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antichrist
19-10-2010, 04:33 PM
http://mjjhoskin.wordpress.com/2010/03/28/saint-of-the-week-thomas-cranmer/

Saint of the Week: Thomas Cranmer
28 03 2010
Cranmer was to be last week’s saint, since his memorial was on Wednesday, March 24. But I kept doing other things in the evening and reading systematic theology during my spare time at work.

Thomas Cranmer was born July 2, 1489, and was burned at the stake on March 21, 1556.On March 21, Cranmer was escorted to St. Mary’s Church where his public recantation was to take place. And there, Thomas Cranmer, like Latimer and Ridley before him, played the man, declaring, “And as for the Pope, I refuse him as Christ’s enemy and anti-Christ, with all his false doctrine. And as for the sacrament–” Here Cranmer was interrupted and taken away to be burned.As Cranmer burned, he thrust his right hand into the flames, holding there and saying, “This hand hath offended,” for that hand had signed his recantations. And so Thomas Cranmer, crafter of the Book of Common Prayer passed from this life to the next.


(could not see any copyright on this one)

Rincewind
19-10-2010, 05:36 PM
(could not see any copyright on this one)

Absence of a copyright notice is not equivalent to placing in the public domain. Even if it is in the public domain, as the story is available at the link there is no need to replicate it here.

antichrist
19-10-2010, 06:59 PM
you are welcome to but you cut out all the juicy parts including my alter-egos and I could not let you get away with that.

antichrist
11-12-2010, 04:40 PM
The Constantinopolitan Creed of AD 381

http://mjjhoskin.wordpress.com/classic-christian-texts/the-constantinopolitan-creed-of-ad-381/


My translation from the Greek of RPC Hanson, The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God, p. 877:

We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen;

and in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of god, begotten of the Father before all ages, light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father, through whom all things came to be;

......................
and in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the life-giver, who proceeds from the Father, who with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, who spoke through the prophets;
................Amen.

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Now RW's comment comes to mind, except for Unitarians, if God laughed it is equilivant of three people laughing, as the above tale seems to say that there is 3 gods yet claiming only one god. Maybe God is laughing at us for taking such rubbish seriously.

antichrist
27-12-2010, 06:18 PM
St. John the Apostle
Feastday: December 27
Patron of Asia Minor


St. John, Apostle and Evangelist (Feast day - December 27th)

St. John, the son of Zebedee, and the brother of St. James the Great, was called to be an Apostle by our Lord in the first year of His public ministry. He became the "beloved disciple" and the only one of the Twelve who did not forsake the Savior in the hour of His Passion. He stood faithfully at the cross when the Savior made him the guardian of His Mother. His later life was passed chiefly in Jerusalem and at Ephesus. He founded many churches in Asia Minor. He wrote the fourth Gospel, and three Epistles, and the Book of Revelation is also attributed to him. Brought to Rome, tradition relates that he was by order of Emperor Dometian cast into a cauldron of boiling oil but came forth unhurt and was banished to the island of Pathmos for a year.

He lived to an extreme old age, surviving all his fellow apostles, and died at Ephesus about the year 100.

St. John is called the Apostle of Charity, a virtue he had learned from his Divine Master, and which he constantly inculcated by word and example. The "beloved disciple" died at Ephesus, where a stately church was erected over his tomb. It was afterwards converted into a Mohammedan mosque.

John is credited with the authorship of three epistles and one Gospel, although many scholars believe that the final editing of the Gospel was done by others shortly after his death. He is also supposed by many to be the author of the book of Revelation, also called the Apocalypse, although this identification is less certain.

