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firegoat7
28-12-2004, 11:52 AM
9 round swiss
Begins Monday the 31st of January to Monday the 11th April, no play 14th or 28th of March
Time control; 90 minutes and 60 seconds a move
All rounds at 7.pm
Entries close Monday 31st January at 6pm
Entry fee: $65 working, $55 concession, all player must be MCC members.
Where: MCC- 66 Leicester st Fitzroy

firegoat7
06-01-2005, 10:26 PM
Hello,


I mucked up the information on the initial page, it should read -no play 14/3 and 28/3 , not April.

Cheers Fg7

Rincewind
06-01-2005, 10:42 PM
I mucked up the information on the initial page, it should read -no play 14/3 and 28/3 , not April.

Fixed.

firegoat7
11-01-2005, 09:58 PM
Thank you Barry

firegoat7
24-01-2005, 12:53 PM
A message to any Victorian

Any Victorian player who is thinking of playing in the Melbourne Club Championship, but needs an adjournment for the first two rounds, because of the New Zealand Zonal tournament, needs to contact the club and talk to Greg Gatto to arrange this possibility.

Cheers FG7

bobby1972
01-02-2005, 10:10 AM
3 IM`s playing, entries still open till monday 7th, VERY STRONG.

firegoat7
01-02-2005, 10:16 PM
Hi,

There are at least 11 players entering in round 2, so it is not to late to enter.
What about you and Dragicevic, AP. Where are the MCC up and comers?

cheers FG7

firegoat7
01-02-2005, 10:18 PM
Hi,

Basically you possibly have a 6:1 chance of playing an IM in the first round.

Cheers FG7

Bereaved
02-02-2005, 01:01 AM
sounds like the same time controls as Buller; is this normal at MCC as some of us have to work early in the day?

bobby1972
02-02-2005, 11:02 AM
yes same

firegoat7
10-02-2005, 11:55 AM
Lost,

One Bobby 1972, if found please return to Melbourne Chess Club.

Reward offered.

DoroPhil
13-02-2005, 05:40 PM
So, how's this tournament going? Entrants, results, games?

Bereaved
04-03-2005, 09:05 PM
Melbourne Chess club Championships 2005
Standings after Round 5
1 West, Guy VIC 2364 5
2-5 Froehlich, Peter VIC 2386 4
Pyke, Malcolm L VIC 1941 4
Krstic, Slobodan VIC 1974 4
Rujevic, Mirko VIC 2291 4
6-7 Ly, Thai VIC 1825 3.5
Wyss, Felix VIC 1793 3.5
8-14 Jensen, Kai VIC 2049 3
McCart, Richard VIC 1769 3
Papadinis, Jim VIC 1809 3
McBride, Kelvin VIC 1923 3
Kara, Barbaros VIC 1748 3
Soco, Dejan VIC 1561 3
Kaplan, Alex VIC 1653 3
15-19 Lin, Zhigen Wilson VIC 1819 2.5
Nour, James VIC 1336 2.5
Wertheim, Stephen VIC 1583 2.5
Fulgenzi, Celestino VIC 2045 2.5
Ghobrial, Adel VIC 1659 2.5
20-27 Beattie, Roger VIC 1769 2
Kalisch, Thomas VIC 1876 2
Knox, Alec VIC 1522 2
Kovacevic, Paul VIC 1771 2
Roberts, Mark S VIC 1785 2
Yap, Aylwin VIC 1247 2
Beckman, John VIC 1576 2
Ivanov, Nikola VIC 1430 2
28-29 Stewart, Scott VIC 1730 1.5
Brooking, Robert VIC 1502 1.5
30-31 Ogada-Osir, Charles 1
Renzies, Elliott VIC 1431 1
32-34 Lovegrove, Adam VIC 1485 0.5
Zivkovic, Sam VIC 1393 0.5
Arkins, Damien NSW 1435 0.5

Bereaved
04-03-2005, 09:09 PM
1 Guy West 2364 [5] : Slobodan Krstic 1974 [4]
2 Peter Froehlich 2386 [4] : Mirko Rujevic 2291 [4]
3 Felix Wyss 1793 [3.5] : Malcolm L Pyke 1941 [4]
4 Kelvin McBride 1923 [3] : Thai Ly 1825 [3.5]
5 Dejan Soco 1561 [3] : Kai Jensen 2049 [3]
6 Barbaros Kara 1748 [3] : Jim Papadinis 1809 [3]
7 Richard McCart 1769 [3] : Alex Kaplan 1653 [3]
8 Adel Ghobrial 1659 [2.5] : Celestino Fulgenzi 2045 [2.5]
9 James Nour 1336 [2.5] : Zhigen Wilson Lin 1819 [2.5]
10 Stephen Wertheim 1583 [2.5] : Thomas Kalisch 1876 [2]
11 Aylwin Yap 1247 [2] : Mark S Roberts 1785 [2]
12 Paul Kovacevic 1771 [2] : Alec Knox 1522 [2]
13 Nikola Ivanov 1430 [2] : Roger Beattie 1769 [2]
14 Adam Lovegrove 1485 [.5] : John Beckman 1576 [2]
15 Scott Stewart 1730 [1.5] : Sam Zivkovic 1393 [.5]
16 Elliott Renzies 1431 [1] : Charles Ogada-Osir [1]

