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Brian_Jones
29-11-2004, 01:30 PM
Entry Forms for the 2006 Queenstown Chess Classic are now available.

This event will take place 15-24 January 2006 and is being organised by GM Murray Chandler in co-operation with the New Zealand Chess Federation. It is expected that many overseas players will take the opportunity for a holiday in this part of the world.

The kiwis have already decided to roll the NZ Championships into the Queenstown event. Therefore the first two weeks of January 2006 are free and need a major event in Australia so that overseas players can come downunder to play before crossing the ditch to NZ.

Australia would normally run an Australian Closed Championship in January 2006. But this will not suit the overseas players. We need a big Australian Open in 2006. But the ACF are stuck in this alternate year rut and look like waiting until Easter 2005 before making a decision on where the 2006 Closed Championships will be held.

Will we miss this opportunity? Probably yes unless some entrepreneur walks up to the mat and organises an Australian Open privately. What do players and bulletin board members think?

Garvinator
29-11-2004, 01:36 PM
Entry Forms for the 2006 Queenstown Chess Classic are now available.

This event will take place 15-24 January 2006 and is being organised by GM Murray Chandler in co-operation with the New Zealand Chess Federation. It is expected that many overseas players will take the opportunity for a holiday in this part of the world.

The kiwis have already decided to roll the NZ Championships into the Queenstown event. Therefore the first two weeks of January 2006 are free and need a major event in Australia so that overseas players can come downunder to play before crossing the ditch to NZ.

Australia would normally run an Australian Closed Championship in January 2006. But this will not suit the overseas players. We need a big Australian Open in 2006. But the ACF are stuck in this alternate year rut and look like waiting until Easter 2005 before making a decision on where the 2006 Closed Championships will be held.

Will we miss this opportunity? Probably yes unless some entrepreneur walks up to the mat and organises an Australian Open privately. What do players and bulletin board members think?

you seem to forget that we might have the mercure sponsorship deal for the next five years. Also we could still have a combined deal maybe with nz in 2007. there are many plans and possibilities for the future.

I do support not making any possible binding decisions before the current mt buller events are finished. It would do more damage to rush into a decision than to take a bit of time.

Entry forms might be out, but i doubt that they will really be securing detailed plans with overseas players for quite a while.

Trent Parker
29-11-2004, 01:44 PM
you seem to forget that we might have the mercure sponsorship deal for the next five years. Also we could still have a combined deal maybe with nz in 2007. there are many plans and possibilities for the future.

I do support not making any possible binding decisions before the current mt buller events are finished. It would do more damage to rush into a decision than to take a bit of time.

Entry forms might be out, but i doubt that they will really be securing detailed plans with overseas players for quite a while.

2006 Mecure Australian Open....... sounds good to me!

Garvinator
29-11-2004, 01:45 PM
2006 Mecure Australian Open....... sounds good to me!
that will be up to the national conference and acf council.

arosar
29-11-2004, 01:46 PM
Thanks for the info Brian. Your mate, Mr Parr, handed me a very nice brochure on this. I think that this event will definitely be very big one.

Check out: www.queenstownchess.com

AR

Trent Parker
29-11-2004, 01:49 PM
you seem to forget that we might have the mercure sponsorship deal for the next five years. Also we could still have a combined deal maybe with nz in 2007. there are many plans and possibilities for the future.

I do support not making any possible binding decisions before the current mt buller events are finished. It would do more damage to rush into a decision than to take a bit of time.

Entry forms might be out, but i doubt that they will really be securing detailed plans with overseas players for quite a while.

But aren't bids for the Open/closed supposed to be in 18months before the event?

Garvinator
29-11-2004, 02:02 PM
But aren't bids for the Open/closed supposed to be in 18months before the event?
when was the last time that happened ;) ;)

Trent Parker
29-11-2004, 03:05 PM
when was the last time that happened ;) ;)

But isn't that what is supposed to happen?

Garvinator
29-11-2004, 05:44 PM
But isn't that what is supposed to happen?
if everything that was supposed to happen, did happen, we would be much better off, generally :lol:

PHAT
29-11-2004, 07:57 PM
if everything that was supposed to happen, did happen, we would be much better off, generally :lol:

Wouldn't it be a clockwork universe with no surprises? Sounds pretty dull.

Rincewind
29-11-2004, 08:00 PM
Wouldn't it be a clockwork universe with no surprises? Sounds pretty dull.

That depends on whether it is chaotic, deterministic or pre-ordained. ;)

Oepty
02-12-2004, 07:18 PM
We could try and get them to play in Australia after the Queenstown tournament. Perhaps the ACF could get together with the Australian Masters organisers and them to move to the end of January, with a reserves tournament as well. If we can encourage a couple of GM's to play then there might even be a IM/GM norm available to some of Australia young University attending players who might be more available at this time of the year

Paul S
27-12-2004, 03:33 PM
Entry Forms for the 2006 Queenstown Chess Classic are now available.

This event will take place 15-24 January 2006 and is being organised by GM Murray Chandler in co-operation with the New Zealand Chess Federation. It is expected that many overseas players will take the opportunity for a holiday in this part of the world.

The kiwis have already decided to roll the NZ Championships into the Queenstown event. Therefore the first two weeks of January 2006 are free and need a major event in Australia so that overseas players can come downunder to play before crossing the ditch to NZ.

Australia would normally run an Australian Closed Championship in January 2006. But this will not suit the overseas players. We need a big Australian Open in 2006. But the ACF are stuck in this alternate year rut and look like waiting until Easter 2005 before making a decision on where the 2006 Closed Championships will be held.

Will we miss this opportunity? Probably yes unless some entrepreneur walks up to the mat and organises an Australian Open privately. What do players and bulletin board members think?

What Brian says in his post makes a lot of sense to me. I have just had a look at the Queenstown website, and it looks like this Queenstown event will be a big one, with lots of overseas players participatng (and wanting/willing to play a "warm up" comp just before it starts). BTW, if there are going to be any future Mt Bullers, the future Mt Buller organisers should have a look at the Queenstown website and incorporate some of their ideas for future Mt Bullers.

It seems logical to make the Dec 2005/Jan 2006 tournament an Open (and then perhaps go back to the "two year rut" the year after - eg have the Dec 2005/Jan 2006 an Open, the Dec 2006/Jan 2007 a closed, the Dec 2007/Jan 2008 and Open, the Dec 2008/Jan 2009 a closed etc etc). Then again, do we need this Open-Closed-Open-Closed cycle every two years? What do other countries do?

Anyway, lets see what hapens at the upcoming ACF Conference!

arosar
08-05-2005, 09:45 PM
Chessbase report: Lord of the Kings - Queenstown Chess Classic (http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2360)

AR

pax
08-05-2005, 10:14 PM
Anyone know who the chief arbiter will be? I guess Bekker is a possibility since he did the Zonal..

jenni
09-05-2005, 11:04 AM
Anyone know who the chief arbiter will be? I guess Bekker is a possibility since he did the Zonal..

Don't know - Gary and Jashint made a great team at the zonal, so I wouldn't mind if it were them again. You planning to go?

auriga
09-05-2005, 11:14 AM
i hear cathy rogers will be one.
also some strong players from uk supposedly coming.
the photos in the report look good!

pax
09-05-2005, 03:51 PM
Don't know - Gary and Jashint made a great team at the zonal, so I wouldn't mind if it were them again. You planning to go?

Unlikely, what with the small children and all. Might try and get to Brisbane though..

jenni
29-10-2005, 02:53 PM
Amiel Rosario is listed as a participant - Yay we will have photos. :)

Garvinator
29-10-2005, 06:20 PM
Amiel Rosario is listed as a participant - Yay we will have photos. :)
thanks for confirming that i wont be going ;) :owned:

jenni
29-10-2005, 06:23 PM
He's very pleasant in person....

antichrist
29-10-2005, 07:03 PM
thanks for confirming that i wont be going ;) :owned:

I am going to Brissy for that big comp in the New Year - will that guarantee your non-attendance?

Watto
02-11-2005, 10:46 AM
I noticed a couple of days ago that there were 13 females entered for Queenstown (that’s female names I am sure of, I could be missing some). With 120 players entered in total, that’s over 10% - a decent percentage (relatively speaking) and good to see.

Would be great if that percentage continues as the entries climb… :)

Brian_Jones
02-11-2005, 11:05 AM
That's because the event is being held at Queenstown. :)

The next event could be at Kingston. (England, Tasmania or Jamaica?) :hmm:

four four two
02-11-2005, 11:13 AM
So the charms of Mt Buller dont draw the females eh? :hmm:

Rincewind
02-11-2005, 11:26 AM
So the charms of Mt Buller dont draw the females eh? :hmm:

Well Mt Buller did draw (at least) one significant female. The winner!!! :P

Watto
02-11-2005, 11:27 AM
Well Mt Buller did draw (at least) one significant female. The winner!!! :P

Yes, good point. And a few others too.

Rincewind
02-11-2005, 11:37 AM
Yes, good point. And a few others too.

Yes, many other significant females as well.

Watto
02-11-2005, 11:41 AM
So the charms of Mt Buller dont draw the females eh? :hmm:
Buller is pretty (although a little quiet in Summer) but it doesn’t have the excitement of a prestigious international tournament (ie O/S for Australians),doesn’t have hobbits, a beautiful lake, truly spectacular mountains, white water rafting, and, most importantly if Brian's theory is to be believed, there’s nothing female about the name. ;)

jenni
02-11-2005, 01:51 PM
I noticed a couple of days ago that there were 13 females entered for Queenstown (thatís female names I am sure of, I could be missing some). With 120 players entered in total, thatís over 10% - a decent percentage (relatively speaking) and good to see.

Would be great if that percentage continues as the entries climbÖ :)

Hmm - most of the ones I know who are entering who aren't listed are males. Angela Song will be there, but I understand as an observer...

Watto
02-11-2005, 01:59 PM
Hmm - most of the ones I know who are entering who aren't listed are males. Angela Song will be there, but I understand as an observer...
Yes, I don’t expect the percentage to remain that high.

I like to dream. ;)

Denis_Jessop
02-11-2005, 02:02 PM
That's because the event is being held at Queenstown. :)

The next event could be at Kingston. (England, Tasmania or Jamaica?) :hmm:

Or Kingston, ACT? :clap: :rolleyes:

DJ

jenni
02-11-2005, 03:22 PM
Yes, I donít expect the percentage to remain that high.

I like to dream. ;)

We get about 25% girls in our junior comps here, but we do a huge amount of girls deveopment. It drops down to more like 13% at Belco Chess club and I think Canberra CC is an all male domain most of the time.

jenni
02-11-2005, 03:48 PM
Talking of girls when are more going to enter the Brissie events? We have 1 in th Champs, 2 in the major and 1 each in the under 18 and under 12.

I know of at least another 7 girls coming from Canberra, so hopefully there will be a rush before 1 Dec.

Watto
02-11-2005, 08:29 PM
We get about 25% girls in our junior comps here, but we do a huge amount of girls deveopment. It drops down to more like 13% at Belco Chess club and I think Canberra CC is an all male domain most of the time.

I've gathered that you and others do a lot of work in this area which I'm really pleased to hear about. Would be interested in knowing more at some stage.

Now back to the Queenstown thread ... :)

jenni
03-11-2005, 09:59 AM
I've gathered that you and others do a lot of work in this area which I'm really pleased to hear about. Would be interested in knowing more at some stage.

Now back to the Queenstown thread ... :)

I'm well known as a terrible thread drifter - at this point moderator smacks herself on the fingers.

The_Wise_Man
12-12-2005, 03:24 PM
Just looking at the field...

Does the tournament have enough GMs for potential GM norms?

Does one have to play a certain number of GM to qualify?

Sorry for my ignorance...

Wise

pax
12-12-2005, 05:36 PM
Just looking at the field...

Does the tournament have enough GMs for potential GM norms?

Does one have to play a certain number of GM to qualify?

Sorry for my ignorance...

Wise

Only just: you have to play 3 GMs to have a chance to get a norm (there are 4 in Queenstown so far).

More to the point though, you have to get a PR of 2600, which is nearly impossible in a giant Swiss like this. You also have to play at least 50% titled players, which might also be tricky.

The Australian Championships is a much better opportunity for norms due to the high percentage of titled players and the high average rating.

pax
10-01-2006, 09:11 PM
Now that the Aussie Championship is over, it's time to ramp up for this one!

The field assembled is quite impressive, especially with no conditions for titled players. Apart from the 4 GMs, there are an incredible 15 IMs (mind you, only five of those are rated over 2370).

Watto
11-01-2006, 12:42 PM
The field assembled is quite impressive, especially with no conditions for titled players. Apart from the 4 GMs, there are an incredible 15 IMs (mind you, only five of those are rated over 2370).

Yes, there’s a lot of depth … out of 176 confirmed entries, over 80 players are rated over 2000.

arosar
11-01-2006, 12:46 PM
I haven't counted properly but I reckon near 50% are Aussies.

AR

Rincewind
11-01-2006, 05:32 PM
Prior to the rating levy I suspect the ACF rating officer would be tempted to rate an event which so many ACF rated players competing. Now I assume this would only happen if the organisers pay the rating fee. Now, assuming the organisers are not paying the levy, can we classify this as a casualty of economic rationalism?

jenni
11-01-2006, 05:36 PM
Prior to the rating levy I suspect the ACF rating officer would be tempted to rate an event which so many ACF rated players competing. Now I assume this would only happen if the organisers pay the rating fee. Now, assuming the organisers are not paying the levy, can we classify this as a casualty of economic rationalism?

Bill did rate the Auckland Zonal, even though I assume no rating fee was paid.

I did ask him some time ago whether he was planning to rate Queenstown and he said no, but maybe he might change his mind?

The_Wise_Man
11-01-2006, 06:33 PM
Surely you must be kidding to ask for a tournament in another country to be rated under an "Australian Chess Federation Rating system" and ask them to pay for it too...There are FIDE ratings for that...

I can see it know... not happy with FIDE ELO ratings???
try Aussie Bill's Glicko2.... ;)

Seriously if your ACF rating is all you care about then play in Australia....

Wise

arosar
11-01-2006, 06:47 PM
Surely you must be kidding to ask for a tournament in another country to be rated under an "Australian Chess Federation Rating system" and ask them to pay for it too...There are FIDE ratings for that...

I can see it know... not happy with FIDE ELO ratings???
try Aussie Bill's Glicko2.... ;)

Seriously if your ACF rating is all you care about then play in Australia....

Wise

I think it should be possible to rate Aus v Aus games only right?

AR

Rincewind
11-01-2006, 06:56 PM
Surely you must be kidding to ask for a tournament in another country to be rated under an "Australian Chess Federation Rating system" and ask them to pay for it too...There are FIDE ratings for that...

I can see it know... not happy with FIDE ELO ratings???
try Aussie Bill's Glicko2.... ;)

Seriously if your ACF rating is all you care about then play in Australia....

Seriously, perhaps you have a comprehension problem. I wasn't asking.

The_Wise_Man
11-01-2006, 06:56 PM
is it in the ACFs interest to do so. (its not getting being paid for it...)

I think it opens up a can of worms... Say I play in Singapore/Bangkok and there are 5-6 Aussies in the field... if I play those opponents should they be rated???

Is there an official policy statement on the ACF Rating of Tournaments outside its jurisdiction? I know that the zonal was rated but could in itself be questioned.

Wise

The_Wise_Man
11-01-2006, 06:58 PM
Seriously, perhaps you have a comprehension problem. I wasn't asking.


I was replying in response to Jenni's changing his mind comment...

Wise

Garvinator
11-01-2006, 07:00 PM
also on this issue about acf rating overseas tournaments. As has been mentioned here, the last oceania zonal was acf rated even though the nz organisers didnt pay the acf rating fee.

Now lets say the next oceania zonal is held in australia, will the organisers have to pay the acf rating fee to have that tournament acf rated?

Bill Gletsos
11-01-2006, 07:02 PM
I think it should be possible to rate Aus v Aus games only right?No.

Bill Gletsos
11-01-2006, 07:03 PM
Prior to the rating levy I suspect the ACF rating officer would be tempted to rate an event which so many ACF rated players competing. Now I assume this would only happen if the organisers pay the rating fee. Now, assuming the organisers are not paying the levy, can we classify this as a casualty of economic rationalism?If the event is rated it is not subject to any ACF admin fee.

Bill Gletsos
11-01-2006, 07:04 PM
Bill did rate the Auckland Zonal, even though I assume no rating fee was paid.Correct, as was the Oceania Zonal held in Fiji.

I did ask him some time ago whether he was planning to rate Queenstown and he said no, but maybe he might change his mind?You never know. ;)

Bill Gletsos
11-01-2006, 07:06 PM
also on this issue about acf rating overseas tournaments. As has been mentioned here, the last oceania zonal was acf rated even though the nz organisers didnt pay the acf rating fee.

Now lets say the next oceania zonal is held in australia, will the organisers have to pay the acf rating fee to have that tournament acf rated?Yes.

The_Wise_Man
11-01-2006, 07:09 PM
the non-Aussie/Kiwi entrants (apart from Chandler)...

do you see any of them winning it?

Wise

Bill Gletsos
11-01-2006, 07:10 PM
is it in the ACFs interest to do so. (its not getting being paid for it...)

I think it opens up a can of worms... Say I play in Singapore/Bangkok and there are 5-6 Aussies in the field... if I play those opponents should they be rated???

Is there an official policy statement on the ACF Rating of Tournaments outside its jurisdiction? I know that the zonal was rated but could in itself be questioned.The only non australian events that have been rated (Oceania Zonals) is where a significant numbers of players were Australian and where those that were were mostly FIDE rated.

Rincewind
11-01-2006, 07:18 PM
I was replying in response to Jenni's changing his mind comment...

I don't see that that constituted a request either. However, the point is that it is of benefit to the accuracy of the ACF rating system to rated as many competition games between ACF rated players as is possible. The extent to which the ACF rating officer provides freebies to foreign events is, of course, up to his/her discretion and (I imagine) that of the ACF council.

jenni
11-01-2006, 07:35 PM
Surely you must be kidding to ask for a tournament in another country to be rated under an "Australian Chess Federation Rating system" and ask them to pay for it too...There are FIDE ratings for that...

I can see it know... not happy with FIDE ELO ratings???
try Aussie Bill's Glicko2.... ;)

Seriously if your ACF rating is all you care about then play in Australia....

Wise

Honestly what an extreme reaction to a tiny comment on Barry's post!!

I don't give a stuff whether it is rated ACF or not! I only asked Bill out of interest, because I knew the last tournament in NZ which had a lot of Aussies in it, ended up being rated. Its my feminine sticky-beak personality - I always want to find out how things are going to work in advance....

Rincewind
11-01-2006, 07:44 PM
If the event is rated it is not subject to any ACF admin fee.

Thanks for the clarification.

jenni
12-01-2006, 10:35 AM
I don't see that that constituted a request either. .
I asked whether it was going to be rated, not to rate it. There is a difference but maybe too subtle for the wiseman.

Rincewind
12-01-2006, 10:39 AM
I asked whether it was going to be rated, not to rate it. There is a difference but maybe too subtle for the wiseman.

I think the confusion may have been due to the punctuation. I took the question mark as an indication of reflective musing rather than a question, per se.

jenni
12-01-2006, 10:51 AM
I think the confusion may have been due to the punctuation. I took the question mark as an indication of reflective musing rather than a question, per se.

Quite correct - I should have used .... rather than ?

ursogr8
13-01-2006, 07:14 AM
I think it should be possible to rate Aus v Aus games only right?

AR

Bill

Will you be rating Queenstown for games in the subset indicated by 'the muffled shouter'?

starter

Rincewind
13-01-2006, 07:53 AM
Will you be rating Queenstown for games in the subset indicated by 'the muffled shouter'?

I'm still interested in the general discussion of whether it should be rated under the present regime. I can understand to a certain degree the rating of FIDE tournaments like zonals and the like. But if Aussie organisers are going to have to pay for something which overseas organisers get for free then it starts to become tricky.

pax
13-01-2006, 08:25 AM
I've yet to hear any bitching about the top-heavy prizefund. About 7% of the prizefund is available to players who finish outside the top 15. That's WAAY less generous than Brisbane.

Bill Gletsos
13-01-2006, 10:31 AM
Bill

Will you be rating Queenstown for games in the subset indicated by 'the muffled shouter'?Comprehension isnt your strong point. I already made the answer quite clear when I responded to AR.

Davidflude
13-01-2006, 12:33 PM
Best wishes to everyone who is going. I have skied at Coronet Peak and remarkables so know that Queensland jumps in winter.

Advice.

1) do go up on the Gondola.

2) dont drive to Treble cone across the Crown Range if you are a nervous driver.

