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peter_parr
11-07-2012, 01:23 PM
Fischer-Spassky 40 years ago today.

11th July 1972 game 1 of the match of the century started.

Game by game commentary was on channel 2 Australia wide with John Kellner,
Max Fuller and Peter Parr July-Sept 1972.

All chess shops world wide sold 100% of their goods

Front page news in all newspapers!

Chess Discount Sales and my Sydney Morning Herald column started a few months later.

Garrett
11-07-2012, 01:42 PM
I wish I was playing then, that would have been a fabulous match to follow !

machomortensen
11-07-2012, 03:06 PM
Thanks, PP.

It was interesting.

JGB
11-07-2012, 07:28 PM
To help relive the memory... Game 1.

Reykjavik
White: Boris Spassky
Black: Robert James Fischer
ECO E56


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. e3 O-O 6. Bd3 c5
7. O-O Nc6 8. a3 Ba5 9. Ne2 dxc4 10. Bxc4 Bb6 11. dxc5 Qxd1
12. Rxd1 Bxc5 13. b4 Be7 14. Bb2 Bd7 15. Rac1 Rfd8 16. Ned4
Nxd4 17. Nxd4 Ba4 18. Bb3 Bxb3 19. Nxb3 Rxd1+ 20. Rxd1 Rc8
21. Kf1 Kf8 22. Ke2 Ne4 23. Rc1 Rxc1 24. Bxc1 f6 25. Na5 Nd6
26. Kd3 Bd8 27. Nc4 Bc7 28. Nxd6 Bxd6 29. b5 Bxh2 30. g3 h5
31. Ke2 h4 32. Kf3 Ke7 33. Kg2 hxg3 34. fxg3 Bxg3 35. Kxg3 Kd6
36. a4 Kd5 37. Ba3 Ke4 38. Bc5 a6 39. b6 f5 40. Kh4 f4
41. exf4 Kxf4 42. Kh5 Kf5 43. Be3 Ke4 44. Bf2 Kf5 45. Bh4 e5
46. Bg5 e4 47. Be3 Kf6 48. Kg4 Ke5 49. Kg5 Kd5 50. Kf5 a5
51. Bf2 g5 52. Kxg5 Kc4 53. Kf5 Kb4 54. Kxe4 Kxa4 55. Kd5 Kb5
56. Kd6 1-0

ER
11-07-2012, 07:47 PM
To help relive the memory... Game 1.

Reykjavik
White: Boris Spassky
Black: Robert James Fischer
ECO E56


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. e3 O-O 6. Bd3 c5
7. O-O Nc6 8. a3 Ba5 9. Ne2 dxc4 10. Bxc4 Bb6 11. dxc5 Qxd1
12. Rxd1 Bxc5 13. b4 Be7 14. Bb2 Bd7 15. Rac1 Rfd8 16. Ned4
Nxd4 17. Nxd4 Ba4 18. Bb3 Bxb3 19. Nxb3 Rxd1+ 20. Rxd1 Rc8
21. Kf1 Kf8 22. Ke2 Ne4 23. Rc1 Rxc1 24. Bxc1 f6 25. Na5 Nd6
26. Kd3 Bd8 27. Nc4 Bc7 28. Nxd6 Bxd6 29. b5 Bxh2 30. g3 h5
31. Ke2 h4 32. Kf3 Ke7 33. Kg2 hxg3 34. fxg3 Bxg3 35. Kxg3 Kd6
36. a4 Kd5 37. Ba3 Ke4 38. Bc5 a6 39. b6 f5 40. Kh4 f4
41. exf4 Kxf4 42. Kh5 Kf5 43. Be3 Ke4 44. Bf2 Kf5 45. Bh4 e5
46. Bg5 e4 47. Be3 Kf6 48. Kg4 Ke5 49. Kg5 Kd5 50. Kf5 a5
51. Bf2 g5 52. Kxg5 Kc4 53. Kf5 Kb4 54. Kxe4 Kxa4 55. Kd5 Kb5
56. Kd6 1-0

Talking about Topalov blundering in a rapid game!


Was Bobby's 29 ... Bxh2 on of the worst moves ever played in a WC match?
Why did he continue playing for nearly 30 moves after the blunder?

Was Bobby's recovery after being 0-2 down to win the championship the greatest ever in chess history?

I know Kasparov and Korchnoi nearly made it vs Karpov after being down but didn't manage to pass the finish line first.

Did Spassky really have any chances to beat Fischer in that match?


The boys at Marshall Chess Club reckon that Boris and Anatoly had no chance in '72 and '75 with Bobby at his prime!

Kevin Bonham
11-07-2012, 09:46 PM
It's generally thought Fischer still could have held the position as late as move 39 although obviously the mistake made it difficult for him.


Was Bobby's recovery after being 0-2 down to win the championship the greatest ever in chess history?