Bereaved
20-03-2005, 10:53 PM
Melbourne Chess Club Championships Standings after 6 Rounds

1 West, Guy VIC 2364 6
2-4 Froehlich, Peter VIC 2386 4.5
Pyke, Malcolm L VIC 1941 4.5
Rujevic, Mirko VIC 2291 4.5
5-9 Krstic, Slobodan VIC 1974 4
McCart, Richard VIC 1769 4
Ly, Thai VIC 1825 4
Wyss, Felix VIC 1793 4
Kara, Barbaros VIC 1748 4
10-14 Jensen, Kai VIC 2049 3.5
Nour, James VIC 1336 3.5
Soco, Dejan VIC 1561 3.5
McBride, Kelvin VIC 1923 3.5
Ghobrial, Adel VIC 1659 3.5
15-21 Papadinis, Jim VIC 1809 3
Roberts, Mark S VIC 1785 3
Kalisch, Thomas VIC 1876 3
Kovacevic, Paul VIC 1771 3
Beckman, John VIC 1576 3
Kaplan, Alex VIC 1653 3
Ivanov, Nikola VIC 1430 3
22-25 Lin, Zhigen Wilson VIC 1819 2.5
Fulgenzi, Celestino VIC 2045 2.5
Wertheim, Stephen VIC 1583 2.5
Yap, Aylwin VIC 1247 2.5
26-27 Beattie, Roger VIC 1769 2
Knox, Alec VIC 1522 2
28-30 Stewart, Scott VIC 1730 1.5
Lovegrove, Adam VIC 1485 1.5
Brooking, Robert VIC 1502 1.5
31-33 Ogada-Osir, Charles 1
Renzies, Elliott VIC 1431 1
Zivkovic, Sam VIC 1393 1
34 Arkins, Damien NSW 1435 0.5

Bereaved
20-03-2005, 10:55 PM
Round 6

1 Guy West 2364 [5] 1:0 Slobodan Krstic 1974 [4]
2 Peter Froehlich 2386 [4] .5:.5 Mirko Rujevic 2291 [4]
3 Felix Wyss 1793 [3.5] .5:.5 Malcolm L Pyke 1941 [4]
4 Kelvin McBride 1923 [3] .5:.5 Thai Ly 1825 [3.5]
5 Dejan Soco 1561 [3] .5:.5 Kai Jensen 2049 [3]
6 Barbaros Kara 1748 [3] 1:0 Jim Papadinis 1809 [3]
7 Richard McCart 1769 [3] 1:0 Alex Kaplan 1653 [3]
8 Adel Ghobrial 1659 [2.5] 1:0 Celestino Fulgenzi 2045 [2.5]
9 James Nour 1336 [2.5] 1:0 Zhigen Wilson Lin 1819 [2.5]
10 Stephen Wertheim 1583 [2.5] 0:1 Thomas Kalisch 1876 [2]
11 Paul Kovacevic 1771 [2] 1:0 Alec Knox 1522 [2]
12 Nikola Ivanov 1430 [2] 1:0 Roger Beattie 1769 [2]
13 Scott Stewart 1730 [1.5] 0:1 Mark S Roberts 1785 [2]
14 Elliott Renzies 1431 [1] 0:1 John Beckman 1576 [2]
15 Aylwin Yap 1247 [2] .5:.5 Sam Zivkovic 1393 [.5]
16 Adam Lovegrove 1485 [.5] 1:0 Charles Ogada-Osir [1]

Bereaved
20-03-2005, 10:57 PM
Round 7

1 Mirko Rujevic 2291 [4.5] : Guy West 2364 [6]
2 Malcolm L Pyke 1941 [4.5] : Peter Froehlich 2386 [4.5]
3 Slobodan Krstic 1974 [4] : Felix Wyss 1793 [4]
4 Thai Ly 1825 [4] : Richard McCart 1769 [4]
5 Barbaros Kara 1748 [4] : Adel Ghobrial 1659 [3.5]
6 Kai Jensen 2049 [3.5] : James Nour 1336 [3.5]
7 Dejan Soco 1561 [3.5] : Kelvin McBride 1923 [3.5]
8 Thomas Kalisch 1876 [3] : Nikola Ivanov 1430 [3]
9 Mark S Roberts 1785 [3] : Alex Kaplan 1653 [3]
10 John Beckman 1576 [3] : Paul Kovacevic 1771 [3]
11 Jim Papadinis 1809 [3] : Stephen Wertheim 1583 [2.5]
12 Celestino Fulgenzi 2045 [2.5] : Aylwin Yap 1247 [2.5]
13 Alec Knox 1522 [2] : Zhigen Wilson Lin 1819 [2.5]
14 Roger Beattie 1769 [2] : Scott Stewart 1730 [1.5]
15 Elliott Renzies 1431 [1] : Adam Lovegrove 1485 [1.5]
16 Sam Zivkovic 1393 [1] : Charles Ogada-Osir [1]

