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    What Is The Sole Denominator Of Religion

    Different religions claim different reasons why their religion is actually the right one. People from religion A believe that religion A is the right one and the best. And so do people from religion B and C etc. Can all religions be right? Because an insignificant % of people change from the religion they grew up in to another I sometimes wonder whether the sole denominator of one's religion is not one's parents. This thought has scary implications to the teachings of diverse religious leaders and the beliefs of many. Is it possible that we all believe in the same SUPREME ALMIGHTY?

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    Soul Denomination

    I presume you mean, as per Freud, The Father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flopreader
    Is it possible that we all believe in the same SUPREME ALMIGHTY?
    It depends what people have in mind as the object of their faith. The idea that just because people believe in a god, then they might all believe in the same god, seems wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flopreader
    Is it possible that we all believe in the same SUPREME ALMIGHTY?
    Many people don't believe in a supreme almighty so certainly not all. Of the theists it would appear the specifics of belief are so diverse that either there is a lot of noise in the message from the almighty to his creation or else the various almighties are essentially distinct. If they are essentially distinct and mutually exclusive (as many but not all are) then we are left with the option that many people are following a false religion.
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    The sole denominator of religious faith is their unfilled psychological needs, cutlural and family influences and as Einstein stated, childish superstition. The only interesting element in the whole debate is why do people need to believe in anything of a supernatural nature.

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    Spare us your psychobabble AC ...
    “As you perhaps know, I haven't always been a Christian. I didn't go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of port would do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I certainly don't recommend Christianity.” -- C.S.Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiny Norman
    Spare us your psychobabble AC ...
    Some people change religions like they change their underpants, it is only in the head. There is a tendency for men in their fifties and sixties, realising that their time is nearly up revolt about bulldust in their lives. They see religion as one of such and immediately and dramatically make a clean break from and become raving atheists. Even my mother become an atheist before dying, after a full and faithful life of religeous observation. She seen the bulldust for what it was.

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    the sole denominator of religion is having to stare into that void once death is upon us
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist
    Some people change religions like they change their underpants, it is only in the head. There is a tendency for men in their fifties and sixties, realising that their time is nearly up revolt about bulldust in their lives. They see religion as one of such and immediately and dramatically make a clean break from and become raving atheists.
    I am not sure, but this sounds like over simplifying a subject that is very close to the hearts of many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist
    There is a tendency for men in their fifties and sixties, realising that their time is nearly up revolt about bulldust in their lives. They see religion as one of such and immediately and dramatically make a clean break from and become raving atheists.
    I've heard the opposite, but your ilk would then claim that getting old made them soft in the head, and that realizing death was imminent made them wishfully think about the afterlife. Of course, none of this has any bearing on the truth or falsity of theistic or atheistic claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flopreader
    Because an insignificant % of people change from the religion they grew up in to another I sometimes wonder whether the sole denominator of one's religion is not one's parents.
    I'd be interested to see some stats on inter-generational mobility of religious belief.

    The way some sects grow rapidly in membership (and not just by breeding like rabbits!) while others can decline quickly suggests to me that there is more mobility than the above statement indicates.

    Also it is not uncommon for children to rebel against their parents' views, eg I've sometimes known atheists whose parents were strictly religious, or pentecostals whose parents were agnostic hippies.

    And what about cases where the parents have differing religious views?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    And what about cases where the parents have differing religious views?
    Lord help those marriages ... unless they're both people who practice (as well as preach) tolerance, I think they'd be in for a tough time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiny Norman
    Lord help those marriages ... unless they're both people who practice (as well as preach) tolerance, I think they'd be in for a tough time.
    My general observation is at most one is devout and the other is tolerant.

    Of the mixed marriages (interdenominational christian) in my immediate family, the denomination of the wife was the on which determined which wedding was conducted under and also the denomination that the children were raised in. This is a sample size of 2 so hardly statistically significant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiny Norman
    Lord help those marriages ... unless they're both people who practice (as well as preach) tolerance, I think they'd be in for a tough time.
    Oh, certainly if even one is strictly doctrinaire and that doctrine is exclusive of the other's doctrine (or lack thereof), that could be a big problem. Having said that, people will not necessarily take their "beliefs" to their logical conclusion if a relationship is at stake.

    But for example, say one parent is an atheist and the other is socially religious and at least a nominal believer but not devoutly denominational.
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