I'd say not, especially given that he intentionally forfeited one of them. Steinitz was down 1-4 after five games against Zukertort (and went on to win by five points), Euwe was down by three after nine games against Alekhine, and Steinitz was two down against Chigorin needing to score 7/12 to stay in the match (a steeper assignment than Fischer's) in 1892.

Another notable comeback was Kasparov in 1984, from losing four of the first nine games to losing only one of the next 39 and winning three, an effort which while not winning him the match caused FIDE to terminate it. Had FIDE not terminated it, it's quite possible Kasparov would have won from four down. (We'll never know.)


The boys at Marshall Chess Club reckon that Boris and Anatoly had no chance in '72 and '75 with Bobby at his prime!

I don't know about that. Fischer won the match because Spassky was a good sport and made concessions to allow it to continue when he could have won it by default. Karpov would have had no such scruples at that time. Fischer may well have been the better player by some distance in 1975 but I believe he would have cracked. As it happens, he cracked in the ultimate way, by piking.

ER
12-07-2012, 09:09 AM
I'd say not, especially given that he intentionally forfeited one of them. Steinitz was down 1-4 after five games against Zukertort (and went on to win by five points), Euwe was down by three after nine games against Alekhine, and Steinitz was two down against Chigorin needing to score 7/12 to stay in the match (a steeper assignment than Fischer's) in 1892.

Far out! I better go and have a look in the history of those matches... Looks fascinating!


Another notable comeback was Kasparov in 1984, from losing four of the first nine games to losing only one of the next 39 and winning three, an effort which while not winning him the match caused FIDE to terminate it. Had FIDE not terminated it, it's quite possible Kasparov would have won from four down. (We'll never know.)

Yeah I mentioned that too, but I left it out because it's iffy!


•I know Kasparov and Korchnoi nearly made it vs Karpov after being down but didn't manage to pass the finish line first.

Ian Rout
12-07-2012, 01:35 PM
Why did he continue playing for nearly 30 moves after the blunder?
GM Jonathan Speelman in Analysing the Endgame (3rd edition 1997) devotes a chapter to this ending (pp 75-94) and claims a draw for Black by 37...a6 or later 39...e5.

Part of the reason it isn't so easy for White is that he has only three pawns of which one is the "wrong" Rook's pawn, so Black can often afford to give up his five pawns for the b and e-pawns.

Whether Speelman's analysis is the last word I don't know but if not then that in itself says something about the difficulty of the ending.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. e3 O-O 6. Bd3 c5 7. O-O Nc6 8. a3
Ba5 9. Ne2 dxc4 10. Bxc4 Bb6 11. dxc5 Qxd1 12. Rxd1 Bxc5 13. b4 Be7 14. Bb2 Bd7
15. Rac1 Rfd8 16. Ned4 Nxd4 17. Nxd4 Ba4 18. Bb3 Bxb3 19. Nxb3 Rxd1+ 20. Rxd1
Rc8 21. Kf1 Kf8 22. Ke2 Ne4 23. Rc1 Rxc1 24. Bxc1 f6 25. Na5 Nd6 26. Kd3 Bd8
27. Nc4 Bc7 28. Nxd6 Bxd6 29. b5 Bxh2 30. g3 h5 31. Ke2 h4 32. Kf3 Ke7 33. Kg2
hxg3 34. fxg3 Bxg3 35. Kxg3 Kd6 36. a4 Kd5 37. Ba3 Ke4 (37... a6) 38. Bc5 a6
39. b6 f5 (39... e5) 40. Kh4 f4 41. exf4 Kxf4 42. Kh5 Kf5 43. Be3 Ke4 44. Bf2
Kf5 45. Bh4 e5 46. Bg5 e4 47. Be3 Kf6 48. Kg4 Ke5 49. Kg5 Kd5 50. Kf5 a5 51.
Bf2 g5 52. Kxg5 Kc4 53. Kf5 Kb4 54. Kxe4 Kxa4 55. Kd5 Kb5 56. Kd6 1-0

ER
12-07-2012, 02:11 PM
GM Jonathan Speelman in Analysing the Endgame (3rd edition 1997) devotes a chapter to this ending (pp 75-94) and claims a draw for Black by 37...a6 or later 39...e5.

Part of the reason it isn't so easy for White is that he has only three pawns of which one is the "wrong" Rook's pawn, so Black can often afford to give up his five pawns for the b and e-pawns.

