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Walden
14-04-2015, 01:16 PM
The North Island Championship is been held in Palmerston North it has been sometime since this has happened
the Manawatu Knights Chess Club is hoping for this to be a great event so the more players the better
the North Island event already has 2 juniors from other counties entered
Dai Wenzhi China & Hananke Calitz South Africa (just moved to NZ)
Also Entered at this stage is Mark Noble

The rapid has maybe New Zealands best player at the moment FM Ben Hague

Anyone wishing to enter should contact
Mark Noble
xn7223@paradise.net.nz
027 3382040
06 3237003

Walden
26-05-2015, 07:18 AM
North Island Championship
Mark Noble (FM) , Dai Wenzhi (China) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Nigel Cooper

North Island Rapid
James Burt , Ben Hague (FM) , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles

North Island Blitz
James Burt , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz

Walden
04-06-2015, 09:00 AM
North Island Championship
Mark Noble (FM) , Dai Wenzhi (China) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Nigel Cooper , Dan Dolejs , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund

North Island Rapid
James Burt , Ben Hague (FM) , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund

North Island Blitz
James Burt , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund

Walden
11-06-2015, 06:56 PM
North Island Championship
Mark Noble (FM) , Dai Wenzhi (China) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Nigel Cooper , Dan Dolejs , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Barry Hooton , Oliver Picken

North Island Rapid
Ben Hague (FM) , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken

North Island Blitz
Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken

Adamski
11-06-2015, 07:09 PM
What are the dates, Mark, and is the club the current version of where Genesis Potini played and coached?

Walden
11-06-2015, 07:27 PM
What are the dates, Mark, and is the club the current version of where Genesis Potini played and coached?

This is the Manawatu Knights chess club (Palmerston North) running the event Genesis Potini was from Gisbourne

All details of the North Island and New Zealand Juniors are on the NZ Chess Fed web Site

Walden
15-06-2015, 10:41 AM
North Island Championship
Mark Noble (FM) , Dai Wenzhi (China) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Nigel Cooper , Dan Dolejs , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Barry Hooton , Oliver Picken

North Island Rapid
Ben Hague (FM) , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken , Al Hutchinson , Erik Cookson , Colin Albert , Paraone Luiten-Apirana

North Island Blitz
Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken

Walden
19-06-2015, 07:47 AM
North Island Championship 13 players to date
Mark Noble (FM) , Dai Wenzhi (China) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Nigel Cooper , Dan Dolejs , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Barry Hooton , Oliver Picken , Phillip Rossiter ,

North Island Rapid 13 players to date
Ben Hague (FM) , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken , Al Hutchinson , Erik Cookson , Colin Albert , Paraone Luiten-Apirana

North Island Blitz 6 players to date
Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken

Walden
25-06-2015, 12:18 PM
North Island Championship 13 players to date
Mark Noble (FM) , Dai Wenzhi (China) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Nigel Cooper , Dan Dolejs , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Barry Hooton , Oliver Picken , Phillip Rossiter ,

North Island Rapid 14 players to date
Ben Hague (FM) , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken , Al Hutchinson , Erik Cookson , Colin Albert , Paraone Luiten-Apirana
Jeremy Knowles ,

North Island Blitz 8 players to date
Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken , Dion Charles , Jeremy Knowles ,

Walden
29-06-2015, 02:55 AM
North Island Championship 15 players to date
Mark Noble (FM) , Dai Wenzhi (China) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Nigel Cooper , Dan Dolejs , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Barry Hooton , Oliver Picken , Phillip Rossiter ,
Kirill Polishchuk , Leighton Nicholls ,

North Island Rapid 16 players to date
Ben Hague (FM) , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken , Al Hutchinson , Erik Cookson , Colin Albert , Paraone Luiten-Apirana
Jeremy Knowles , Kirill Polishchuk , Leighton Nicholls ,

North Island Blitz 10 players to date
Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken , Dion Charles , Jeremy Knowles , Kirill Polishchuk , Leighton Nicholls ,

Walden
02-07-2015, 05:28 AM
North Island Championship 22 players to date
Mark Noble (FM) , Dai Wenzhi (China) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Nigel Cooper , Dan Dolejs , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Barry Hooton , Oliver Picken , Phillip Rossiter ,
Kirill Polishchuk , Leighton Nicholls , Kirill Polishchuk , Mathew King , Jack James , Ryan Hill , Martin Post , Wayne McDougall , Nathan McDougall , Euan McDougall ,

North Island Rapid 25 players to date
Ben Hague (FM) , Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Dion Charles , Sol Ross , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken , Al Hutchinson , Erik Cookson , Colin Albert , Paraone Luiten-Apirana
Jeremy Knowles , Kirill Polishchuk , Leighton Nicholls , KIrill Polishchuk , Alan Ansell , Malachi Hill , Jack James , Ryan Hill , Bob List , Scott Wastney , Wayne McDougall , Nathan McDougall , Euan McDougall ,

North Island Blitz 17 players to date
Mark Noble (FM) , Hananke Calitz , Timothy Nylund , Micah Nylund , Benjamin Nylund , Oliver Picken , Dion Charles , Jeremy Knowles , Kirill Polishchuk , Leighton Nicholls , Kirill Polishchuk , Alan Ansell ,
Jack James , Bob List , Scott Wastney , Wayne McDougall , Nathan McDougall , Euan McDougall ,

Qbert
08-07-2015, 10:58 AM
Any chance of some results or games being posted here?

