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    Paul morphy problem

    See how fast you can solve this puzzle. White to Mate in 2, image attached.

    Took me a couple of seconds to get the idea and 10 seconds in total to get the right answer.

    I know a couple of similar problems, will post it later.
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    Very easy but nice none the less

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trizza
    Very easy but nice none the less
    It is an asthetically pleasing but mostly inapplicable theme. I thought it was reasonably easy too but I think this is because I think I have seen it before. Also the lack of material on the board certainly helps find the solution.
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    I'm pretty sure I have it.

    Someone plz tell me if I got it right (below in white).

    Pawn captures pawn, then it captures the Bishop.

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    You were considerably faster than me, STML. I took a coupla minutes. I kept seeing ...a6 as a problem without seeing the obvious solution.

    I think I'm gunna change my handle from Dozy to Mijikai (in Japanese "mijikai ita ni mai" translates roughly as "two short planks".

    Buty thanks, it's a neat problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharoah
    I'm pretty sure I have it.

    Someone plz tell me if I got it right (below in white).
    Not quite, because after pawn takes pawn, the bishop moves away
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    I think that Pharaoh may be unfamiliar with chess problems and misinterpreted the instructions to mean that White makes two moves and mates, as opposed to normal rules apply and White mates on his second in any variation.

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    I thought that too.
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    Zugzwang is the solution
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    I thought that too.

    I was inclined to agree but, on further reflection, I believe the answer is "no".

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    O, I didn't know if black played back or not. Although I've played enough of those puzzles I should know that. Especially if he's in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharoah
    O, I didn't know if black played back or not. Although I've played enough of those puzzles I should know that. Especially if he's in check.
    pawn takes pawn as you said can lead to mate on the following move (1. bxa7 b5 2. axb8# (any promotion will do)

    However, Black's move is not forced and he can avoid mate by simply moving the bishop
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    pawn takes pawn as you said can lead to mate on the following move (1. bxa7 b5 2. axb8# (any promotion will do)

    However, Black's move is not forced and he can avoid mate by simply moving the bishop
    I may be a Grandmaster, or I may be a non-Grandmaster, but isn't the very obvious solution Ra6. Notice I didn't say Ra6! because to give an exclamation mark (!) to such a self evident move would be a mockery to the exclamation mark (!).

    The reasoning/analysis is as follows.

    You should immediately see that R x a7+ does not work because the Bishop is on b8. So, if the B moves, then it works.

    As such, if you move the Rook along the A file, Black must move his B and then R x a7 leads to mate!

    Or does it ?????? At this point you realise that a6 and a5 are candidate moves for Black.

    This is where you use what my fellow Grandmasters call 'double-mating power'.

    Seeing that b7 also mates, you give Black the option of the two, and Ra6 forces him to choose.

    I, personally, as a humble pacifist would offer Black a draw so that we could become friends and get along in a peaceful chess world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrogant-One
    I may be a Grandmaster, or I may be a non-Grandmaster, but isn't the very obvious solution Ra6.
    I didn't realise the answer was in doubt, and if it was so obvious why did you feel the need to explain it?
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    I didn't realise the answer was in doubt, and if it was so obvious why did you feel the need to explain it?
    Because I have decided, brielfly, to come down from the mountain to explain things to my fellow BB users.

    But thats it for today because I have to go now.

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