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CameronD
29-12-2009, 06:42 AM
I think this forum would be better without antichrist and his attacks on individuals on this site. Wouldn't be surprised if theres a defamation suit one day due to him.

antichrist
29-12-2009, 07:14 AM
I think you are just using defamation as an excuse. How many posts have had to be deleted due to defamation? I may have mentioned people in jest, only one I can think of that may have had a case, but it would have been a ridiculous case and I have known that person for years and he has volunteered to help me in real life. And again it was done in jest and that person would have instantly realised it. I even immediately sent it to him.

You must respect freedom of speech, even if you dont like what people say. My whole life I have detested pollution but have had to watch people drive cars completely unnecessarily and wrecking our precious planet - how do you think that I feel about that. I detest Sprouty's style of posts, but I don't call for him to be banned - just moderated so not so many. That is life.

What some people find irritating other people find colourful and appreciate it.

Desmond
29-12-2009, 07:23 AM
Suggest merging this with the "Moderation:... Completely pointless whinging" thread.

antichrist
29-12-2009, 07:31 AM
Suggest merging this with the "Moderation:... Completely pointless whinging" thread.

I have complained before that it is misnamed because that is considered "pointless whingeing" is not allowed and barrable offense.

As well this topic is completely off-topic in chess section - something that I would punished for. Different standards seem to apply to different posters.

People should realise that we all make mistakes and when there are so many rules it is easy to do.

Trent Parker
29-12-2009, 07:36 AM
As well this topic is completely off-topic in chess section - something that I would punished for. Different standards seem to apply to different posters.


This one time I agree with Antichrist..... this is a section about chess in general.... will move to feedback section.

{EDIT: was in General Chess now in Feedback.}

antichrist
29-12-2009, 07:49 AM
In my defense I have set up Trollers Delite where I am being colourful which is my personality, so to keep possible trolls out of threads, but that thread was deleted. At least I tried not to irritate people who may not like it.

Basil
29-12-2009, 08:12 AM
I voted no, but believe that the vast majority of AC's moderation queries should/ could be deleted at will with any correspondence being entered into.

Garvinator
29-12-2009, 09:50 AM
I want to vote early and often, can I?

Garrett
29-12-2009, 09:59 AM
I voted no, but believe that the vast majority of AC's moderation queries should/ could be deleted at will with any correspondence being entered into.

Maybe his account could be rigged to automatically delete posts 5 minutes after they're posted.

That way he gets his jollies and the rest of us don't have to read all the crap.

antichrist
29-12-2009, 01:10 PM
I think this forum would be better without antichrist and his attacks on individuals on this site. Wouldn't be surprised if theres a defamation suit one day due to him.

Hey I remember, it was not long ago that I was trying to get possibly defamo posts on Zochat about Bill and KB being deleted - no one else was doing the Bob Hawke hard yards - putting my head on the block for fellow man I was

Spiny Norman
29-12-2009, 04:08 PM
You must respect freedom of speech, even if you dont like what people say.
Are you trying to make a moral argument? On what grounds should any other person be bound to observe your rules?

Then you can explain why, although you seem to have no compunction about flouting this board's rules, we should nevertheless allow you this so-called freedom of speech.

You can also try explaining how your freedom of speech is being abrogated, when you are completely free to go and exercise it in any number of other places.

Just don't bother posting your responses here, because I won't be reading/listening ... :hand:

michael.mcguirk
29-12-2009, 04:27 PM
There is no freedom of speech on bullutin boards. Moderators can enforce whatever rules they want. Laws of defamation do not apply. At least in Australia.

Rincewind
29-12-2009, 05:45 PM
Laws of defamation do not apply. At least in Australia.

What is the foundation of this assertion?

antichrist
29-12-2009, 05:50 PM
If I was barred KB, RW and Bill would have go to therapy lessons, they would have no one to bash up. I keep giving them a target as I feel sorry for them - have to feed their habit.



And may I add that Starter (winner of best post award) declared that arguably I am the most entertaining poster on chess sites in Australia

Kevin Bonham
29-12-2009, 06:07 PM
There is no freedom of speech on bullutin boards. Moderators can enforce whatever rules they want. Laws of defamation do not apply. At least in Australia.

Defamation law does apply to postings on forums, and indeed an Australian defamation case involving forums that I mentioned on this thread (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=4034) is still before the courts three years after it was lodged (it is being defended.)

That said, defamation is only rarely a problem with antichrist. If he got us into legal trouble it would more likely be under religious or ethnic vilification or harassment laws.

