MCC anymore, but sometimes play in tournaments at MCC.

Cheers FG7

P.S West, Rujevic ,Froehlich, Speck and Levi were all regularly seen at MCC last year.


fg7


I wish Box Hill Chess Club could claim the same as the impressive MCC list.

Which of these will be playing for MCC in INTERCLUB this year?
Will MCC be bidding to host some divisions or zones?

starter

Woodstocker
17-01-2005, 11:56 AM
Mt. Buller Top Ten

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1. Sedina 8.5
2. Johansen 8.0
3. Hecht 8.0
4. D'Amore 8.0
5. Arlandi 7.5
6. Kengis 7.5
7. Dragicevic 7.5
8. Jordan 7.5
9. Pecori 7.5
10. Bjelobrk 7.0

my goodness half yes half the field is a" MELBOURNE CHESS CLUB "
player what a chess club the metrics speak for themself.GO MCC


Perhaps I should have asked for a posting in Melbourne.

Very few players over 2000 seem to play in Sydney torns.

A look at the rating list shows an awful lot of good players in New South Wales dont play many rated games.

Does the New South Wales chess board attempt to attract them back to playing torns?

Thunk
17-01-2005, 12:08 PM
Perhaps I should have asked for a posting in Melbourne.

Very few players over 2000 seem to play in Sydney torns.

A look at the rating list shows an awful lot of good players in New South Wales dont play many rated games.

Does the New South Wales chess board attempt to attract them back to playing torns?

thE zonal in nEw zEaland offErs a largE EnrolmEnt ovEr 2000.
somE arE nsw playErs.


:cool: thE HUNK :cool:

Trent Parker
17-01-2005, 12:35 PM
Perhaps I should have asked for a posting in Melbourne.

Very few players over 2000 seem to play in Sydney torns.

It depends on which tourneys you are talking about.... A category 3 GP event in Sydney attracts many players 2000+

Eg NSW Open = 11players 2000+ of which 2 are from o/s the rest from NSW


1 Rogers, Ian NSW 2646 7
2 Ayvazyan, Armen NSW 2121 5.5
3-5 Xie, George NSW 2319 5
Wei, Michael ACT 1953 5
Song, Raymond NSW 1903 5
6-14 Camer, Angelito NSW 2077 4.5
Bolens, Johny NSW 2061 4.5
Kabir, Ruhul NSW 2244 4.5
Agulto, Edgardo NSW 2113 4.5
Goris, Robert NSW 2190 4.5
Compton, Alistair OS 2112 4.5
Ikeda, Junta ACT 1819 4.5
Mendes da Costa, Alex NSW 1782 4.5
Murray, Bruce D NSW 1877 4.5
15-22 Schultz-Pedersen, Jesper OS 2180 4
Illingworth, Max NSW 1761 4
Capilitan, Romeo NSW 2005 4
.....

bobby1972
17-01-2005, 01:10 PM
Go Victoria
hey not only MCC ,say last box hill turnry i was the 11th seed very strong.mcc champs is always very strong,vic ch is the best hard to get a draw in that one,vic open is always strong,and begonia.all in all victoria for chess

Rincewind
17-01-2005, 03:20 PM
Go Victoria
hey not only MCC ,say last box hill turnry i was the 11th seed very strong.mcc champs is always very strong,vic ch is the best hard to get a draw in that one,vic open is always strong,and begonia.all in all victoria for chess

I agree. I think this is the same phenomenon as witnessed in Europe. For good chess you need a reasonable population and poor weather. ;)

Rincewind
17-01-2005, 03:47 PM
I think you are going to get some flack from the Welshers on this one Baz. Surely some of their chess playing population are reasonable. Take Bill for example. ;)

Boy am I glad I didn't say "a reasonably large population". :eek:

firegoat7
18-01-2005, 09:19 AM
fg7


I wish Box Hill Chess Club could claim the same as the impressive MCC list.

Which of these will be playing for MCC in INTERCLUB this year?
Will MCC be bidding to host some divisions or zones?

starter

Im sure Box Hill will have an even more impressive list in the next few years , due to its excellent administration and ability to grow players.

As for Interclub, well it needs some sort of revitalising. Maybe ChessVictoria needs to discuss Interclub with the top 20 players in Victorian chess, ask them- how can we get you to play?

My opinion of the matter, which may or may not count for much is that Interclub should be, just that, a club competition not a team event. Maybe, get rid of stupid names like the team I once played for (the cashdy bundies).

(For a suggestion out of left field).Let's get Interschool connected with the chess clubs via Interclub. How about getting ChessVictoria to engage the private coaching services ie Chessworld, ChessEd, ChessIdeas etc to divy up zones for schools.