firegoat7
21-03-2005, 12:47 AM
Hello,

Go Dejan Soco!

cheers Fg7

firegoat7
21-03-2005, 12:49 AM
Hello,

Go Aylwin....

cheers Fg7

Garvinator
21-03-2005, 12:56 AM
Hello fg7,

Having a look at the field for the mcc championship, I notice that there are no players under 1300, how come? Do you not cater for this playing group, or is it just that you have a separate tournament afterwards for them?

Can you please help me out with an explaination? :)

Recherché
21-03-2005, 10:14 AM
I think the main thing preventing weaker players from playing at MCC is the cost. Membership there is expensive relative to other clubs, and so is tournament entry. Weaker players tend to be less "serious" about their chess, and hence less willing to spend money on it. Also they tend not to win it back in prizes, or have reasonable expectations of doing so.

Also I suspect the lack of weak players at MCC is self-perpetuating - the fact there aren't really any playing there discourages them from playing, because there's nobody of similar standard. So however it started, once it happens it just stays that way.

Of course, it's arguable whether the absence of weak players is a good or a bad thing. Personally I like the broad mix of players found at Box Hill, but I'm sure lots of MCC members think it's great the club is "top heavy".

Garvinator
21-03-2005, 04:55 PM
Of course, it's arguable whether the absence of weak players is a good or a bad thing. Personally I like the broad mix of players found at Box Hill, but I'm sure lots of MCC members think it's great the club is "top heavy".
mcc can still have the top players playing each other regularly. All they would need to do is run their tournaments in COMPLETELY separate divisions ie no intermingling like Box Hill.

I would have thought more membership and hence more cash coming in is better :)

firegoat7
22-03-2005, 12:52 AM
Hi GG,

Its a highly competitive environment with people always analyising their games for the crowd and lots of blitz. Since it is open 7 days people just don't stay U1400 for very long.

cheers Fg7

Rincewind
22-03-2005, 06:41 AM
Its a highly competitive environment with people always analyising their games for the crowd and lots of blitz. Since it is open 7 days people just don't stay U1400 for very long.

Or rewording slightly:

Its a highly competitive environment ... people U1400 just don't stay for very long.

;)

ursogr8
22-03-2005, 08:36 AM
Hi GG,

Its a highly competitive environment with people always analyising their games for the crowd and lots of blitz. Since it is open 7 days people just don't stay U1400 for very long.

cheers Fg7

fg7

That explains everything. We wondered where our rating points pool was leaking to. :confused:

starter

firegoat7
22-03-2005, 08:09 PM
I think the main thing preventing weaker players from playing at MCC is the cost. Membership there is expensive relative to other clubs, and so is tournament entry. Weaker players tend to be less "serious" about their chess, and hence less willing to spend money on it. Also they tend not to win it back in prizes, or have reasonable expectations of doing so.



Hohum,

It boils down to my responsibility to answer this post on behalf of MCC so I will give it a shot.

Cost may or maybe not an issue. I don't really understand why it would be an issue to weaker players as opposed to stronger players. Maybe you could clarify that point for me Recherche.

It may be an issue for a part timer who can get chess elsewhere, but statistically I don't really believe that is the case. MCC has its fair share of players who play one night a week just like most clubs.

The higher price is reflected in different services. We are open 7 days for chess, other clubs are not, therefore if measured on a daily basis you would probably find that MCCs membership is actually quite cheap. Our aim is to get tournament chess played at the club 7 days a week, so that we can increase that value for our members. If you have any suggestions on how to do that they would be most appreciated.

One phenomenea that is quite unusual at MCC is that we have a number of players who join the club and never play tournament chess. Some play tournament chess only after a long learning phase with blitz. Over the years we have had some really strong players develop this way. Greg Hjorth played everyday for two years, Pateras is another example, Beranjia,Vlahov, Ogada-Osir, Kolak etc . Moreover, at our club we have players who will never play tournament chess like Gatto or Kocur that can be found their everyday. Strangers are often suprised when a so called "bunny" cleans them up at skittles and says to them, "Im unrated".

I believe however that the internet is destroying this culture to some extent. Now chessplayers can play everyday at home. Probably one of the main problems addressing MCC is "how do we offer a service that will entice these players into MCC?".

