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Jesper Norgaard
31-08-2009, 10:19 AM
Anyone for a corr game? I'll play black.

Zwischenzug
31-08-2009, 02:54 PM
Good luck Jesper.

1.c4

Jesper Norgaard
31-08-2009, 05:00 PM
Good luck Jesper.

Same to you, Zwischenzug
1.c4 c5

Zwischenzug
31-08-2009, 05:06 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3

Jesper Norgaard
31-08-2009, 07:00 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6

Zwischenzug
31-08-2009, 07:04 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3

Jesper Norgaard
31-08-2009, 07:11 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6

1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6

Hey, it ain't a Blitz game, Zwischenzug! :owned:

Zwischenzug
31-08-2009, 07:35 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3

Jesper Norgaard
01-09-2009, 06:40 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 ... if 5.Bg2 g6 double fianchetto

Zwischenzug
01-09-2009, 10:42 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3

Jesper Norgaard
01-09-2009, 11:10 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3
Hey wait a minute! You are playing my pieces! O wait, I think I like 6...Bg7 let's get on with it :lol:

1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0

1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0

Zwischenzug
01-09-2009, 01:11 PM
Sorry about that Jesper. I thought your "double fianchetto" comment was a conditional.

1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2

Jesper Norgaard
01-09-2009, 03:49 PM
Sorry about that Jesper. I thought your "double fianchetto" comment was a conditional.

Not really, but it was a good guess anyhow. The variation is called the double fianchetto variation of English because of Bb7 and Bg7, but there are of course plenty of other variations of other openings where you will see Bb7 and Bg7, this just happened to get that particular name attached. And I guess it could become quadruple fianchetto with Bg2 and Bb2, but I doubt the "quadruple fianchetto" name will stick.

On conditionals in corr, I usually avoid them unless they are like "if that move then that move". Countless corr games have finished after a naive black player after 1.d4 g6 has written "and against any move 2...Bg7" to save stamps, but then of course these games ended abruptly with the moves 2.Bh6 Bg7 3.Bxg7 1-0. Sneaky and mean!

It is at least 4 years since I played my last corr game. What time control should we be using? 3 days per move? I doubt we will have problems anyhow. But against your Qc2 I was surprised and have to think a bit more on my next move, sorry.

Zwischenzug
01-09-2009, 03:55 PM
No problems. Generally it is 7 days per move, but as this is a friendly game, that rule need not apply.

Jesper Norgaard
02-09-2009, 08:34 AM
Generally it is 7 days per move, but as this is a friendly game, that rule need not apply.

Yes but as you say that will hardly be a problem. Just curious about the rules. I wondered if a more modest setup with d6 and Nbd7 would be better, but in the end I settled with the perhaps most natural looking Nc6. Also e6 or directly d5 were candidates. Not sure how to play the position here.

1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6

1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6

Zwischenzug
02-09-2009, 09:22 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3

Jesper Norgaard
02-09-2009, 09:43 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6

Zwischenzug
02-09-2009, 10:25 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1

Jesper Norgaard
02-09-2009, 12:03 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5

Zwischenzug
02-09-2009, 01:27 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5

Jesper Norgaard
04-09-2009, 10:42 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7

Zwischenzug
04-09-2009, 12:51 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4

Jesper Norgaard
06-09-2009, 01:38 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4

I thought 12...d4 was also tempting, but in the end opted for opening up the center. If 13.dxc4 Nd4 (conditional).

Zwischenzug
06-09-2009, 03:02 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.cxd4 Nd4 14.Nxd4

Jesper Norgaard
06-09-2009, 03:46 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.cxd4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4

14...Qxd4?? 15.Tfd1 Qxc4 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Bf1 or 15...Qe5 16.Bf4 Qh5 17.e5 would of course not be fun for me

Zwischenzug
06-09-2009, 04:03 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1

Jesper Norgaard
06-09-2009, 05:18 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8

Zwischenzug
06-09-2009, 05:30 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2

Jesper Norgaard
06-09-2009, 05:38 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8

Zwischenzug
06-09-2009, 09:00 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3

Jesper Norgaard
07-09-2009, 04:23 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5

Zwischenzug
07-09-2009, 10:45 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.b5 Bd2

Jesper Norgaard
07-09-2009, 02:21 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6

A tough decision, and yes I agree that one of the ideas with Rc5 is b5 without you can play c5 followed by b4, but alas 18...Nd6 is my decision. Why do I mention b5? Because you had written 18.b5 Bd2 in the previous move ...