Garvinator
13-01-2006, 12:56 PM
Queensland jumps in winter.
????

ursogr8
13-01-2006, 01:16 PM
I'm still interested in the general discussion of whether it should be rated under the present regime. I can understand to a certain degree the rating of FIDE tournaments like zonals and the like. But if Aussie organisers are going to have to pay for something which overseas organisers get for free then it starts to become tricky.

Thanks for your response Baz. It is refreshing to be involved in a post-discussion with some-one who actually wants to look at the +'s and -'s of a decision, rather than just non-negotiable 'no, it is not going to happen'.

I can see your point of view about equity of charges, but I am undecided at the moment as to whether it is important. Like, it is not as though the Q'town organisers are in direct competition with the Q'land organisers; so the deal (i.e. the charges) levied on the Q'land organisers was going to be $xx.xx whether or not Q'town appeared and got rated. Equitable? I will have to think on that.

However, the upside or rating Q'town is clear.........
> it would improve the reliability the ratings of Australian players,
>> it would 'smooth out' distortions between different pools of players on the mainland Oz.
The Q'town Aussie v Aussie games would be GOOD data, and should not be thrown away.
Jeez, just imagine if some-one else puts in a SMERDON-performance in Q'town but his +'s get excluded because the ACF RO can't be bothered cranking the calculator.

regards
starter

Bill Gletsos
13-01-2006, 01:20 PM
However, the upside or rating Q'town is clear.........
> it would improve the reliability the ratings of Australian players,
>> it would 'smooth out' distortions between different pools of players on the mainland Oz.
The Q'town Aussie v Aussie games would be GOOD data, and should not be thrown away.
Jeez, just imagine if some-one else puts in a SMERDON-performance in Q'town but his +'s get excluded because the ACF RO can't be bothered cranking the calculator.Try using whats between your ears for a change and actually comprehending what was said.

Here is a hint.

Look at the actual question AR asked.

ursogr8
13-01-2006, 01:30 PM
Try using whats between your ears for a change and actually comprehending what was said.

Here is a hint.

Look at the actual question AR asked.

Verbatim he posted >

I think it should be possible to rate Aus v Aus games only right?

AR
I think you responded in essence...no, it is not possible.

Bill Gletsos
13-01-2006, 01:36 PM
Verbatim he posted >

I think it should be possible to rate Aus v Aus games only right?

AR
I think you responded in essence...no, it is not possible.Exactly and what conclusion have you drawn from that.

ursogr8
13-01-2006, 01:41 PM
Exactly and what conclusion have you drawn from that.

I have drawn no conclusion.
As I have posted in a couple of efforts and 1 PM.........that I obviously do not understand how it cannot be possible to rate Aussie v Aussie games.

Telling me I don't understand it does not make me a smarter starter. (insert any one of 5 smilies here).

Why is it not possible?

Bill Gletsos
13-01-2006, 01:48 PM
I have drawn no conclusion.Of course you have.
You apparently just havent realised it.

As I have posted in a couple of efforts and 1 PM.........that I obviously do not understand how it cannot be possible to rate Aussie v Aussie games.I answered you over here (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=83731&postcount=8) as to why it wont happen.

Telling me I don't understand it does not make me a smarter starter. (insert any one of 5 smilies here).Ah grasshopper, you have shut yourself inside a mental box of your own creation. Try thinking outside that box.

ursogr8
13-01-2006, 01:56 PM
Of course you have.
You apparently just havent realised it.
I answered you over here (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=83731&postcount=8) as to why it wont happen.
Ah grasshopper, you have shut yourself inside a mental box of your own creation. Try thinking outside that box.
Over there (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=83731&postcount=8)
you simply outlined that it is not approved to happen.
There is a difference between not approved and not possible in most cases.

Bill Gletsos
13-01-2006, 02:09 PM
Over there (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=83731&postcount=8)
you simply outlined that it is not approved to happen.
There is a difference between not approved and not possible in most cases.You are still mentally locked in your box.

Ian Rout
14-01-2006, 02:18 PM
On an almost completely different subject, does anybody know if there are going to be broadcast games?

Garvinator
14-01-2006, 04:54 PM
On an almost completely different subject, does anybody know if there are going to be broadcast games?
There should be at least two games broadcasted, maybe more. I know of at least two games.

arosar
14-01-2006, 06:15 PM
Well, we are here. And what an awesome place Qtown is. But, just wait til I post the pics of the tournament hall. Absolutely mind blowing. Not to mention that the staff are very professional. When we regisered this avro, each player was provided a name tag!

It's nice to see so many familiar faces here. I have already taken some pics and will post on my blog as well as on flickr.

And btw, I think I have just set my eyes upon the single most gorgeous chess player: blonde, 6 foot, blue eyes and a tatoo on her back!! Wait for a pic of that!

That's all for now as I go and check out the nightlife here.

AR

1min_grandmaster
14-01-2006, 07:44 PM
This place is unbelievably breath-taking! Mountains and lake right next to the town itself; the 360 degree view is amazing! And the tournament hall itself is also very good: it fits about 80 boards comfortably (but I think they need 90+; should be no problem). The lighting is very good and the 12 national flags plus tournament banner hanging above the top boards will stir the emotions of the players.

It appears as if the top 7 boards will be broadcast live, because their tables each have 1 board. But they have not laid out the DGT boards yet (those tables were the only ones with board numbers but no boards). So plenty for you guys to view online.

Garvinator
14-01-2006, 08:01 PM
It appears as if the top 7 boards will be broadcast live, because their tables each have 1 board. But they have not laid out the DGT boards yet (those tables were the only ones with board numbers but no boards). So plenty for you guys to view online.
this is good. One thing I have noticed is that the dgt boards are usually the last part of the tournament to be hooked up and to get working. It is probably one of my annoyances that this is the case as getting the outside transmission to work is usually a rather tricky business and usually takes a few tries. Attempting to do small changes at the last minute usually leads to other small errors or things being overlooked. (that was my one small whinge ; ) )

Garvinator
15-01-2006, 12:49 AM
Queenstown Classic 2006 - Round 1
Results


No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Rogers, Ian 2547 [0] : Wojnar, Maciej 1973 [0]
2 Stojic, Svetozar 1969 [0] : Chandler, Murray 2537 [0]
3 Sermek, Drazen 2530 [0] : Nijman, Brian 1966 [0]
4 Sims, Martin T 1965 [0] : Zhao, Zong Yuan 2461 [0]
5 Wohl, Alex 2452 [0] : Forster, Bill 1957 [0]
6 Oliver, Shannon 1956 [0] : Lane, Gary 2444 [0]
7 Smerdon, David 2421 [0] : Benson, Chris 1949 [0]
8 Adair, Danny 1905 [0] : Solomon, Stephen 2415 [0]
9 Civin, Thomas 2410 [0] : Feldman, Alex 1896 [0]
10 McKerras, Ross 1889 [0] : Hecht, Hans-Joachim 2397 [0]
11 Bjelobrk, Igor 2396 [0] : Kalisch, Tom 1885 [0]
12 Jackson, Ross 1880 [0] : Karolyi, Tibor 2364 [0]
13 Froehlich, Peter 2361 [0] : Guo-Yuthok, Sherab 1878 [0]
14 Shaw, Robin 1849 [0] : Dive, Russell 2359 [0]
15 Van Riemsdijk, Herman 2358 [0] : Stone, Andrew 1828 [0]
16 Wojnar, Jacek 1824 [0] : West, Guy 2356 [0]
17 Garbett, Paul 2354 [0] : Schon, Eugene 1782 [0]
18 Wilkins, Mark 1777 [0] : Canfell, Greg 2338 [0]
19 Ker, Anthony 2330 [0] : Davies, Geoff 1767 [0]
20 Duffield, Terry 1765 [0] : Feldman, Vladimir 2324 [0]
21 Nokes, Roger 2316 [0] : Fairley, Natasha 1755 [0]
22 Watharow, Sean 1746 [0] : Sutton, Richard 2301 [0]
23 Reilly, Tim 2299 [0] : Choong, Yita 1737 [0]
24 Churnih, Nick 1724 [0] : Berezina, Irina 2285 [0]
25 Lukey, Stephen 2279 [0] : Holland, Dennis 1715 [0]
26 Hurn, Robert 1704 [0] : Geveke, Michael 2277 [0]
27 Bleis, Christian 2267 [0] : Nijman, Arie 1691 [0]
28 Bradley, Chris 1690 [0] : Green, Peter 2263 [0]
29 Wastney, Scott 2256 [0] : Krawcheni, Andrei 1667 [0]
30 Wu, Jason 1651 [0] : Humphrey, Jonathan 2254 [0]
31 Susilodinata, Andrean 2254 [0] : Hvistendahl, Robert 1649 [0]
32 Rosario, Amiel 1645 [0] : Smith, Bob 2253 [0]
33 Guthrie, Aaron 2244 [0] : Maguire, Jesse 1634 [0]
34 Capper, David 1625 [0] : Steadman, Michael 2241 [0]
35 Wang, Puchen 2240 [0] : Smith, Vivian 1617 [0]
36 Gold, Hamish 1616 [0] : Tabatt, Hendrik 2236 [0]
37 Drummond, Matthew 2235 [0] : Roberts, Malcolm 1616 [0]
38 Gao, Wen 1607 [0] : Setiawan, Akwie 2226 [0]
39 Croad, Nicolas 2222 [0] : Gloistein, Bruce 1601 [0]
40 Cowen, Michael 1584 [0] : Caoili, Arianne 2207 [0]
41 Lakner, Jay 2207 [0] : Vosloo, Johan 1584 [0]
42 Brown, Andrew 1573 [0] : Dougherty, Mike 2206 [0]
43 Spain, Graeme 2202 [0] : Ghobrial, Adel 1569 [0]
44 Churton, Doug 1568 [0] : Wallis, Christopher 2186 [0]
45 Hohler, Peter 2183 [0] : Humphries, Ryan 1555 [0]
46 Jule, Alexandra 1553 [0] : Siegmund, Rainer 2177 [0]
47 Thornton, Gino 2176 [0] : Egan, Bill 1543 [0]
48 Taylor, Stefan 1540 [0] : Tredinnick, Malcolm 2172 [0]
49 Wade, Bob 2171 [0] : Ward, Simon 1537 [0]
50 Kay, Bruce 1531 [0] : Ly, Moulthun 2162 [0]
51 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija 2157 [0] : Beckman, John 1519 [0]
52 Mitchell, Bob 1516 [0] : Johnson, Quentin 2157 [0]
53 Lazarus, Ben 2155 [0] : Yu, Derek 1505 [0]
54 Romero, Cesar 1500 [0] : Bourmistrov, Denis 2143 [0]
55 Dragicevic, Domagoj 2133 [0] : Pritchard, Owen 1486 [0]
56 Boag, Peter 1479 [0] : Chan, Jason 2132 [0]
57 Perry, Roger 2132 [0] : Chen, Eachen 1469 [0]
58 Seabrook, Roy 1456 [0] : Armstrong, Malcolm J 2129 [0]
59 Shanmugam, Ravindran 2122 [0] : Zhang, Michael 1451 [0]
60 Beltrami, Matthew 1434 [0] : Goffin, Peter 2116 [0]
61 Ikeda, Junta 2111 [0] : Krstev, Mario 1426 [0]
62 Mulinder, Guy 1412 [0] : Jones, Brian 2110 [0]
63 Zworestine, Charles 2110 [0] : Nelson, John 1400 [0]
64 Ming-Wong, Alexander 1369 [0] : McNabb, Matthew 2109 [0]
65 Lachaux, Jerome 2102 [0] : Grigg, Sam 1364 [0]
66 Garland, Mana 1338 [0] : Eriksson, Ingela 2101 [0]
67 Beach, Paul 2099 [0] : Yang, Steven 1336 [0]
68 Smith, Devon 1334 [0] : Safarian, Alek 2099 [0]
69 Krstev, Antonio 2098 [0] : Kinder, Jessica 1329 [0]
70 Stevenson, Michael 1313 [0] : Bennion, David A 2096 [0]
71 Oliver, Gareth 2092 [0] : McIntyre, Brock 1298 [0]
72 Slack-Smith, Blair 1290 [0] : Song, Raymond 2085 [0]
73 Hu, Jason 2081 [0] : Trundle, George 1290 [0]
74 Cater-Millano, Amy 1267 [0] : Turner, Michael 2080 [0]
75 Baider, Daniel 2079 [0] : Hendry, Ian 1267 [0]
76 Oliver, Tamzin 1250 [0] : Bennett, Hilton 2078 [0]
77 Mendes da Costa, Alex 2065 [0] : Cheng, Bobby 1246 [0]
78 Yip, Edwin 1239 [0] : Watts, Duncan 2054 [0]
79 Fraemohs, Peter 2051 [0] : Judkins, Gary 1238 [0]
80 Humphrey, John 1216 [0] : Milligan, Helen 2045 [0]
81 Flitney, Adrian 2039 [0] : Guo, Emma 1197 [0]
82 Nokes, Jacqui 1189 [0] : Mir Ali, Mosaddeqne 2038 [0]
83 Kreusch, Frank 2037 [0] : Yu, Sally 1165 [0]
84 Oliver, Tony 1156 [0] : Soupizon, Remi 2031 [0]
85 Sofyan, Irvan 2024 [0] : Pedersen, Lachlan 1134 [0]
86 Watson, Jean 1103 [0] : Goodhue, Nathan 2022 [0]
87 Stojic, Dusan 2022 [0] : Smith, Wendy 1054 [0]
88 Barrett, Daniel 1031 [0] : Donaldson, Bruce 2012 [0]
89 Charmova, Evgenia 2006 [0] : Sellars, Samuel 1011 [0]
90 Jule, Sebastian 989 [0] : Aldridge, Alan 2002 [0]
91 Yachou, Nur 1994 [0] : Lee, Andrew 983 [0]
92 Kimura, Mikio 722 [0] : Davis, Anthony 1988 [0]
93 Hall, Craig 1980 [0] : Anagnostou, Basil [0]
94 Davies, Barry [0] : Nyberg, Michael 1979 [0]
95 Lane, Nancy 1978 [0] : Ghobrial, Paula [0]
96 Iwata, Kohei [0] : Selnes, Hamish 1975 [0]
97 Kim, Brendan [0] 1:0 BYE

by Swiss Perfect (TM) www.swissperfect.com
Pairings posted here are provisional until 11am on the day of play

Garvinator
15-01-2006, 12:52 AM
Looking at the pairings, some small funny things stand out:

1) Shannon Oliver v Gary Lane, I believe that Gary coaches or has had some role in coaching Tamzin and also is helps coach for ACTJCL
2) Amiel gets the main tournament organiser

and one of a small concern:

I see that Sherab is still playing in the tournament

ursogr8
15-01-2006, 07:04 AM
Looking at the pairings, some small funny things stand out:

1) Shannon Oliver v Gary Lane, I believe that Gary coaches or has had some role in coaching Tamzin and also is helps coach for ACTJCL
2) Amiel gets the main tournament organiser


Competitive index for round ( 1 ) of the Queenstown event is 676 .


starter

JGB
15-01-2006, 10:34 AM
It’s possible to wonder why they didn’t hold this event in Australia, sure would have saved a lot of aviation fuel and secured more entries with the prize money on offer… oh yeah I forgot we don’t have real chess sponsors down under! What happened to all those GM’s we were promised? :rolleyes: Looks like if we can knock over Chandler and Sermek, an Aussie should take 1st place home. Must admit, I am really looking forward to seeing some great chess played over there, although I don’t know how they do it; playing chess in that environment? I’d be off exploring the Lakes District of Queenstown or tasting some fine local ale!

Goodluck to all my mates over there!

Garvinator
15-01-2006, 11:06 AM
Does anyone know the link address for the live games?

Davidflude
15-01-2006, 11:09 AM
1) They obviously have not used accelerated pairings.

2) I expect the underrated Aussie juniors to cause chaos.

3) Watch that Speights beer. It contains some secret ingredient which affects australians for which charcoal pills are the antidote. Watch how the beer is delivered in ersatz milk tankers.

4) They also manufacture a product called Wilson's. The single malt is rather good, worth considering as a duty free putchase on the way home.

5) They might not be able to do it but it would be nice to see the player's nationalities on the draw.

6) once again "go the Box Hill players". While you are enjoying yourselves Gerrit, Scanner, Rolf and myself are getting the new venue organised. (I will put an unofficial report on this site in a separate thread.)

Garvinator
15-01-2006, 11:12 AM
5) They might not be able to do it but it would be nice to see the player's nationalities on the draw.
If they want to do it, they can. All you do is choose show federation in sp.

Bill Gletsos
15-01-2006, 11:50 AM
2) Amiel gets the main tournament organiser
No he doesnt. Bob Smith is President of the NZCF.
The main organiser is Paul Spiller as noted on the website.

Phil Bourke
15-01-2006, 11:51 AM
Does anyone have the web address for live games, can't find any link on the tournament pages.
Many thanks.

Garvinator
15-01-2006, 12:04 PM
No he doesnt. Bob Smith is President of the NZCF.
The main organiser is Paul Spiller as noted on the website.
you are correct.

Garvinator
15-01-2006, 12:30 PM
live game link now up

http://badbishop.com/queenstownchess/tfd.htm

5 boards being shown this round by the looks of it

auriga
15-01-2006, 12:35 PM
thanks gg.
wow. some good match ups!
shame oliver-lane not on live boards :)

pax
15-01-2006, 01:34 PM
If they want to do it, they can. All you do is choose show federation in sp.

Alternatively, use SP2HTML and get comprehensive coverage!

Garvinator
15-01-2006, 01:42 PM
Alternatively, use SP2HTML and get comprehensive coverage!
where is that wink emoticon when you need it ; )

Bill Gletsos
15-01-2006, 01:43 PM
The following are the updated pairings for round 1.


No Name Feder Loc Total Result Name Feder Loc Total

1 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 [0] : Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 [0]
2 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 [0] : Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 [0]
3 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 [0] : Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [0]
4 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 [0] : Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 [0]
5 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 [0] : Forster, Bill NZL 1957 [0]
6 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 [0] : Lane, Gary AUS 2444 [0]
7 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 [0] : Benson, Chris NZL 1949 [0]
8 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [0] : Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 [0]
9 Civin, Thomas CZE 2410 [0] : Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [0]
10 McKerras, Ross NZL 1889 [0] : Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 [0]
11 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 [0] : Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 [0]
12 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [0] : Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 [0]
13 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 [0] : Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 [0]
14 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 [0] : Dive, Russell NZL 2359 [0]
15 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 [0] : Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [0]
16 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [0] : West, Guy AUS 2356 [0]
17 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 [0] : Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 [0]
18 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [0] : Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 [0]
19 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 [0] : Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [0]
20 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [0] : Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 [0]
21 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 [0] : Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 [0]
22 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [0] : Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 [0]
23 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 [0] : Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [0]
24 Churnih, Nick AUS 1724 [0] : Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 [0]
25 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 [0] : Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [0]
26 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [0] : Geveke, Michael GER 2277 [0]
27 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 [0] : Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [0]
28 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [0] : Green, Peter NZL 2263 [0]
29 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 [0] : Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [0]
30 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [0] : Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 [0]
31 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 [0] : Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 [0]
32 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [0] : Smith, Bob NZL 2253 [0]
33 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 [0] : Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [0]
34 Capper, David NZL 1625 [0] : Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 [0]
35 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 [0] : Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [0]
36 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [0] : Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 [0]
37 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 [0] : Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1616 [0]
38 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [0] : Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 [0]
39 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 [0] : Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [0]
40 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [0] : Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 [0]
41 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 [0] : Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [0]
42 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [0] : Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 [0]
43 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 [0] : Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [0]
44 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [0] : Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 [0]
45 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 [0] : Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [0]
46 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1553 [0] : Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 [0]
47 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 [0] : Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [0]
48 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [0] : Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 [0]
49 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 [0] : Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [0]
50 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [0] : Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 [0]
51 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 [0] : Beckman, John AUS 1519 [0]
52 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [0] : Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 [0]
53 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 [0] : Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [0]
54 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [0] : Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 [0]
55 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 [0] : Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [0]
56 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [0] : Chan, Jason AUS 2132 [0]
57 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 [0] : Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [0]
58 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [0] : Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 [0]
59 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 [0] : Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [0]
60 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [0] : Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 [0]
61 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 [0] : Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [0]
62 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [0] : Jones, Brian AUS 2110 [0]
63 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 [0] : Nelson, John ENG 1400 [0]
64 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0] : McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 [0]
65 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 [0] : Grigg, Sam AUS 1364 [0]
66 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [0] : Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 [0]
67 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 [0] : Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [0]
68 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [0] : Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 [0]
69 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 [0] : Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [0]
70 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0] : Bennion, David A WAL 2096 [0]
71 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 [0] : McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [0]
72 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [0] : Song, Raymond AUS 2085 [0]
73 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 [0] : Trundle, George NZL 1290 [0]
74 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [0] : Turner, Michael NZL 2080 [0]
75 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 [0] : Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [0]
76 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [0] : Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 [0]
77 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 [0] : Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [0]
78 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [0] : Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 [0]
79 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 [0] : Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0]
80 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [0] : Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 [0]
81 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 [0] : Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [0]
82 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [0] : Mir Ali, Mosaddeqne AUS 2038 [0]
83 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 [0] : Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [0]
84 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0] : Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 [0]
85 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [0] : Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [0]
86 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0] : Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 [0]
87 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 [0] : Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [0]
88 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [0] : Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 [0]
89 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 [0] : Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [0]
90 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [0] : Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 [0]
91 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 [0] : Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [0]
92 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [0] : Davis, Anthony AUS 1988 [0]
93 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 [0] : Davies, Barry USA [0]
94 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [0] : Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 [0]
95 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 [0] : Iwata, Kohei JPN [0]
96 Kim, Brendan NZL [0] : Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 [0]
97 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [0] 1:0 BYE

pax
15-01-2006, 02:02 PM
Interesting to see Rogers employing similar tactics to his game against Raymond Song. i.e Simplify into a slightly superior endgame position and beat them with technique.