As for the free speech thing, you are right, as is TSK, while antichrist is being silly as usual. This board is privately owned and as such to the extent that speech is free here it is so at the discretion of the site owner, as implemented by the staff. There is a thread about all that here (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=4050).


I voted no, but believe that the vast majority of AC's moderation queries should/ could be deleted at will with any correspondence being entered into.

I am considering introducing something for him along the line of the referrals system used in a number of sports. AC could be allowed a maximum of, say, two completely meritless complaints about moderation per month and after that he would be banned from complaining for the rest of that month. :lol:

Kevin Bonham
29-12-2009, 06:14 PM
But I do enjoy bowling you all sort of swingers, googlies bouncers etc and seeing how you handle them

More like slow full tosses just outside off stump, and they all get hit for 6-6-6. :lol:

I see you were too slow deleting that one. Tsk.

Basil
29-12-2009, 06:17 PM
What is the foundation of this assertion?
Enjoy your wait! It's an incredible pluck and has no foundation at all!

Mischa
29-12-2009, 06:41 PM
No one should be permanently banned
I thought we lived in a democracy

Basil
29-12-2009, 06:42 PM
No one should be permanently banned
I thought we lived in a democracy
The two ideas aren't mutually exclusive.

Kevin Bonham
29-12-2009, 06:50 PM
No one should be permanently banned
I thought we lived in a democracy

People are sometimes permanently imprisoned in democracies, in case you hadn't noticed. In some of them, people are even executed, though most of those are places like the USA that are 50 years behind the times in terms of a fair voting system and hence barely "democratic".

What we actually live in is a liberal democracy, which means a society that combines freedoms for individuals with voting that affects many issues, mostly through the indirect agency of the parliamentary system.

One of the liberal freedoms (at the moment) is being allowed to own your own forum, in which case you can ban whoever you like from it.

So Australia being a democracy (i) has nothing to do with whether people can be banned from here (ii) would not be an obstacle to doing so even if it did.

By the way I have exercised immeasurably more patience with your argument than it deserves. :P

antichrist
29-12-2009, 06:53 PM
http://news.stanford.edu/pr/97/970108prisonexp.html

would you draw a comparison with the STanford Uni Prison experiment?

Mischa
29-12-2009, 07:00 PM
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deanhogg
29-12-2009, 07:27 PM
No one should be permanently banned
I thought we lived in a democracy
If you don't excercise some constraint with some poster's eg, AC . You
might as well open floodgates and when doe's it stop ?. l'am great believer
in maintaining some standards not like farcical situation you have at
tool-box ,where anything goes and does'nt matter who you offend . AC
needs consider what is appropriate and what is not .lam glad to come to
forum that sets this out !

Kevin Bonham
29-12-2009, 07:52 PM
would you draw a comparison with the STanford Uni Prison experiment?

No, because I'm not a melodramatic hackneyed silly git.

I'm hoping this thread serves the useful purpose of opening your eyes to the fact (that you previously seemed to have some difficulty accepting) that there are a substantial minority of posters who want you given the boot for good.

Garvinator
29-12-2009, 08:24 PM
I'm hoping this thread serves the useful purpose of opening your eyes to the fact (that you previously seemed to have some difficulty accepting) that there are a substantial minority of posters who want you given the boot for good.I hope the admins also get some useful purpose of opening their eyes to this fact too.

Kevin Bonham
29-12-2009, 08:34 PM
I hope the admins also get some useful purpose of opening their eyes to this fact too.

We were already very well aware of it and I have been trying to tell him that for a while now when he complains that only the admins have issues with his posts. Of course, we are not driven by polls in making these decisions, and even if we were, the poll is running against permanently booting him at this stage.

The way the poll is currently running is, however, about what I would have expected.

Garvinator
29-12-2009, 09:15 PM
We were already very well aware of it and I have been trying to tell him that for a while now when he complains that only the admins have issues with his posts. Of course, we are not driven by polls in making these decisions, and even if we were, the poll is running against permanently booting him at this stage.

The way the poll is currently running is, however, about what I would have expected.I am not advocating any kind of moderation by poll type system, or that a poll should ever be one of the main factors in deciding how to discipline a poster who is judged by the admin team to have broken a site rule.

What I am directly saying is that by tolerating antichrist's behaviour and not applying increasing account suspensions for his continual breaches of site rules, the admins are being complicite in tolerating antichrist's behaviour and the effect it has on the rest of a board as a whole.