I still wonder if I should have played the more solid 17...e5 instead of this tactical madness. Here when you have said A, alas you have to say B and C :P

Zwischenzug
07-09-2009, 04:17 PM
Sorry about the typo. The actual moves are in the pgn viewer. Anyways....

1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3

With 17...e5, my idea would have been, bishop back and 19.f4. Or, even better, 18.Nc3 18.... 19.Nd5

Jesper Norgaard
08-09-2009, 12:30 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4

It turns out that 19...Bxe4 was not so good because of 20.Bxe4 Nxe4 21.Rxd4!? Bxd4 22.Qxe4 Rd8 (is there anything better?) 23.Nxd4 Qxd4 24.Qxd4 Rxd4 25.Be3.

I felt sure you would play 19.Nxd4. I did feel like the kid with a present in the hand, water comed hair, ready with the speach for the party, and being told that the birthday party was yesterday when you played 19.b3 - I had analyzed intensely the following in vain, except perhaps that making the analysis was fun. So here it is:

1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 {analysis} 19.Nxd4 Rxc4 20.Bc3 Bxe4! 21.Bxe4 Nxe4 22.Nf5! Qc7! 23.Nxg7 Nxc3 and we come to a crossroads, you can start with a true "zwischenzug" [24.Nxe6 which is answered by another "zwischenzug" 24...Nxb1 25.Nxc7 Rxc2 26.Nxa8 Rxb2 and I could not determine which moves were better from here, but black has a pawn and seemingly as many threats as white] but better seems 24.bxc3 Kxg7 25.Rbd1 and with the threat of Rd7 and doubling on the 7.th. rank I didn't find it easy to prove an advantage, for instance 25...Rac8 26.Rd7 Rxc3 27.Rxc7 Rxc2 28.Rxa7 and if defending against Rdd7 with 28...R8c7 29.Rxc7 Rxc7 30.Rb1 Rc6 31.Rb5 followed by a4-a5 and exchanging the pawn, the 4 vs. 3 pawns rook ending on the same flank must be a draw. Black can play better, but has something to prove


With 17...e5, my idea would have been, bishop back and 19.f4. Or, even better, 18.Nc3 18.... 19.Nd5
Although 18.Nc3 would lose a pawn to 18...Rxc4, this might still not be a compelling argument against 18.Nc3, after Qb3 and Nd5 with active play in the center for white. And white could also play b3 hoping for Nc3 later.

Zwischenzug
08-09-2009, 12:53 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4

Great analysis Jesper! I was worried about the safety of my queen (with a possible future Rxc4) and decided that my c4 pawn is more crucial than my e pawn (hence 19.b3). I originally had the plan of getting my dark squared bishop to b2 (with Rad1 first) but that was too slow. With your 19...Bxe4 line, I would have continued with play similar to the actual game continuation.

Jesper Norgaard
08-09-2009, 01:38 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7


Great analysis Jesper! I was worried about the safety of my queen (with a possible future Rxc4) and decided that my c4 pawn is more crucial than my e pawn (hence 19.b3). I originally had the plan of getting my dark squared bishop to b2 (with Rad1 first) but that was too slow. With your 19...Bxe4 line, I would have continued with play similar to the actual game continuation.
Thanks Zwischenzug! In my opinion concrete calculation is always better than trying to evaluate if a certain piece is in danger in a certain area - unless you calculate wrong of course. With the king it its different, it is always necessary to take safety measures to not have to crash and burn with a fleeing king with no escape.

Zwischenzug
08-09-2009, 01:45 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4

Jesper Norgaard
09-09-2009, 08:02 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 11:02 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1

Jesper Norgaard
09-09-2009, 01:38 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 01:45 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5

Jesper Norgaard
09-09-2009, 01:53 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 01:57 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7

if 24...Rxb7 25.Nc3

Jesper Norgaard
09-09-2009, 02:21 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5

Grin, :) it's actually the first time I guessed right on what you were going to play (the Nc3 idea) and in the end I decided - okay, let him have it. Time will tell if it was a good or bad idea to allow it.

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 02:31 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5

And the game gets quite difficult for me now! I'm starting to regret not taking your d pawn. Ideas of playing f4 to divert your e pawn is too slow.

Jesper Norgaard
09-09-2009, 02:48 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4



And the game gets quite difficult for me now! I'm starting to regret not taking your d pawn. Ideas of playing f4 to divert your e pawn is too slow.
Yes you could have tried 22.f4 instead to try to smash my center, but I would probably just play the solid 22...f6 followed by Bf8 at some point, a different type of game. Instead if I play 22...Nc5? then you really get everything you want after 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.fxe5 Bxe5 26.Nc3 with a splendid position if you get to play Nd5 - but wait, I was looking at the idea 26...dxc3 27.Rxd7 Rxd7 28.Rd1 Rd8 which might be winning for black because of the strong c3-pawn. But 26.Nc3 is not forced, you will still have good play despite the pawn deficit because my bishop is so lame here.