Davidflude
15-01-2006, 04:18 PM
According to legend one Russian coach told his players before either an olimpiad or candidates matches not to anything in the opening or middle game just outplay them in the ending.

If it works than why not.

I still think that if you are playing such a player than mix it up and make them think.

pax
15-01-2006, 04:44 PM
Oh no! Looks like Wojnar lost on time after putting up a stout defence. Rogers looks slightly better in the position, but it looked like it would take a mistake to lose..

Ian_Rogers
15-01-2006, 05:07 PM
Wojnar thought for about four minutes and had a minute left when he resigned. He can't stop ideas such as Kh3 and Rd6 with a winning pawn endgame.
Ian

Bill Gletsos
15-01-2006, 06:39 PM
Here are the Round 2 pairings.

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [1] : Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [1]
2 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [1] : Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [1]
3 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [1] : Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [1]
4 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [1] : Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [1]
5 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [1] : Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [1]
6 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [1] : Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [1]
7 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [1] : Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [1]
8 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [1] : Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [1]
9 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [1] : Civin, Thomas CZE 2410 2410 [1]
10 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [1] : Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [1]
11 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [1] : Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [1]
12 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [1] : Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [1]
13 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [1] : Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [1]
14 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [1] : Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [1]
15 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [1] : Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [1]
16 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [1] : Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [1]
17 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [1] : Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [1]
18 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [1] : Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [1]
19 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [1] : Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [1]
20 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [1] : Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [1]
21 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [1] : Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [1]
22 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [1] : Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [1]
23 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [1] : Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [1]
24 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [1] : Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [1]
25 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [1] : Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [1]
26 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [1] : Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [1]
27 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [1] : Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [1]
28 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [1] : Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [1]
29 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [1] : Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [1]
30 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [1] : Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [1]
31 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [1] : Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [1]
32 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [1] : Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [1]
33 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [1] : Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [1]
34 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [1] : Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [1]
35 Davis, Anthony AUS 1988 1988 [1] : Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [1]
36 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [1] : Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [1]
37 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [1] : Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [1]
38 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [1] : Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [1]
39 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [1] : Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [1]
40 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [1] : Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [1]
41 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [1] : Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [1]
42 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [1] : Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [1]
43 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [1] : Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [1]
44 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1] : Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [1]
45 Davies, Barry USA [1] : Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [.5]
46 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [.5] : Jule, Alexandra AUS 1553 [.5]
47 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [.5] : Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [.5]
48 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [.5] : Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [.5]
49 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [.5] : Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [.5]
50 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [.5] : Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [.5]
51 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [.5] : Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [0]
52 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [0] : Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [0]
53 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [0] : Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [0]
54 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [0] : Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [0]
55 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [0] : Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [0]
56 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [0] : Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [0]
57 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [0] : Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [0]
58 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [0] : Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [0]
59 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [0] : Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [0]
60 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [0] : Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [0]
61 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [0] : Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [0]
62 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [0] : Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [0]
63 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [0] : Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [0]
64 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [0] : Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [0]
65 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [0] : Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [0]
66 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [0] : McKerras, Ross NZL 1889 [0]
67 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [0] : Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [0]
68 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [0] : Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [0]
69 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [0] : Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0]
70 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [0] : Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [0]
71 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [0] : Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [0]
72 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [0] : Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [0]
73 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [0] : Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [0]
74 Grigg, Sam AUS 1364 [0] : Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [0]
75 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [0] : Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0]
76 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [0] : Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [0]
77 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [0] : Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [0]
78 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [0] : Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [0]
79 Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [0] : Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [0]
80 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [0] : Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [0]
81 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [0] : Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [0]
82 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [0] : Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [0]
83 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [0] : Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [0]
84 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0] : Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [0]
85 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [0] : Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [0]
86 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [0] : Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0]
87 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [0] : Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [0]
88 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [0] : Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0]
89 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [0] : Capper, David NZL 1625 [0]
90 Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [0] : Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [0]
91 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [0] : Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [0]
92 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1616 [0] : Anagnostou, Basil AUS [0]
93 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [0] : Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [0]
94 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [0] : Ghobrial, Paula AUS [0]
95 Iwata, Kohei JPN [0] : Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [0]
96 Kim, Brendan NZL [0] 1:0 BYE
97 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [1] .5:.5 BYE
98 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [1] .5:.5 BYE

ursogr8
15-01-2006, 06:55 PM
Competitive indicies for rounds ( 1, 2 ) of the Queenstown event are 676, 423 .


starter

Frank Walker
15-01-2006, 07:07 PM
What rating system are they using, we have 2000 rated people drawing with 900's.

Congrats Sebastian anyway

Bill Gletsos
15-01-2006, 07:11 PM
What rating system are they using, we have 2000 rated people drawing with 900's.

Congrats Sebastian anywayIf a player has a FIDE rating that is being used otherwise it is an intermix of ACF, New Zealand and other national ratings.

Biggest upsets appears to be:
60 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [0] 1 : 0 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 [0]
71 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 [0] 0 : 1 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [0]
78 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [0] 1 : 0 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 [0]
83 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 [0] 0 : 1 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [0]
90 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [0] 1 : 0 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 [0]


30 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [0] .5 : .5 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 [0]
46 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1553 [0] .5 : .5 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 [0]
48 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [0] .5 : .5 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 [0]
53 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 [0] .5 : .5 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [0]
67 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 [0] .5 : .5 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [0]
89 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 [0] .5 : .5 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [0]

Frank Walker
15-01-2006, 07:19 PM
Yeh are they both NZCF or FIDE

Bill Gletsos
15-01-2006, 07:22 PM
Yeh are they both NZCF or FIDEAnd ACF and other National ratings.

1min_grandmaster
15-01-2006, 07:23 PM
Today the top 7 tables were on their own tables but only the top 5 had DGT boards. This is why there were only 5 games transmitted online.

I am not sure if there are more DGT boards or not. I guess there are not; otherwise they would have put them out already.

arosar
15-01-2006, 08:00 PM
Blog updated with my game against Bob Smith today. Just basic annotations OK. Feedback welcome.

Also pics on my flickr account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster.

I am having trouble creating a set, so you have to navigate pic-by-pic.

AR

Garvinator
15-01-2006, 09:57 PM
Blog updated with my game against Bob Smith today. Just basic annotations OK. Feedback welcome.

Also pics on my flickr account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster.

I am having trouble creating a set, so you have to navigate pic-by-pic.

AR
when do the pictures from nz end and the ones from the aus champs start?

Kevin Bonham
16-01-2006, 12:25 AM
I note that despite the rating difference on most boards comfortably exceeding starter's suggested maximum for a non-junk round there were nonetheless 5 wins and 6 draws for the lower-rated players out of 91 games in which both players were rated:

30 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [0] .5:.5 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [0]
46 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1553 [0] .5:.5 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [0]
48 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [0] .5:.5 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [0]
53 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [0] .5:.5 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [0]
60 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [0] 1:0 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [0]
67 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [0] .5:.5 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [0]
71 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [0] 0:1 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [0]
78 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [0] 1:0 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [0]
83 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [0] 0:1 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [0]
89 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [0] .5:.5 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [0]
90 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [0] 1:0 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002

Hardly sounds like a pointless junk round to me.

Careth
16-01-2006, 12:30 AM
Wicked pics arosar:-) keep up the good work. ggrayggray, I assume the ones on page 3 under the top 2 are the Aus. Champs, due to their date (Jan 9), which is said under the details and comments etc.

Garvinator
16-01-2006, 01:53 AM
I note that despite the rating difference on most boards comfortably exceeding starter's suggested maximum for a non-junk round there were nonetheless 5 wins and 6 draws for the lower-rated players out of 91 games in which both players were rated:

30 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [0] .5:.5 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [0]
46 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1553 [0] .5:.5 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [0]
48 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [0] .5:.5 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [0]
53 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [0] .5:.5 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [0]
60 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [0] 1:0 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [0]
67 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [0] .5:.5 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [0]
71 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [0] 0:1 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [0]
78 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [0] 1:0 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [0]
83 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [0] 0:1 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [0]
89 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [0] .5:.5 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [0]
90 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [0] 1:0 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002

Hardly sounds like a pointless junk round to me.

I disagree, but I dont consider any round 'pointless'.

Your results show it is still only 10% against the expectant results and 'only' five wins.

I would say that this is actually a pretty normal statistic for a first round of a monster swiss.

If I could be bothered calculating the differential, I would say that quite a few players would have been sitting in very different seats for the first round if the Australian players were acf rated instead of fide rated.

Davidflude
16-01-2006, 04:03 AM
Great to see two Box Hill members and Ergas participants go well in the opening round. I predicted that Aussie juniors (did I mention Ergas Participants) would cause chaos. It has started.

I like the photos and must investigate the flicr website.

Davidflude
16-01-2006, 04:04 AM
Only the top five boards were included on the PGN file. Are the organisers going to add more games to the PGN file?

arosar
16-01-2006, 09:48 AM
Only the top five boards were included on the PGN file. Are the organisers going to add more games to the PGN file?

Gary Bekker made this clear prior to commencement that they are lacking manpower. It is likely to be only top boards for now.

AR

Garvinator
16-01-2006, 09:52 AM
Gary Bekker made this clear prior to commencement that they are lacking manpower. It is likely to be only top boards for now.

AR
This is something I notice all the time at tournaments, organisers etc will pay for some of the most weird items, but then expect humans to work for free. It is a ratio that I dont understand and I think it contributes highly to the problem you have listed AR.

arosar
16-01-2006, 09:58 AM
when do the pictures from nz end and the ones from the aus champs start?

The computers in net cafes here do not have macromedia installed. And flickr needs me to have macromedia to organise my pics into a "set". Viewing the pics by sets makes it easy.

So you'll just have to go by the dates. I'm also going to edit them now and clearly label them by rounds.

AR

Davidflude
16-01-2006, 10:11 AM
I saw a report on the net that the Canadians have come up with a relatively cheap device that each player uses to record the moves and capture them in PGN format. In the long term this would make life much easier for tournament organisers. Has anyone any details of this?

I have been involved in recording games. In my opinion certain things stand out.

1) You need a person in control of game entry. (This person may need to be paid)

2) You should have multiple PC's for game entry. Chessbase Light is perfect for this.

3) No games are eligible for best game prizes unless they have been entered on the computer.

4) Juniors are very good at entering games. Adults are less good.

5) The last round is always a problem to get games recorded.

6) It is difficult to read scoresheets, mine in particular.

arosar
16-01-2006, 10:13 AM
You mean Mon Roi?

AR

Garvinator
16-01-2006, 10:17 AM
I saw a report on the net that the Canadians have come up with a relatively cheap device that each player uses to record the moves and capture them in PGN format. In the long term this would make life much easier for tournament organisers. Has anyone any details of this? Is that the monroi hand held scoresheet type thing. I have heard of it, but as we in Australia struggle to some basic stuff for tournaments, havent taken much interest in it.


6) It is difficult to read scoresheets, mine in particular.
I have noticed this to. I think one prize the organisers should offer at each tournament is for most legible scoresheets over the total tournament. Might get players to record neater. Of course declining a players claim for illegible scoresheet could also work ; ) but probably with not the same amount of goodwill : )

ursogr8
16-01-2006, 12:20 PM
I note that despite the rating difference on most boards comfortably exceeding starter's suggested maximum for a non-junk round there were nonetheless 5 wins and 6 draws for the lower-rated players out of 91 games in which both players were rated:

30 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [0] .5:.5 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [0]
46 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1553 [0] .5:.5 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [0]
48 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [0] .5:.5 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [0]
53 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [0] .5:.5 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [0]
60 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [0] 1:0 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [0]
67 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [0] .5:.5 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [0]
71 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [0] 0:1 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [0]
78 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [0] 1:0 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [0]
83 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [0] 0:1 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [0]
89 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [0] .5:.5 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [0]
90 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [0] 1:0 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002

Hardly sounds like a pointless junk round to me.


Where is the shocked SMILLIE when you need it?

You have landed a few low blows in this one KB.

1. You lead off with my suggested criteria for a junk game, and leave the impression with the reader that the rest of the assertions in your post belong to me also. Why not use the junk criteria you promoted on the CI thread? It is your post after all.

2 Two of the upsets (you list) were predicted by the Flavid Dude ...he was at ERGAS and has played them, and he knows NZ like the back of his hand. It seems to me that predictable upsets due to rating-adjustment-drag cannot be classed as junk games.

3 Show me anyone flushed with being on the upside of an upset and I will show you some-one who will agree it was not pointless. Instead, we can only wonder how the other 183 folk felt.

regards (no, strike that),



with a degree of grumpiness,
starter


ps Evidence is here...> http://chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=84141&postcount=112

pax
16-01-2006, 12:40 PM
I saw a report on the net that the Canadians have come up with a relatively cheap device that each player uses to record the moves and capture them in PGN format. In the long term this would make life much easier for tournament organisers. Has anyone any details of this?


I think you would still be talking about a few hundred dollars per player, plus whatever for the tournament management software. Not cheap by any means.

I think there is also a technophobia issue.

Many players would realy, really object to using something like that during a game, even if it is intuitive and easy to use.



I have been involved in recording games. In my opinion certain things stand out.

1) You need a person in control of game entry. (This person may need to be paid)

2) You should have multiple PC's for game entry. Chessbase Light is perfect for this.


In Brisbane they used a simple Javascript/PHP applet that I adapted from LT-Pgnviewer. This was a nice simple solution, because the PGN fields are already in place and you just play through the moves and click a button.

One idea for entering moves is to ask players to enter their own games. The idea is that you have a number of computers available, and someone to look after them, and assist players as required. You use something with a really ultra-simple interface (like the applet described above).

The players then spend two minutes entering the games as part of the declaration of results and handing in of scoresheets process.

This gets around the legibility issue, as the players themselves can reconstruct the game and/or read their own writing.

The main difficulty is the technophobia issue. Ok, so if they really object you just get the scoresheet and do it yourself.

pax
16-01-2006, 12:48 PM
Interesting: Ly-Rogers was following Miladinovic-Ftacnik (2000). Rogers has departed from the line by sacrificing the pawn on b6. I wonder if it was part of Rogers' preparation for the Championship?

Davidflude
16-01-2006, 12:55 PM
I think that I have seen the Roger's idea somewhere.

Kevin Bonham
16-01-2006, 12:57 PM
1. You lead off with my suggested criteria for a junk game, and leave the impression with the reader that the rest of the assertions in your post belong to me also.

Which other assertions? I don't see any.


Why not use the junk criteria you promoted on the CI thread? It is your post after all.

Quite a few of the games are under whatever criteria I proposed, so I'd have to go through all the games and add up the CIs, and frankly I can't be bothered. Showing that your own CI figure looks sick is enough for me.


2 Two of the upsets (you list) were predicted by the Flavid Dude ...he was at ERGAS and has played them, and he knows NZ like the back of his hand. It seems to me that predictable upsets due to rating-adjustment-drag cannot be classed as junk games.

His prediction was "Aussie juniors (did I mention Ergas Participants) would cause chaos." His prediction was not (at least not publicly and specifically in advance) that there would be upsets in the first round by specific players across such wide ratings margins.

Furthermore if you are going to start making excuses for "upsets due to rating-adjustment-drag" then you should consider a higher CI average cutoff for a junk round, since any sufficiently large event will include some proportion of games where this is the case.


3 Show me anyone flushed with being on the upside of an upset and I will show you some-one who will agree it was not pointless. Instead, we can only wonder how the other 183 folk felt.

Exactly. We can only wonder because the debate on the CI thread showed clearly that we do not know.

I would however bet that at least a dozen of the remaining 80 wins to the higher rated player were close games.

Davidflude
16-01-2006, 01:08 PM
I tipped in general terms that the Aussie juniors would cause chaos. I do know a considerable amount about the kiwi players. If any Aussie juniors are drawn against Kiwis then if they send me an Email before midnight Kiwi time (12 noon zulu) and I will check my archives, Box Hill players take precedance.

Phil Bourke
16-01-2006, 01:10 PM
Looks like a solid sac to me, Black has control of the centre, a lead in development and after 14 ...Be6, ...d4 is a nice threat.

jenni
16-01-2006, 01:41 PM
Looking at the pairings, some small funny things stand out:

1) Shannon Oliver v Gary Lane, I believe that Gary coaches or has had some role in coaching Tamzin and also is helps coach for ACTJCL


Gary has intermittently coached our kids, so that was an amusing pairing. I don't believe he has ever coached for the ACTJCL.




and one of a small concern:

I see that Sherab is still playing in the tournamentNo concern - he is a tough cookie and coping well....

Vlad
16-01-2006, 01:48 PM
Looks like a solid sac to me, Black has control of the centre, a lead in development and after 14 ...Be6, ...d4 is a nice threat.

Looks like Ian might be in trouble to me..:)

Igor_Goldenberg
16-01-2006, 01:55 PM
As I said in the thread about the games, I didn't like 17.f4, it unnecessary coplicated the position. Don't think black has much to fear after 18...Nxe3

ursogr8
16-01-2006, 03:49 PM
Which other assertions? I don't see any.

Your "Hardly sounds like a pointless junk round to me." in #109. Who has said this?




Quite a few of the games are under whatever criteria I proposed, so I'd have to go through all the games and add up the CIs, and frankly I can't be bothered. Showing that your own CI figure looks sick is enough for me.

I think my calculated CI is accurate.
The inferred number of upsets from this calculated CI is entirely arithmetic...as Barry and Bill have shown on other occasions.
The difference between the inferred number of upsets and the observed (Q'town) number of upsets is not something I have commented on.
So, what of mine looks sick(sic)?





His prediction was "Aussie juniors (did I mention Ergas Participants) would cause chaos." His prediction was not (at least not publicly and specifically in advance) that there would be upsets in the first round by specific players across such wide ratings margins.

I had the benefit (roll-eyes smillie) of his private musings.


Furthermore if you are going to start making excuses for "upsets due to rating-adjustment-drag" then you should consider a higher CI average cutoff for a junk round, since any sufficiently large event will include some proportion of games where this is the case.
If you are going to exclude fine-tuning of the analysis then that would be unscientific.
But I do agree, a higher CI cut-off is suggested by this factor.




Exactly. We can only wonder because the debate on the CI thread showed clearly that we do not know.

Correction..........the CI thread did not show we did not know; it showed I had anecdotal and circumstantial evidence that was not accepted by the determinists in the debate. There is a difference. I am prepared to accept type 2 errors.


I would however bet that at least a dozen of the remaining 80 wins to the higher rated player were close games.
And of course this could not be a losing bet. (roll-eyes)


starter

Kevin Bonham
16-01-2006, 04:44 PM
Your "Hardly sounds like a pointless junk round to me." in #109. Who has said this?

It follows directly from your low opinion of rounds that exceed your supposed threshhold for a round to be non-junk.


So, what of mine looks sick(sic)?

The idea that such a round should be considered uncompetitive.


If you are going to exclude fine-tuning of the analysis then that would be unscientific.

Actually what you call "fine tuning of the analysis" a sceptic would call "fiddling the formula when your indicator produces a result you don't like"


But I do agree, a higher CI cut-off is suggested by this factor.

OK, that's all I was after.


Correction..........the CI thread did not show we did not know; it showed I had anecdotal and circumstantial evidence that was not accepted by the determinists in the debate.

The "determinists" as you call them don't accept "anecdotal and circumstantial evidence" when it doesn't amount to knowing or anything like it.


And of course this could not be a losing bet. (roll-eyes)

We could always set criteria for a close win and examine the PGN. (hmmm, 80 games, I'm not sure even I have that sort of time on my hands.)