I would go so far as to say that the admin team is only slightly less responsible for antichrist's behaviour in most aspects than he is. How is he to really learn when he is enabled and indulged at almost every turn?

The admin team enables antichrist by continually indulging him by replying to his posts, to which gives him even more spotlight (no matter how much the rule abiding posters may dislike it). Only after a lengthy period of time does antichrist receive any kind of suspension, which is usually only a week or so.

The lesson antichrist learns is a simple one from the behaviour of the admin team:

1) I post something inflammatory
2) I get a reaction from the admin team, usually with replies to my posts, which means the attention is on him
3) There will be complaints, which is exactly what antichrist wants.
4) Maybe a one day or one week suspension will happen, but then I get to come back and complain some more.
5) All the while, the attention is on me and my posts are being highlighted.

There is certainly no sliding scale where his suspensions are increased in length based on the number of repeated offences, rather than the degree of single offence.

It is time to start increasing the length of suspensions based on the number of repeated offences, rather than the apparent way it is being decided now.

Antichrist has had wayyyy more chances than he deserves.

Garvinator
29-12-2009, 09:16 PM
Regarding the poll, I would have preferred it to be a public poll, so we can at least see if some of the votes are genuine ones and from regular posters/lurkers.

antichrist
29-12-2009, 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by antichrist
I like the second ass sounded like in ass donkey - how Sister Mary Michael taught us in 1959


GG
Well you are certainly an expert on being an ass.
__________________
A/C
I consider GG post here more offensive than most of mine and should not be tolerated as lead to flame wars.

If GG's perscription was followed in society eventually one would get hung for swearing at cops. [irrelevant analogy deleted-mod]

Kevin Bonham
29-12-2009, 09:47 PM
There is certainly no sliding scale where his suspensions are increased in length based on the number of repeated offences, rather than the degree of single offence.

It is time to start increasing the length of suspensions based on the number of repeated offences, rather than the apparent way it is being decided now.

We have become harsher on him over time, to the extent that there are quite a number of things he is now on zero-tolerance for, to the point that any instance of any of those things now gets him booted for one week minimum (sometimes more).

If he is as determined not to get the message as he appears then we will have to try somewhat longer bans.

antichrist
29-12-2009, 09:59 PM
when the surf is up and I don't check out for a few days then I found that I have been barred. Only a minimum explanation is given and often I have no idea for what post it was for. As I don't worry about what I don't know about I just ignore it.

I consider other posters go off topic just as much as myself but dont get penalised. I consider other posters ruder than myself but don't get penalised. I consider analogies an advantage and interesting but is not seen so here.

I don't think there is strong oppositon to analogies except by KB? So it is an unfair personal gripe

Kevin Bonham
29-12-2009, 10:11 PM
when the surf is up and I don't check out for a few days then I found that I have been barred. Only a minimum explanation is given and often I have no idea for what post it was for.

That is probably because you write so many ban-worthy posts.


I consider other posters go off topic just as much as myself but dont get penalised.

I consider that you are incorrect, and probably confusing thread-drift with your often blatant thread-jacking.


I don't think there is strong oppositon to analogies except by KB?

I am certainly not the only one who got sick of you trashing threads (or trying to) with religious trolling and Israel/Palestine rubbish.

antichrist
29-12-2009, 10:22 PM
Quote:
I don't think there is strong oppositon to analogies except by KB?

KB
I am certainly not the only one who got sick of you trashing threads (or trying to) with religious trolling and Israel/Palestine rubbish.
__________________
A/C


But that has not happened for ages. For example the last example that you deleted just above was relevant in many aspects and helped proved the point. But you chose to delete it. I doubt anyone would have complained about it or if did so would not strong grounds to stand on.

Why I do ignore some posters complaints because they appear to me to be the boring ones, how many classic posts do they have under their name, how many interesting threads do they have to their name??? They provide no entertainment and would not know how to in a fit. They only know how to use emoticons, whatever they are and to type lol - no wonder they dont have women
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But in the spirit of comprise I will try esp hard to take notice of your post 26 of this thread and you allow maybe one or two trangresses a week - I cant be perfect and don't want to try. We can call it a draw and lock the thread (while I am ahead). I do show respect for authority in that I never considered a hydra.

In closing we should thank CameronD for proving today's entertainment

Garvinator
30-12-2009, 10:32 PM
antichrist banned for a week for a post containing profane and sexual content on the main board (and for dedicating same post to a poster who is legally a minor, although he was not abusing that poster at all, far from it).

