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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    Do you still maintain that his history research informed his conversion to Catholicism?
    I didn't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    He became a Catholic in 1999 and received his first history degree in 2003 and his PhD in 2006. Do you still maintain that his history research informed his conversion to Catholicism? I doubt much of the research for God's Philosophers (published in 2009) was performed prior to 1999.
    Where is your evidence? I was going by what he said in the article you posted!
    So let me see if I have this straight:
    • People are born male but can change to female.
    • People are born white but can change to black.
    • People are born homosexual but can never change.

    Makes perfect sense I guess …

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Where is your evidence?
    Which claim are you questioning?

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    I was going by what he said in the article you posted!
    Actually you read far too much into what Hannam wrote. This isn't on Hannam it's your claim when you wrote, "...his historical research came before he became a Catholic, and influenced him to join the church."

    That is is the claim that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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    I meant, what evidence for his conversion to Catholicism in 1999?

    I was going by:

    As a historian, the fact that the Catholic Church has been a net contributor to human wellbeing is so obvious that it amazes me that it can even be a subject for debate. This realisation was a factor in my deciding to join the Church in the first place.
    So let me see if I have this straight:
    • People are born male but can change to female.
    • People are born white but can change to black.
    • People are born homosexual but can never change.

    Makes perfect sense I guess …

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    I meant, what evidence for his conversion to Catholicism in 1999?
    I was going by:
    As a historian, the fact that the Catholic Church has been a net contributor to human wellbeing is so obvious that it amazes me that it can even be a subject for debate. This realisation was a factor in my deciding to join the Church in the first place.
    I think I see the problem. In his first sentence, he is speaking "as a historian" - in other words, he is using his historical studies, which happened after he became a Catholic, to support his choice. In his second sentence, he is speaking of a "realisation" that obviously occurred before he became a 'professional' historian, and so was presumably based on other people's research. Note that his reference to "join{ing} the Church" could also be describing the formal process of becoming an 'official' Catholic, rather than his conversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    I meant, what evidence for his conversion to Catholicism in 1999?
    His bio on Strange Notions where he is an author...

    http://strangenotions.com/author/james-hannam/


    About James Hannam

    James Hannam majored in physics at the University of Oxford and has a PhD in the History and Philosophy of Science from the University of Cambridge. His book, published as God’s Philosophers: How the Medieval World Laid the Foundations of Modern Science in the UK and The Genesis of Science: How the Christian Middle Ages Launched the Scientific Revolution in the US, was shortlisted for the book prizes of the Royal Society Science Book Prize and of the British Society for the History of Science. James was received into the Catholic Church in 1999 and lives in Kent, England with his wife and two children.
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    Thanks, PB and RW.
    So let me see if I have this straight:
    • People are born male but can change to female.
    • People are born white but can change to black.
    • People are born homosexual but can never change.

    Makes perfect sense I guess …

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