By the way Recherche, I do not believe weaker players are less serious about their chess. I think most chessplayers are very passionate about the game. In fact I believe that when you get stronger at chess, you lose some of this passion. Weaker players are blessed in that every game is a challenge, for stronger players this is not always the case in Australian chess.

I think the weaker player money prizemoney arguement is a furphie. Weaker players by my definition get more out of a game since if they lose to a stronger player they are really getting a lesson on how to play the game. Strong players on the other hand, get very little out of demolishing a weaky in under 20 moves. This is why I think Box Hill are quite correct in splitting up their fields in a tournament, although I will say its not the way we run our tournaments at MCC.

cheers Fg7

firegoat7
22-03-2005, 08:12 PM
Hello,

By the way IM Guy West is 1.5 points ahead of the field heading into the 8th round. He had his first draw after IM Mirko Rujevic was able to hold a rook ending (the infamous f and h pawns) 2 pawns down.

Cheers Fg7
P.S I went in their to watch and got suitably cleaned up at blitz by Speck and Hyslop.

Bereaved
25-03-2005, 11:36 PM
Results Round 7 MCC Championships

1 Mirko Rujevic 2291 [4.5] .5:.5 Guy West 2364 [6]
2 Malcolm L Pyke 1941 [4.5] .5:.5 Peter Froehlich 2386 [4.5]
3 Slobodan Krstic 1974 [4] 1:0 Felix Wyss 1793 [4]
4 Thai Ly 1825 [4] 1:0 Richard McCart 1769 [4]
5 Barbaros Kara 1748 [4] 1:0 Adel Ghobrial 1659 [3.5]
6 Kai Jensen 2049 [3.5] 1:0 James Nour 1336 [3.5]
7 Dejan Soco 1561 [3.5] 0:1 Kelvin McBride 1923 [3.5]
8 Thomas Kalisch 1876 [3] 1:0 Nikola Ivanov 1430 [3]
9 Mark S Roberts 1785 [3] 1:0 Alex Kaplan 1653 [3]
10 John Beckman 1576 [3] 0:1 Paul Kovacevic 1771 [3]
11 Jim Papadinis 1809 [3] 1:0 Stephen Wertheim 1583 [2.5]
12 Celestino Fulgenzi 2045 [2] 1:0 Aylwin Yap 1247 [2.5]
13 Alec Knox 1522 [2] -:+ Zhigen Wilson Lin 1819 [2.5]
14 Roger Beattie 1769 [2] P:P Scott Stewart 1730 [2]
15 Elliott Renzies 1431 [1] 0:1 Adam Lovegrove 1485 [1.5]
16 Sam Zivkovic 1393 [1] +:- Charles Ogada-Osir [1]

Bereaved
25-03-2005, 11:39 PM
Round 8 pairings for 04\04\05

1 Guy West 2364 [6.5] : Thai Ly 1825 [5]
2 Peter Froehlich 2386 [5] : Barbaros Kara 1748 [5]
3 Malcolm L Pyke 1941 [5] : Slobodan Krstic 1974 [5]
4 Kai Jensen 2049 [4.5] : Mirko Rujevic 2291 [5]
5 Kelvin McBride 1923 [4.5] : Jim Papadinis 1809 [4]
6 Paul Kovacevic 1771 [4] : Thomas Kalisch 1876 [4]
7 Felix Wyss 1793 [4] : Mark S Roberts 1785 [4]
8 Richard McCart 1769 [4] : Zhigen Wilson Lin 1819 [3.5]
9 Adel Ghobrial 1659 [3.5] : Dejan Soco 1561 [3.5]
10 Alex Kaplan 1653 [3] : James Nour 1336 [3.5]
11 John Beckman 1576 [3] : Celestino Fulgenzi 2045 [3]
12 Scott Stewart 1730 [2] : Nikola Ivanov 1430 [3]
13 Adam Lovegrove 1485 [2.5] : Roger Beattie 1769 [2]
14 Stephen Wertheim 1583 [2.5] : Aylwin Yap 1247 [2.5]
15 Sam Zivkovic 1393 [2] : Alec Knox 1522 [2]
16 Charles Ogada-Osir [1] : Elliott Renzies 1431 [1]