Additionally antichrist receives a 24-day suspended ban which will be added automatically to any further ban he receives in the next three months, or imposed if at any time in the next three months he creates too much work for the moderators by posting too many rubbish posts that in our view require deletion.

I would like to remind all posters that the deliberate evasion of the swearing filter is not permitted for any reason.Oh dear, how will I ever get over this result :lol:

Adamski
31-12-2009, 08:07 AM
So surprise, surprise AC begins 2010 as a banned poster.
But I have to end 2009 as a paid employee at work so bye from me for now!

Tony Dowden
31-12-2009, 01:04 PM
Why is this an issue?

Adamski
31-12-2009, 01:49 PM
Why is this an issue?Ask your mate, Kevin! I think AC makes KB's life a misery sometimes!

ElevatorEscapee
31-12-2009, 05:39 PM
Author's note/Disclaimer: this post is not meant as either a "potshot" at anyone, nor an "argument starter". The below reminiscence is not about equating a/c's treatment by the mods as to that of persecution, nor do I suggest that his "human rights" have been in any way transgressed. Actually I think they have been rather reasonable with him over the long term. If you feel the need to argue a point, please feel free to be my guest by posting in kind... do not, however, expect me to reply. ~ EE :)

I voted "no" on principal. After all, if A/C goes, then there is little to distract the attention of certain people from trying to ban me! ;)

I am reminded of that famous Poem from Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984), which I have always found rather poignant.

It is in regard to the lack of the German people in "speaking out" against the transgressions of human rights of the National Socialist (Nazi) party in the 1930s and 1940s.


First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Having said that, I would rejoice in the day that aniticrhist starts "speaking out" for the Jewish people! :)

Kevin Bonham
31-12-2009, 06:09 PM
Ask your mate, Kevin! I think AC makes KB's life a misery sometimes!

I think Tony could be asking the question from the opposite direction.

Funny thing about EE's reference to the Niemöller "poem" (?) is that we don't persecute anyone here for their political opinions - those who get banned here get banned for bad behaviour not bad politics.

Actually most of those banned have been lefties or indeterminate. Despite being centre-left on average I don't think I've banned anyone here who is recognisably and clearly right-wing.

Garvinator
31-12-2009, 06:16 PM
those who get banned here get banned for bad behaviour not bad politics.some might argue that bad politics is bad behaviour ;)

Basil
31-12-2009, 08:26 PM
Actually most of those banned have been lefties or indeterminate. Despite being centre-left on average I don't think I've banned anyone here who is recognisably and clearly right-wing.

:lol: :D No reason for this to have tickled my funny bone - it just did! Carry on!

Tony Dowden
01-01-2010, 12:41 PM
I think Tony could be asking the question from the opposite direction.

Funny thing about EE's reference to the Niemöller "poem" (?) is that we don't persecute anyone here for their political opinions - those who get banned here get banned for bad behaviour not bad politics.

Actually most of those banned have been lefties or indeterminate. Despite being centre-left on average I don't think I've banned anyone here who is recognisably and clearly right-wing.

Hmm, trying to remember why I asked!

I suppose I mainly wonder why we keep offering a soapbox ...

antichrist
04-03-2010, 12:20 AM
I am not advocating any kind of moderation by poll type system, or that a poll should ever be one of the main factors in deciding how to discipline a poster who is judged by the admin team to have broken a site rule.

What I am directly saying is that by tolerating antichrist's behaviour and not applying increasing account suspensions for his continual breaches of site rules, the admins are being complicite in tolerating antichrist's behaviour and the effect it has on the rest of a board as a whole.

I would go so far as to say that the admin team is only slightly less responsible for antichrist's behaviour in most aspects than he is. How is he to really learn when he is enabled and indulged at almost every turn?

The admin team enables antichrist by continually indulging him by replying to his posts, to which gives him even more spotlight (no matter how much the rule abiding posters may dislike it). Only after a lengthy period of time does antichrist receive any kind of suspension, which is usually only a week or so.

The lesson antichrist learns is a simple one from the behaviour of the admin team:

1) I post something inflammatory
2) I get a reaction from the admin team, usually with replies to my posts, which means the attention is on him
3) There will be complaints, which is exactly what antichrist wants.
4) Maybe a one day or one week suspension will happen, but then I get to come back and complain some more.
5) All the while, the attention is on me and my posts are being highlighted.

There is certainly no sliding scale where his suspensions are increased in length based on the number of repeated offences, rather than the degree of single offence.

It is time to start increasing the length of suspensions based on the number of repeated offences, rather than the apparent way it is being decided now.