It's interesting that the 11 upsets/draws all occurred in the lower two-thirds of the draw. I have not tested that for stat. sig. (and it would be a post hoc result anyway until confirmed by another) but suspect there's something in that - a 2000 losing to a 1200 is more likely than a 2500 losing to a 1700.

Garvinator
16-01-2006, 06:17 PM
It's interesting that the 11 upsets/draws all occurred in the lower two-thirds of the draw. I have not tested that for stat. sig. (and it would be a post hoc result anyway until confirmed by another) but suspect there's something in that - a 2000 losing to a 1200 is more likely than a 2500 losing to a 1700.
could this be partly because some of the players have wildly over inflated fide ratings in comparison to their acf ratings ie the 2000 fide rated players, when their acf ratings are say 1700 or so? Then they come up against a 1300 rated acf player and this looks like a massive upset.

eg 2000 fide v 1300 acf rated= win for 1300 player and we say massive upset
Same players: 1700 acf v 1300 acf= win for 1300 player and then this game just falls inside starter's 400 point junk round barrier.

ursogr8
16-01-2006, 06:38 PM
It follows directly from your low opinion of rounds that exceed your supposed threshhold for a round to be non-junk.

KB

Opinion is the wrong word.
My assumption is that the market-driven preference (for that part of the market we ((locals)) serve is for competitive rounds. My assumption is formed from evidence you don't accept. So be it. But, this is not a personal preference thing, but rather an administrators design-of-tournaments working assumption.
Personally, I am like most other 1st round winners; I broadcast the result as being my true strength (if I win), and go to the cafe to play lightning if I lose (smiley).




The idea that such a round should be considered uncompetitive.





Actually what you call "fine tuning of the analysis" a sceptic would call "fiddling the formula when your indicator produces a result you don't like"

If I didn't like the results of such a large tourney it would be tempting to not calculate and post the CIs. But I did post, knowing the field size.
Unlike Bill, who has retired on the questions
> should the RAPID RATINGS scale have the same mean as the TRADITIONAL RATINGS scale, and
>> is he rating Aussie v Aussie at Q'town.

At least I can bring myself to look at data that challenges a theory.




OK, that's all I was after.
Np.




The "determinists" as you call them don't accept "anecdotal and circumstantial evidence" when it doesn't amount to knowing or anything like it.
I know.




We could always set criteria for a close win and examine the PGN. (hmmm, 80 games, I'm not sure even I have that sort of time on my hands.)

It's interesting that the 11 upsets/draws all occurred in the lower two-thirds of the draw. I have not tested that for stat. sig. (and it would be a post hoc result anyway until confirmed by another) but suspect there's something in that - a 2000 losing to a 1200 is more likely than a 2500 losing to a 1700.

Really good stuff.
So, good it provoked gg'' to post a coherent remark. Where is the ACCLAIM counter btw.

starter

Bill Gletsos
16-01-2006, 06:53 PM
could this be partly because some of the players have wildly over inflated fide ratings in comparison to their acf ratings ie the 2000 fide rated players, when their acf ratings are say 1700 or so? Then they come up against a 1300 rated acf player and this looks like a massive upset.60 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [0] 1 : 0 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 [0] NZ rating 1763
71 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 [0] ACF 1995 0 : 1 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [0]
78 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [0] 1 : 0 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 [0] NZ rating 1810
83 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 [0] german rating 1819 0 : 1 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [0]
90 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [0] 1 : 0 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 [0] NZ rating 1860

30 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [0] .5 : .5 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 [0] ACF 2189
46 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1553 [0] FIDE 1970 .5 : .5 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 [0] german rating 2097
48 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [0] .5 : .5 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 [0] ACF 2073
53 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 [0] ACF 1771 .5 : .5 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [0]
67 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 [0] NZ 1955 .5 : .5 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [0]
89 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 [0] NZ 1681 ACF 1564.5 : .5 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [0]


eg 2000 fide v 1300 acf rated= win for 1300 player and we say massive upset
Same players: 1700 acf v 1300 acf= win for 1300 player and then this game just falls inside starter's 400 point junk round barrier.Isnt his junk round barrier 450.

Kevin Bonham
16-01-2006, 07:02 PM
could this be partly because some of the players have wildly over inflated fide ratings in comparison to their acf ratings ie the 2000 fide rated players, when their acf ratings are say 1700 or so? Then they come up against a 1300 rated acf player and this looks like a massive upset.

True, you can dispose of some of them that way, eg Lazarus' ACF is only 1771 which hardly makes his draw big news at all.


Opinion is the wrong word.
My assumption is that the market-driven preference (for that part of the market we ((locals)) serve is for competitive rounds. My assumption is formed from evidence you don't accept. So be it.

That just means that you think you have a very solid case and I think you have an opinion backed with insufficient evidence.

arosar
16-01-2006, 07:05 PM
Stop bullshitting with this CI crap.

Just go to the Qtown Chess Classic set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster/sets/72057594049151238/

Pics from round 2 added.

AR

Bill Gletsos
16-01-2006, 07:09 PM
Stop bullshitting with this CI crap.

Just go to the Qtown Chess Classic set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster/sets/72057594049151238/

Pics from round 2 added.So what about:


And btw, I think I have just set my eyes upon the single most gorgeous chess player: blonde, 6 foot, blue eyes and a tatoo on her back!! Wait for a pic of that!

Kevin Bonham
16-01-2006, 07:09 PM
Why is Alexandra Jule seeded on her ACF not her FIDE when the other Australians are seeded on their FIDE ratings first?

Comparing local rating for local rating two of the upsets drop below the cutoff.

Bill Gletsos
16-01-2006, 07:14 PM
Why is Alexandra Jule seeded on her ACF not her FIDE when the other Australians are seeded on their FIDE ratings first?

Comparing local rating for local rating two of the upsets drop below the cutoff.Originally on the participants page they were using the FIDE October ratings and she wasnt FIDE rated back in October.

I believe this was because the NZ FIDE ratings were messed up for January 2006. So instead of using FIDE October ratings just for NZ players and FIDE Jan for all the others they used everyones FIDE October FIDE.

However by the time the event started they switeched to Jan FIDE ratings but apparently missed that Alexandra was now FIDE rated.

arosar
16-01-2006, 07:15 PM
So what about:

Bill, funny thing happened mate. This is just between you and I OK. Anyway, the other day right, this sheila walks in. As soon as I see her, I move in for a bit of a chat. As I was about to, the boyfriend walks in. He's like taller than she is with friggin' tatoos all over him. I'm thinkin', FMD!

But just for you Bill, I will face my fears and snap that pic.

AR

Bill Gletsos
16-01-2006, 07:20 PM
Bill, funny thing happened mate. This is just between you and I OK. Anyway, the other day right, this sheila walks in. As soon as I see her, I move in for a bit of a chat. As I was about to, the boyfriend walks in. He's like taller than she is with friggin' tatoos all over him. I'm thinkin', FMD!As a chess move that probably rates a !?

But just for you Bill, I will face my fears and snap that pic.Just say you are a journalist for the GrandMaster blog.
Leaving out the Closet bit could be arghued as "marketing puff". ;)

Bill Gletsos
16-01-2006, 08:03 PM
Round 2 results

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [1] 0:1 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [1]
2 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [1] .5:.5 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [1]
3 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [1] 0:1 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [1]
4 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [1] 1:0 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [1]
5 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [1] 0:1 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [1]
6 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [1] 1:0 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [1]
7 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [1] 0:1 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [1]
8 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [1] 1:0 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [1]
9 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [1] 0:1 Civin, Thomas CZE 2410 2410 [1]
10 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [1] .5:.5 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [1]
11 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [1] 1:0 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [1]
12 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [1] 0:1 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [1]
13 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [1] 1:0 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [1]
14 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [1] .5:.5 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [1]
15 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [1] 1:0 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [1]
16 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [1] 0:1 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [1]
17 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [1] 1:0 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [1]
18 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [1] 0:1 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [1]
19 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [1] 1:0 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [1]
20 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [1] 0:1 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [1]
21 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [1] 1:0 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [1]
22 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [1] 0:1 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [1]
23 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [1] .5:.5 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [1]
24 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [1] 0:1 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [1]
25 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [1] 1:0 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [1]
26 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [1] 1:0 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [1]
27 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [1] 1:0 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [1]
28 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [1] 0:1 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [1]
29 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [1] 0:1 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [1]
30 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [1] 0:1 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [1]
31 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [1] 1:0 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [1]
32 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [1] 1:0 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [1]
33 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [1] 1:0 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [1]
34 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [1] 0:1 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [1]
35 Davis, Anthony AUS 1988 1988 [1] 0:1 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [1]
36 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [1] 1:0 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [1]
37 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [1] 0:1 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [1]
38 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [1] 1:0 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [1]
39 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [1] 0:1 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [1]
40 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [1] 1:0 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [1]
41 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [1] .5:.5 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [1]
42 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [1] 1:0 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [1]
43 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [1] .5:.5 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [1]
44 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1] .5:.5 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [1]
45 Davies, Barry USA [1] 0:1 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [.5]
46 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [.5] 1:0 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1553 [.5]
47 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [.5] 1:0 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [.5]
48 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [.5] 1:0 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [.5]
49 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [.5] 0:1 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [.5]
50 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [.5] 1:0 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [.5]
51 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [.5] 0:1 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [0]
52 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [0] 0:1 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [0]
53 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [0] 1:0 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [0]
54 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [0] .5:.5 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [0]
55 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [0] 1:0 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [0]
56 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [0] 0:1 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [0]
57 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [0] 1:0 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [0]
58 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [0] 1:0 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [0]
59 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [0] 1:0 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [0]
60 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [0] 1:0 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [0]
61 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [0] 1:0 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [0]
62 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [0] 0:1 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [0]
63 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [0] .5:.5 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [0]
64 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [0] 0:1 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [0]
65 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [0] 1:0 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [0]
66 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [0] 0:1 McKerras, Ross NZL 1889 [0]
67 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [0] 1:0 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [0]
68 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [0] .5:.5 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [0]
69 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [0] 1:0 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0]
70 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [0] 0:1 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [0]
71 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [0] 1:0 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [0]
72 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [0] 0:1 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [0]
73 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [0] 1:0 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [0]
74 Grigg, Sam AUS 1364 [0] 0:1 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [0]
75 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [0] 1:0 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0]
76 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [0] 1:0 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [0]
77 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [0] 1:0 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [0]
78 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [0] 0:1 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [0]
79 Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [0] 1:0 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [0]
80 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [0] 0:1 Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [0]
81 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [0] 1:0 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [0]
82 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [0] 1:0 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [0]
83 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [0] 0:1 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [0]
84 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0] 0:1 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [0]
85 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [0] 1:0 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [0]
86 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [0] 1:0 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0]
87 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [0] .5:.5 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [0]
88 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [0] 1:0 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0]
89 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [0] 1:0 Capper, David NZL 1625 [0]
90 Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [0] 1:0 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [0]
91 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [0] 0:1 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [0]
92 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1616 [0] 1:0 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [0]
93 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [0] 0:1 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [0]
94 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [0] .5:.5 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [0]
95 Iwata, Kohei JPN [0] 1:0 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [0]
96 Kim, Brendan NZL [0] 1:0 BYE
97 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [1] .5:.5 BYE
98 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [1] .5:.5 BYE

Bill Gletsos
16-01-2006, 08:04 PM
Round 3 pairings

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [2] : Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [2]
2 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [2] : Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [2]
3 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [2] : Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [2]
4 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [2] : Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [2]
5 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [2] : Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [2]
6 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [2] : Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [2]
7 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [2] : Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [2]
8 Civin, Thomas CZE 2410 2410 [2] : Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [2]
9 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [2] : Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [2]
10 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [2] : Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [2]
11 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [2] : Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [2]
12 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [2] : West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [2]
13 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [2] : Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [2]
14 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [2] : Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [2]
15 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [2] : Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [2]
16 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [2] : Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [2]
17 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [2] : Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [2]
18 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [2] : Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [2]
19 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [1.5] : Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [2]
20 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [1.5] : Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [1.5]
21 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [1.5] : Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [1.5]
22 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [1.5] : Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [1.5]
23 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [1.5] : Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [1.5]
24 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [1.5] : Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [1.5]
25 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [1.5] : McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [1.5]
26 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [1.5] : Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [1.5]
27 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [1.5] : Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [1.5]
28 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [1.5] : McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [1.5]
29 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [1.5] : Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [1.5]
30 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [1] : Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5]
31 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [1] : Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [1]
32 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [1] : Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [1]
33 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [1] : Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [1]
34 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [1] : Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [1]
35 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [1] : Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [1]
36 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [1] : Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [1]
37 McKerras, Ross NZL 1889 [1] : Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [1]
38 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [1] : Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [1]
39 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [1] : Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [1]
40 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [1] : Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [1]
41 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [1] : Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [1]
42 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [1] : Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [1]
43 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1] : Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [1]
44 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [1] : Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [1]
45 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [1] : Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [1]
46 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [1] : Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [1]
47 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [1] : Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [1]
48 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [1] : Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [1]
49 Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [1] : Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [1]
50 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [1] : Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [1]
51 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1] : Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [1]
52 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [1] : Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [1]
53 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [1] : Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [1]
54 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [1] : Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [1]
55 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [1] : Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [1]
56 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [1] : Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1616 [1]
57 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [1] : Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [1]
58 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [1] : Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [1]
59 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [1] : Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [1]
60 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [1] : Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [1]
61 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1] : Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [1]
62 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [1] : Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [1]
63 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [1] : Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [1]
64 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [1] : Davis, Anthony AUS 1988 1988 [1]
65 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [1] : Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1]
66 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [1] : Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [1]
67 Davies, Barry USA [1] : Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [1]
68 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [1] : Kim, Brendan NZL [1]
69 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [.5] : Iwata, Kohei JPN [1]
70 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [.5] : Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [.5]
71 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1553 [.5] : Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [.5]
72 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [.5] : Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [.5]
73 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [.5] : Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [.5]
74 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [.5] : Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [.5]
75 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [.5] : Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [.5]
76 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [.5] : Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [.5]
77 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [.5] : Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [0]
78 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [0] : Nelson, John ENG 1400 [0]
79 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [0] : Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0]
80 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [0] : Grigg, Sam AUS 1364 [0]
81 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [0] : Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [0]
82 Capper, David NZL 1625 [0] : Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [0]
83 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [0] : Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0]
84 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [0] : Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [0]
85 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [0] : Trundle, George NZL 1290 [0]
86 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [0] : Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [0]
87 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [0] : Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [0]
88 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [0] : Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [0]
89 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0] : Beckman, John AUS 1519 [0]
90 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [0] : Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0]
91 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [0] : Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0]
92 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [0] : Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [0]
93 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [0] : Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [0]
94 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [0] : Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [0]
95 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [0] : Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [0]
96 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [1] .5:.5 BYE
97 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [0] .5:.5 BYE
98 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [0] .5:.5 BYE

Rincewind
16-01-2006, 08:23 PM
Sally drew with Gino? There was a rating based upset. Will anyone post the game?

pax
16-01-2006, 08:49 PM
Sally drew with Gino? There was a rating based upset. Will anyone post the game?

She's on fire (and Brock McIntire - insert clappy smilies here)!

About the first 25 odd games from Rd 1 are up. The PGN looks a bit messed up though, full of $ signs which must represent some sort of symbols..

Davidflude
16-01-2006, 08:54 PM
You get the dollar signs if you enter games using Chesbase Light or chessbase
and dont know what you are doing. The easiest fix is to run a text editor against
the ersatz PGN file deling the $ signs.

pax
16-01-2006, 08:56 PM
Tut-tut, the DGT coverage failed to list Bob Wade as an IM (they listed all the others correctly)..

Davidflude
16-01-2006, 08:58 PM
She is massively paired up again in round three, and has black to boot.

ursogr8
16-01-2006, 09:46 PM
Stop bullshitting with this CI crap.

Just go to the Qtown Chess Classic set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster/sets/72057594049151238/

Pics from round 2 added.

AR



Competitive indicies for rounds ( 1, 2, 3 ) of the Queenstown event are 676, 423, 373 .


starter

Bill Gletsos
16-01-2006, 09:49 PM
She's on fire (and Brock McIntire - insert clappy smilies here)!

About the first 25 odd games from Rd 1 are up. The PGN looks a bit messed up though, full of $ signs which must represent some sort of symbols..Whats after the $ signs represent symbols. e.g. $146 after move 8 in Oliver - Lane represents the N symbol for novelty and $2 after move 23 represents ?.

Bill Gletsos
16-01-2006, 09:52 PM
You get the dollar signs if you enter games using Chesbase Light or chessbase
and dont know what you are doing. The easiest fix is to run a text editor against
the ersatz PGN file deling the $ signs.Removing the $ signs will still leave the numbers that follow the $ sign so you really nead to search for the $ signs and delete the $ and the number immediately following it.

pax
16-01-2006, 10:03 PM
Whats after the $ signs represent symbols. e.g. $146 after move 8 in Oliver - Lane represents the N symbol for novelty and $2 after move 23 represents ?.


Gah, why not use ? to represent ? *slaps forehead*

Davidflude
17-01-2006, 09:51 AM
At age 84 Bob Wade drew with GM Murray Chandler. Bob Wade is a kiwi who went to England many years ago (I think in the nineteen fifties). He wrote and edited books for Batsford. I have some in my collection. Look at how he uses two potent defensive techniques against Murray

- turning the position into a yukky mess

- the defensive sacrifice.

arosar
17-01-2006, 11:14 AM
At age 84 Bob Wade drew with GM Murray Chandler. Bob Wade is a kiwi who went to England many years ago (I think in the nineteen fifties). He wrote and edited books for Batsford. I have some in my collection. Look at how he uses two potent defensive techniques against Murray

- turning the position into a yukky mess

- the defensive sacrifice.

The post mortem between the two was something special. Unfortunately, my camera batteries went absolutely dead!

AR

pax
17-01-2006, 12:04 PM
Hi all,

I now have unofficial coverage of Queenstown on my website at:
http://paxmans.net/queenstown/

The available PGN is also accessible in a play-through applet.

At the moment I am entering results manually, so there may be errors (if you spot any pls PM or email me).

Jon

The_Wise_Man
17-01-2006, 03:20 PM
Pax

Well done... I know where I will be heading to analyse the tournment.

Wise

Davidflude
17-01-2006, 03:59 PM
Splendid work Pax. I like it

Davidflude
17-01-2006, 04:06 PM
Just in case anyone has missed it, there are photos attached to the bulletins issued after each round.

Frank Walker
17-01-2006, 04:55 PM
Hi all,

I now have unofficial coverage of Queenstown on my website at:
http://paxmans.net/queenstown/

The available PGN is also accessible in a play-through applet.

At the moment I am entering results manually, so there may be errors (if you spot any pls PM or email me).

Jon

Nice,
It is very kind of you,
The official website layout is not very good.

Bill Gletsos
17-01-2006, 07:28 PM
Round 3 results.