Bereaved
26-03-2005, 12:23 AM
Standings after 7 Rounds

1 West, Guy VIC 2364 6.5
2-7 Froehlich, Peter VIC 2386 5
Rujevic, Mirko VIC 2291 5
Pyke, Malcolm L VIC 1941 5
Krstic, Slobodan VIC 1974 5
Ly, Thai VIC 1825 5
Kara, Barbaros VIC 1748 5
8-9 Jensen, Kai VIC 2049 4.5
McBride, Kelvin VIC 1923 4.5
10-15 McCart, Richard VIC 1769 4
Wyss, Felix VIC 1793 4
Papadinis, Jim VIC 1809 4
Roberts, Mark S VIC 1785 4
Kovacevic, Paul VIC 1771 4
Kalisch, Thomas VIC 1876 4
16-19 Soco, Dejan VIC 1561 3.5
Nour, James VIC 1336 3.5
Lin, Zhigen Wilson VIC 1819 3.5
Ghobrial, Adel VIC 1659 3.5
20-23 Beckman, John VIC 1576 3
Fulgenzi, Celestino VIC 2045 3
Kaplan, Alex VIC 1653 3
Ivanov, Nikola VIC 1430 3
24-26 Wertheim, Stephen VIC 1583 2.5
Yap, Aylwin VIC 1247 2.5
Lovegrove, Adam VIC 1485 2.5
27-30 Beattie, Roger VIC 1769 2
Knox, Alec VIC 1522 2
Stewart, Scott VIC 1730 2
Zivkovic, Sam VIC 1393 2
31 Brooking, Robert VIC 1502 1.5
32-33 Renzies, Elliott VIC 1431 1
Ogada-Osir, Charles 1
34 Arkins, Damien NSW 1435 0.5

Bereaved
11-04-2005, 12:01 AM
Round 8 results

1 Guy West 2364 [6.5] .5:.5 Thai Ly 1825 [5]
2 Peter Froehlich 2386 [5] 1:0 Barbaros Kara 1748 [5]
3 Malcolm L Pyke 1941 [5] 1:0 Slobodan Krstic 1974 [5]
4 Kai Jensen 2049 [4.5] 1:0 Mirko Rujevic 2291 [5]
5 Kelvin McBride 1923 [4.5] 1:0 Jim Papadinis 1809 [4]
6 Paul Kovacevic 1771 [4] 0:1 Thomas Kalisch 1876 [4]
7 Felix Wyss 1793 [4] 1:0 Mark S Roberts 1785 [4]
8 Richard McCart 1769 [4] 0:1 Zhigen Wilson Lin 1819 [3.5]
9 Adel Ghobrial 1659 [3.5] 0:1 Dejan Soco 1561 [3.5]
10 Alex Kaplan 1653 [3] 1:0 James Nour 1336 [3.5]
11 John Beckman 1576 [3] 0:1 Celestino Fulgenzi 2045 [3]
12 Scott Stewart 1730 [2.5] 0:1 Nikola Ivanov 1430 [3]
13 Adam Lovegrove 1485 [2.5] : Roger Beattie 1769 [2.5]
14 Stephen Wertheim 1583 [2.5] 1:0 Aylwin Yap 1247 [2.5]
15 Sam Zivkovic 1393 [2] 1:0 Alec Knox 1522 [2]
16 Charles Ogada-Osir [1] -:+ Elliott Renzies 1431 [1]

Bereaved
11-04-2005, 12:02 AM
Pairings Round 9 (Final round )

1 Guy West 2364 [7] : Kai Jensen 2049 [5.5]
2 Thai Ly 1825 [5.5] : Peter Froehlich 2386 [6]
3 Kelvin McBride 1923 [5.5] : Malcolm L Pyke 1941 [6]
4 Mirko Rujevic 2291 [5] : Felix Wyss 1793 [5]
5 Thomas Kalisch 1876 [5] : Slobodan Krstic 1974 [5]
6 Dejan Soco 1561 [4.5] : Barbaros Kara 1748 [5]
7 Zhigen Wilson Lin 1819 [4.5] : Mark S Roberts 1785 [4]
8 Celestino Fulgenzi 2045 [4] : Alex Kaplan 1653 [4]
9 Jim Papadinis 1809 [4] : Richard McCart 1769 [4]
10 Nikola Ivanov 1430 [4] : Paul Kovacevic 1771 [4]
11 Roger Beattie 1769 [2.5] : Stephen Wertheim 1583 [3.5]
12 James Nour 1336 [3.5] : Adel Ghobrial 1659 [3.5]
13 Sam Zivkovic 1393 [3] : John Beckman 1576 [3]
14 Aylwin Yap 1247 [2.5] : Adam Lovegrove 1485 [2.5]
15 Alec Knox 1522 [2] : Scott Stewart 1730 [2.5]
16 Charles Ogada-Osir [1] : Elliott Renzies 1431 [2]