Whether Speelman's analysis is the last word I don't know but if not then that in itself says something about the difficulty of the ending.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. e3 O-O 6. Bd3 c5 7. O-O Nc6 8. a3
Ba5 9. Ne2 dxc4 10. Bxc4 Bb6 11. dxc5 Qxd1 12. Rxd1 Bxc5 13. b4 Be7 14. Bb2 Bd7
15. Rac1 Rfd8 16. Ned4 Nxd4 17. Nxd4 Ba4 18. Bb3 Bxb3 19. Nxb3 Rxd1+ 20. Rxd1
Rc8 21. Kf1 Kf8 22. Ke2 Ne4 23. Rc1 Rxc1 24. Bxc1 f6 25. Na5 Nd6 26. Kd3 Bd8
27. Nc4 Bc7 28. Nxd6 Bxd6 29. b5 Bxh2 30. g3 h5 31. Ke2 h4 32. Kf3 Ke7 33. Kg2
hxg3 34. fxg3 Bxg3 35. Kxg3 Kd6 36. a4 Kd5 37. Ba3 Ke4 (37... a6) 38. Bc5 a6
39. b6 f5 (39... e5) 40. Kh4 f4 41. exf4 Kxf4 42. Kh5 Kf5 43. Be3 Ke4 44. Bf2
Kf5 45. Bh4 e5 46. Bg5 e4 47. Be3 Kf6 48. Kg4 Ke5 49. Kg5 Kd5 50. Kf5 a5 51.
Bf2 g5 52. Kxg5 Kc4 53. Kf5 Kb4 54. Kxe4 Kxa4 55. Kd5 Kb5 56. Kd6 1-0

Thanks Ian, undoubtedly games such as the above prove on the one hand, that even players of that calibre aren't infallible and on the other hand, that their mistakes aren't easily exploitable!

So, Fischer's Bishop sac wasn't far from being justified but one has to congratulate Spassky for playing the right moves, exploiting an inaccuracy of his celebrated opponent and finally winning the point!

ElevatorEscapee
12-07-2012, 05:10 PM
Continuing on this theme, who can forget the remarkable ending in Game 2? :D

Reykjavik
White: Robert James Fischer
Black: Boris Spassky

0-1

ER
12-07-2012, 10:39 PM
Continuing on this theme, who can forget the remarkable ending in Game 2? :D

Reykjavik
White: Robert James Fischer
Black: Boris Spassky

0-1

I knew I 'd seen this position before but I wasn't sure! :P

Adamski
12-07-2012, 11:30 PM
Fischer-Spassky 40 years ago today.

11th July 1972 game 1 of the match of the century started.

Game by game commentary was on channel 2 Australia wide with John Kellner,
Max Fuller and Peter Parr July-Sept 1972.

All chess shops world wide sold 100% of their goods

Front page news in all newspapers!

Chess Discount Sales and my Sydney Morning Herald column started a few months later.Thanks for the reminder of those heady days for chess, Peter. I followed the match avidly at the time and afterwards read Gligoric"s and Evans' books on the match. It ignited my enthusiasm for the game.

Capablanca-Fan
13-07-2012, 06:55 AM
The boys at Marshall Chess Club reckon that Boris and Anatoly had no chance in '72 and '75 with Bobby at his prime!
Kasparov in his My Great Predecessors favours Karpov. He had defeated Spassky if anything even more convincingly, had a better style of preparation as opposed to Spassky's "clear head theory", and was younger than Fischer unlike almost all his previous opponents.

ER
13-07-2012, 10:04 AM
Kasparov in his My Great Predecessors favours Karpov. He had defeated Spassky if anything even more convincingly, had a better style of preparation as opposed to Spassky's "clear head theory", and was younger than Fischer unlike almost all his previous opponents.

another valid point, thanks Jono!

machomortensen
16-07-2012, 04:09 PM
I hope you will allow me to share a little story about Spassky...

I have been to the same tournaments as him e.g. in Clermont-Ferrand (F) 1989, "The Høstdans-tournament/Women versus Veterans" in Copenhagen (DK) 1997 and Gibraltar 2004 & 2006.

At the Høstdans-tournament one of days Spassky with black took a quick draw against Pia Cramling and went to the commentatorroom and helped the chiefcommentor Bent Larsen.

At first there were some plays on words between them:

BS: "I had prepared this line for Pia..."

BL: "I beg your pardon. Did you say that you prepare??"

BS: "Yeah... I was up very early..."

BL: "No no..."

etc.

Bent Larsen used to tell the audience that he didn't play in the tournament because he was much to strong for the women(!)

Btw., from that evening I know that Meri Grigorian Lyall took a lot of photos. Much later her father gave me one of them...

And now to my point... There was a tournamentprogram where I get all the players signatures. When I asked Spassky to write "Best wishes" he refused and said: "When I give you my autograph, "best wishes" is automatic included!"

Kerry Stead
17-07-2012, 08:55 AM
Game by game commentary was on channel 2 Australia wide with John Kellner,
Max Fuller and Peter Parr July-Sept 1972.
Is any footage of this still available somewhere? Would be very interesting to see if it is!

ER
21-07-2012, 10:05 PM
and the "was it?" "yes it was!" "no it wasn't!" saga continues! :)

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=8323

and if you haven't seen this lengthy doco forget about the language barrier and watch it! It contains some footage you 've seen and I bet some you haven't!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4KADFzzf7E&feature=youtu.be