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [2] 0:1 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [2]
2 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [2] 1:0 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [2]
3 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [2] 0:1 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [2]
4 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [2] 1:0 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [2]
5 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [2] 1:0 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [2]
6 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [2] 1:0 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [2]
7 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [2] .5:.5 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [2]
8 Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [2] 0:1 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [2]
9 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [2] 1:0 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [2]
10 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [2] 1:0 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [2]
11 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [2] 1:0 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [2]
12 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [2] .5:.5 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [2]
13 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [2] 1:0 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [2]
14 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [2] 1:0 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [2]
15 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [2] .5:.5 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [2]
16 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [2] 0:1 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [2]
17 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [2] 1:0 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [2]
18 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [2] 0:1 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [2]
19 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [1.5] 1:0 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [2]
20 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [1.5] .5:.5 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [1.5]
21 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [1.5] .5:.5 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [1.5]
22 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [1.5] 1:0 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [1.5]
23 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [1.5] 0:1 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [1.5]
24 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [1.5] 0:1 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [1.5]
25 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [1.5] 1:0 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [1.5]
26 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [1.5] 1:0 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [1.5]
27 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [1.5] .5:.5 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [1.5]
28 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [1.5] .5:.5 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [1.5]
29 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [1.5] .5:.5 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [1.5]
30 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [1] 1:0 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5]
31 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [1] 0:1 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [1]
32 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [1] 0:1 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [1]
33 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [1] 1:0 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [1]
34 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [1] 0:1 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [1]
35 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [1] 0:1 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [1]
36 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [1] 1:0 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [1]
37 McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [1] 0:1 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [1]
38 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [1] 0:1 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [1]
39 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [1] 1:0 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [1]
40 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [1] 0:1 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [1]
41 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [1] 1:0 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [1]
42 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [1] 1:0 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [1]
43 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1] .5:.5 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [1]
44 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [1] 1:0 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [1]
45 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [1] 0:1 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [1]
46 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [1] 1:0 Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [1]
47 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [1] 0:1 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [1]
48 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [1] 0:1 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [1]
49 Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [1] 0:1 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [1]
50 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [1] 0:1 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [1]
51 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1] 0:1 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [1]
52 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [1] 1:0 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [1]
53 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [1] 0:1 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [1]
54 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [1] 1:0 Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [1]
55 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [1] 0:1 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [1]
56 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [1] 1:0 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1616 [1]
57 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [1] .5:.5 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [1]
58 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [1] 1:0 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [1]
59 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [1] 1:0 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [1]
60 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [1] 0:1 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [1]
61 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1] 0:1 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [1]
62 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [1] 1:0 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [1]
63 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [1] 1:0 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [1]
64 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [1] 0:1 Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [1]
65 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [1] 1:0 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1]
66 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [1] 0:1 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [1]
67 Davies, Barry USA [1] 0:1 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [1]
68 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [1] 1:0 Kim, Brendan NZL [1]
69 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [.5] 1:0 Iwata, Kohei JPN [1]
70 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [.5] 0:1 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [.5]
71 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [.5] 1:0 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [.5]
72 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [.5] 1:0 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [.5]
73 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [.5] 0:1 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [.5]
74 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [.5] 0:1 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [.5]
75 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [.5] 1:0 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [.5]
76 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [.5] .5:.5 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [.5]
77 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [.5] 0:1 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [0]
78 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [0] 1:0 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [0]
79 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [0] 1:0 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0]
80 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [0] 0:1 Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [0]
81 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [0] .5:.5 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [0]
82 Capper, David NZL 1625 [0] 1:0 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [0]
83 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [0] 1:0 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0]
84 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [0] .5:.5 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [0]
85 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [0] 1:0 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [0]
86 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [0] .5:.5 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [0]
87 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [0] 0:1 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [0]
88 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [0] 0:1 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [0]
89 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0] 0:1 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [0]
90 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [0] 1:0 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0]
91 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [0] 1:0 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0]
92 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [0] 1:0 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [0]
93 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [0] .5:.5 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [0]
94 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [0] 0:1 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [0]
95 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [0] 1:0 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [0]
96 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [1] .5:.5 BYE
97 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [0] .5:.5 BYE
98 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [0] .5:.5 BYE

Bill Gletsos
17-01-2006, 07:29 PM
Round 4 pairings.

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [3] : Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [3]
2 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [3] : Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [3]
3 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [3] : Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [3]
4 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [3] : Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [3]
5 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [3] : Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [3]
6 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [3] : Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [3]
7 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [3] : Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [3]
8 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [2.5] : Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [3]
9 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [2.5] : Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [2.5]
10 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [2.5] : Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [2.5]
11 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [2.5] : Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [2.5]
12 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [2.5] : Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [2.5]
13 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [2.5] : Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [2.5]
14 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [2] : Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [2.5]
15 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [2] : Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [2]
16 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [2] : Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [2]
17 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [2] : Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [2]
18 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [2] : Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [2]
19 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [2] : Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [2]
20 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [2] : Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [2]
21 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [2] : Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [2]
22 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [2] : Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [2]
23 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [2] : Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [2]
24 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [2] : Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [2]
25 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [2] : Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [2]
26 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [2] : Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [2]
27 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [2] : Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [2]
28 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [2] : Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [2]
29 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [2] : Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [2]
30 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [2] : Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [2]
31 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [2] : Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [2]
32 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [2] : Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [2]
33 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [2] : Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2]
34 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [2] : Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [2]
35 Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [2] : Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [2]
36 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [2] : Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [2]
37 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [2] : Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [2]
38 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [2] : Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [2]
39 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [2] : Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [2]
40 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [2] : Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [2]
41 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [2] : Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [2]
42 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [2] : Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [2]
43 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [2] : Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [2]
44 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [2] : Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [2]
45 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [2] : Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2]
46 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [1.5] : Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [1.5]
47 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5] : Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [1.5]
48 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [1.5] : Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [1.5]
49 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [1.5] : Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [1.5]
50 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [1.5] : Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [1.5]
51 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [1.5] : Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [1.5]
52 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [1.5] : Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [1.5]
53 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5] : Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [1.5]
54 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [1.5] : Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [1.5]
55 Capper, David NZL 1625 [1] : Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [1]
56 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [1] : Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [1]
57 Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [1] : Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [1]
58 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1616 [1] : Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [1]
59 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [1] : McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [1]
60 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [1] : Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [1]
61 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [1] : Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [1]
62 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [1] : Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [1]
63 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [1] : Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [1]
64 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [1] : Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [1]
65 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [1] : Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [1]
66 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [1] : Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [1]
67 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [1] : Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [1]
68 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [1] : Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [1]
69 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [1] : Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [1]
70 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [1] : Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [1]
71 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [1] : Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1]
72 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [1] : Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [1]
73 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [1] : Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1]
74 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [1] : Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [1]
75 Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1] : Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [1]
76 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [1] : Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [1]
77 Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [1] : Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [1]
78 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1] : Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [1]
79 Iwata, Kohei JPN [1] : Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1]
80 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [1] : Davies, Barry USA [1]
81 Kim, Brendan NZL [1] : Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [1]
82 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [.5] : Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [.5]
83 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [.5] : Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [.5]
84 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [.5] : Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [.5]
85 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [.5] : Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [.5]
86 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [.5] : Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [.5]
87 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [.5] : Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [.5]
88 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [.5] : Ghobrial, Paula AUS [.5]
89 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [.5] : Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [.5]
90 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [0] : Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [.5]
91 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [0] : Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [0]
92 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0] : Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [0]
93 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0] : Nelson, John ENG 1400 [0]
94 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0] : Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [0]
95 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [0] : Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0]
96 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0] : Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [0]
97 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [0] 1:0 BYE

DoroPhil
17-01-2006, 08:16 PM
Go Kravcheni!

Altecman
17-01-2006, 08:35 PM
This tourney is really ful of upsets!!

ursogr8
17-01-2006, 08:43 PM
Competitive indicies for rounds ( 1, 2, 3, 4 ) of the Queenstown event are 676, 423, 373, 354 .


starter

pax
17-01-2006, 09:05 PM
Updated:

http://queenstown.paxmans.net/

(PGN gradually getting there - it's a bit tricky when it's in bits and bobs)

Edit: PGN now up2date as of 10:30pm tonight

pax
17-01-2006, 09:08 PM
Hmm: Lukey-Lane is listed as a win for white in the results, but a draw in the PGN ?!?

Edit: But the position is blatantly won for white...

Rincewind
18-01-2006, 08:12 AM
Brock McIntyre (rated 1298) is having a good start to the tourney. Round 1, beat Gareth Oliver, Round 2 drew with FM Peter Hohler and round 3 drew with our Kiwi poster.

pax
18-01-2006, 01:16 PM
I can't see any mention of sponsors for the tournament on the website, except for one of the media releases which states that Murray Chandler is the main sponsor.

He must be putting in an extraordinary amount of money, as the entry fees ($150 and $80) fall well short of covering the $30k prize (or $35k as I read in the Rd 1 media release). That's without even thinking about the venue hire (which may be cheap depending on numbers staying in the hotel), publicity, arbiter fees etc etc.

Are there any other sponsors visible?

Anyway, many *clappy smilies* for Murray (and I hope he wins a chunky share of the prizemoney)!

Edit:

Perhaps there is no special deal with the hotel, as it is not the "recommended hotel" in the accommodation list, and is listed under "expensive hotels". If that is the case, the venue alone could cost as much as $20k.

arosar
18-01-2006, 04:18 PM
NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH!!

Raymond Song just beat New Zealand IM Russell Dive. The finish was beautiful. Mother and GM Rogers were walking around the table in excitement. Even I couldn't contain myself and clapped in all that silence!!

Dive was visibly angry with himself missing a B check!

Pics coming up!!!

AR

pax
18-01-2006, 04:28 PM
NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH!!

Raymond Song just beat New Zealand IM Russell Dive. The finish was beautiful. Mother and GM Rogers were walking around the table in excitement. Even I couldn't contain myself and clapped in all that silence!!

Dive was visibly angry with himself missing a B check!


Stonking result Ray!!

shaun
18-01-2006, 08:03 PM
It’s possible to wonder why they didn’t hold this event in Australia, sure would have saved a lot of aviation fuel and secured more entries with the prize money on offer… oh yeah I forgot we don’t have real chess sponsors down under! What happened to all those GM’s we were promised? :rolleyes:

Sometimes you don't need sponsors ...
The Summer Festival of Bridge is held this time each year in Canberra. They have a number of events, with the main one being "The South-West Pacific Teams". The entry free for this event is $750 per team (between $125 and $187.50 per player depending on the size of team). The information brochure doesn't list any prize money and I am assumimg there isn't any. Last time I looked 220 teams had entered this event. This is an income of $165,000 for this event alone.

Of course chess is different. I spent last evening having a back and forth email discussion with someone who wanted to join the CCLA at a concession rate and because they had seen it previously advertised as $8 per year, wanted to make sure they weren't going to be charged the new rate of $10.

Garvinator
18-01-2006, 08:06 PM
Queenstown Classic 2006 - Round 5
Results

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [4] : Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [4]
2 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [4] : Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [4]
3 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [4] : Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [3.5]
4 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [3.5] : West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [3.5]
5 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [3.5] : Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [3.5]
6 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [3.5] : Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [3.5]
7 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [3] : Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [3.5]
8 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [3] : Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [3]
9 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [3] : Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [3]
10 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [3] : Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [3]
11 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [3] : Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [3]
12 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [3] : Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [3]
13 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [3] : Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [3]
14 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [3] : Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [3]
15 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [3] : Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [3]
16 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [3] : Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [3]
17 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [3] : Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [3]
18 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [3] : Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [3]
19 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [3] : Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [3]
20 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [3] : Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [3]
21 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [3] : Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [3]
22 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [2.5] : Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [3]
23 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [2.5] : Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [2.5]
24 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [2.5] : Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [2.5]
25 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [2.5] : Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [2.5]
26 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [2.5] : Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [2.5]
27 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [2.5] : Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [2.5]
28 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [2.5] : Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [2.5]
29 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [2.5] : Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [2.5]
30 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [2.5] : Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [2.5]
31 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [2.5] : Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [2.5]
32 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [2.5] : Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [2.5]
33 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [2.5] : Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [2.5]
34 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [2.5] : Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [2.5]
35 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [2.5] : Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [2.5]
36 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [2.5] : Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [2.5]
37 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [2.5] : Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [2.5]
38 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [2.5] : McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [2.5]
39 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [2.5] : Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [2]
40 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [2] : Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [2]
41 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2] : Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [2]
42 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [2] : Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [2]
43 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [2] : Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [2]
44 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [2] : Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [2]
45 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [2] : Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [2]
46 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [2] : Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [2]
47 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [2] : Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [2]
48 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [2] : Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [2]
49 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [2] : Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [2]
50 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [2] : Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [2]
51 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [2] : Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [2]
52 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [2] : Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [2]
53 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [2] : Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [2]
54 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [2] : Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [2]
55 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [2] : McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [2]
56 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [2] : Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [2]
57 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [2] : Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [2]
58 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2] : Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [2]
59 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [2] : Iwata, Kohei JPN [2]
60 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [2] : Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5]
61 McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [1.5] : Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [1.5]
62 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [1.5] : Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [1.5]
63 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [1.5] : Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [1.5]
64 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [1.5] : Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [1.5]
65 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [1.5] : Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [1.5]
66 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [1.5] : Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [1.5]
67 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [1.5] : Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1.5]
68 Davies, Barry USA [1.5] : Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [1.5]
69 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [1.5] : Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [1.5]
70 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [1.5] : Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [1.5]
71 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [1.5] : Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [1.5]
72 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [1.5] : Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5]
73 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [1] : Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [1.5]
74 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1] : Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [1]
75 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [1] : Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [1]
76 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1] : Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [1]
77 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [1] : Capper, David NZL 1625 [1]
78 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [1] : Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [1]
79 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [1] : Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [1]
80 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [1] : Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1616 [1]
81 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1] : Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [1]
82 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [1] : Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [1]
83 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [1] : Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [1]
84 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [1] : Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [1]
85 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1] : Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [1]
86 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [1] : Anagnostou, Basil AUS [1]
87 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [1] : Beckman, John AUS 1519 [1]
88 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [1] : Kim, Brendan NZL [1]
89 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [.5] : Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [.5]
90 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [.5] : Trundle, George NZL 1290 [.5]
91 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [.5] : Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [.5]
92 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [.5] : Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [.5]
93 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0] : Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [.5]
94 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0] : Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0]
95 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0] : Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0]
96 Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [3] .5:.5 BYE
97 Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
98 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [.5] .5:.5 BYE

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Bill Gletsos
18-01-2006, 08:18 PM
Round 4 Results

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [3] .5:.5 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [3]
2 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [3] 1:0 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [3]
3 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [3] 0:1 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [3]
4 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [3] 0:1 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [3]
5 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [3] .5:.5 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [3]
6 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [3] 0:1 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [3]
7 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [3] 0:1 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [3]
8 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [2.5] 1:0 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [3]
9 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [2.5] 0:1 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [2.5]
10 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [2.5] .5:.5 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [2.5]
11 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [2.5] 1:0 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [2.5]
12 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [2.5] .5:.5 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [2.5]
13 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [2.5] 1:0 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [2.5]
14 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [2] .5:.5 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [2.5]
15 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [2] 0:1 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [2]
16 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [2] 0:1 Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [2]
17 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [2] 1:0 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [2]
18 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [2] 0:1 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [2]
19 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [2] .5:.5 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [2]
20 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [2] 0:1 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [2]
21 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [2] 1:0 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [2]
22 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [2] .5:.5 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [2]
23 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [2] .5:.5 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [2]
24 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [2] .5:.5 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [2]
25 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [2] .5:.5 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [2]
26 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [2] 1:0 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [2]
27 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [2] 0:1 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [2]
28 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [2] .5:.5 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [2]
29 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [2] 1:0 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [2]
30 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [2] .5:.5 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [2]
31 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [2] 1:0 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [2]
32 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [2] .5:.5 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [2]
33 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [2] 1:0 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2]
34 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [2] 0:1 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [2]
35 Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [2] .5:.5 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [2]
36 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [2] 1:0 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [2]
37 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [2] 0:1 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [2]
38 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [2] .5:.5 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [2]
39 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [2] 0:1 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [2]
40 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [2] 0:1 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [2]
41 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [2] 0:1 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [2]
42 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [2] 1:0 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [2]
43 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [2] .5:.5 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [2]
44 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [2] 0:1 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [2]
45 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [2] 1:0 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2]
46 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [1.5] 0:1 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [1.5]
47 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5] 0:1 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [1.5]
48 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [1.5] 1:0 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [1.5]
49 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [1.5] 0:1 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [1.5]
50 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [1.5] 1:0 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [1.5]
51 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [1.5] 0:1 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [1.5]
52 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [1.5] 0:1 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [1.5]
53 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5] 0:1 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [1.5]
54 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [1.5] 0:1 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [1.5]
55 Capper, David NZL 1625 [1] 0:1 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [1]
56 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [1] 1:0 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [1]
57 Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [1] 0:1 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [1]
58 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1616 [1] 0:1 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [1]
59 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [1] .5:.5 McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [1]
60 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [1] 0:1 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [1]
61 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [1] 1:0 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [1]
62 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [1] 0:1 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [1]
63 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [1] 0:1 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [1]
64 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [1] 0:1 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [1]
65 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [1] 0:1 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [1]
66 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [1] 1:0 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [1]
67 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [1] .5:.5 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [1]
68 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [1] 0:1 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [1]
69 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [1] 0:1 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [1]
70 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [1] 1:0 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [1]
71 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [1] 1:0 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1]
72 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [1] 0:1 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [1]
73 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [1] 1:0 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1]
74 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [1] .5:.5 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [1]
75 Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1] .5:.5 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [1]
76 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [1] 0:1 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [1]
77 Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [1] 0:1 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [1]
78 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1] 0:1 Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [1]
79 Iwata, Kohei JPN [1] 1:0 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1]
80 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [1] .5:.5 Davies, Barry USA [1]
81 Kim, Brendan NZL [1] 0:1 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [1]
82 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [.5] 0:1 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [.5]
83 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [.5] 1:0 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [.5]
84 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [.5] 1:0 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [.5]
85 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [.5] 0:1 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [.5]
86 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [.5] 0:1 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [.5]
87 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [.5] .5:.5 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [.5]
88 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [.5] 1:0 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [.5]
89 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [.5] 0:1 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [.5]
90 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [0] 1:0 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [.5]
91 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [0] .5:.5 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [0]
92 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0] 0:1 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [0]
93 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0] 0:1 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [0]
94 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0] 0:1 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [0]
95 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [0] 1:0 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0]
96 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0] 0:1 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [0]
97 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [0] 1:0 BYE

Bill Gletsos
18-01-2006, 08:18 PM
Round 5 pairings
No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [4] : Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [4]
2 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [4] : Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [4]
3 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [4] : Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [3.5]
4 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [3.5] : West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [3.5]
5 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [3.5] : Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [3.5]
6 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [3.5] : Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [3.5]
7 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [3] : Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [3.5]
8 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [3] : Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [3]
9 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [3] : Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [3]
10 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [3] : Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [3]
11 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [3] : Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [3]
12 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [3] : Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [3]
13 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [3] : Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [3]
14 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [3] : Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [3]
15 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [3] : Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [3]
16 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [3] : Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [3]
17 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [3] : Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [3]
18 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [3] : Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [3]
19 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [3] : Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [3]
20 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [3] : Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [3]
21 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [3] : Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [3]
22 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [2.5] : Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [3]
23 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [2.5] : Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [2.5]
24 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [2.5] : Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [2.5]
25 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [2.5] : Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [2.5]
26 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [2.5] : Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [2.5]
27 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [2.5] : Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [2.5]
28 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [2.5] : Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [2.5]
29 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [2.5] : Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [2.5]
30 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [2.5] : Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [2.5]
31 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [2.5] : Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [2.5]
32 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [2.5] : Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [2.5]
33 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [2.5] : Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [2.5]
34 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [2.5] : Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [2.5]
35 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [2.5] : Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [2.5]
36 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [2.5] : Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [2.5]
37 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [2.5] : Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [2.5]
38 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [2.5] : McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [2.5]
39 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [2.5] : Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [2]
40 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [2] : Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [2]
41 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2] : Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [2]
42 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [2] : Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [2]
43 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [2] : Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [2]
44 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [2] : Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [2]
45 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [2] : Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [2]
46 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [2] : Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [2]
47 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [2] : Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [2]
48 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [2] : Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [2]
49 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [2] : Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [2]
50 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [2] : Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [2]
51 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [2] : Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [2]
52 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [2] : Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [2]
53 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [2] : Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [2]
54 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [2] : Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [2]
55 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [2] : McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [2]
56 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [2] : Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [2]
57 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [2] : Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [2]
58 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2] : Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [2]
59 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [2] : Iwata, Kohei JPN [2]
60 Lee, Andrew NZL 983 [2] : Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5]
61 McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [1.5] : Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [1.5]
62 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [1.5] : Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [1.5]
63 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [1.5] : Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [1.5]
64 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [1.5] : Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [1.5]
65 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [1.5] : Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [1.5]
66 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [1.5] : Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [1.5]
67 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [1.5] : Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1.5]
68 Davies, Barry USA [1.5] : Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [1.5]
69 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [1.5] : Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [1.5]
70 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [1.5] : Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [1.5]
71 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [1.5] : Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [1.5]
72 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [1.5] : Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5]
73 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [1] : Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [1.5]
74 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1] : Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [1]
75 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [1] : Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [1]
76 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1] : Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [1]
77 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [1] : Capper, David NZL 1625 [1]
78 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [1] : Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [1]
79 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [1] : Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [1]
80 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [1] : Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1616 [1]
81 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1] : Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [1]
82 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [1] : Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [1]
83 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [1] : Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [1]
84 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [1] : Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [1]
85 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1] : Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [1]
86 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [1] : Anagnostou, Basil AUS [1]
87 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [1] : Beckman, John AUS 1519 [1]
88 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [1] : Kim, Brendan NZL [1]
89 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [.5] : Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [.5]
90 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [.5] : Trundle, George NZL 1290 [.5]
91 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [.5] : Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [.5]
92 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [.5] : Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [.5]
93 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0] : Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [.5]
94 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0] : Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0]
95 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0] : Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0]
96 Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [3] .5:.5 BYE
97 Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
98 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [.5] .5:.5 BYE

pax
18-01-2006, 08:32 PM
Website updated:

http://queenstown.paxmans.net/

The PGN is at about 40 boards for rds 1 and 2, and 5 boards for rds 3 and 4 (same as the official site at this minute).

pax
18-01-2006, 08:33 PM
Good to see Smerdon and Zhao wreaked revenge on the Aussie killers in Rd 4!

ursogr8
18-01-2006, 08:46 PM
Competitive indicies for rounds ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ) of the Queenstown event are 676, 423, 373, 354, 295 .


starter

The_Wise_Man
18-01-2006, 10:47 PM
What a quiet achiever in this field... Now with two IM scalps in a row...

Doesn't play much anymore, apart from grade matches for St George...
Spoke to him about a month or two before the tournament and he was really excited about this tournament and its slow time controls (as opposed to grade match time controls).

Good luck tomorrow against Chandler...

