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    2 18.18%
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    0 0%
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    1 9.09%
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    Tom Daschle: Democrats Bear Most of the Blame for the Filibuster Mayhem
    John Fund, National Review, 10 April 2017

    But that’s not quite the way Tom Daschle sees it. He was the Senate majority leader from 2001 to 2003. This weekend, Daschle admitted in a podcast with RealClearPolitics’ Carl Cannon that Democrats are more to blame than Republicans are for the destruction of “institutional pillars” in the Senate. He said that he finds the “situational ethics” surrounding Senate confirmations to be deeply troubling and destructive of the institution.

    Daschle appeared to chastise fellow Democrat Chuck Schumer, the current Democratic minority leader, for blaming only Republicans for the Senate’s hyper-partisanship. “Today is just amazing — the symmetry that exists between those who believe that it’s wrong today but to believe in doing it before,” Daschle told Cannon. “What I would fear the most is a lack of respect and appreciation of the institution itself.”

    Daschle wasn’t done. He went on to say:

    Unfortunately, Democrats have far dirtier hands when it comes to the erosion of the institutional pillars of the Senate than Republicans going all the way back. … The whole budget process was a Democratic product, and that was in my view a procedural disaster. Then we lowered the threshold from 67 to 60. That was a Democratic effort. And then in 2013, we took it away completely for nominations, and that was Democratic. So, Democrats who may lament this institutional deterioration, I think there’s a lot of history here that can’t be explained away.

    When he mentions the deterioration of the budget process, he appears to be criticizing Harry Reid, who as Senate majority leader under President Obama declined to ever pass a real federal budget. Instead, Reid chose to run the government by “continuing resolutions.”

    Of course, Daschle doesn’t have completely clean hands in all this. In 2003, when Daschle was the minority leader, Democrats mounted filibusters of several George W. Bush judicial nominations. Before then, no purely partisan filibusters of a potential judge had ever been mounted (the filibuster against LBJ appointee Abe Fortas in 1968 was bipartisan). Chief among the 2003 filibusters was the one against GOP lawyer Miguel Estrada for the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. Estrada, a Honduran immigrant, was opposed by Democrats, who admitted in a leaked memo that they feared Estrada would become the court’s first Hispanic judge appointed by Bush.
    “Conservatives these days are more geared to facts than emotions, and as individuals they seem to have a more ethical, perhaps sports-based sense of fair play.” — Camille Paglia
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    More Holocaust denial from the Trump administration:
    During what may have been his most embarrassing press briefing yet, Sean Spicer seemed to argue on Tuesday that Bashar al-Assad has surpassed Hitler in terms of pure evil. “You had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons,” Spicer said. Sure, the German dictator was a bad enough guy, but Assad has taken things a step further. This of course left out the small historical detail of the Holocaust. Spicer was given a chance to clarify his remarks, and struggled mightily to do so, becoming defensive. “I think when you come to Sarin gas—[Hitler] was not using the gas on his own people the same way Assad is doing,” Spicer babbled. “There was not—he brought them into the Holocaust centers, I understand that—in the way Assad where he went into towns, dropped them down into the middle of towns.” Got that?

    As if this wasn’t bad enough, Spicer’s repeated use of phrases such as “his own people” seemed to imply that—say—German Jews were not really German. The connections between this way of thinking—which was, by the way, how the Nazis thought—and the way that our current president defines who is and isn’t a true American are too obvious to list, even if the circumstances are vastly different. ...