AC
Now this is amazing, he was supposed cast into a cauldron of boiling oil and came out in one piece - he would be a good candidate for USA water-boarding etc to see if they could crack him. They could send him on special missions where tight lips are essential

Now from Wiki: John the Apostle, (also known as the Apostle whom Jesus most loved or John the Beloved Disciple, (Ancient Greek: Ἰωάννης) (c. 6 - c. 100) - and from up above he lived to a extreme old age. When from wiki this was about 94 years old (less than my grandparents). Now this guy was a loyal saint yet he only lived to 94 YO, yet Noah was supposed to live to about 950 years old?
why could not this guy live the Biblical 900 years? There is a hole in the bucket Dear Jono Dear Jono

Now we also see that his church was converted into an Islamic mosque - how could Jesus let this happen to his only loyal saint? Not a very good look for Christianity I am agraid. Fancy those heretics getting the better of the One True Church!

antichrist
07-01-2011, 08:17 PM
St. Raymond of Pennafort, Patron Saint of Canonists (Feast day - January 7) Born in Spain, St. Raymond was a relative of the King of Aragon................
The brave religious of this Order devoted themselves to saving poor Christians captured by the Moors.

Once he went with King James to the Island of Majorca to preach about Jesus. King James was a man of great qualities, but he let himself be ruled by passions. There on the Island, too, he was giving bad example. The Saint commanded him to send the woman away. The King said he would, but he did not keep his promise. So St. Raymond decided to leave the Island. The King declared he would punish any ship captain who brought the Saint back to Barcelona. Putting all his trust in God, Saint Raymond spread his cloak upon the water, tied up one corner of it to a stick for a sail, made the Sign of the Cross, stepped onto the cloak, and sailed along for six hours until he reached Barcelona. This miracle moved the King. He was sorry for what he had done, and he became a true follower of St. Raymond. St. Raymond was one hundred years old at the time of his death.


AC
This guy was the first sail surfer - if he would have patented that design he would have made a fortune.

antichrist
14-06-2011, 05:39 PM
The Catholic Church wishes to apologise due to their having allocated no saint for today, so any nominees are welcome

Adamski
15-06-2011, 12:22 AM
As all Christians are saints I nominate myself.

Jonathan Adams (also a famous actor sometimes seen in Bones e.g.)

antichrist
15-06-2011, 12:45 AM
As all Christians are saints I nominate myself.

Jonathan Adams (also a famous actor sometimes seen in Bones e.g.)

I can't recall any non Catholics being made saints by the Church, maybe only Jesus, Mary and Joseph and the apostles except Peter, my namesake

Adamski
15-06-2011, 12:49 AM
For Protestants, a saint is any believer in Jesus Christ as Lord.
Good night / morning to any who read this thread!

antichrist
15-06-2011, 12:54 AM
For Protestants, a saint is any believer in Jesus Christ as Lord.
Good night / morning to any who read this thread!

All the RCC's saints (incl in post 9) are being declared posthumously so be careful what you ask for.

antichrist
26-12-2011, 10:20 PM
Who is St. Jude?
St. Jude Thaddeus is the patron saint of hope.

We turn to St. Jude in times of need and for serious or seemingly hopeless causes — including depression, grieving, unemployment, and illness — and ask for his divine intercession.

In accordance with his surname, Thaddeus (which means generous, courageous, kind), Our Lord said, “He will show himself most willing to give help.”

As difficult situations arise in your life you can always send your prayers and petitions to the altar of St. Jude at the National Shrine of St. Jude.

St. Jude is traditionally depicted carrying the image of Jesus in his hand. This represents the imprint of the divine Countenance that was entrusted to him by Jesus. We are confident that our invocation of our most powerful patron, St. Jude, lifts our petitions to the God who always loves us.

antichrist
02-01-2012, 11:43 PM
Kevin appears to have been more comfortable among fauna and flora than with humans, yet he developed such a devoted following that he was eventually compelled to found monastery at Glendalough in order to accommodate them.

