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asterix
03-02-2012, 01:46 PM
Challenge Match
A four game match between Brazilian International Master Herman van Riemsdijk and leading NZ junior Luke Li will take place at the Auckland Chess Centre, 17 Cromwell Street, Mt Eden, on Saturday 4th and Sunday 5th of February. Rounds will be played at 9:30 am. and 2:00 pm. each day, with a time control of 60 minutes plus 30 seconds per move increment. Spectators are welcome.
Games will not be broadcast live but will be posted on Chess Chat as soon as possible after completion.

asterix
04-02-2012, 10:51 AM
Game 1 of the match between Luke Li and IM Herman van Riemsdijk was drawn after 57 moves.

Event: Auckland
Site: match ACC
Date: 2012.02.04
Round: 1
White: Li, Zuhao Luke
Black: Van Riemsdijk, Herman Claudius
Result: 1/2-1/2
ECO: E20
WhiteElo: 2165
BlackElo: 2401
PlyCount: 114
EventDate: 2012.02.??
EventType: match
EventRounds: 4
EventCountry: NZL
SourceDate: 2012.02.03

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Be7 6. e4 dxe4 7. fxe4 e5 8. d5
Bc5 9. Nf3 Bg4 10. Bd3 Nbd7 11. Qe2 c6 12. Bd2 O-O 13. O-O-O Bd4 14. h3 Bxf3
15. Qxf3 Qb6 16. Bc2 a5 17. Kb1 Ne8 18. Na4 Qa6 19. Bd3 Qa7 20. Bc3 Bxc3 21.
Nxc3 Nd6 22. dxc6 bxc6 23. Be2 Ne8 24. Qf5 Nef6 25. g4 Rab8 26. Rd2 Qe3 27. Rd3
Qb6 28. Na4 Qb7 29. b3 Rfe8 30. Rf1 Re7 31. g5 g6 32. Qf2 Nxe4 33. Qe3 f5 34.
Bf3 Nb6 35. Nxb6 Qxb6 36. Bxe4 Qxe3 37. Rxe3 fxe4 38. Kc2 Rf7 39. Rxf7 Kxf7 40.
Rxe4 Ke6 41. Kc3 Rf8 42. Re3 {(=)} Rf2 43. b4 a4 44. b5 c5 45. Rd3 Ra2 46. Rd5
Rxa3+ 47. Kc2 e4 48. Rxc5 e3 49. Rc8 e2 50. Kd2 Ra2+ 51. Ke1 Rb2 52. Ra8 Rb4
53. Kxe2 Rxc4 54. b6 Rb4 55. b7 Rxb7 56. Rxa4 {(=)} Kf5 57. h4 Rc7 1/2-1/2

asterix
04-02-2012, 03:19 PM
The second match game H van Riemsdijk - Luke Li ended in a forty move draw. At the end of the first day the score is level on 1-1 with two drawn games.

Event: Auckland
Site: match ACC
Event: Auckland
Site: match ACC
Date: 2012.02.04
Round: 2
White: Van Riemsdijk, Herman Claudius
Black: Li, Zuhao Luke
Result: 1/2-1/2
ECO: C14
WhiteElo: 2401
BlackElo: 2165
PlyCount: 80
EventDate: 2012.02.??
EventType: match
EventRounds: 4
EventCountry: NZL
SourceDate: 2012.02.03

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 h6 7. Qh5 g6 8. Bxe7
Qxe7 9. Qe2 a6 10. h5 g5 11. Nf3 c5 12. dxc5 Nc6 13. O-O-O Nxc5 14. Nh2 b5 15.
Ng4 b4 16. Nb1 Bb7 17. Nf6+ Kf8 18. Nd2 Qc7 19. Nf3 b3 20. cxb3 Ne4 21. Kb1
Nxe5 22. Nxe5 Nxf6 23. f3 Rc8 24. Nd3 Kg7 25. Qd2 e5 26. Nb4 a5 27. Nc2 d4 28.
Bd3 Rhe8 29. Rc1 Qb6 30. Na3 Nd5 31. Nc4 Qf6 32. Be4 a4 33. Na5 Ba8 34. bxa4
Qb6 35. Nc4 Qe6 36. Rhe1 Nc3+ 37. bxc3 Rxc4 38. cxd4 Bxe4+ 39. Rxe4 Qb6+ 40.
Ka1 Rxd4 1/2-1/2

Vlad
04-02-2012, 04:17 PM
Looks to me like, the master has no incentives to push hard... If say he was getting $500 for a win, $250 for a draw and $0 for a loss, we would see very different chess.

