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Kevin Bonham
12-01-2018, 10:00 PM
Incidentally the leading scores were also 10 and 9 in 2010 (Zhao and Xie) but in that case the chasing pack was much further behind. I've found a comment that Johansen also scored 10 at least once - when was that - and suggesting that 10/11 is the equal record - is that definitely correct?

jammo
12-01-2018, 10:09 PM
Incidentally the leading scores were also 10 and 9 in 2010 (Zhao and Xie) but in that case the chasing pack was much further behind. I've found a comment that Johansen also scored 10 at least once - when was that - and suggesting that 10/11 is the equal record - is that definitely correct?

Steiner won every game in 1936/7.

Kevin Bonham
12-01-2018, 10:19 PM
Steiner won every game in 1936/7.

Thankyou. It appears from ozbase that it was a 13-player round robin and Steiner scored 12/12.

Ian_Rogers
13-01-2018, 06:20 AM
Steiner won every game in 1936/7.

Steiner was not an Australian player in 1936/7 and played as a guest.

10/11 is a record since the Championship moved to being an 11 round tournament.

jammo
13-01-2018, 06:43 AM
Steiner was not an Australian player in 1936/7 and played as a guest.

10/11 is a record since the Championship moved to being an 11 round tournament.

Correct. The type of “record” being claimed was not specified.

Kevin Bonham
13-01-2018, 10:37 AM
Correct. The type of “record” being claimed was not specified.

Yes, the 2010 Aus Champs site simply said it was "record-equalling" and discussion here at the time made similar claims without stating exactly what the record was.

At the time Peter Parr wrote:


A superb effort indeed but no record.

A number of players have scored higher percentages in the Australian

Championships including a person who was at the Australian Championships at Norths in 2010!

Trivia Q
Who was it?
When was it?
What was the score?

No further information was provided.

I'd be interested to know how many cases there are of the Australian Champion (as opposed to ineligible players such as Steiner in 1936-7) making a score higher in percentage terms than 10/11. Excluding the facetious example of Esling-Gossip of course.

Probably I can just check them all on Ozbase if the full PGNs are there.

Kevin Bonham
13-01-2018, 11:15 AM
In 1888 there were replays of drawn games, so that in theory the equal winners of the initial round robin could have increased their score by winning the replays. However all three replayed games were also drawn on replay. I hope this didn't persist too much longer.

Kevin Bonham
13-01-2018, 11:37 AM
I'll edit in the highest percentages by the winning Champions to this post as I find them.

Cecil Purdy 1934-5 12/13 = 92%
Gary Koshnitsky 1938-9 12.5/13 = 96%
Lajos Steiner 1952-3 8.5/9 = 94%
John Purdy 1954-5 12.5/13 = 96%

Kevin Bonham
13-01-2018, 12:15 PM
Johansen's 10/11 (later matched by Zhao and now Illingworth) was 1989-90. Seems like that was the start of the 11-round events. Excluding Esling-Gossip, 96% is the highest score for an Australian Champion in any era that I was able to find.

(Corrections, additions welcome - there were a few years not in Ozbase)

Banana
15-01-2018, 11:27 AM
Excluding the facetious example of Esling-Gossip of course.

What is being alluded to here, for those of us who are uninformed patzers? These guys played a match for the championship with many replayed games, or something?

Ian Rout
15-01-2018, 12:06 PM
What is being alluded to here, for those of us who are uninformed patzers? These guys played a match for the championship with many replayed games, or something?I think this may explain it:

http://www.melbournechessclub.org/members/history/club-history/chapter-3-better-late-than-never

Adamski
16-01-2018, 09:02 PM
I think this may explain it:

http://www.melbournechessclub.org/members/history/club-history/chapter-3-better-late-than-never

A fascinating tale.