antichrist
26-01-2012, 10:51 PM
Born at Lystra, Lycaenia, Timothy was the son of a Greek father and Eunice, a converted Jewess. He joined St. Paul when Paul preached at Lystra replacing Barnabas, and became Paul's close friend and confidant. Paul allowed him to be circumcised to placate the Jews, since he was the son of a Jewess, and he then accompanied Paul on his second missionary journey. When Paul was forced to flee Berea because of the enmity of the Jews there, Timothy remained, but after a time was sent to Thessalonica to report on the condition of the Christians there and to encourage them under persecution, a report that led to Paul's first letter to the Thessalonians when he joined Timothy at Corinth. Timothy and Erastus were sent to Macedonia in 58, went to Corinth to remind the Corinthians of Paul's teaching, and then accompanied Paul into Macedonia and Achaia. Timothy was probably with Paul when the Apostle was imprisoned at Caesarea and then Rome, and was himself imprisoned but then freed. According to tradition, he went to Ephesus, became its first bishop, and was stoned to death there when he opposed the pagan festival of Katagogian in honor of Diana. Paul wrote two letters to Timothy, one written about 65 from Macedonia and the second from Rome while he was in prison awaiting execution. His feast day is January 26.

Adamski
26-01-2012, 11:32 PM
Born at Lystra, Lycaenia, Timothy was the son of a Greek father and Eunice, a converted Jewess. He joined St. Paul when Paul preached at Lystra replacing Barnabas, and became Paul's close friend and confidant. Paul allowed him to be circumcised to placate the Jews, since he was the son of a Jewess, and he then accompanied Paul on his second missionary journey. When Paul was forced to flee Berea because of the enmity of the Jews there, Timothy remained, but after a time was sent to Thessalonica to report on the condition of the Christians there and to encourage them under persecution, a report that led to Paul's first letter to the Thessalonians when he joined Timothy at Corinth. Timothy and Erastus were sent to Macedonia in 58, went to Corinth to remind the Corinthians of Paul's teaching, and then accompanied Paul into Macedonia and Achaia. Timothy was probably with Paul when the Apostle was imprisoned at Caesarea and then Rome, and was himself imprisoned but then freed. According to tradition, he went to Ephesus, became its first bishop, and was stoned to death there when he opposed the pagan festival of Katagogian in honor of Diana. Paul wrote two letters to Timothy, one written about 65 from Macedonia and the second from Rome while he was in prison awaiting execution. His feast day is January 26.Thanks AC. Whether or not you are married - I saw the shoutbox late yesterday - I still did not know that Jan 26 was St Timothy day. I appreciate that increase of my knowledge. Good night / morning.

antichrist
27-01-2012, 10:17 AM
Thanks AC. Whether or not you are married - I saw the shoutbox late yesterday - I still did not know that Jan 26 was St Timothy day. I appreciate that increase of my knowledge. Good night / morning.

Adamski, Catholics are the real thing, not those silly Prodos like JOno hung up on the Bible, the Catholics were being there done that

Hobbes
27-02-2012, 09:40 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/st-kevin-took-the-winding-road-but-a-pilgrims-progress-is-rarely-smooth-20120226-1twlz.html

antichrist
05-03-2012, 10:10 AM
Pedro de Arbués


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Saint Pedro de Arbués




Depiction of Pedro de Arbués with the crown and palm of martyrdom.



Martyr



Born~1441

Died September 17, 1485
Zaragoza Cathedral, Zaragoza, Spain
Honored in Roman Catholic Church

Canonized 1867 by Pope Pius IX


Pedro de Arbués (c. 1441 – September 17, 1485) was an official of the Spanish Inquisition who was assassinated in the Zaragoza Cathedral in 1485 in an alleged plot by conversos and Jews. He was very quickly venerated as a saint by popular acclaim, and his death greatly assisted the Inquisition and its Inquisitor General, Tomás de Torquemada, in their campaign against heresy and crypto-Judaism.

Arbués was canonized by Pope Pius IX in 1867.