I have a similar problem when I play against my son. My rating is the same as Herman's while my son's rating is very similar to Luke's. I just can't get myself into the killing mood because I have no incetive to win. It is a bit easier for Herman because he is not playing against his son. However, the monetary incentives would provide additional incentives, which I believe are missing at the moment.

When young Gata Kamsky was playing against Russian masters, the rules were similar to the ones I mentioned above. If I am not mistaken, Max was trained using similar rules.:)

asterix
05-02-2012, 10:02 AM
Game 3 of the challenge match concluded with a win for IM van Riemsdijk playing black. He now leads the match 2-1 with one game to play. The fional game will start at 14:00.

Event: Auckland
Site: match ACC
Date: 2012.02.05
Round: 3
White: Li, Zuhao Luke
Black: Van Riemsdijk, Herman Claudius
Result: 0-1
ECO: E20
WhiteElo: 2165
BlackElo: 2401
PlyCount: 78
EventDate: 2012.02.??
EventType: match
EventRounds: 4
EventCountry: NZL
SourceDate: 2012.02.03

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Be7 6. e4 dxe4 7. fxe4 e5 8. d5
Bc5 9. Nf3 Bg4 10. h3 Bxf3 11. Qxf3 Nbd7 12. Bd3 c6 13. Bd2 O-O 14. O-O-O Ne8
15. h4 Bd4 16. Ne2 Qe7 17. Nxd4 exd4 18. Bf4 Ne5 19. Bxe5 Qxe5 20. Qf5 Qxf5 21.
exf5 Nf6 22. Be2 c5 23. Bf3 Rae8 24. Rhe1 {(=)} Rxe1 25. Rxe1 Re8 26. Rxe8+
Nxe8 27. b4 b6 28. Be4 Nd6 29. Bd3 Kf8 30. g4 f6 31. Kd2 Nf7 32. bxc5 bxc5 33.
Ke2 Ne5 34. g5 Ke7 35. g6 h5 36. Kd2 Ng4 37. Be2 Ne3 38. Bxh5 Nxf5 39. Ke2 Ng3+
0-1

Adamski
05-02-2012, 04:01 PM
Congrats to Herman for being sufficiently motivated to win to produce a victory.

Gotta say I can see where Vlad is coming from. At a much lower level I never like just beating up my own son. Rather, I give him some chances and see if he spots them.

asterix
05-02-2012, 04:44 PM
Herman van Riemsdijk won the fourth game of his match against Luke Li with white to take the match with a score of 3-1. IM van Riemsdijk won both games on day 2, but the match was hard fought overall. Promising junior Luke Li showed considerable resilience and resourcefulness against his very experienced opponent.

Event: Auckland
Site: match ACC
Date: 2012.02.05
Round: 4
White: Van Riemsdijk, Herman Claudius
Black: Li, Zuhao Luke
Result: 1-0
ECO: C10
WhiteElo: 2401
BlackElo: 2165
PlyCount: 103
EventDate: 2012.02.??
EventType: match
EventRounds: 4
EventCountry: NZL
SourceDate: 2012.02.03