Wise

Altecman
19-01-2006, 08:59 AM
Well done to Alexandra Jule the U18 Girls Champion 2 1/2, but she has beaten 2 2100's well done!

jenni
19-01-2006, 02:40 PM
Brock McIntyre (rated 1298) is having a good start to the tourney. Round 1, beat Gareth Oliver, Round 2 drew with FM Peter Hohler and round 3 drew with our Kiwi poster.

Yes Gareth is eagerly following his results - I think it makes him feel a bit better...... Brock played really well in his game with Gareth and Gareth just blundered horribly to go down a pawn, which then queened.

Gareth said he is finding it hard to get too motivated here - he is finding two strong tournaments back to back a bit too much. However having said that he then played a 7 hour game against Karolyi yesterday and initially knocked back a draw.

arosar
19-01-2006, 04:12 PM
There is an ex porn star playing in Queenstown!!!

AR

gambitcrazy
19-01-2006, 04:33 PM
There is an ex porn star playing in Queenstown!!!

AR


If it is the same person (not someone with the same name) ... then a quick google search reveals this newspaper item from 2003:

http://www.insidetourism.com/images/IT469.pdf

Phil Bourke
19-01-2006, 05:04 PM
There is an ex porn star playing in Queenstown!!!

AR

Adds something new to that old line, "Excuse me, haven't I seen you somewhere before" ; )

Garvinator
19-01-2006, 05:51 PM
There is an ex porn star playing in Queenstown!!!

AR
what we want to know is if you have pictures of this girl, from the tournament of course : p

arosar
19-01-2006, 06:26 PM
Indeed I do.

AR

arosar
19-01-2006, 06:45 PM
Pics from round 5 are now up.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster/

I've included a few non chess pics - just to break the monotony. I hope you like these.

AR

Frank Walker
19-01-2006, 07:35 PM
Hi, just a question, if you are playing a NZCF rated person, will you get a NZCF rating or will it just be unrated?

ursogr8
19-01-2006, 08:59 PM
Competitive indicies for rounds ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ) of the Queenstown event are 676, 423, 373, 354, 295, 345 .


starter

pax
19-01-2006, 09:02 PM
Big props to 983 rated New Zealander Andrew Lee, who has 3/5. He has beaten Aldridge (2002), Choong (1737), and now Goffin (2116)!!

Bill Gletsos
19-01-2006, 11:27 PM
Round 5 results.

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [4] 0:1 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [4]
2 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [4] .5:.5 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [4]
3 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [4] 0:1 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [3.5]
4 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [3.5] .5:.5 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [3.5]
5 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [3.5] 1:0 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [3.5]
6 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [3.5] .5:.5 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [3.5]
7 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [3] 1:0 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [3.5]
8 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [3] 0:1 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [3]
9 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [3] 1:0 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [3]
10 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [3] 1:0 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [3]
11 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [3] 0:1 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [3]
12 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [3] 0:1 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [3]
13 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [3] .5:.5 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [3]
14 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [3] 1:0 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [3]
15 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [3] 1:0 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [3]
16 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [3] .5:.5 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [3]
17 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [3] .5:.5 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [3]
18 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [3] 1:0 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [3]
19 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [3] 1:0 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [3]
20 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [3] 0:1 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [3]
21 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [3] 1:0 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [3]
22 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [2.5] 1:0 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [3]
23 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [2.5] 0:1 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [2.5]
24 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [2.5] 0:1 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [2.5]
25 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [2.5] 0:1 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [2.5]
26 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [2.5] .5:.5 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [2.5]
27 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [2.5] 0:1 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [2.5]
28 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [2.5] 0:1 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [2.5]
29 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [2.5] 0:1 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [2.5]
30 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [2.5] 1:0 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [2.5]
31 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [2.5] 1:0 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [2.5]
32 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [2.5] 1:0 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [2.5]
33 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [2.5] .5:.5 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [2.5]
34 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [2.5] 1:0 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [2.5]
35 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [2.5] 0:1 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [2.5]
36 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [2.5] .5:.5 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [2.5]
37 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [2.5] 1:0 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [2.5]
38 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [2.5] 1:0 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [2.5]
39 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [2.5] 1:0 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [2]
40 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [2] 1:0 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [2]
41 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2] 0:1 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [2]
42 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [2] 0:1 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [2]
43 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [2] 0:1 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [2]
44 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [2] 1:0 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [2]
45 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [2] 1:0 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [2]
46 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [2] 1:0 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [2]
47 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [2] .5:.5 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [2]
48 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [2] 0:1 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [2]
49 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [2] 1:0 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [2]
50 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [2] 1:0 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [2]
51 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [2] 1:0 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [2]
52 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [2] 0:1 Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [2]
53 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [2] 0:1 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [2]
54 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [2] 0:1 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [2]
55 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [2] 1:0 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [2]
56 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [2] 1:0 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [2]
57 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [2] 1:0 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [2]
58 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2] 0:1 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [2]
59 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [2] 1:0 Iwata, Kohei JPN [2]
60 Lee, Andrew NZL [2] 1:0 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5]
61 McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [1.5] 1:0 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [1.5]
62 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [1.5] 0:1 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [1.5]
63 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [1.5] 0:1 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [1.5]
64 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [1.5] 1:0 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [1.5]
65 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [1.5] 1:0 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [1.5]
66 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [1.5] 0:1 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [1.5]
67 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [1.5] 1:0 Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1.5]
68 Davies, Barry USA [1.5] .5:.5 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [1.5]
69 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [1.5] .5:.5 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [1.5]
70 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [1.5] 1:0 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [1.5]
71 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [1.5] 0:1 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [1.5]
72 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [1.5] 1:0 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5]
73 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [1] 1:0 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [1.5]
74 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1] .5:.5 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [1]
75 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [1] 0:1 Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [1]
76 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1] 0:1 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [1]
77 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [1] 1:0 Capper, David NZL 1625 [1]
78 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [1] 0:1 Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [1]
79 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [1] 1:0 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [1]
80 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [1] 0:1 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1584 [1]
81 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1] 0:1 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [1]
82 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [1] 0:1 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [1]
83 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [1] 1:0 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [1]
84 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [1] 0:1 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [1]
85 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1] 0:1 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [1]
86 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [1] 1:0 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [1]
87 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [1] 0:1 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [1]
88 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [1] 1:0 Kim, Brendan NZL [1]
89 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [.5] 1:0 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [.5]
90 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [.5] 1:0 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [.5]
91 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [.5] 0:1 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [.5]
92 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [.5] 0:1 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [.5]
93 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0] 0:1 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [.5]
94 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [0] 1:0 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0]
95 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [0] 1:0 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0]
96 Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [3] .5:.5 BYE
97 Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
98 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [.5] .5:.5 BYE

Bill Gletsos
19-01-2006, 11:28 PM
Round 6 pairings.

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [5] : Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [4.5]
2 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [4.5] : Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [4.5]
3 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [4.5] : Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [4]
4 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [4] : Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [4]
5 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [4] : Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [4]
6 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [4] : Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [4]
7 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [4] : Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [4]
8 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [4] : Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [4]
9 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [4] : Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [4]
10 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [4] : Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [4]
11 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [3.5] : Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [4]
12 Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [3.5] : Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [3.5]
13 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [3.5] : Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [3.5]
14 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [3.5] : Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [3.5]
15 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [3.5] : Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [3.5]
16 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [3.5] : Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [3.5]
17 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [3.5] : Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [3.5]
18 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [3.5] : Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [3.5]
19 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [3.5] : Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [3.5]
20 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [3.5] : Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [3.5]
21 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [3.5] : Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [3.5]
22 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [3.5] : Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [3.5]
23 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [3] : Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [3.5]
24 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [3] : Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [3]
25 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [3] : Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [3]
26 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [3] : Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [3]
27 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [3] : Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [3]
28 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [3] : Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [3]
29 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [3] : Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [3]
30 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [3] : Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [3]
31 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [3] : Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [3]
32 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [3] : Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [3]
33 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [3] : Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [3]
34 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [3] : Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [3]
35 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [3] : Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [3]
36 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [3] : Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [3]
37 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [3] : Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [3]
38 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [3] : Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [3]
39 Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [3] : Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [3]
40 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [3] : Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [3]
41 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [2.5] : Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [2.5]
42 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [2.5] : Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [2.5]
43 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [2.5] : Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [2.5]
44 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [2.5] : Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [2.5]
45 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [2.5] : Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [2.5]
46 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [2.5] : Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [2.5]
47 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [2.5] : Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [2.5]
48 McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [2.5] : Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [2.5]
49 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [2.5] : Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [2.5]
50 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [2.5] : Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [2.5]
51 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [2.5] : Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [2.5]
52 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [2] : Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [2]
53 Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [2] : Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2]
54 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [2] : Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [2]
55 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [2] : Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [2]
56 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [2] : Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [2]
57 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [2] : Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [2]
58 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [2] : Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [2]
59 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [2] : Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [2]
60 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [2] : Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [2]
61 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [2] : Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [2]
62 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [2] : Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [2]
63 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [2] : Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [2]
64 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [2] : Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [2]
65 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [2] : Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [2]
66 Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [2] : Davies, Barry USA [2]
67 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [2] : Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2]
68 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [2] : Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [2]
69 Iwata, Kohei JPN [2] : Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [1.5]
70 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5] : Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [1.5]
71 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [1.5] : Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [1.5]
72 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [1.5] : Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [1.5]
73 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [1.5] : Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1.5]
74 Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1.5] : Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [1.5]
75 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [1.5] : Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [1.5]
76 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [1.5] : Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [1.5]
77 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5] : Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [1.5]
78 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [1.5] : Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [1.5]
79 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1] : Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1]
80 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [1] : Capper, David NZL 1625 [1]
81 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [1] : Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [1]
82 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [1] : Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [1]
83 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [1] : Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [1]
84 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [1] : Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [1]
85 Kim, Brendan NZL [1] : Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [1]
86 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [1] : Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1]
87 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [.5] : Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [.5]
88 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [.5] : Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [.5]
89 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0] : Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0]
90 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0] 1:0 BYE
91 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [4] .5:.5 BYE
92 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [4] .5:.5 BYE
93 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [3] .5:.5 BYE
94 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [3] .5:.5 BYE
95 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
96 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
97 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [2] .5:.5 BYE
98 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [3] .5:.5 BYE
99 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [2] .5:.5 BYE
100 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1584 [2] .5:.5 BYE
101 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
102 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [2] .5:.5 BYE
103 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [1] .5:.5 BYE
104 Lee, Andrew NZL [3] .5:.5 BYE

Garvinator
19-01-2006, 11:38 PM
Does anyone know the reason for the high number of players taking half point byes in this round?

Lucena
20-01-2006, 02:28 AM
There is an ex porn star playing in Queenstown!!!

AR

Where are those Ansell shirts when you need them...:doh:

arosar
20-01-2006, 06:52 AM
Does anyone know the reason for the high number of players taking half point byes in this round?

There are no rest days and this is Queenstown.

AR

jenni
20-01-2006, 03:19 PM
Does anyone know the reason for the high number of players taking half point byes in this round?

Maybe booked a tour together?

I am doing a 6 hour Dart River Safari with Tamzin and Angela tomorrow and Ingela and Charles Z decided they wanted to come as well. There were a number going to Milford Sound today.

jenni
20-01-2006, 03:22 PM
There is an ex porn star playing in Queenstown!!!

AR
There was an article about her in the local rag. She said she had grown up a lot since those "gross" days and that she was looking forward to getting back to chess and maybe making the women's team.

pax
20-01-2006, 04:13 PM
There was an article about her in the local rag. She said she had grown up a lot since those "gross" days and that she was looking forward to getting back to chess and maybe making the women's team.

Good for her : )

[hmm, I wonder which women's team she is talking about]

pax
20-01-2006, 04:38 PM
Good result for Alex. A GM norm is theoretically possible. He will play Chandler next round, and can plausibly play Rogers and Sermek in the remaining rounds. 50% against the GMs would probably be enough for a GM norm.

Bill Gletsos
20-01-2006, 04:45 PM
With 4 rounds left the event is still up for taking by a number of players.
Ian is back to =3rd behind Wohl and Chandler after his hiccup in round 3.

pax
20-01-2006, 04:54 PM
With 4 rounds left the event is still up for taking by a number of players.
Ian is back to =3rd behind Wohl and Chandler after his hiccup in round 3.

Yes, there will be a hell of a scrum on 5/6. That's the trouble with such a huge Swiss.

Actually, thinking again about Wohl's GM norm chances, he probably needs to beat Chandler to have a reasonable chance to play the other GMs. If he beat Chandler, he would get Rogers the following round assuming Rogers won. If not, he would be back with a bunch of players and probably wouldn't get enough GM opponents.

arosar
20-01-2006, 07:44 PM
Just a handful of pics today.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster

AR

Bill Gletsos
20-01-2006, 07:50 PM
Round 6 results.

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [5] 0:1 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [4.5]
2 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [4.5] 1:0 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [4.5]
3 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [4.5] .5:.5 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [4]
4 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [4] 0:1 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [4]
5 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [4] 0:1 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [4]
6 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [4] 1:0 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [4]
7 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [4] 0:1 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [4]
8 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [4] .5:.5 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [4]
9 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [4] 0:1 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [4]
10 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [4] 1:0 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [4]
11 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [3.5] 1:0 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [4]
12 Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [3.5] 1:0 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [3.5]
13 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [3.5] .5:.5 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [3.5]
14 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [3.5] .5:.5 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [3.5]
15 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [3.5] 1:0 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [3.5]
16 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [3.5] 0:1 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [3.5]
17 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [3.5] 1:0 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [3.5]
18 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [3.5] 1:0 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [3.5]
19 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [3.5] 0:1 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [3.5]
20 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [3.5] .5:.5 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [3.5]
21 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [3.5] 1:0 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [3.5]
22 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [3.5] 1:0 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [3.5]
23 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [3] 1:0 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [3.5]
24 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [3] 0:1 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [3]
25 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [3] 1:0 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [3]
26 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [3] 1:0 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [3]
27 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [3] 1:0 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [3]
28 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [3] 1:0 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [3]
29 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [3] 0:1 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [3]
30 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [3] 1:0 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [3]
31 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [3] .5:.5 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [3]
32 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [3] 1:0 Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [3]
33 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [3] 1:0 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [3]
34 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [3] 1:0 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [3]
35 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [3] 1:0 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [3]
36 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [3] .5:.5 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [3]
37 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [3] 1:0 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [3]
38 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [3] 0:1 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [3]
39 Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [3] .5:.5 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [3]
40 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [3] 1:0 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [3]
41 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [2.5] 0:1 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [2.5]
42 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [2.5] 1:0 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [2.5]
43 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [2.5] 0:1 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [2.5]
44 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [2.5] 0:1 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [2.5]
45 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [2.5] .5:.5 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [2.5]
46 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [2.5] 1:0 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [2.5]
47 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [2.5] 0:1 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [2.5]
48 McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [2.5] 1:0 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [2.5]
49 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [2.5] 1:0 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [2.5]
50 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [2.5] 1:0 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [2.5]
51 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [2.5] .5:.5 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [2.5]
52 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [2] 1:0 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [2]
53 Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [2] .5:.5 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2]
54 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [2] 1:0 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [2]
55 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [2] 1:0 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [2]
56 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [2] 0:1 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [2]
57 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [2] 0:1 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [2]
58 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [2] 1:0 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [2]
59 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [2] 1:0 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [2]
60 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [2] 0:1 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [2]
61 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [2] 1:0 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [2]
62 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [2] 1:0 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [2]
63 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [2] 0:1 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [2]
64 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [2] 1:0 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [2]
65 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [2] 1:0 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [2]
66 Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [2] .5:.5 Davies, Barry USA [2]
67 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [2] 1:0 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2]
68 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [2] 0:1 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [2]
69 Iwata, Kohei JPN [2] 1:0 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [1.5]
70 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5] 0:1 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [1.5]
71 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [1.5] 1:0 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [1.5]
72 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [1.5] 1:0 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [1.5]
73 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [1.5] 1:0 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1.5]
74 Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1.5] 0:1 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [1.5]
75 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [1.5] .5:.5 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [1.5]
76 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [1.5] 1:0 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [1.5]
77 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5] 0:1 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [1.5]
78 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [1.5] .5:.5 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [1.5]
79 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1] .5:.5 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1]
80 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [1] 0:1 Capper, David NZL 1625 [1]
81 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [1] 1:0 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [1]
82 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [1] 1:0 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [1]
83 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [1] 0:1 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [1]
84 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [1] 1:0 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [1]
85 Kim, Brendan NZL [1] 0:1 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [1]
86 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [1] .5:.5 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1]
87 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [.5] 0:1 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [.5]
88 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [.5] .5:.5 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [.5]
89 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [0] 1:0 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0]
90 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [0] 1:0 BYE
91 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [4] .5:.5 BYE
92 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [4] .5:.5 BYE
93 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [3] .5:.5 BYE
94 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [3] .5:.5 BYE
95 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
96 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
97 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [2] .5:.5 BYE
98 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [3] .5:.5 BYE
99 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [2] .5:.5 BYE
100 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1584 [2] .5:.5 BYE
101 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
102 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [2] .5:.5 BYE
103 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [1] .5:.5 BYE
104 Lee, Andrew NZL [3] .5:.5 BYE

Bill Gletsos
20-01-2006, 07:53 PM
Round 7 pairings.

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [5.5] : Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [5.5]
2 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [5] : Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [5]
3 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [5] : Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [5]
4 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [5] : Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [5]
5 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [5] : Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [5]
6 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [4.5] : Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [4.5]
7 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [4.5] : Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [4.5]
8 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [4.5] : Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [4.5]
9 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [4.5] : Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [4.5]
10 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [4.5] : Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [4.5]
11 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [4.5] : Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [4.5]
12 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [4] : Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [4.5]
13 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [4] : Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [4]
14 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [4] : Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [4]
15 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [4] : Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [4]
16 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [4] : Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [4]
17 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [4] : Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [4]
18 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [4] : Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [4]
19 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [4] : Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [4]
20 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [4] : Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [4]
21 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [4] : Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [4]
22 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [4] : Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [4]
23 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [4] : Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [4]
24 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [4] : Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [4]
25 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [3.5] : Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [4]
26 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [3.5] : Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [3.5]
27 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [3.5] : Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [3.5]
28 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [3.5] : McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [3.5]
29 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [3.5] : Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [3.5]
30 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [3.5] : Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [3.5]
31 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [3.5] : Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [3.5]
32 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [3.5] : Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [3.5]
33 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [3.5] : Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [3.5]
34 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [3.5] : Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [3.5]
35 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [3.5] : Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [3.5]
36 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [3.5] : Lee, Andrew NZL [3.5]
37 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [3.5] : Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [3.5]
38 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [3.5] : Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [3]
39 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [3] : Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [3]
40 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [3] : Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [3]
41 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [3] : Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [3]
42 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [3] : Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [3]
43 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [3] : Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [3]
44 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [3] : Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [3]
45 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [3] : Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [3]
46 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [3] : Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [3]
47 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [3] : Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [3]
48 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [3] : Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [3]
49 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [3] : Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [3]
50 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [3] : Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [3]
51 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [3] : Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [3]
52 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [3] : Beckman, John AUS 1519 [3]
53 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [3] : McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [3]
54 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [3] : Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [3]
55 Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [3] : Iwata, Kohei JPN [3]
56 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2.5] : Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [3]
57 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [2.5] : McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [2.5]
58 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [2.5] : Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [2.5]
59 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1584 [2.5] : Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [2.5]
60 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [2.5] : Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [2.5]
61 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [2.5] : Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [2.5]
62 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [2.5] : Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [2.5]
63 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [2.5] : Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [2.5]
64 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [2.5] : Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [2.5]
65 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [2.5] : Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [2.5]
66 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [2.5] : Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [2.5]
67 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [2] : Davies, Barry USA [2.5]
68 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [2] : Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [2]
69 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [2] : Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [2]
70 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [2] : Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [2]
71 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [2] : Nelson, John ENG 1400 [2]
72 Capper, David NZL 1625 [2] : Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [2]
73 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [2] : Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [2]
74 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [2] : Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [2]
75 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [2] : Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [2]
76 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2] : Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [2]
77 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [2] : Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [2]
78 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [2] : Anagnostou, Basil AUS [2]
79 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [1.5] : Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5]
80 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [1.5] : Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [1.5]
81 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1.5] : Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5]
82 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1.5] : Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1.5]
83 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1.5] : Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1.5]
84 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [1.5] : Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [1.5]
85 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [1.5] : Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [1.5]
86 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [1] : Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [1]
87 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [1] : Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [1]
88 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [1] : Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [1]
89 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0] : Trundle, George NZL 1290 [.5]
90 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [4.5] .5:.5 BYE
91 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [4] .5:.5 BYE
92 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [4.5] .5:.5 BYE
93 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [3.5] .5:.5 BYE
94 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [4] .5:.5 BYE
95 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [3.5] .5:.5 BYE
96 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [3] .5:.5 BYE
97 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [2] .5:.5 BYE
98 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
99 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [1] .5:.5 BYE
100 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
101 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [1] .5:.5 BYE
102 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [2] .5:.5 BYE
103 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [1] .5:.5 BYE
104 Kim, Brendan NZL [1] .5:.5 BYE

pax
20-01-2006, 08:58 PM
http://queenstown.paxmans.net/

Now updated (Rd 6 results, Rd 7 pairings, Rd 5 games up to bd 35).

ursogr8
20-01-2006, 09:57 PM
Competitive indicies for rounds ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ) of the Queenstown event are 676, 423, 373, 354, 295, 345, 317 .


starter

ursogr8
20-01-2006, 10:14 PM
Yes, there will be a hell of a scrum on 5/6. That's the trouble with such a huge Swiss.
<snip>



Another view of the competitiveness, or otherwise, of a huge SWISS is to look at the seeding positions of opponents .
For example.
The #1 seed has played the 25th seed and the 26th seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 26th.
The #2 seed has played the 8th seed and the 28th seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 29th.
The #3 seed has played the 16th seed and the 17th seed, and all his other opponents ( to the end of round 6) have been seeds with easier than the 17th.
The #4 seed has played the 5th seed and the 7th seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 7th.
The #5 seed has played the 4th seed and the 17th seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 17th.
The #6 seed has played the 25th seed and the 45th seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 45th.
The #7 seed has played the 4th seed and the 26th seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 26th.
The #8 seed has played the 2nd seed and the 21st seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 21st.
The #9 seed has played the 39th seed and the 40th seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 40th.
The #10 seed has played the 37th seed and the 41st seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 41st.
The #11 seed has played the 38th seed and the 44th seed, and all his other opponents (to the end of round 6) have been seeds easier than the 44th.

starter

Garvinator
20-01-2006, 10:17 PM
Competitive indicies for rounds ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ) of the Queenstown event are 676, 423, 373, 354, 295, 345, 317 .


starter
Do you have any analysis for us on these numbers? Any thoughts?