Contents
[hide] 1 Life
2 Veneration as a Saint
3 See also
4 References


[edit] Life

His father, a nobleman, was Antonio de Arbués, and his mother's name was Sancia Ruiz. He studied philosophy, probably at Huesca, but later went to Bologna, where in the Spanish college of St. Clement he was regarded as a model of learning and piety, and was graduated in theology and law. Returning to Spain he became a canon regular at Zaragoza, where he made his religious profession in 1474. About that time Ferdinand and Isabella had obtained from Pope Sixtus IV a papal bull to establish in their kingdom a tribunal for searching out heretics, and especially Jews who after having received baptism had relapsed openly or secretly into Judaism; these were known as Marranos. Torquemada, in 1483, was appointed grand inquisitor over Castile and named Arbués inquisitor provincial in the Kingdom of Aragon (1484).

On September 14, 1485, he was assassinated in the cathedral as he was praying while wearing a helmet and chain mail. This was the consequence of the bad reception that the Inquisition had in Aragón, where it was seen as an attack by the crown on the fueros, the local laws and privileges. In particular, it appears that some of the most powerful families among the converted Jews - such as the Sánchez, Montesa, Paternoy, and Santángel families - considered themselves favorite victims of the Inquisition, and were implicated in the assassination. As a consequence, there arose a popular movement against the Jews; "nine were finally executed in persona, in addition to two suicides, thirteen burnings at the stake, and four punished for complicity" according to the account of Jerónimo Zurita.

[edit] Veneration as a Saint

Desmond
15-01-2013, 08:39 PM
There's a Saint Basil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_of_Caesarea). Well I'll be a monkey's uncle!

Rincewind
15-01-2013, 09:35 PM
There's a Saint Basil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_of_Caesarea). Well I'll be a monkey's uncle!

There are around 5 or so Saint Basils, including St Basil, Fool for Christ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Fool_for_Christ) who has an iconic cathedral in Red Square dedicated to him.

antichrist
25-07-2013, 04:10 PM
John Boste was born in Westmorland around 1544. He studied at Queen's College, Oxford where he became a Fellow. He converted to Catholicism in 1576. He left England and was ordained a priest at Reims in 1581.

He returned as an active missionary priest to Northern England, often being accompanied by John Speed. He was betrayed to the authorities near Durham in 1593. Following his arrest he was taken to the Tower of London for interrogation. Returned to Durham he was condemned by the Assizes and hanged, drawn and quartered at nearby Dryburn on 24 July 1594. Boste denied that he was a traitor saying "My function is to invade souls, not to meddle in temporal invasions".

John Boste was beatified by Pope Pius XI in 1929. He was canonized by Pope Paul VI in 1970 as one of the Forty Martyrs of England and Wales. Their joint feast day is kept on 25 October. His memorial is kept on the day of his execution, 24 July.

from Wikipedia

well this guy went looking for trouble and found it, fancy putting one's life at risk for stupidity

antichrist
25-07-2013, 04:15 PM
Assize Records, 1559-1971

By 1559, from when the records of the Home Circuit only start to survive in quantity, the assize judges mainly dealt with the more serious criminal offences not normally handled by the local courts of Quarter Sessions. Offences dealt with range from homicide, infanticide, theft (stolen goods were often under-valued as worth less than 12d to avoid making it a capital offence), highway robbery, rape, assault, coining, forgery and witchcraft, to trespass, vagrancy, and recusancy.

AC
I wonder what you could purchase for 12d in those days, what is a "d" a pound?

Early English Currency, ... (d, for denarius or the Roman penny), ... Combining the Roman counting lesson with the currency abbreviations, ..

Rincewind
25-07-2013, 04:42 PM
AC
I wonder what you could purchase for 12d in those days, what is a "d" a pound?

Early English Currency, ... (d, for denarius or the Roman penny), ... Combining the Roman counting lesson with the currency abbreviations, ..

Did you never collect stamps as a child?

A stamp which is 12p refers to decimal pennies while 12d is in pre-decimal pennies. The first is 1/100th of a pound the other is 1/240th of a pound.

antichrist
25-07-2013, 06:14 PM
Did you never collect stamps as a child?

