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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom
    good point, except the inverted commas are placed around the ' 10 years away' part of the headline .
    The use of the term "artificial brain" is the misleading part .
    So maybe not misleading in terms of time , but of subject matter ?
    With the section in the inverted commas removed the headline is just Artificial Brain. As it is just a noun, I don't see how it can be misleading.

    Certainly the claim was string than that reported. They were claiming an Artificial human brain was 10 years away. An artificial rodent brain (it is claimed) is on a shorter time line.

    Personally I think massively parallel environments like IBM Blue Gene is a very useful tool for certain types of simulation, but if you wanted me to bet on a human level of artificial intelligence could be developed within 10 years, I'd bet against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom
    A detailed, functional artificial human brain can be built within the next 10 years, a leading scientist has claimed.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8164060.stm


    ( BBC guilty of a misleading headline ? )
    Reminds me how Hodja Nasreddin promised sheik to teach his donkey to speak within 10 years in exchange of sizeable reward (paid upfront!). To his friend Nasreddin explained:
    In 10 year either me, sheik or donkey will be dead anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Igor_Goldenberg
    Reminds me how Hodja Nasreddin promised sheik to teach his donkey to speak within 10 years in exchange of sizeable reward (paid upfront!). To his friend Nasreddin explained:
    In 10 year either me, sheik or donkey will be dead anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    With the section in the inverted commas removed the headline is just Artificial Brain. As it is just a noun, I don't see how it can be misleading.

    Certainly the claim was string than that reported. They were claiming an Artificial human brain was 10 years away. An artificial rodent brain (it is claimed) is on a shorter time line.

    Personally I think massively parallel environments like IBM Blue Gene is a very useful tool for certain types of simulation, but if you wanted me to bet on a human level of artificial intelligence could be developed within 10 years, I'd bet against it.
    maybe should have had inverted commas around the words 'artificial brain' as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom
    maybe should have had inverted commas around the words 'artificial brain' as well?
    Nope, not needed for the reasons I've already said. Since you have no reason to suggest otherwise I assume you are being obtuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Nope, not needed for the reasons I've already said. Since you have no reason to suggest otherwise I assume you are being obtuse.
    i'm sorry i don't understand your reasoning.

    There are 2 components to the head line
    1) artificial brain
    2) the time to acquire such .

    my point is that not only is the time to acquire such misleading , but the thing trying to be acquired is misleading , as per the content of the article .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom
    i'm sorry i don't understand your reasoning.

    There are 2 components to the head line
    1) artificial brain
    2) the time to acquire such .

    my point is that not only is the time to acquire such misleading , but the thing trying to be acquired is misleading , as per the content of the article .
    There is only one aspect to the claim. A noun by itself makes no claim so how could it be leading or misleading? Perhaps you need to elucidate your reasons rather than making the rather vague argument "as per the content of the article."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    There is only one aspect to the claim. A noun by itself makes no claim so how could it be leading or misleading? Perhaps you need to elucidate your reasons rather than making the rather vague argument "as per the content of the article."
    because the article's content is so far removed from describing an actual ARTIFICIAL BRAIN .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom
    because the article's content is so far removed from describing an actual ARTIFICIAL BRAIN .
    It does not say that it does describe an artificial brain. It is reporting a claim the actual words of which are

    "It is not impossible to build a human brain and we can do it in 10 years"

    Thus, Artificial brain '10 years away' is not a misleading headline describing that claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    It does not say that it does describe an artificial brain. It is reporting a claim the actual words of which are

    "It is not impossible to build a human brain and we can do it in 10 years"

    Thus, Artificial brain '10 years away' is not a misleading headline describing that claim.
    ok, im with you

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    Invisible Flash: camera takes undetectable photos

    Researchers have demonstrated a "dark flash" that takes photos without emitting the bright visible flash normally visible to the naked eye.
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    Now available on Wikipedia are the so-called Rorshach inkblot tests. See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test.

    Take a look at them now as they could disappear altogether. There is hot debate surrounding the tests particularly among psychologists. Some say they should be there, others say they could threaten the testing procedure.

    See also http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/te...29inkblot.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by arosar
    Now available on Wikipedia are the so-called Rorshach inkblot tests. See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test.

    Take a look at them now as they could disappear altogether. There is hot debate surrounding the tests particularly among psychologists. Some say they should be there, others say they could threaten the testing procedure.

    See also http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/te...29inkblot.html

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    bout time they got some new ones anyway

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    The celebrate the 40th anniversary of Apollo XI - apparently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Wow... is that literally a piece of... cheese?

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