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 02:53 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2

Jesper Norgaard
09-09-2009, 03:01 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3

Couldn't resist those little lemmings running down the board! :whistle:

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 03:06 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 03:08 PM
26.Nd5 was better for me, with at least some way to blockade your pawn duo.

Jesper Norgaard
09-09-2009, 03:17 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8

I could no longer afford to allow Nd6!



26.Nd5 was better for me, with at least some way to blockade your pawn duo.
Yes but there is still fire in the kitchen after 26...e4 27.R3d2 Bh6 - if 28.f4 I will just play 28...d3 29.Qb1 Bg7 and return to the diagonal. But at least you have the strong Nd5 in place, so yes I agree with 26.Nd5 being better.

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 03:26 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3

Jesper Norgaard
09-09-2009, 03:34 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 03:36 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2

Zwischenzug
09-09-2009, 04:02 PM
if 30...Bxd2 31.Rxd2

Jesper Norgaard
10-09-2009, 01:20 AM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2 Bxd2 31.Rxd2 Qe5
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2 Bxd2 31.Rxd2 Qe5

I guess 30.Nc2 was the only liberating move, getting a strong Knight again, at the cost of the exchange ...

Zwischenzug
10-09-2009, 12:40 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2 Bxd2 31.Rxd2 Qe5 32.Ne3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2 Bxd2 31.Rxd2 Qe5 32.Ne3

Jesper Norgaard
10-09-2009, 03:53 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2 Bxd2 31.Rxd2 Qe5 32.Ne3 Qc3
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2 Bxd2 31.Rxd2 Qe5 32.Ne3 Qc3

Zwischenzug
10-09-2009, 03:58 PM
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2 Bxd2 31.Rxd2 Qe5 32.Ne3 Qc3 0-1
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1 d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4 cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8 16.Ne2 Ne8 17.Rd3 Rc5 18.Bd2 Nd6 19.b3 Nxe4 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5 e4 27.R3d2 d3 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2 Bxd2 31.Rxd2 Qe5 32.Ne3 Qc3 0-1

Well played Jesper! From here, everything just falls apart for me. The b3 pawn will drop and my rook and knight is preoccupied with holding up the pawn duo.

Jesper Norgaard
12-09-2009, 01:51 AM
A few comments on some of the moves ...
1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.d3 0-0 8.Qc2 Nc6 9.a3 e6 10.Rb1?! d5 11.Bg5 Qd7 12.e4 dxc4 13.dxc4 Nd4 14.Nxd4?! [14.Qd3! Rfd8 15.Rfd1 h6 16.Bf4= or 16.Bxf6] 14...cxd4 15.Rfd1 Rfc8! 16.Ne2 Ne8! {I was especially pleased with my Rfc8-Ne8-d6 maneuver, not at all obvious but strong} 17.Rd3? [17.b3 must be better] 17...Rc5!? 18.Bd2 Nd6! 19.b3?! Nxe4! -+ 20.Bb4 Rc7 21.a4 e5 22.Rbd1 Nc5 23.Bxc5 bxc5 24.Bxb7 Rxb7 25.Nc3 Qf5 26.Nb5?! e4! 27.R3d2 d3! 28.Qb1 Rd8 29.Na3 Bc3 30.Nc2 Bxd2 31.Rxd2 Qe5 32.Ne3 Qc3 0-1
The variations arising from 19.Nxd4! Rxc4 etc. are shown earlier, but it remains that white is in deep trouble and I think there might be improvements to black after 20.Bc3 Bxe4 21.Bxe4 Nxe4 22.Nf5 Qc7 23.Nxg7 Nxc3 24.bxc3!? Kxg7 25.Rbd1 perhaps 25...Qe5 instead of 25...Rac8 26.Rd7 Rxc3 26.Rxc7 Rxc2 27.Rxa7 R8c7?! (27...R8c5!? intending Rf5) 28.Rxc7 Rxc7 29.Rb1=+


Well played Jesper! From here, everything just falls apart for me. The b3 pawn will drop and my rook and knight is preoccupied with holding up the pawn duo.
Thank you for the game Zwischenzug, I thought you might be heading for a zugzwang instead of zwischenzug there :)