A stamp which is 12p refers to decimal pennies while 12d is in pre-decimal pennies. The first is 1/100th of a pound the other is 1/240th of a pound.
As a child money columns were headed pounds shillings and pence represented by the pound sign not on my keyboard the s and the P for pence. Not a D in sight

antichrist
25-07-2013, 06:17 PM
I wonder what they could buy for that 12D or shilling. I liked how they under valued the amount to save their life.

Rincewind
25-07-2013, 09:16 PM
As a child money columns were headed pounds shillings and pence represented by the pound sign not on my keyboard the s and the P for pence. Not a D in sight

I'm talking about British stamps like these...

http://www.greatbritainstamps.net/images/uploads/british_stamps_937.jpg

http://www.greatbritainstamps.net/images/uploads/sg725m.jpg

antichrist
25-07-2013, 11:51 PM
So that must be a decimal penny. I am amazed that Oz did not follow Mother Country in using D for pence in old days. I am still what one could buy for 12D to get killed for

Rincewind
26-07-2013, 01:42 AM
So that must be a decimal penny. I am amazed that Oz did not follow Mother Country in using D for pence in old days. I am still what one could buy for 12D to get killed for

We adopted decimal currency before the UK (1966) and went to dollars and cents and so the d/p distinction never came up.

antichrist
26-07-2013, 06:07 AM
We adopted decimal currency before the UK (1966) and went to dollars and cents and so the d/p distinction never came up.

but I am talking about pre decimal, how for a few hundred years Aust did not adopt the D for pence like the Poms had, we copied them on everything else, even still have their flag on ours

Rincewind
26-07-2013, 09:39 AM
but I am talking about pre decimal, how for a few hundred years Aust did not adopt the D for pence like the Poms had
http://www.stampsaustralia.com.au/products/images/1953QEII1dPurple.jpg

antichrist
26-07-2013, 10:16 AM
http://www.stampsaustralia.com.au/products/images/1953QEII1dPurple.jpg

her majesty is a pretty nice gal but doesn't have a lot to say

antichrist
26-07-2013, 10:24 AM
http://www.stampsaustralia.com.au/products/images/1953QEII1dPurple.jpg

I just checked with the brains and lo and behold it was the old LSD so to speak, we did use D for pence apparently

Rincewind
26-07-2013, 10:30 AM
I just checked with the brains and lo and behold it was the old LSD so to speak, we did use D for pence apparently

We'll we got there in the end. You just needed to find someone old enough to remember pre-decimal currency, but not so old that their memory is failing.

Hobbes
26-07-2013, 11:02 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/King_Charles_I_by_Antoon_van_Dyck.jpg/220px-King_Charles_I_by_Antoon_van_Dyck.jpg (http://philorthodox.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/saint-charles-stuart-i-king-and-martyr.html)

antichrist
26-07-2013, 11:47 AM
now HObbes how did he die, why did he die and who done him in?

Hobbes
26-07-2013, 11:55 AM
now HObbes how did he die, why did he die and who done him in?

Click the picture:


On Saturday 30th January 2010, we commemorate the 361st Anniversary of the Martyrdom of Saint Charles the First of England, King and Martyr, who died for the preservation of the Apostolic Ministry of Bishops, Priests and Deacons in the Ecclesia Anglicana and of the Liturgy of the Church of England, ensuring by the witness of his virtuous life and the shedding of his blood the perpetuation of the Anglican expression of the One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Because Saint Charles was willing to die for the sake of the Anglican Church, the Church retained her Catholic constitution and her Apostolic Succession and did not lapse into protestant sectarianism.

antichrist
26-07-2013, 01:17 PM
Who done him? Were they prodo fanatics? U tell me. How did they do it? I had already read that. Was he a frustrated Catholic??

Rincewind
26-07-2013, 03:24 PM
Who done him? Were they prodo fanatics? U tell me. How did they do it? I had already read that. Was he a frustrated Catholic??

From memory the headsman identity was never known with certainty. The officers in charge of the execution were themselves executed after the restoration. It's not good policy to have too many subjects running around with a taste for regicide.