Bereaved
11-04-2005, 12:03 AM
Standings after 8 rounds

1 West, Guy VIC 2364 7
2-3 Froehlich, Peter VIC 2386 6
Pyke, Malcolm L VIC 1941 6
4-6 Jensen, Kai VIC 2049 5.5
Ly, Thai VIC 1825 5.5
McBride, Kelvin VIC 1923 5.5
7-11 Rujevic, Mirko VIC 2291 5
Krstic, Slobodan VIC 1974 5
Wyss, Felix VIC 1793 5
Kara, Barbaros VIC 1748 5
Kalisch, Thomas VIC 1876 5
12-13 Soco, Dejan VIC 1561 4.5
Lin, Zhigen Wilson VIC 1819 4.5
14-20 McCart, Richard VIC 1769 4
Papadinis, Jim VIC 1809 4
Roberts, Mark S VIC 1785 4
Kovacevic, Paul VIC 1771 4
Kaplan, Alex VIC 1653 4
Fulgenzi, Celestino VIC 2045 4
Ivanov, Nikola VIC 1430 4
21-23 Nour, James VIC 1336 3.5
Ghobrial, Adel VIC 1659 3.5
Wertheim, Stephen VIC 1583 3.5
24-25 Beckman, John VIC 1576 3
Zivkovic, Sam VIC 1393 3
26-29 Beattie, Roger VIC 1769 2.5
Yap, Aylwin VIC 1247 2.5
Stewart, Scott VIC 1730 2.5
Lovegrove, Adam VIC 1485 2.5
30-31 Knox, Alec VIC 1522 2
Renzies, Elliott VIC 1431 2
32 Brooking, Robert VIC 1502 1.5
33 Ogada-Osir, Charles 1
34 Arkins, Damien NSW 1435 0.5

HappyFriend
11-04-2005, 12:23 PM
Yes Firegoat/goat/Jackass NEVER neglect to mention you played Nick Speck in blitz.
After brown -nosing Speck for years (for some reason) you must milk it for all its worth right? LOL Also your comments about the Melbourne Chess Club are way innaccurate. Stop talking on behalf of chessplayers who think your a Jackass. Do they know you post?

Garvinator
11-04-2005, 04:03 PM
Hello macavity,

Can you please post a complete cross table from this tournament. I cant find a link to show the complete results for each round.

Bereaved
12-04-2005, 02:14 AM
GG, when I tried to post the crosstable when I first entered this thread, it came out as screen garbage. Do you have a hint for how to post it effectively?
Incidentally last round was tonight, 1st Guy West 8/9, =2nd Peter Froehlich, Malcolm Pyke 7/9

Garvinator
12-04-2005, 02:24 AM
GG, when I tried to post the crosstable when I first entered this thread, it came out as screen garbage. Do you have a hint for how to post it effectively?
Incidentally last round was tonight, 1st Guy West 8/9, =2nd Peter Froehlich, Malcolm Pyke 7/9
will you be putting the cross table up from swiss perfect or from a website, if its from a website, can i just have the address?

firegoat7
12-04-2005, 02:34 AM
Hello,

West won what a champ!
Pykey had a big tournament (seems rigging the pairing really paid off ;) )
Thai Ly played really well, a top result against a strong field :clap:
BK -what a tourney!
James Nour the guy is a talent, piano and chess!!
Dejan Soco the mans a living legend, great championship!

Cheers Fg7

Bereaved
12-04-2005, 02:37 AM
GG, From swiss perfect,
Suggestions?
Macavity VP

Rincewind
12-04-2005, 09:06 AM
GG, From swiss perfect,
Suggestions?
Macavity VP

Wrap the output in CODE tags (the button at the top of the reply editor that looks like a #) and turn smilies off with the check button at the bottom of the reply editor. If you still have problems post the garbage and I or some other moderator will see if we can fix it.

ursogr8
12-04-2005, 09:13 AM
Congratulations to the Melbourne Chess Club on a well fought Championship.
Would it be possible to post a list of past winners so that we can see the pantheon of really good players who have won this event.

starter

Bereaved
13-04-2005, 12:56 PM
Dear All, here are the final standings. If they require adjustment, please feel free to do so Rincewind,
Macavity VP


