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    Quote Originally Posted by Igor_Goldenberg
    that's what it was ... it was the northern territory of south australia
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    Double and what about ACT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    Double and what about ACT?
    specially created around 1927 around canberra so that neither melbourne/victoria or sydney/nsw would have control over it

    well essentially that's the jist of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by eclectic
    specially created around 1927
    Don't mention special creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Don't mention special creation.
    sorry; i guess that would be jono's territory
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    Quote Originally Posted by eclectic
    that's what it was ... it was the northern territory of south australia
    Which certainly includes New Zealand when looked at with your eyes almost closed

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    Quote Originally Posted by eclectic
    specially created around 1927 around canberra so that neither melbourne/victoria or sydney/nsw would have control over it

    well essentially that's the jist of it
    True. South Australia at that time governed the NT and South Australian Laws applied there. Maps showed South Australia and the NT as one, though separately named.

    Canberra was chosen as the federal capital site in 1908, confirmed in 1909, after debate lasting for several years and proposals of many sites. It was formally named in 1913. There is a full and quite readable account of the whole process in Roger Pegrum's book "The Bush capital" Roger being a Canberra architect. In 1927 the Federal Parliament moved to Canberra from Melbourne where it had sat since Federation and the new, but temporary, Parliament House was opened by the Duke of York, later King George VI.

    As for ACT players having been lost overseas, there are really none as most strong ACT players have come here in the past from inter-State and then gone away again, not necessarily overseas, for instance Haydn Barber. The strongest player to come here in the past was no doubt Richard Brent who, at the age of 18, finished equal 3 - 5 behind Cecil Purdy and Doug Hamilton (equal 1) in the Australian Championship in Hobart in 1964 - 65. Richard was at the ANU for some years but played only locally and then spent quite some time as a Professor at Oxford University. He has now returned to Canberra but plays competitive chess only occasionally. As with Greg Hjorth, his academic life had to take precedence over chess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis_Jessop
    As for ACT players having been lost overseas, there are really none as most strong ACT players have come here in the past from inter-State and then gone away again, not necessarily overseas, for instance Haydn Barber. The strongest player to come here in the past was no doubt Richard Brent who, at the age of 18, finished equal 3 - 5 behind Cecil Purdy and Doug Hamilton (equal 1) in the Australian Championship in Hobart in 1964 - 65. Richard was at the ANU for some years but played only locally and then spent quite some time as a Professor at Oxford University. He has now returned to Canberra but plays competitive chess only occasionally. As with Greg Hjorth, his academic life had to take precedence over chess.

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    I thought the strongest player to come live in ACT is David Smerdon.
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    I just read in Chessbase that Bob Wade(87) died this morning.
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    Nz not going to ever be part of Aus!

    Re the alleged behind the scenes and unannounced annexure of NZ by Aus referred to by some, I guess that would have occurred last weekend before the league final. So Aus can still claim they are world champions of league (not). I do recall from my NZ history at uni that one NZ PM in the early twentieth century suggested NZ become part of Aus. He did not stay PM long. It will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Igor_Goldenberg
    I thought the strongest player to come live in ACT is David Smerdon.
    Without doubt, Igor, and Arianne isn't bad either; but I was speaking of the past, not the present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski
    Re the alleged behind the scenes and unannounced annexure of NZ by Aus referred to by some, I guess that would have occurred last weekend before the league final. So Aus can still claim they are world champions of league (not). I do recall from my NZ history at uni that one NZ PM in the early twentieth century suggested NZ become part of Aus. He did not stay PM long. It will never happen.
    It's amusing that before last Saturday you couldn't find a kiwi who gave two figs about the league. All of a sudden they're all mad keen fans.

    I've never been much of a league supporter (which I think I've made obvious with my comments about the State of Origin circus) last Saturday league game wasn't a blip on the radar as I was still celebrating knocking off the black caps at the 'Gabba.
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    Good on the ABs too

    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    It's amusing that before last Saturday you couldn't find a kiwi who gave two figs about the league. All of a sudden they're all mad keen fans.

    I've never been much of a league supporter (which I think I've made obvious with my comments about the State of Origin circus) last Saturday league game wasn't a blip on the radar as I was still celebrating knocking off the black caps at the 'Gabba.
    I'm not too disappointed that we are under the weather in the cricket series as I have just read:
    (a) The All Blacks completed the grand slam again by beating England convincingly. (For those who don't follow rugby union, this means we beat Eng, Scot, Ire and Wales - and all without conceding a try. This has put NZ back at the top of the world rankings, despite the fact that we are not world champions like in league.)
    (b) Also in rugby union, Wales upset Australia.
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    Sports generalist

    You could call me a generalist with my sport. I'll enjoy watching anything with a ball and anything with an NZ team playing. But the sport I have had the most personal involvement in is cricket, where for a number of years I was scorer for the University club in Dunedin, and before that my high school team. Other favorite sport to watch is soccer, as log as it's not nil - nil. Followed by the 2 variants of rugby. But I am no good in a playing sense at any sport with a ball. Indeed, my best participatory sport (sorry Cam, it is a sport) is chess. And as readers of this BB will know, I am pretty average at that (but with motivation to improve).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis_Jessop
    Without doubt, Igor, and Arianne isn't bad either; but I was speaking of the past, not the present.

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    Was anyone in the past stronger then Smerdon today?
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