Keong Ang
08-07-2015, 10:17 PM
Any chance of some results or games being posted here?

The newzealandchess website has been updated till round7.
http://www.newzealandchess.co.nz/Vega2015/wwwNthIsChamps/index.html

Will update whenever I receive the Vega tournament folder and files.
Would need to fit in with Oceania Zonal in Sydney's schedule since all NZCF technical personnel are there!

Adamski
09-07-2015, 10:00 AM
Good to see Dan Dolejs doing well. Remember him from years ago as a very sharp player! I recall an ultra-sharp Ruy Lopez Schliemann with Wellingtonian Peter Hawkes which was in NZ Chess magazine. BTW does Peter still play at all?

Walden
13-07-2015, 03:41 AM
http://www.newzealandchess.co.nz/Vega2015/wwwNthIsChamps/standing.html

Thebes
13-07-2015, 04:07 AM
Is the Wenzhi Dai kid living in NZ or?
He performed at a 1700 level at AESAN, but 2200 here.
Which ones more accurate? I know his rating is 1700 but so is my FIDE and I've never performed anywhere near 2200.

Adamski
13-07-2015, 08:47 AM
Wenzhi is definitely under-rated. But not for long!

Keong Ang
13-07-2015, 09:20 AM
Is the Wenzhi Dai kid living in NZ or?
He performed at a 1700 level at AESAN, but 2200 here.
Which ones more accurate? I know his rating is 1700 but so is my FIDE and I've never performed anywhere near 2200.
DAI, Wenzhi is a CHN kid who's on holiday in NZ. Tends to enter chess tournaments during travels.

He played at the ASEAN+ Age Groups in Singapore and scored 4/9 with performance rating around 1600 in the under14 open section.
His actual strength is around 1800 at best as he was quite an easy opponent when I observed him there. Most of his points were earned clambering out of the bottom boards. Nobody thought of him as a significant opponent and most see him as another developing junior who is working hard.

Quite surprising that he could win the North Island tournament. If he was a NZ Player, he would have been the North Island Champion, but that title percolates down to Mark Noble. On the face of it we'd wonder how Dai Wenzhi did so well when he was really expected to end up in the mid-pack. Whatever happened to the 10 others who were supposed to be better than him? There are at least 5 or 6 who should have defeated him easily. Maybe the conditions were just perfect for him. Perhaps he's one of those juniors who do well against adults. We would need to find out more from those who were there.

Would be interesting to see how the NZ Juniors turn out.

Keong Ang
13-07-2015, 09:25 AM
Wenzhi is definitely under-rated. But not for long!

His rating is about right as it is. His 9 opponents at the North Island have gifted him a 168 rating point rise.
If this continues, NZL would become the holiday destination of choice for CHN juniors!!
You'd think chess organisers should be getting some sponsorship from tourism operators here... ;)

Walden
14-07-2015, 05:17 AM
His rating is about right as it is. His 9 opponents at the North Island have gifted him a 168 rating point rise.
If this continues, NZL would become the holiday destination of choice for CHN juniors!!
You'd think chess organisers should be getting some sponsorship from tourism operators here... ;)

Yes he had some great results for me a quick draw in last round means North Island Champion so no need to win tourney and I still had blitz that night and us Old guys find playing hard all day :)
to his games in the tourney I know I was winning easy out of opening and just took wrong plans and got close to losing trying to win against him
but when we played Blitz there was only 1 player that could win that game :)

GinoTHEstud
14-07-2015, 03:40 PM
looks like the top players all under performed. Rating performances way below there ratings, but i guess this is normal with such a weak field and only 1 or 2 decent players.
The North island should never be ran outside of wellington or Auckland.

Qbert
14-07-2015, 06:48 PM
looks like the top players all under performed. Rating performances way below there ratings, but i guess this is normal with such a weak field and only 1 or 2 decent players.
The North island should never be ran outside of wellington or Auckland.
I disagree entirely - the weak field had more to do with the clash with the Zonal.

GinoTHEstud
15-07-2015, 04:53 AM
We had only two decent kiwis playing.

Is that considered a clash? Your also aussming those same players would have played
In the north island champs.