Antichrist has had wayyyy more chances than he deserves.

This is biggest heap of codswallop I have ever read. I post with no intentions whatsoever of mod action - only to stimulate and entertain myself and the board. But as everything in life there are at least two different reactions. Those with personality who can take a rib and go a step further and make life exciting - and those who sulk and want to strike entertainers down (they may be jealous they don't have humour and personality).

I appreciate people who can dish it out in return with cutting humour and wit - esp ones like Shirty and RW.

Garrett
04-03-2010, 05:43 AM
oh my goodness he's found the red pen.

who gave him the red pen ?

Igor_Goldenberg
04-03-2010, 08:41 AM
Could be off-topic, but it seems that ac gets much better treatment then axiom for far greater transgressions.

Kevin Bonham
04-03-2010, 11:09 AM
Could be off-topic, but it seems that ac gets much better treatment then axiom for far greater transgressions.

The difference is that whereas antichrist endures bans when they are imposed and does not seek to rort around them (though he does whinge a fair bit to try to get them reduced), Axiom persistently created new accounts and used (and in at least some cases hacked) accounts held by others to get around his bans. We have found that he started doing this almost as soon as he was first suspended from here.

It is that behaviour specifically that led to Axiom's bans escalating until he was eventually permanently banned. It is rather like Justice Einfeld ending up in prison for three years because he tried to lie his way out of a $77 speeding fine.

If we just let people start new accounts to get around bans then banning has no deterrent value.

Kevin Bonham
04-03-2010, 11:12 AM
oh my goodness he's found the red pen.

who gave him the red pen ?

I temporarily changed it to pink then changed it back again.

Next time I do this it might be less temporary. :lol:

Igor_Goldenberg
04-03-2010, 01:29 PM
The difference is that whereas antichrist endures bans when they are imposed and does not seek to rort around them (though he does whinge a fair bit to try to get them reduced), Axiom persistently created new accounts and used (and in at least some cases hacked) accounts held by others to get around his bans. We have found that he started doing this almost as soon as he was first suspended from here.

It is that behaviour specifically that led to Axiom's bans escalating until he was eventually permanently banned. It is rather like Justice Einfeld ending up in prison for three years because he tried to lie his way out of a $77 speeding fine.

If we just let people start new accounts to get around bans then banning has no deterrent value.
So you penalise mastery, skills and intelligence.

Kevin Bonham
04-03-2010, 02:38 PM
So you penalise mastery, skills and intelligence.

It does not take much of any of these things to persistently sign up hydras and most of them are lame attempts that we catch within hours or days.

As for the hacking (via simple password guessing in at least one case) we would apply the same sorts of penalties for failed hack attempts as for successful ones. The fact is that we have no evidence that antichrist has ever even attempted to rort around a ban.

CameronD
04-03-2010, 04:06 PM
I temporarily changed it to pink then changed it back again.

Next time I do this it might be less temporary. :lol:

You should permanently changed it to white

antichrist
04-03-2010, 08:13 PM
.............. The fact is that we have no evidence that antichrist has ever even attempted to rort around a ban.


Hear hear, so when GG accuses me of such when does not even seem like my post is a bit over the top.

I only post to entertain and provoke - if I was to do such under a hydra I would not last one post.

Plus I like to give the Mods a break.

Plus my computer skills are so poor I am sure I would stuff it before reaching the starting line.

Desmond
07-03-2010, 07:00 AM
Could be off-topic, but it seems that ac gets much better treatment then axiom for far greater transgressions.
Well Igor it will probably be cleaned up by the mod team before you come on, but Axiom has set up an account overnight and flooded the board with 17 spam messages. Do you miss him? I don't.

Rincewind
07-03-2010, 10:19 AM
Well Igor it will probably be cleaned up by the mod team before you come on, but Axiom has set up an account overnight and flooded the board with 17 spam messages. Do you miss him? I don't.

Yes, the spammer claimed to represent (among other things) the "Unban Axiom Coalition." I doubt such an organisation exists beyond Axiom's own vivid imagination. However, should such a group exist, then I could not think of a worse thing for them to organise. It is analogous to a group protesting for clemency for a death-row murder holding a protest by going on a killing spree.

antichrist
08-03-2010, 03:15 AM
RW, you are lucky that KB is more lenient towards you on analogies than towards me - definitely bias there. And on Zochat the mods can even bar the admin so you are lucky you are on home turf. Otherwise I love youse all.