No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

1. Froehlich, Peter VIC 2386 7 9:W 8:W 6:W 4:W 2:L 3:D 7:D 18:W 10:W
2. West, Guy VIC 2364 8 23:W 12:W 17:W 7:W 1:W 6:W 3:D 10:D 4:W
3. Rujevic, Mirko VIC 2291 6 11:W 14:W 7:L 10:W 8:W 1:D 2:D 4:L 13:W
4. Jensen, Kai VIC 2049 5.5 13:W 15:W 18:W 1:L 7:L 24:D 32:W 3:W 2:L
5. Fulgenzi, Celestino VIC 2045 5 17:L 19:D 22:D 15:W 13:L 20:L 33:W 23:W 21:W
6. Krstic, Slobodan VIC 1974 6 24:W 16:W 1:L 17:W 18:W 2:L 13:W 7:L 9:W
7. Pyke, Malcolm L VIC 1941 7 26:W 22:W 3:W 2:L 4:W 13:D 1:D 6:W 8:W
8. McBride, Kelvin VIC 1923 5.5 27:W 1:L 19:W 16:W 3:L 10:D 24:W 12:W 7:L
9. Kalisch, Thomas VIC 1876 5 1:L 10:L 33:W 24:L 29:W 22:W 30:W 15:W 6:L
10. Ly, Thai VIC 1825 5.5 28:D 9:W 12:W 3:L 20:W 8:D 17:W 2:D 1:L
11. Lin, Zhigen Wilson VIC 1819 5.5 3:L 28:W 23:W 18:L 22:D 32:L 25:+ 17:W 14:W
12. Papadinis, Jim VIC 1809 4 29:W 2:L 10:L 25:+ 23:W 18:L 22:W 8:L 17:
13. Wyss, Felix VIC 1793 5 4:L 27:W 20:W 32:D 5:W 7:D 6:L 14:W 3:L
14. Roberts, Mark S VIC 1785 4 30:W 3:L 32:L 26:D 15:D 19:W 21:W 13:L 11:L
15. Kovacevic, Paul VIC 1771 5 31:W 4:L 21:D 5:L 14:D 25:W 23:W 9:L 30:W
16. Beattie, Roger VIC 1769 4.5 32:W 6:L 26:W 8:L 24:L 30:L 19:D 27:+ 22:W
17. McCart, Richard VIC 1769 4 5:W 29:W 2:L 6:L 32:W 21:W 10:L 11:L 12:
18. Kara, Barbaros VIC 1748 6 33:W 25:W 4:L 11:W 6:L 12:W 20:W 1:L 24:W
19. Stewart, Scott VIC 1730 3.5 20:D 5:D 8:L 29:W 21:L 14:L 16:D 30:L 25:W
20. Ghobrial, Adel VIC 1659 3.5 19:D 30:W 13:L 34:+ 10:L 5:W 18:L 24:L 32:L
21. Kaplan, Alex VIC 1653 4 25:L 31:W 15:D 22:D 19:W 17:L 14:L 32:W 5:L
22. Wertheim, Stephen VIC 1583 3.5 34:W 7:L 5:D 21:D 11:D 9:L 12:L 33:W 16:L
23. Beckman, John VIC 1576 3 2:L 33:W 11:L 30:W 12:L 29:W 15:L 5:L 31:
24. Soco, Dejan VIC 1561 4.5 6:L 32:L 25:W 9:W 16:W 4:D 8:L 20:W 18:L
25. Knox, Alec VIC 1522 2 21:W 18:L 24:L 12:- 27:W 15:L 11:- 31:L 19:L
26. Brooking, Robert VIC 1502 1.5 7:L 34:W 16:L 14:D : : : : :
27. Lovegrove, Adam VIC 1485 2.5 8:L 13:L 30:L 31:D 25:L 34:W 29:W 16:- 33:
28. Arkins, Damien NSW 1435 .5 10:D 11:L : : : : : : :
29. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1431 3 12:L 17:L 31:W 19:L 9:L 23:L 27:L 34:+ 34:+
30. Ivanov, Nikola VIC 1430 4 14:L 20:L 27:W 23:L 31:W 16:W 9:L 19:W 15:L
31. Zivkovic, Sam VIC 1393 3 15:L 21:L 29:L 27:D 30:L 33:D 34:+ 25:W 23:
32. Nour, James VIC 1336 4.5 16:L 24:W 14:W 13:D 17:L 11:W 4:L 21:L 20:W
33. Yap, Aylwin VIC 1247 2.5 18:L 23:L 9:L :W 34:W 31:D 5:L 22:L 27:
34. Ogada-Osir, Charles 1 22:L 26:L :W 20:- 33:L 27:L 31:- 29:- 29:-

Bereaved
13-04-2005, 12:58 PM
Starter, I will copy them all down from the honour board next time I am in, or if necessary, can get someone to dictate them to me over the phone should that not be soon enough,
Macavity VP

ursogr8
13-04-2005, 01:06 PM
Starter, I will copy them all down from the honour board next time I am in, or if necessary, can get someone to dictate them to me over the phone should that not be soon enough,
Macavity VP

mac


I really like your gold-leafed honour boards.
If capturing the names to elecronically post here, then inclusion in your new upgraded web-site would also be a plus.

regards
starter

Garvinator
13-04-2005, 01:32 PM
Since happyfriend and his accusations have left, I dont think there is much point in investigating his claims, either to approve or disprove them.

What I have noticed from round one is though is that it was accelerated, but the pairings I have come to from using accelerated sp are different from the round one pairings that the cross table gives.

Did some players arrive late macavity?

Here are my accelerated pairings- 2 round 1 point acceleration for now until i find out what acceleration method was used.