Bill Gletsos
20-01-2006, 10:50 PM
Do you have any analysis for us on these numbers? Any thoughts?Given that his numbers are players ratings based on a mixture of FIDE, ACF and NZCF they are meaningless. Then again they have always been meaningless.

jase
20-01-2006, 10:53 PM
Do you have any analysis for us on these numbers? Any thoughts?

You sure you want to get him started?
It's enough having Trev having his indices conversation with himself on this thread already.
May I be the first to congratulate you Garv on taking the bait. Lol.

Garvinator
20-01-2006, 10:59 PM
You sure you want to get him started?
It's enough having Trev having his indices conversation with himself on this thread already.
May I be the first to congratulate you Garv on taking the bait. Lol.
or maybe I already knew this and wanted to see everyone else suffer : p

Kevin Bonham
20-01-2006, 11:01 PM
I moved a few posts here as the games thread is for analysing games and whinging about the game viewer not for discussion of "competitiveness".


Another view of the competitiveness, or otherwise, of a huge SWISS is to look at the seeding positions of opponents .

This is an extremely flawed way of doing it because the Swiss system pairs on performance at the event in question first and seeding second. In fact I cannot see how the information you are posting will shed any insight on competitiveness of the event whatsoever.

It reminds me of a letter I received after a Tas Champs several years ago complaining that the winner had not played enough of the top seeds. My reply was along the lines that the top seeds had mostly not performed like top seeds on the weekend in question and therefore there was no reason for a leader to be paired with all that many of them.

Ian Rout
21-01-2006, 10:18 AM
This is an extremely flawed way of doing it because the Swiss system pairs on performance at the event in question first and seeding second.
Well scores rather than performance. If you beat Ian Rogers in Round 1 you are put in the same score group as the player who beats the bottom seed and the one who got the bye.

ursogr8
21-01-2006, 11:02 AM
Do you have any analysis for us on these numbers? Any thoughts?

gg''

No I don't have any thoughts on this particular set.

Bill is quite right that they are confounded with the effect that three ratings scales (with different means) are being used in the tournament.
But his drawn conclusion that they are meaningless is worthy of debate. However, since he seems to have run out of steam
http://chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=84121&postcount=103
posting the other key piece of data,
and since he has other unfinished questions on his plate, we should leave him undisturbed.


starter

ursogr8
21-01-2006, 11:28 AM
I moved a few posts here

Feel free to move my post.
The post was in response to Jon commenting on the bunching of leaders at the end of round 6.
Given that the #1 seed's most challenging game, to that point, was against the 25th seed (and other data as listed) then it is not such a surprise that there is bunching. And of course, Jon highlighted this with his comment about a huge Swiss. In other words ...the tourney design inevitably leads to potentially non-challenging games for 6 rounds.



as the games thread is for analysing games and whinging about the game viewer not for discussion of "competitiveness".
OK, TCN, if that is how you want the posts filed.




This is an extremely flawed way of doing it because the Swiss system pairs on performance at the event in question first and seeding second. In fact I cannot see how the information you are posting will shed any insight on competitiveness of the event whatsoever.

Let me speculate that there may be players from Aus. who have paid the fare/entry/accom. with the anticipation of playing quite a few games against players around their own rating. This would be (in their eyes) a competitive ambition. Now let us (at random ;-) ) look at some case historys

Player 1 (very close to the median of Aus ratings, and here the #131 seed. His opponents have been seeds 32, 178, 185, 184, 157, 180.
Player 2, the #151 seed, has played seeds 53, 57, 90, 84, 117, 79.
Have their tourney objectives been met?


It reminds me of a letter I received after a Tas Champs several years ago complaining that the winner had not played enough of the top seeds. My reply was along the lines that the top seeds had mostly not performed like top seeds on the weekend in question and therefore there was no reason for a leader to be paired with all that many of them.

Your straw-man; you knock it over.

regards
starter

Kevin Bonham
21-01-2006, 12:23 PM
Well scores rather than performance. If you beat Ian Rogers in Round 1 you are put in the same score group as the player who beats the bottom seed and the one who got the bye.

True. I should have been more clear and noted that the Swiss system measures performance by score, which is not always accurate.


Given that the #1 seed's most challenging game, to that point, was against the 25th seed (and other data as listed) then it is not such a surprise that there is bunching.

No, that is because the #1 seed to that point had not played as such, losing unexpectedly in round 3.


Let me speculate that there may be players from Aus. who have paid the fare/entry/accom. with the anticipation of playing quite a few games against players around their own rating.

Let me speculate instead that such players would be more likely to have the anticipation of playing quite a few games against players around their own strength, or stronger if they were juniors seeking to improve.

It is obvious that there are some discrepancies in the ratings and hence in the seedings as a result of ratings being drawn from several different systems - most notably low-end FIDE ratings that are too high.


Player 1 (very close to the median of Aus ratings, and here the #131 seed. His opponents have been seeds 32, 178, 185, 184, 157, 180.

Player 1 spends too much time taking pretty piccies instead of focusing on his chess and is thus far having a shocker. It would be impolite to discuss his plight here in too much gory detail but he has not so far performed well enough to be paired with players of his own rating. This is doubtless a glitch or extreme Swiss Gambit and I expect him to storm through the field winning all his remaining games.


Player 2, the #151 seed, has played seeds 53, 57, 90, 84, 117, 79.

This is another unrepresentative example. Player 2, rated 1505 by the ACF, is an improving junior who drew with a 2100+ (according to the ratings used for seedings purposes) in round 1, beat a 2000+ in round 3, and beat a 1767 in round 5. It is likely that this player is stronger than some of the other players in the tournament rated above him, especially those whose ratings may derive from other scales.

Also, player 2's round 3 opponent's FIDE rating is excessive (or that player is in very poor form) based on the results so far. So this is another case where using a raw seeding to make a case does not work.


Have their tourney objectives been met?

I would be surprised if player 2, offered the choice, would have chosen to play a bunch of other players around his own seeding to this point rather than the field he has actually met. I assume that player 2 wants to improve and that good results against players rated above him will boost his confidence.


Your straw-man; you knock it over.

Actually the examples you now offer suggest that it was not a straw man at all, but a correct anticipation of the kind of case you were likely to make.

(By the way, there is a case of sorts there to be made about bunching and its consequences in monster Swisses. You just haven't made it yet.)

Bill Gletsos
21-01-2006, 01:43 PM
gg''

No I don't have any thoughts on this particular set.

Bill is quite right that they are confounded with the effect that three ratings scales (with different means) are being used in the tournament.
But his drawn conclusion that they are meaningless is worthy of debate.No debate necessary. Your competitive indicies are meaningless rubbish.

However, since he seems to have run out of steam
http://chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=84121&postcount=103
posting the other key piece of data,I simply was answering Frank's specific question at the time. I had no intention of continuing with it.

and since he has other unfinished questions on his plate, we should leave him undisturbed.Incorrect. I answered them. The fact you either failed to comprehend them or did not like them is not my problem.

ursogr8
21-01-2006, 04:25 PM
<snip>
Let me speculate instead that such players would be more likely to have the anticipation of playing quite a few games against players around their own strength,...

I thought that is what I said/speculated.


or stronger if they were juniors seeking to improve.

But of course.
There are many motivations for the tourney entries.


It is obvious that there are some discrepancies in the ratings and hence in the seedings as a result of ratings being drawn from several different systems - most notably low-end FIDE ratings that are too high.
I thought I agreed that. ^




Player 1 spends too much time taking pretty piccies instead of focusing on his chess and is thus far having a shocker. It would be impolite to discuss his plight here in too much gory detail but he has not so far performed well enough to be paired with players of his own rating. This is doubtless a glitch or extreme Swiss Gambit and I expect him to storm through the field winning all his remaining games.

You said it, if it gets back to him.




This is another unrepresentative example.

I take this as an invitation to pick two more numbers out of the hat.

Player 3 (here the #180 seed). Her opponents have been seeds 84, 47, 27, 108, 137, 131.
Player 4 (here the #92 seed). His opponents have been seeds 188, 36, 22, 48, 38, 44.
<snip>



I would be surprised if player 2, offered the choice, would have chosen to play a bunch of other players around his own seeding to this point rather than the field he has actually met. I assume that player 2 wants to improve and that good results against players rated above him will boost his confidence.
Probably a fair speculation on your part.




Actually the examples you now offer suggest that it was not a straw man at all, but a correct anticipation of the kind of case you were likely to make.
Have you knocked him over?


(By the way, there is a case of sorts there to be made about bunching and its consequences in monster Swisses. You just haven't made it yet.)
You are allowed to post your own controversial case you know.


regards
starter

ursogr8
21-01-2006, 04:30 PM
No debate necessary.

Bill
If you don't want to debate then just take jase' advice.


Your competitive indicies are meaningless rubbish.

For this tourney they are confounded with the different means between the rating scales that are being used for seeding.


I simply was answering Frank's specific question at the time. I had no intention of continuing with it.

It was interesting the first time you did it and was a positive contribution. I encourage you to complete the job.


Incorrect. I answered them. The fact you either failed to comprehend them or did not like them is not my problem.

What about the issue of re-calibrating the rapid ratings so that they have the same mean as the ACF traditional ratings?

regards
starter

Kevin Bonham
21-01-2006, 04:53 PM
I thought that is what I said/speculated.

No, you said rating. With FIDE ratings being used for seeding purposes it is quite a big difference.


You said it, if it gets back to him.

I am quite prepared for that extremely likely eventuality! Actually he has beaten an underrated junior in a recent round so is doubtless on the way back already.


I take this as an invitation to pick two more numbers out of the hat.

Player 3 (here the #180 seed). Her opponents have been seeds 84, 47, 27, 108, 137, 131.

Another overperformer for rating, rated 1165 but beating a 2000+ in round 1, drawing with another 2000+ in round 2, and only starting to play players close to her own strength after a few losses resulting from graduating to very high boards. Since this player is quite underrated I'd suggest that playing seeds in the 130s is about where she should be. But furthermore, her first two opponents are performing poorly and were probably overrated and therefore not such great mismatches as might appear.


Player 4 (here the #92 seed. His opponents have been seeds 188, 36, 22, 48, 38, 44.<snip>

And another overperformer, rated in the 1900s but beating a 2200 in round 2, then a high 2100s in round 4.


Have you knocked him over?

You are allowed to post your own controversial case you know.

Your problem is that you persist in focusing on the experience of players who perform unusually well or badly. Such players will of course face opponents who are generally seeded well above them or well below them respectively, and there would be something wrong with the system if it did not do that. Therefore no matter how many such examples you post you will not prove anything.

Try focussing on the experience of players who are performing to their rating is my hint for you.

Bill Gletsos
21-01-2006, 05:00 PM
For this tourney they are confounded with the different means between the rating scales that are being used for seeding.The CI is rubbish all the time not just for this event.

It was interesting the first time you did it and was a positive contribution. I encourage you to complete the job.No thanks.

What about the issue of re-calibrating the rapid ratings so that they have the same mean as the ACF traditional ratings?I answered this previously.

ursogr8
21-01-2006, 05:57 PM
<snip>
Your problem is that you persist in focusing on the experience of players who perform unusually well or badly. Such players will of course face opponents who are generally seeded well above them or well below them respectively, and there would be something wrong with the system if it did not do that. Therefore no matter how many such examples you post you will not prove anything.

Try focussing on the experience of players who are performing to their rating is my hint for you.


On the contrary, I simply picked three BHCC members and Amiel.

But I guess you want two more >


Player 5 (here the #99 seed). His opponents have been seeds 2, 145, 191, 150, 175, 41. No seed within 50 of him. ie. He misses his spanning quartile entirely in 6 rounds.


Player 6 (here the #88 seed). His opponents have been seeds 184, 34, 174, 46, 42, 30.

regards
starter

Bill Gletsos
21-01-2006, 06:13 PM
Player 5 (here the #99 seed). His opponents have been seeds 2, 145, 191, 150, 175, 41. No seed within 50 of him. ie. He misses his spanning quartile entirely in 6 rounds.Hey mister metrics, unfortunately it appears maths isnt one of your strong points.
Seed 99 is within 50 of seed 145.

BTW I think you will find he was the 98th seed not 99th.

Bill Gletsos
21-01-2006, 06:49 PM
Round 7 results.

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [5.5] 0:1 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [5.5]
2 Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [5] 1:0 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [5]
3 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [5] 1:0 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [5]
4 Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [5] 1:0 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [5]
5 Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [5] .5:.5 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [5]
6 Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [4.5] 1:0 Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [4.5]
7 Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [4.5] .5:.5 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [4.5]
8 Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [4.5] 1:0 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [4.5]
9 Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [4.5] 0:1 Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [4.5]
10 Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [4.5] .5:.5 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [4.5]
11 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [4.5] 1:0 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [4.5]
12 Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [4] 1:0 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [4.5]
13 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [4] .5:.5 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [4]
14 Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [4] .5:.5 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [4]
15 Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [4] 0:1 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [4]
16 Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [4] 0:1 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [4]
17 Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [4] 1:0 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [4]
18 Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [4] .5:.5 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [4]
19 Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [4] 0:1 Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [4]
20 Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [4] .5:.5 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [4]
21 Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [4] 1:0 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [4]
22 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [4] 1:0 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [4]
23 Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [4] .5:.5 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [4]
24 Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [4] 1:0 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [4]
25 Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [3.5] 1:0 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [4]
26 Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [3.5] 0:1 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [3.5]
27 Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [3.5] 0:1 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [3.5]
28 Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [3.5] 1:0 McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [3.5]
29 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [3.5] 1:0 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [3.5]
30 Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [3.5] 1:0 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [3.5]
31 Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [3.5] 1:0 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [3.5]
32 Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [3.5] .5:.5 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [3.5]
33 Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [3.5] 1:0 Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [3.5]
34 Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [3.5] 1:0 Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [3.5]
35 Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [3.5] .5:.5 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [3.5]
36 Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [3.5] 1:0 Lee, Andrew NZL [3.5]
37 Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [3.5] 0:1 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [3.5]
38 Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [3.5] 0:1 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [3]
39 Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [3] .5:.5 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [3]
40 Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [3] 1:0 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [3]
41 Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [3] 0:1 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [3]
42 Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [3] 0:1 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [3]
43 Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [3] .5:.5 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [3]
44 Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [3] 1:0 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [3]
45 Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [3] 1:0 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [3]
46 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [3] .5:.5 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [3]
47 Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [3] 1:0 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [3]
48 Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [3] .5:.5 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [3]
49 Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [3] 1:0 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [3]
50 Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [3] 0:1 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [3]
51 Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [3] 1:0 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [3]
52 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [3] .5:.5 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [3]
53 Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [3] .5:.5 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [3]
54 Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [3] 1:0 Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [3]
55 Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [3] 1:0 Iwata, Kohei JPN [3]
56 Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2.5] 0:1 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [3]
57 Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [2.5] 1:0 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [2.5]
58 Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [2.5] 1:0 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [2.5]
59 Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1584 [2.5] .5:.5 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [2.5]
60 Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [2.5] 0:1 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [2.5]
61 Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [2.5] 1:0 Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [2.5]
62 Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [2.5] 1:0 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [2.5]
63 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [2.5] 1:0 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [2.5]
64 Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [2.5] 1:0 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [2.5]
65 Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [2.5] .5:.5 Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [2.5]
66 Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [2.5] 0:1 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [2.5]
67 Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [2] 1:0 Davies, Barry USA [2.5]
68 Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [2] 0:1 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [2]
69 Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [2] 1:0 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [2]
70 Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [2] .5:.5 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [2]
71 Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [2] 1:0 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [2]
72 Capper, David NZL 1625 [2] 0:1 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [2]
73 Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [2] .5:.5 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [2]
74 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [2] .5:.5 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [2]
75 Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [2] 0:1 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [2]
76 Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2] .5:.5 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [2]
77 Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [2] 1:0 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [2]
78 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [2] 1:0 Anagnostou, Basil AUS [2]
79 Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [1.5] 1:0 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5]
80 Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [1.5] 1:0 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [1.5]
81 Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1.5] 0:1 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [1.5]
82 Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [1.5] 1:0 Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1.5]
83 Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1.5] 0:1 Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [1.5]
84 Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [1.5] 1:0 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [1.5]
85 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [1.5] 0:1 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [1.5]
86 Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [1] 1:0 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [1]
87 Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [1] 0:1 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [1]
88 Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [1] 1:0 Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [1]
89 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0] 0:1 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [.5]
90 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [4.5] .5:.5 BYE
91 Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [4] .5:.5 BYE
92 Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [4.5] .5:.5 BYE
93 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [3.5] .5:.5 BYE
94 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [4] .5:.5 BYE
95 Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [3.5] .5:.5 BYE
96 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [3] .5:.5 BYE
97 Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [2] .5:.5 BYE
98 Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
99 Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [1] .5:.5 BYE
100 Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [2.5] .5:.5 BYE
101 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [1] .5:.5 BYE
102 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [2] .5:.5 BYE
103 Ghobrial, Paula AUS [1] .5:.5 BYE
104 Kim, Brendan NZL [1] .5:.5 BYE

Bill Gletsos
21-01-2006, 06:50 PM
Round 8 pairings.