Axiom is the type of freedom-type libertarian that I admire, not those right wing philosophial ones. I know where he is coming from because I have a bit of that in my blood as well - only I know how to control it and only bring out on my favourite topics. If I was in a life and death struggle Axiom would be the one I would choose to save me. But unfortunately he lacks commonsense and restraint when needed.

Rincewind
08-03-2010, 07:46 AM
But unfortunately he lacks commonsense and restraint when needed.

Totally unlike you of course. :rolleyes:

Desmond
08-03-2010, 08:46 AM
Yes, the spammer claimed to represent (among other things) the "Unban Axiom Coalition." I doubt such an organisation exists beyond Axiom's own vivid imagination. However, should such a group exist, then I could not think of a worse thing for them to organise. It is analogous to a group protesting for clemency for a death-row murder holding a protest by going on a killing spree.
He also sent me 2 PMs.

Rincewind
08-03-2010, 08:55 AM
He also sent me 2 PMs.

Two in the one event or two separate emails on subsequent occasions?

Desmond
08-03-2010, 10:23 AM
Two in the one event or two separate emails on subsequent occasions?
Not sure what you mean, but it was 2 from the same account yesterday if that answers the question.

Rincewind
08-03-2010, 04:00 PM
Not sure what you mean, but it was 2 from the same account yesterday if that answers the question.

It does, thanks. It was really just idle curiosity anyway. I received two but from different accounts.

Garvinator
03-02-2011, 12:27 PM
Sometimes in your life you receive good news, bad news, upsetting news and news that gives you great joy.

This fits in with the latter category.


antichrist was very explicitly warned both last year and in May this year not to post any discussion of religion or related matters outside the Religion and Science section without moderator approval in view of his track record of threadjacking arguments about religion onto other threads. It was made very clear he would be banned for two months if he continued doing it.

As he has breached this warning repeatedly he has been banned for two months, although I will consider reducing this ban to one month if he behaves himself in his postings elsewhere during this time.

^^^

Rinse and repeat. Persistent trolling of another poster who antichrist has been repeatedly warned not to troll also contributed to this latest ban.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co6WMzDOh1o

Now all I hope for is that his ban is longer than 2 months as he is a serial offender who has served time for this offence and is now at it again, so he deserves much more than two months.

Kevin Bonham
03-02-2011, 12:54 PM
It is just two months but I would not underestimate his ability to cause us to extend it. :lol:

Desmond
03-02-2011, 01:04 PM
It is just two months but I would not underestimate his ability to cause us to extend it. :lol:
I don't doubt that he deserved it, but I reckon the place lacks a certain je ne sais quoi when he's away.

Garvinator
03-02-2011, 02:13 PM
I don't doubt that he deserved it, but I reckon the place lacks a certain je ne sais quoi when he's away.
Fantastic isn't. That is je ne sais quoi that this board can do without :D and the board is better of without it.

Oepty
03-02-2011, 03:13 PM
Perhaps it is just me, or perhaps I am going mad, but I think the quality of AC posts has actually been better of late. Not saying I disagree with his banning, I am sure he deserved it.
Scott

Kevin Bonham
03-02-2011, 03:32 PM
I'd really rather not suspend AC. Unfortunately he is a continual nuisance to clean up after, and just doesn't seem to learn no matter how many times he is warned not to do particular things. We warn him and he is initially thankful for being warned rather than banned and seems like he is not going to do it again, then a few months later he has "forgotten" he was warned and is back to his previous tricks. Any ideas (that we haven't already tried) on how to cause him to actually get the message when warned would be welcome.

Max Illingworth
03-02-2011, 08:22 PM
Any ideas (that we haven't already tried) on how to cause him to actually get the message when warned would be welcome.

Change AC's console so that when he clicks 'Submit Reply' the following message appears:


Are you sure you want to submit this post?

I'm not sure whether the options should be 'Yes/No' or 'No/No'.

Rincewind
03-02-2011, 08:48 PM
I'm not sure whether the options should be 'Yes/No' or 'No/No'.

Maybe something like those joke dialogue boxes with Yes and No but when you move the mouse over the yes option that button moves away. :)

ChoiSeulKi
31-03-2011, 04:39 PM
Well, I think he is a good person ^^
He hasnt done anything wrong to me, Yet...
So, until that day, I think he should stay. :3

Garrett
21-07-2011, 12:51 PM
Melftixefly, I read all that and still don't know whether or not you think AC should be given the a*se

Rincewind
21-07-2011, 02:09 PM
Please note that Garrett is referring to the posts of a spammer who has been banned and whose posts have been removed.

antichrist
21-07-2011, 06:05 PM
I remember that thread in the old board ""should God be banned from the chessroom"" - just try the response was

Kaitlin
22-07-2011, 06:30 PM
old board ?
.. you mean before White boards :lol:
... were the backgounds green :rofl:

Kevin Bonham
22-07-2011, 06:57 PM
I think that was actually in the ACF Newsletter.