For example, ChessVictoria organises that junior Interschool becomes part of Interclub. The private organisations present information to ChessVictoria about how many of there teams they want to play in the ChessVictoria event.
ChessVictoria then ensures that all schools are organised within a zone around certain clubs. ie, Elwood High is in Elwoods zone, Torquay high in Geelongs etc.
Clubs then take responsibilty for explaining to schoolchildren, what is expected in a team tournament, but more importantly, get them rated within the ChessVictoria system.
Interschool is then played under two flags, one the school flag, (very important for generating publicity,competition, players,clubs and status- important for coaching organisations) , the second a club affiliation, which, at the moment, is lacking since anybody , can and does, play for any old club ie (the cashdy bundies).

We might have to change Interclub to Saturday afternoons!

cheers FG7

ursogr8
18-01-2005, 09:59 AM
Im sure Box Hill will have an even more impressive list in the next few years , due to its excellent administration and ability to grow players.

As for Interclub, well it needs some sort of revitalising. Maybe ChessVictoria needs to discuss Interclub with the top 20 players in Victorian chess, ask them- how can we get you to play?

My opinion of the matter, which may or may not count for much is that Interclub should be, just that, a club competition not a team event. Maybe, get rid of stupid names like the team I once played for (the cashdy bundies).

(For a suggestion out of left field).Let's get Interschool connected with the chess clubs via Interclub. How about getting ChessVictoria to engage the private coaching services ie Chessworld, ChessEd, ChessIdeas etc to divy up zones for schools.

For example, ChessVictoria organises that junior Interschool becomes part of Interclub. The private organisations present information to ChessVictoria about how many of there teams they want to play in the ChessVictoria event.
ChessVictoria then ensures that all schools are organised within a zone around certain clubs. ie, Elwood High is in Elwoods zone, Torquay high in Geelongs etc.
Clubs then take responsibilty for explaining to schoolchildren, what is expected in a team tournament, but more importantly, get them rated within the ChessVictoria system.
Interschool is then played under two flags, one the school flag, (very important for generating publicity,competition, players,clubs and status- important for coaching organisations) , the second a club affiliation, which, at the moment, is lacking since anybody , can and does, play for any old club ie (the cashdy bundies).

We might have to change Interclub to Saturday afternoons!

cheers FG7

Good morning fg7

All of your post is a bit left field for me. This is not a criticism, just a reflection of the fact that I asked a question thinking it was an bounded question, and your response sort of escapes from the straight-jacket.
Valuable ideas of yours.
You need to engage CV, and they do not visit here on the BB.
An alternate suggestion is to lodge your post as a letter to the EDITOR of the CV Newsletter...which I hear is about to be re-lanched this month.


starter

ursogr8
18-01-2005, 10:03 AM
Boy am I glad I didn't say "a reasonably large population". :eek:

Do you have access to my WPB? I thought I deleted that post. :doh:
I feared we were heading down a path to Mt B.

starter

Rincewind
18-01-2005, 11:13 AM
Do you have access to my WPB? I thought I deleted that post. :doh:
I feared we were heading down a path to Mt B.

I do have access to deleted posts but I did not (nor would I) (ab-)use this to quote from a deleted post. In this case, I just quoted your message before you deleted it. I saw you deleted the original but as no super powers were necessary, I decided to not deleted my post unless you specifically requested it.

firegoat7
18-01-2005, 11:54 AM
Starter, may i be so bold as to suggest, that it is not ChessVictoria that runs the show in Victoria. It is the clubs themselves that run chess. All ChessVictoria needs to do is to facilitate communication between clubs and provide the right framework for the clubs themselves to drive any initiative at a grassroots level.
Centralisation of power in the decision making is not necessary, all that is needed is logical frameworks, good communication and a touch of visionary (not controlling) initiative from ChessVictoria.

It must be remembered that all communication is a two way street, and while it also certainly less then ideal that MCC does not attend ChessVictoria meetings, it is equally less then ideal that nobody from ChessVictoria posts here regularly, nor on that matter do they visit all clubs regularly.

Cheers FG7

ursogr8
18-01-2005, 12:04 PM
I do have access to deleted posts but I did not (nor would I) (ab-)use this to quote from a deleted post. In this case, I just quoted your message before you deleted it. I saw you deleted the original but as no super powers were necessary, I decided to not deleted my post unless you specifically requested it.

That is handy to know Baz (the GONG_One).
Np with your response; although the mind did dwell on who is xxx (the extra adjective you introduced).

starter

ursogr8
18-01-2005, 12:08 PM
Starter, may i be so bold as to suggest, that it is not ChessVictoria that runs the show in Victoria. It is the clubs themselves that run chess. All ChessVictoria needs to do is to facilitate communication between clubs and provide the right framework for the clubs themselves to drive any initiative at a grassroots level.
Centralisation of power in the decision making is not necessary, all that is needed is logical frameworks, good communication and a touch of visionary (not controlling) initiative from ChessVictoria.

It must be remembered that all communication is a two way street, and while it also certainly less then ideal that MCC does not attend ChessVictoria meetings, it is equally less then ideal that nobody from ChessVictoria posts here regularly, nor on that matter do they visit all clubs regularly.

Cheers FG7

Nicely put fg7






I think on the other thread you created recently you said ' good ideas need a resource to carry them through'...something to that effect.
Applies on this INTERCLUB idea too.

starter