Walden
15-07-2015, 05:06 AM
looks like the top players all under performed. Rating performances way below there ratings, but i guess this is normal with such a weak field and only 1 or 2 decent players.
The North island should never be ran outside of wellington or Auckland.

Lets see Gino

2014 North Island Held in Auckland 20 players
2015 North Island Held in Palmerston North 24 players

easy to see Auckland should get it again looking at that

GinoTHEstud
15-07-2015, 06:19 AM
Let's go back more than just 1 year. Last year was equally disappointing.
Let's look at the numbers from the last 10 years to get an accurate view.

Qbert
15-07-2015, 11:35 AM
Let's go back more than just 1 year. Last year was equally disappointing.
Let's look at the numbers from the last 10 years to get an accurate view.

Year Location Total >2000
2015 Palmerston Nth 24 4
2014 Auckland 20 8
2013 Wellington 28 9
2012 Auckland 32 14
2011 Wellington 25 4
2010 Auckland 38 8
2009 Wellington 31 12
2008 Tauranga 21 2
2007 Auckland 54 5


Looks like a simple trend of declining numbers to me. Well done PN for matching recent numbers despite losing a few to the Zonal (many of those players have competed in the past and some zonal players are in the Junior in PN this week)
Confining NZCF tournaments to Auckland/Wellington would be a backward move.

Keong Ang
15-07-2015, 02:52 PM
Year Location Total >2000
2015 Palmerston Nth 24 4
2014 Auckland 20 8
2013 Wellington 28 9
2012 Auckland 32 14
2011 Wellington 25 4
2010 Auckland 38 8
2009 Wellington 31 12
2008 Tauranga 21 2
2007 Auckland 54 5


Looks like a simple trend of declining numbers to me. Well done PN for matching recent numbers despite losing a few to the Zonal (many of those players have competed in the past and some zonal players are in the Junior in PN this week)
Confining NZCF tournaments to Auckland/Wellington would be a backward move.

There are no plans to confine NZCF tournaments to anywhere.
Any NZCF member club can bid to hold an official NZCF tournament. Bids are then voted on at the AGM.
In recent years nobody seems to dare bid since it could be financially debilitating (the winning bidder is really the underwriter and takes on all the risk when the tournament inevitably loses money). Hence we are very appreciative of Mark bidding for it. Being the only bid at the AGM means it wins. Every other club conveniently let him take the burden (and the losses)!

Every club that runs NZCF tournaments at current participation levels would lose money. The reason why Auckland clubs tend to end up doing it is because they are more able to absorb the losses that go with it. Usually through having some club member (or parent of club member) make a substantial "donation". The feeling in Auckland has become one of "anywhere but Auckland" since it insulates the losses from running NZCF tournaments somewhere far away where requests for funding etc. can be easily ignored.

As for declining participation numbers, for Aucklanders, once the rent/mortgage and other living costs are paid, there's not much left to indulge in tournaments that are beyond commuting distance. It doesn't help that flying from Auckland to Palmerston North is more expensive than flying to Sydney! Plus driving becomes unthinkable due to snow. It also doesn't help that petrol is much cheaper in Sydney than anywhere in NZ. The reality is that for Aucklanders who are contemplating playing in tournaments outside Auckland, it is actually cheaper to play in Sydney or Melbourne (and maybe even Canberra) than somewhere like Palmerston North. :doh::rolleyes::hmm:

Capablanca-Fan
15-07-2015, 03:24 PM
True: the NI champs has a long an honourable tradition of being played in many different cities.

Craig_Hall
15-07-2015, 09:34 PM
The Island Champs (both Islands) should travel around - they are an important part of the NZ calendar, and are the main NZCF tournaments other than Congress. They also represent an important development opportunity for organisers, arbiters and players as the next step up from club weekenders. Confining them makes that harder to offer to everyone, which would not ideal for NZ chess IMO.

Besides which, if a club plans well in advance, they can get some quotes for suitable venues and then apply for funding through local gambling trusts (e.g. Lion Foundation) to cover the venue cost (and anything else they want to cover), which should make it reasonable. 25-30 people doesn't require a particularly big playing area (50-60m2 + separate analysis room + kitchen/toilets is plenty).

I have to say that it's a lot easier with a bit of sponsorship and/or the hosting club owning their own venue, but an important part of hosting these things is not overdoing the venue and budgeting the prize fund appropriately, and not over-promising. Given that both Island Championships are Poison Pawn GP class 1 events regardless of prize fund, and given most people don't appear to attend based on prize fund (being able to take the leave and from work and afford the cost of accommodation etc seem to be the main criteria for attendance and travel), there's no need to stretch the prize fund beyond the ability of the club to safely pay it. By all means scale prizes up if numbers allow, and allow for a small loss for the sake of hosting the event, but there's no need to lose stacks of money on them.