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total Result Name Feder Rtg Loc Total

1 Chandler, Murray ENG 2537 2537 [6.5] : Rogers, Ian AUS 2547 2547 [6]
2 Bjelobrk, Igor NZL 2396 2396 [6] : Smerdon, David AUS 2421 2421 [6]
3 Civin, Tomas CZE 2410 2410 [5.5] : Sermek, Drazen SLO 2530 2530 [5.5]
4 Hecht, Hans-Joachim GER 2397 2397 [5.5] : Wohl, Alex AUS 2452 2452 [5.5]
5 West, Guy AUS 2356 2356 [5.5] : Solomon, Stephen AUS 2415 2415 [5.5]
6 Zhao, Zong Yuan AUS 2461 2461 [5] : Van Riemsdijk, Herman BRA 2358 2358 [5.5]
7 Lane, Gary AUS 2444 2444 [5] : Geveke, Michael GER 2277 2277 [5]
8 Berezina, Irina AUS 2285 2285 [5] : Karolyi, Tibor HUN 2364 2364 [5]
9 Green, Peter NZL 2263 2263 [5] : Froehlich, Peter GER 2361 2361 [5]
10 Garbett, Paul NZL 2354 2354 [5] : Susilodinata, Andrean INA 2254 2254 [5]
11 Canfell, Greg AUS 2338 2338 [5] : Wang, Puchen NZL 2240 2240 [5]
12 Nokes, Roger NZL 2316 2316 [5] : Spain, Graeme NZL 2202 2202 [5]
13 Sutton, Richard NZL 2301 2301 [5] : Wojnar, Maciej NZL 1973 1973 [5]
14 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 [5] : Reilly, Tim AUS 2299 2299 [5]
15 Ker, Anthony NZL 2330 2330 [4.5] : Siegmund, Rainer GER 2177 2177 [4.5]
16 Feldman, Vladimir AUS 2324 2324 [4.5] : Lazarus, Ben AUS 2155 2155 [4.5]
17 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija BIH 2157 2157 [4.5] : Lukey, Stephen NZL 2279 2279 [4.5]
18 Bourmistrov, Denis AUS 2143 2143 [4.5] : Wastney, Scott NZL 2256 2256 [4.5]
19 Humphrey, Jonathan AUS 2254 2254 [4.5] : Dragicevic, Domagoj AUS 2133 2133 [4.5]
20 Smith, Bob NZL 2253 2253 [4.5] : Shanmugam, Ravindran SIN 2122 2122 [4.5]
21 Steadman, Michael NZL 2241 2241 [4.5] : Ikeda, Junta AUS 2111 2111 [4.5]
22 Tabatt, Hendrik GER 2236 2236 [4.5] : Beach, Paul NZL 2099 2099 [4.5]
23 Chan, Jason AUS 2132 2132 [4.5] : Drummond, Matthew AUS 2235 2235 [4.5]
24 Song, Raymond AUS 2085 2085 [4.5] : Croad, Nicolas NZL 2222 2222 [4.5]
25 Zhang, Michael NZL 1451 [4.5] : Lakner, Jay AUS 2207 2207 [4.5]
26 Dougherty, Mike CAN 2206 2206 [4.5] : Bailey, Cameron AUS 1802 [4.5]
27 Wallis, Christopher AUS 2186 2186 [4.5] : Stojic, Dusan AUS 2022 2022 [4.5]
28 Donaldson, Bruce NZL 2012 2012 [4.5] : Hohler, Peter SUI 2183 2183 [4.5]
29 Dive, Russell NZL 2359 2359 [4] : Hu, Jason AUS 2081 2081 [4]
30 Bleis, Christian GER 2267 2267 [4] : Mendes da Costa, Alex AUS 2065 2065 [4]
31 Soupizon, Remi FRA 2031 2031 [4] : Guthrie, Aaron AUS 2244 2244 [4]
32 Setiawan, Akwie INA 2226 2226 [4] : Sofyan, Irvan INA 2024 [4]
33 Caoili, Arianne AUS 2207 2207 [4] : Yachou, Nur AUS 1994 1994 [4]
34 Stojic, Svetozar AUS 1969 1969 [4] : Tredinnick, Malcolm AUS 2172 2172 [4]
35 Forster, Bill NZL 1957 1957 [4] : Wade, Bob ENG 2171 2171 [4]
36 Ly, Moulthun AUS 2162 2162 [4] : Davis, Tony AUS 1988 1988 [4]
37 Perry, Roger NZL 2132 2132 [4] : Watharow, Sean AUS 1746 [4]
38 Holland, Dennis AUS 1715 [4] : Jones, Brian AUS 2110 2110 [4]
39 Krawcheni, Andrei AUS 1667 [4] : Zworestine, Charles AUS 2110 2110 [4]
40 Safarian, Alek AUS 2099 2099 [4] : Jule, Alexandra AUS 1774 1774 [4]
41 Krstev, Mario NZL 1426 [4] : Oliver, Gareth AUS 2092 2092 [4]
42 Johnson, Quentin NZL 2157 2157 [3.5] : Wu, Jason NZL 1651 [4]
43 Armstrong, Malcolm J ENG 2129 2129 [3.5] : Selnes, Hamish AUS 1975 1975 [3.5]
44 Eriksson, Ingela AUS 2101 2101 [3.5] : Oliver, Shannon AUS 1956 1956 [3.5]
45 Feldman, Alex AUS 1896 [3.5] : Krstev, Antonio NZL 2098 2098 [3.5]
46 Bennion, David A WAL 2096 2096 [3.5] : Jackson, Ross NZL 1880 [3.5]
47 Davies, Geoff NZL 1767 [3.5] : Baider, Daniel NZL 2079 2079 [3.5]
48 Bennett, Hilton NZL 2078 2078 [3.5] : Guo-Yuthok, Sherab AUS 1878 1878 [3.5]
49 Chernih, Nick AUS 1724 [3.5] : McKerras, Ross NZL 2052 2052 [3.5]
50 Beckman, John AUS 1519 [3.5] : Fraemohs, Peter NZL 2051 2051 [3.5]
51 Flitney, Adrian AUS 2039 2039 [3.5] : Wojnar, Jacek NZL 1824 [3.5]
52 Ali, Mosaddeque AUS 2038 2038 [3.5] : Rosario, Amiel AUS 1645 [3.5]
53 Nijman, Arie NZL 1691 [3.5] : Kreusch, Frank GER 2037 2037 [3.5]
54 Goodhue, Nathan NZL 2022 2022 [3.5] : Cowen, Michael NZL 1584 [3.5]
55 Chen, Eachen NZL 1469 [3.5] : Aldridge, Alan NZL 2002 2002 [3.5]
56 McIntyre, Brock AUS 1298 [3.5] : Hall, Craig NZL 1980 1980 [3.5]
57 Lane, Nancy AUS 1978 1978 [3.5] : Yu, Derek AUS 1505 [3.5]
58 Lee, Andrew NZL [3.5] : Lachaux, Jerome FRA 2102 2102 [3]
59 Turner, Michael NZL 2080 2080 [3] : Smith, Vivian NZL 1617 [3]
60 Watts, Duncan NZL 2054 2054 [3] : Beltrami, Matthew AUS 1434 [3]
61 Milligan, Helen SCO 2045 2045 [3] : Gao, Wen NZL 1607 [3]
62 Nyberg, Michael NZL 1979 1979 [3] : Roberts, Malcolm ENG 1584 [3]
63 Vosloo, Johan NZL 1584 [3] : Nijman, Brian NZL 1966 [3]
64 Sims, Martin T NZL 1965 1965 [3] : Oliver, Tamzin AUS 1250 [3]
65 Taylor, Stefan AUS 1540 [3] : Adair, Danny NZL 1905 [3]
66 Ward, Simon NZL 1537 [3] : Shaw, Robin AUS 1849 1849 [3]
67 Stone, Andrew NZL 1828 [3] : Cheng, Bobby NZL 1246 [3]
68 Schon, Eugene AUS 1782 1782 [3] : Barrett, Daniel AUS 1031 [3]
69 Yang, Steven NZL 1336 [3] : Wilkins, Mark NZL 1777 [3]
70 Iwata, Kohei JPN [3] : Maguire, Jesse AUS 1634 [3]
71 Humphries, Ryan AUS 1555 [2.5] : Thornton, Gino NZL 2176 2176 [2.5]
72 McNabb, Matthew NZL 2109 2109 [2.5] : Churton, Doug NZL 1568 [2.5]
73 Boag, Peter NZL 1479 [2.5] : Charmova, Evgenia NZL 2006 2006 [2.5]
74 Benson, Chris NZL 1949 1949 [2.5] : Seabrook, Roy NZL 1456 [2.5]
75 Kalisch, Tom AUS 1885 1885 [2.5] : Kinder, Jessica AUS 1329 [2.5]
76 Fairley, Natasha NZL 1755 1755 [2.5] : Pritchard, Owen NZL 1486 [2.5]
77 Mulinder, Guy NZL 1412 [2.5] : Choong, Yita AUS 1737 [2.5]
78 Hendry, Ian AUS 1267 [2.5] : Hurn, Robert WAL 1704 [2.5]
79 Guo, Emma AUS 1197 [2.5] : Bradley, Chris AUS 1690 [2.5]
80 Hvistendahl, Robert AUS 1649 1649 [2.5] : Yip, Edwin NZL 1239 [2.5]
81 Jule, Sebastian AUS 989 [2.5] : Gold, Hamish NZL 1616 [2.5]
82 Gloistein, Bruce NZL 1601 [2.5] : Humphrey, John AUS 1216 [2.5]
83 Yu, Sally AUS 1165 [2.5] : Ghobrial, Adel AUS 1569 [2.5]
84 Davies, Barry USA [2.5] : Capper, David NZL 1625 [2]
85 Egan, Bill AUS 1543 [2] : Garland, Mana NZL 1338 [2]
86 Nelson, John ENG 1400 [2] : Kay, Bruce NZL 1531 [2]
87 Mitchell, Bob NZL 1516 [2] : Slack-Smith, Blair AUS 1290 [2]
88 Stevenson, Michael NZL 1313 [2] : Romero, Cesar ECU 1500 [2]
89 Goffin, Peter NZL 2116 2116 [1.5] : Anagnostou, Basil AUS [2]
90 Judkins, Gary NZL 1238 [1.5] : Duffield, Terry NZL 1765 [1.5]
91 Grigg, Sam AUS 1755 1755 [1.5] : Pedersen, Lachlan AUS 1134 [1.5]
92 Smith, Devon NZL 1334 [1.5] : Ghobrial, Paula AUS [1.5]
93 Trundle, George NZL 1290 [1.5] : Kim, Brendan NZL [1.5]
94 Watson, Jean AUS 1103 [1.5] : Cater-Millano, Amy NZL 1267 [1.5]
95 Smith, Wendy AUS 1054 [1.5] : Nokes, Jacqui NZL 1189 [1]
96 Oliver, Tony AUS 1156 [1] : Kimura, Mikio AUS 722 [1]
97 Ming-Wong, Alexander NZL 1369 [0] 1:0 BYE

Kevin Bonham
21-01-2006, 07:16 PM
On the contrary, I simply picked three BHCC members and Amiel.

OK, your focus on useless examples was inadvertent.

I note Amiel's tournament has improved hugely with a win over a 2100!


Player 5 (here the #99 seed). His opponents have been seeds 2, 145, 191, 150, 175, 41. No seed within 50 of him. ie. He misses his spanning quartile entirely in 6 rounds.

Keep looking for a valid example of the sort I mentioned; maybe you'll find one eventually.

Player 5, rated 1969, had an upset loss in round 2 to a 1500s player so naturally received easy games for a couple of rounds.

Player 6 is performing above his 2022 rating in this event. His draw with a 2177 in round 4 was followed by a win over a 2254 in round 5. But for these results he would have played players closer to his own seeding in rounds 5 and 6.

samiam
21-01-2006, 08:28 PM
hello ,i cant download anything off the site because my computer is absolutly crap i was trying to see some games of a friend and was wondering if someone could put the games of matt beltrami up or send them to me if so.... i had to pick a crap user name didnt i ,thanks if someone could do that

pax
21-01-2006, 08:35 PM
The wide variety of matchups in a large Swiss have a very positive side.

It creates the potential for big upsets, and some truly exceptional performances. Performances that wouldn't be nearly so remarkable if they occurred in a divisonalised or accelerated tournament.

Would we have seen Alex Jule take down IM Dive in a divisionalised event? Or Forster beat Guthrie? Or McInitire draw with Hohler?

Take Andrew Brown. This 13 year old kid rated 1573 has come over on the back of a pretty good Aussie Junior, and is having an absolutely sensational Queenstown. He has won his last five, and only one of his games has been against a player ranked lower than 50 places above him. Yet he has beaten most of them! By starter's logic, it is somehow a bad thing that he hasn't played any 1500-1700 players.

141 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 W 42- B 78- W170+ B 91+ W 95+ B 68+ W 40+ 5

Frank Walker
21-01-2006, 08:40 PM
hello ,i cant download anything off the site because my computer is absolutly crap i was trying to see some games of a friend and was wondering if someone could put the games of matt beltrami up or send them to me if so.... i had to pick a crap user name didnt i ,thanks if someone could do that

Sorry mate absolutely nothing!
Well the game where he beat some guy rated over 2100 should have been included....
Sorry bout that, lets blame it on the organisers....

pax
21-01-2006, 08:42 PM
Igor's IM norm hopes are looking good after his win over Zhao. He will need to face one more IM after Smerdon tomorrow, and needs around 2300 performance over his last three games for a (9-game since he had a 0.5 pt bye) IM norm.

By the way, Wohl's GM norm chances are not completely dead after his loss today since he has drawn GM Hecht in Rd 8. He would need to beat Hecht and find another GM opponent in his last two games to have a hope.

samiam
21-01-2006, 08:55 PM
thanks anyway

ursogr8
21-01-2006, 09:06 PM
Hey mister metrics, unfortunately it appears maths isnt one of your strong points.
Seed 99 is within 50 of seed 145.

BTW I think you will find he was the 98th seed not 99th.

Bill

I have 4966 posts to date, and now you start to pick-up typos. (roll-eyes).

Btw, you posting as
> NSW Prez
>> a Mod.
>>> other
?



starter

ursogr8
21-01-2006, 09:09 PM
The wide variety of matchups in a large Swiss have a very positive side.

It creates the potential for big upsets, and some truly exceptional performances. Performances that wouldn't be nearly so remarkable if they occurred in a divisonalised or accelerated tournament.

Would we have seen Alex Jule take down IM Dive in a divisionalised event? Or Forster beat Guthrie? Or McInitire draw with Hohler?

Take Andrew Brown. This 13 year old kid rated 1573 has come over on the back of a pretty good Aussie Junior, and is having an absolutely sensational Queenstown. He has won his last five, and only one of his games has been against a player ranked lower than 50 places above him. Yet he has beaten most of them! By starter's logic, it is somehow a bad thing that he hasn't played any 1500-1700 players.

141 Brown, Andrew AUS 1573 W 42- B 78- W170+ B 91+ W 95+ B 68+ W 40+ 5


I wonder if KB will hop in here and take pax to task for selective examples to prove a point?

starter

Rincewind
21-01-2006, 09:24 PM
I wonder if KB will hop in here and take pax to task for selective examples to prove a point?

Feeling victimised? Perhaps a joke will serve to lighten the mood...


Q1. What do accountants use as a contraceptive?

















A1. Their personalities


Q2. What is the definition of a statistician?

















A2. Someone who is good with numbers but lacks the personality to become an accountant.

pax
21-01-2006, 10:04 PM
I wonder if KB will hop in here and take pax to task for selective examples to prove a point?


Ah, but I don't have a point. I'm rebutting your point, and am playing by your rules.. What could be fairer?

Bill Gletsos
21-01-2006, 11:07 PM
Bill

I have 4966 posts to date, and now you start to pick-up typos. (roll-eyes).Typical starter, ignores the comment he cannot do maths but defends his 99 instead of 98 as a typo.

Trent Parker
21-01-2006, 11:19 PM
Q1. What do accountants use as a contraceptive?
A1. Their personalities

Lol Watch it! :D



Q2. What is the definition of a statistician?
A2. Someone who is good with numbers but lacks the personality to become an accountant.


Rotfl :clap:

Garvinator
22-01-2006, 12:16 AM
Pics from round 5 are now up.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster/

I've included a few non chess pics - just to break the monotony. I hope you like these.

AR
Amiel, I must have missed the pics of the girl in question. Can you show me where they are please?

Garvinator
22-01-2006, 12:19 AM
or maybe I already knew this and wanted to see everyone else suffer : p
Hello Jase,

See, I did get to have my fun ; ) : p

Now, for this thread I think this CI talk is rubbish. One of the reasons being is that the players are not seeded using the same or similiar rating systems. Fide ratings are well known to be way to high for players with fide ratings around 2000.

Therefore the players who are seeded with 2000 approx fide ratings are starting the tournament on boards that would normally be too high for their true general playing standard.

jase
22-01-2006, 01:10 AM
Now, for this thread I think this CI talk is rubbish.

Jonathan Paxman's point is succinct and well made.

arosar
22-01-2006, 08:16 AM
The great Closet Grandmaster beat 2100+ Matthew MacNabb yesterday. For the annotations worthy of publication in NIC, go to: http://closetgrandmaster.blogspot.com/

And round 7 pics are now up - http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster/

Enjoy.

AR

ursogr8
22-01-2006, 08:30 AM
<snip>



Your problem is that you persist in focusing on the experience of players who perform unusually well or badly. Such players will of course face opponents who are generally seeded well above them or well below them respectively, and there would be something wrong with the system if it did not do that. Therefore no matter how many such examples you post you will not prove anything.

Try focussing on the experience of players who are performing to their rating is my hint for you.

OK KB

How about the 7th player (I bring to attention), seeded 6th, sitting on a score of 5/7 (looks about in your requested ball-park). His strongest opponent in 7 rounds (the length of most week-enders) was seed #23.

Or even another (8th) player seeded 18th, sitting on a score of 5/7 (looks about in your requested ball-park). The average of his opponents seed numbers is 41+ after 7 rounds.

starter

ursogr8
22-01-2006, 08:33 AM
Ah, but I don't have a point. I'm rebutting your point, and am playing by your rules.. What could be fairer?

Nothing could be fairer.

pax
22-01-2006, 09:10 AM
Jonathan Paxman's point is succinct and well made.

Darn, and there was me trying to argue that I didn't have a point ; -)

ursogr8
22-01-2006, 11:20 AM
Competitive indicies for rounds ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ) of the Queenstown event are 676, 423, 373, 354, 295, 345, 317, 318 .


starter

Kevin Bonham
22-01-2006, 04:30 PM
Btw, you posting as
> NSW Prez
> mod

Which part of this announcement (http://chesschat.org/announcement.php?f=39&a=13) do you urgently need to be reminded of?


How about the 7th player (I bring to attention), seeded 6th, sitting on a score of 5/7 (looks about in your requested ball-park). His strongest opponent in 7 rounds (the length of most week-enders) was seed #23.

Again a result of performance - lost to a player rated 140 points below in round 3, drew with another lower rated player in round 4. You will notice this player was sitting 15th after seven rounds, lower than his seeding. Also while his score of 5/7 is not that much lower than expected it has been acheived against a weaker than expected field because of his early results.


Or even another (8th) player seeded 18th, sitting on a score of 5/7 (looks about in your requested ball-park). The average of his opponents seed numbers is 41+ after 7 rounds.

Performance again - lost to a player rated 130 points lower in round 3, so naturally took a few rounds to get back to playing players around own seeding.

Also, average of opponents' seed numbers is not a good measure because it is too influenced by a few large differences occurring in the early rounds.

Let me be more precise then. See if you can find a player who:

* Has not beaten any higher-rated player
* Has not lost to any lower-rated player
* Has not drawn with a player whose rating differs from theirs by more than 150 points.
* If they have had multiple draws, unless they are right at the top or bottom of the seedings, the draws occur on both sides of their rating.

Then you may get an idea of how the monster Swiss performs (or doesn't) when a player is performing to their rating.

ursogr8
22-01-2006, 05:22 PM
Which part of this announcement (http://chesschat.org/announcement.php?f=39&a=13) do you urgently need to be reminded of?
hi KB


Hot where you are?
Certainly is here.

Urgently.....well, none of the announcement actually.
to be reminded of....well, all of it actually. First time I have seen it; although, by the date, it has been there for a while.

I was asking Bill btw, but tks anyway.

Must go looking for when Bill complies with Notices on behalf of any body explicitly stated to be made in the individual's position as an officebearer of that body or as its appointed spokesperson. Such notices shall carry, at the end of the post, the author's full name, the name of the organisation they represent, and their position within that organisation as ACF Ratings Officer. I must have missed that too.
Are you the only one who complies?

starter

Kevin Bonham
22-01-2006, 05:22 PM
Is Bjelobrk still eligible for the NZ Championship in the not especially unlikely case that he wins the thing? That IM norm must be looking rather solid after wiping out Smerdon today.

Kevin Bonham
22-01-2006, 05:27 PM
Urgently.....well, none of the announcement actually.
to be reminded of....well, all of it actually. First time I have seen it; although, by the date, it has been there for a while.

It is at the head of every forum so I assume you are reading by clicking "new posts" and missed it when first posted.


I was asking Bill btw, but tks anyway.

I took the liberty of unasking him for you. : )


Must go looking for when Bill complies with Notices on behalf of any body explicitly stated to be made in the individual's position as an officebearer of that body or as its appointed spokesperson. Such notices shall carry, at the end of the post, the author's full name, the name of the organisation they represent, and their position within that organisation as ACF Ratings Officer. I must have missed that too.

You can assume that those posts are made for the information of posters in an unofficial capacity.

ursogr8
22-01-2006, 05:37 PM
It is at the head of every forum so I assume you are reading by clicking "new posts" and missed it when first posted.
Quite possibly




I took the liberty of unasking him for you. : )
He has become derelict.




You can assume that those posts are made for the information of posters in an unofficial capacity.
I have been weened off assumptions before asking for clarification.


Oh. And before I go...player (9), is seed #8; seems to fit your montonously decreasing filter mesh. Has 5.5 out of 7. Average of opponents seeding number = 41

regards, working my way through all the exceptions,
starter

arosar
22-01-2006, 06:53 PM
Round 8 pics are up.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/closetgrandmaster/

Apologies in advance for the slightly poorer quality of the R8 batch. Somebody played with my camera and changed the settings to a lower resolution!

AR