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    Spicer was babbling and stupid, although not Holocaust denying. The real Holocaust deniers don't say "someone as despicable as Hitler". Conservatives are calling him out for his stupidity, but pointing out that his statements were not even coherent enough to qualify, Sean Spicer Steps in a Hitler Mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    The real Holocaust deniers don't say "someone as despicable as Hitler".
    That doesn't follow. There are holocaust deniers who claim Hitler was despicable but did kill as many Jews as documents because of reasons x, y, z. You're confusing Nazi apologist with holocaust denial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    That doesn't follow. There are holocaust deniers who claim Hitler was despicable but did kill as many Jews as documents because of reasons x, y, z. You're confusing Nazi apologist with holocaust denial.
    Normally a major reason that anyone thinks Hitler is despicable is precisely that he murdered 6 million Jews.
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    “A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.” — Milton Friedman

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    Sean Spicer To Deliver All Future Press Briefings With Mouth Duct Taped Shut
    Babylon Bee*, 12 April 2017

    WASHINGTON, D.C.—The White House confirmed Tuesday night that press secretary Sean Spicer will deliver all future press briefings with his mouth bound by at least one layer of industrial-grade duct tape.

    The new policy was reportedly instituted after a string of embarrassing gaffes committed by Spicer over the past several days, including a poorly thought-out comparison between Adolf Hitler and Bashar al-Assad and an apparent flub in which he stated that President Trump was attempting to “destabilize” the Middle East.

    A number of White House aides have been tasked with holding Spicer down before each public session as they firmly place the duct tape over his mouth until all parties are confident that no asinine comments or misrepresentations can possibly escape from his mouth and be understood by a member of the press.


    * The Babylon Bee is a Christian satire site.
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    Lol at the post above -but Sean's gaffes are still serious in view of his oh so public position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Normally a major reason that anyone thinks Hitler is despicable is precisely that he murdered 6 million Jews.
    It's certainly a big part of it for non-deniers but let's say you admitted he killed the mentally ill, the handicapped, the gypsies, the Rhineland people with African heritage etc and no Jewish people you would still have to conclude he was despicable, despite denying the Jewish holocaust.
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    Liberal Harvard Professor Rips Democratic Hypocrisy on Spicer
    Alan Dershowitz says media, DNC 'should not make politics' out of Hitler flub
    by Brendan Kirby | Updated 12 Apr 2017

    Alan Dershowitz, a famed Harvard law professor and progressive in good standing, lashed out at activists and Democratic Party officials who are trying to make political hay out of White House press secretary Sean Spicer’s Adolf Hitler gaffe.

    Spicer later went on CNN with anchor Wolf Blitzer to apologize.

    That wasn’t enough for critics, including Anne Frank Center Executive Director Steven Goldstein, who called it the “most evil slur upon a group of people we have ever heard from a White House press secretary” and called on President Donald Trump to fire him.

    Dershowitz blasted Goldstein.

    “He’s a total phony. There’s no such thing. It’s a minor institution,” he told CNN’s Don Lemon on Tuesday night. “It has no credibility within the Jewish community. He’s constantly trying to get headlines by overblowing everything. What happened here is the guy screwed up, and he apologized. He apologized from the heart. And I’m prepared to give him a pass on this.”
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    What is Steven Goldstein's connection to the DNC or indeed the DNC's connection to the Anne Frank Center? (SG has worked for Schumer and Jon Corzine but I think they were positions which lapsed some time ago).

    Regarding the DNC officials who have been critical of Spicer, most of that was immediately after the gaffe and before the apology. I think there is a strong argument that the number of gaffes in his short tenure as Press Secretary are sufficient evidence that a replacement should be sought and perhaps Trump is already considering that option. But it is certainly not unseemly from politicians to roast the guy after the performance he has put in just the last 2-3 months.
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    Trump doesn't even know what his own military is doing:

    An aircraft carrier which the US navy said was already steaming toward the Korean Peninsula amid rising tensions over North Korea’s nuclear weapons programme has not yet departed, a US defense official acknowledged Tuesday.

    The navy on 8 April said it was directing a naval strike group headed by the USS Carl Vinson supercarrier to “sail north”, as a “prudent measure” to deter North Korea. On 11 April, the defense secretary, Jim Mattis, said the Vinson was “on her way up” to the peninsula. Donald Trump the next day said: “We are sending an armada. Very powerful.”

    But a defense official told AFP Tuesday that the ships were still off the north-west coast of Australia. A navy photograph showed the Vinson off Java over the weekend.

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