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nbd7 6. Nf3 Be7 7. Nxf6+ Nxf6
8. Bd3 O-O 9. Qe2 c5 10. dxc5 Nd5 11. Bxe7 Qxe7 12. Qe4 Nf6 13. Qc4 Bd7 14. O-O
Rac8 15. b4 b6 16. Ne5 bxc5 17. b5 Qd6 18. Nxd7 Qxd7 19. a4 Rfd8 20. Rfd1 Qc7
21. Be2 e5 22. Bf3 Rd4 23. Rxd4 cxd4 24. Qxc7 Rxc7 25. Bc6 Nd7 26. a5 Kf8 27.
f4 f6 28. Bxd7 Rxd7 29. fxe5 fxe5 30. b6 Rb7 31. Rb1 axb6 32. Rxb6 Ra7 33. a6
Ke8 34. Kf2 e4 35. Re6+ Kf7 36. Rxe4 Rxa6 37. Rxd4 Kf6 38. Ke3 Ke5 39. Re4+ Kd5
40. Re7 Rh6 41. h3 Rg6 42. Kf2 h6 43. g4 Rc6 44. Rxg7 Rxc2+ 45. Kg3 Rc6 46. Kh4
Ke5 47. Kh5 Rc3 48. h4 Rh3 49. Rg6 Kf4 50. Rxh6 Kg3 51. Kg5 Rh1 52. Ra6 1-0

Desmond
05-02-2012, 05:13 PM
Are the games rated?

Vlad
05-02-2012, 08:13 PM
It looks like the first 2 games were dramatically different from the last 2 games. In the first 2 games the master was happy to play tactically and found that it may not be the best approach. In my view the best game played by Luke was the first game. Herman underestimated the white's play around move 33, which eventually lead to an equal ending. In the second game Herman got a considerable advantage and then blundered it away by 36 Re1?

In the second day he changed his approach, probably realizing that tactically the opponent is probably as strong as himself, and decided to just exchange to endgame. Especially striking was the fourth game where in a position around move 37 black had considerable drawing chances and collapsed in less than 10 moves. I think the lesson to learn for Luke is to study endgames. It reminds me how young James Morris was beaten by a number of 2300+ in the Australian Open in Manly 3 years ago.

Keong Ang
05-02-2012, 09:51 PM
Are the games rated?
Rated by whom?

If you're asking if the games are rated by FIDE, they are unlikely to be.

1. The match had not been registered.

FIDE Rating Regulations 0.4:
The tournaments to be rated must be pre-registered by the federation that will be responsible for the sending of results and rating fees. The tournament must be registered one month before the tournament starts. The Qualification Commission Chairman may refuse to register an event. Also he may allow an event to be rated which has been registered less than one month before the tournament starts.

2. Rate of play is too fast.

FIDE Rating Regulations 1.1:
For a game to be rated each player must have the following minimum periods in which to complete all the moves, assuming the game lasts 60 moves.
Where at least one of the players in the tournament has a rating 2200 or higher, each player must have a minimum of 120 minutes.
Where at least one of the players in the tournament has a rating 1600 or higher, each player must have a minimum of 90 minutes.
Where all the players in the tournament are rated below 1600, each player must have a minimum of 60 minutes.

Rate of play was 60 minutes with 30 seconds increment.
IM Herman van Riemsdijk has FIDE rating of 2401. Makes the match rate of play too fast for rating.

Capablanca-Fan
06-02-2012, 04:41 AM
It looks like the first 2 games were dramatically different from the last 2 games. In the first 2 games the master was happy to play tactically and found that it may not be the best approach. In my view the best game played by Luke was the first game. Herman underestimated the white's play around move 33, which eventually lead to an equal ending. In the second game Herman got a considerable advantage and then blundered it away by 36 Re1?

In the second day he changed his approach, probably realizing that tactically the opponent is probably as strong as himself, and decided to just exchange to endgame. Especially striking was the fourth game where in a position around move 37 black had considerable drawing chances and collapsed in less than 10 moves. I think the lesson to learn for Luke is to study endgames. It reminds me how young James Morris was beaten by a number of 2300+ in the Australian Open in Manly 3 years ago.
That seems about right. I think that Luke went wrong in the last game before move 37, since an extra outside passer should win in such rook endgames.

asterix
06-02-2012, 06:47 AM
Are the games rated?
The match was not rated.