Metro
24-07-2011, 04:24 AM
I'd really rather not suspend AC. Unfortunately he is a continual nuisance to clean up after, and just doesn't seem to learn no matter how many times he is warned not to do particular things. We warn him and he is initially thankful for being warned rather than banned and seems like he is not going to do it again, then a few months later he has "forgotten" he was warned and is back to his previous tricks. Any ideas (that we haven't already tried) on how to cause him to actually get the message when warned would be welcome.
He is a recidivist and I think he is also an attention-seeker.I think he likes being cleaned up after.I think he may actually like being warned,penalised,berated and ridiculed.Why? He is gaining attention at the time.I think you are wasting your time with him.

Redmond Barry
24-07-2011, 01:58 PM
He is a recidivist and I think he is also an attention-seeker.I think he likes being cleaned up after.I think he may actually like being warned,penalised,berated and ridiculed.Why? He is gaining attention at the time.I think you are wasting your time with him.

yes, and when hes truly desperate for attention he starts up with the 'australians are racist' crap directed at whoever is around at the time.

the best solution is to flush the turd down the loo. i seriously cant understand why he continues to be allowed to roam free.

i think a/c and ax is a no brainer in regards to getting their marching orders.

antichrist
24-07-2011, 06:00 PM
yes, and when hes truly desperate for attention he starts up with the 'australians are racist' crap directed at whoever is around at the time.

.................................................. . i seriously cant understand why he continues to be allowed to roam free.

i think a/c and ax is a no brainer in regards to getting their marching orders.

It is amazing how yourself and .. (deliberately?) misrepresent my motives to attack me. There was a stated purpose for the racist tag and I dont detract from it. The racism could even be going the other way I have not bothered to consider it seriously.

Redmond Barry
24-07-2011, 08:44 PM
It is amazing how yourself and .. (deliberately?) misrepresent my motives to attack me. There was a stated purpose for the racist tag and I dont detract from it. The racism could even be going the other way I have not bothered to consider it seriously.

your motive as always is to antagonise anybody at any cost so as to gain the maximum amoun of attention you would otherwise not receive if you posted in a less abrasive manner.

surprise us all by developing a personality that doesnt induce mass loathing. it would surely be a change for the best.

antichrist
24-07-2011, 08:52 PM
your motive as always is to antagonise anybody at any cost so as to gain the maximum amoun of attention you would otherwise not receive if you posted in a less abrasive manner.

surprise us all by developing a personality that doesnt induce mass loathing. it would surely be a change for the best.

completely wrong, when I post to stir it is to make interesting or for laughs not to draw attention. Your charge is often made on other boards and it is equally opposed by the trolls themselves. I dont consider an abrasive manner, a baiting manner yes, otherwise the board would be very boring.

Redmond Barry
24-07-2011, 10:46 PM
completely wrong, when I post to stir it is to make interesting or for laughs not to draw attention. Your charge is often made on other boards and it is equally opposed by the trolls themselves. I dont consider an abrasive manner, a baiting manner yes, otherwise the board would be very boring.

i know this may come as a surprise, but unfortunately your not as interesting as you say you are. plus, your definition of humour includes running your mouth off supported by little to no evidence for the majority of the time. another epic fail on your behalf.

acting like an idiot and posting bereft notions is neither interesting nor humorous. you are just an annoying and pointless clown unable to control the compulsive need to post mindless waffle. if anybody is laughing because of your posts it is AT YOU, not with you.

the sooner you escape the clutches from this fantasy of yours that your interesting and humorous and not antagonistic and self absorbed, the better it will be for every body concerned.:hand:

try to 'not be you' for a change.

antichrist
25-07-2011, 10:54 AM
Before PaulS allocated sinister motives to me having the CBD chess club meet on Monday nights that happened to clash with Hakoah, he accused me of trying to sabatoge their club that were having some kind of accommodation problems at that time.

Well exactly opposite to his thinking I had actually rang of my friends at Hakoah and offered CBD chess club venue as their own to get them out of problems.

So this is how others can grossly and wrongly misinterpret my motives and intentions.

I have obviously upset you with Australia Day posting, well I am glad because that was my intention to shake the tree on behalf of Aborigines I have known for 40 years.