No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Froehlich, Peter 2386 [0] : Kalisch, Thomas 1876 [0]
2 Ly, Thai 1825 [0] : West, Guy 2364 [0]
3 Rujevic, Mirko 2291 [0] : Lin, Zhigen Wilson 1819 [0]
4 Papadinis, Jim 1809 [0] : Jensen, Kai 2049 [0]
5 Fulgenzi, Celestino 2045 [0] : Wyss, Felix 1793 [0]
6 Roberts, Mark S 1785 [0] : Krstic, Slobodan 1974 [0]
7 Pyke, Malcolm L 1941 [0] : Kovacevic, Paul 1771 [0]
8 Beattie, Roger 1769 [0] : Mcbride, Kelvin 1923 [0]
9 Mccart, Richard 1769 [0] : Knox, Alec 1522 [0]
10 Lovegrove, Adam 1485 [0] : Kara, Barbaros 1748 [0]
11 Stewart, Scott 1730 [0] : Renzies, Elliott 1431 [0]
12 Ivanov, Nikola 1430 [0] : Ghobrial, Adel 1659 [0]
13 Kaplan, Alex 1653 [0] : Zivkovic, Sam 1393 [0]
14 Nour, James 1336 [0] : Wertheim, Stephen 1583 [0]
15 Beckman, John 1576 [0] : Yap, Aylwin 1247 [0]
16 Ogada-Osir, Charles [0] : Soco, Dejan 1561 [0]

Bereaved
13-04-2005, 01:37 PM
Dear GG, the tournament was hindered by people playing in NZ. Hence the first round was in effect paired in 2 parts; no acceleration.
all the best, Macavity

Alan Shore
13-04-2005, 01:46 PM
no acceleration.

Thank goodness for that!

WhiteElephant
13-04-2005, 02:11 PM
Congratulations to the Melbourne Chess Club on a well fought Championship.
Would it be possible to post a list of past winners so that we can see the pantheon of really good players who have won this event.

starter

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~chessmel/boards.html

ursogr8
13-04-2005, 02:42 PM
^^

Hey, well done to the Bleached Pachyderm.

This gives a lot more folk the chance to appreciate the MCC Champions Honour Board.

starter

Bereaved
13-04-2005, 03:18 PM
Thai Ly has done a great job in uploading games from the tournament on the site as a chess base file and as text on the site itself. Well Done!
Macavity VP

firegoat7
13-04-2005, 04:40 PM
Dear Starter,

Sorry mate I can resist, Don't you love the ChessVictoria boards being at MCC instead of the Fawkner tip.

Cheers Fg7

Garvinator
13-04-2005, 04:47 PM
Dear Starter,

Sorry mate I can resist, Don't you love the ChessVictoria boards being at MCC instead of the Fawkner tip.

Cheers Fg7
what do you mean cv boards? :uhoh:

Bereaved
13-04-2005, 05:04 PM
GG, some years ago when the then VCA had rented both office space and storage space at MCC, and the arrangement ended they suggested that they wished for nothing of what remained, including the honour boards for the Victorian Championship. We kept them rather than threw them out and as such in the MCC they still hang on the wall. As Firegoat suggested, the rest did end up at the tip
Macavity VP

Garvinator
13-04-2005, 05:10 PM
GG, some years ago when the then VCA had rented both office space and storage space at MCC, and the arrangement ended they suggested that they wished for nothing of what remained, including the honour boards for the Victorian Championship. We kept them rather than threw them out and as such in the MCC they still hang on the wall. As Firegoat suggested, the rest did end up at the tip
Macavity VP
sorry :doh: knowing that mcc does dgt board transmission and fg7 knows how to do it, i was thinking that fg7 was talking about the dgt boards. I was concerned when dgt boards and tips were mentioned ;)

ursogr8
13-04-2005, 05:42 PM
Dear Starter,

Sorry mate I can resist, Don't you love the ChessVictoria boards being at MCC instead of the Fawkner tip.

Cheers Fg7

hi fg7

You can resist, or you can't resist?
Not sure which you meant in you post.

Anyhow, yes, I thought I recognised that as a big plus for the MCC in my report on your 2004 Australia Day OPEN.

We should cherish these Honour Boards, and that is why I was thrilled when George posted the link (earlier today, on this thread) to view yours.

Every now and then these trophies (etc) should be taken out, dusted, admired, and inspiration derived.
When we did this for the AUS. Junior (misprints and all) we ended up with a brand new trophy, courtesy of Bill's efforts. :clap:

regards
starter

ps.........On behalf of..........well me I suppose, .....thanks for looking after some CV Honour boards. :clap:

firegoat7
13-04-2005, 06:12 PM
LOL- oops can't

firegoat7
20-07-2005, 09:41 PM
For those who may be interested.

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~chessmel/mcc20051.html

As Bill pointed before,check out some lovely commentary by Thai.

Cheers

Fg7