Redmond Barry
25-07-2011, 09:12 PM
Before PaulS allocated sinister motives to me having the CBD chess club meet on Monday nights that happened to clash with Hakoah, he accused me of trying to sabatoge their club that were having some kind of accommodation problems at that time.

Well exactly opposite to his thinking I had actually rang of my friends at Hakoah and offered CBD chess club venue as their own to get them out of problems.

So this is how others can grossly and wrongly misinterpret my motives and intentions.

I have obviously upset you with Australia Day posting, well I am glad because that was my intention to shake the tree on behalf of Aborigines I have known for 40 years.

try not to exist in the superego. the average toddler does it but soon grows out of it, and thats definately no excuse for you to still be acting like your the centre of the universe. unobjective opinions of storys i have no knowledge of involving people i have never encountered lend themselves towards your inability to escape the superego. just remember, the rest of the people walking this planet collate different experiences to you and they are definately not intimate with your own personal experiences . its not all about YOU !

you get constantly banned for being a complete dropkick, hijacks threads with mindless derailments wasting other posters time (other posters who have infinately more interesting things to say than you), your constantly referred to as an idiot and serial pest and you still keep coming back for more.

its no wonder so many people put you on 'ignore'.

antichrist
25-07-2011, 10:10 PM
try not to exist in the superego. the average toddler does it but soon grows out of it, and thats definately no excuse for you to still be acting like your the centre of the universe. unobjective opinions of storys i have no knowledge of involving people i have never encountered lend themselves towards your inability to escape the superego. just remember, the rest of the people walking this planet collate different experiences to you and they are definately not intimate with your own personal experiences . its not all about YOU !

you get constantly banned for being a complete dropkick, hijacks threads with mindless derailments wasting other posters time (other posters who have infinately more interesting things to say than you), your constantly referred to as an idiot and serial pest and you still keep coming back for more.

its no wonder so many people put you on 'ignore'.

I cant be bothered reading your posts anymore but you are welcome to keep posting

Redmond Barry
26-07-2011, 02:08 AM
I cant be bothered reading your posts anymore but you are welcome to keep posting

well thats nothing out of the ordinary for you. from what ive noticed meticulous scrutiny of other peoples posts isnt exactly your speciality.

though i must say what a relief it is i have your permission to keep posting. its sometimes forgotten how crucial it is to receive the blessings of the lowest common denominator. i suddenly feel invigorated.

Redmond Barry
26-07-2011, 02:39 AM
and to think you actually private messaged me a while ago to see if i would help you hassle sprouty out. i thought i was dreaming when i first read your little request.

which part of 'i dont like you and never will' have you not understood ?

a/c king of the nut hut !!

antichrist
27-07-2011, 11:29 PM
Lefties are certainly not a protected species like other minorities I get into trouble for having a go at

Hobbes
13-01-2012, 07:59 PM
He is a recidivist and I think he is also an attention-seeker.I think he likes being cleaned up after.I think he may actually like being warned,penalised,berated and ridiculed.Why? He is gaining attention at the time.I think you are wasting your time with him.

Metro, it is nice that recently you have apparently had a 180 degree turn, and now enjoy the AC fun and games :hmm:

Metro
15-01-2012, 09:37 PM
He is a recidivist and I think he is also an attention-seeker.I think he likes being cleaned up after.I think he may actually like being warned,penalised,berated and ridiculed.Why?

RW your lashes dont dissuade me coz I love the sting in their tail :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

antichrist
16-01-2012, 02:22 AM
very simple - I like excitement

Rincewind
16-01-2012, 07:46 AM
very simple - I like excitement

That is spelt "excrement".

antichrist
16-01-2012, 08:54 AM
That is spelt "excrement".

I am not quite that kinky yet

Rincewind
16-01-2012, 09:09 AM
I am not quite that kinky yet

I was talking about your propensity to fill your posts with it.

If you stuck to the facts then your post count would not get you into the coffee lounge. I suspect even being able to send PMs would be iffy for you.

antichrist
16-01-2012, 01:10 PM
I was talking about your propensity to fill your posts with it.

If you stuck to the facts then your post count would not get you into the coffee lounge. I suspect even being able to send PMs would be iffy for you.

now I know how you get into all those fights with Igor - don't you have him to harass anymore?

Rincewind
16-01-2012, 01:51 PM
now I know how you get into all those fights with Igor - don't you have him to harass anymore?

There are various people to harass. You just happen to be top of the list today. :D