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    Quote Originally Posted by Metro View Post
    The one to watch is Alireza Firouzja.At 17 he is 2749 and easily the youngest in the top 20.From Iran he has moved to France.
    Yes agreed the most exciting youg talent coming through. TIme will tell if he's the next Carlsen or the next Giri hoping the former.

    Wei Yi of China at 21 was described as a prodigy but has not improved in the past 3 years (looking at his rating data).
    Duda is the other obvious choice for players who could be in the top 10 pretty soon. But even assuming all 3 of these do, it's still short of what we had say 8 years ago.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Yes agreed the most exciting youg talent coming through. TIme will tell if he's the next Carlsen or the next Giri hoping the former.

    Duda is the other obvious choice for players who could be in the top 10 pretty soon. But even assuming all 3 of these do, it's still short of what we had say 8 years ago.
    Giri is only 1 point outside the top 10, a good Tata Steel and he could be back in the top 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver View Post
    Giri is only 1 point outside the top 10, a good Tata Steel and he could be back in the top 10.
    Yeah for sure he is a solid top 10-ish player and has been for a long time, but when he was younger he showed even better promise that wasn't really fulfilled. Hopefully Alireza does live up to the hype.
    Richard Rapport is number 13 in the world.
    Sure, but I mean he's already 24, 25 in March. He broken into >2700 list at 18 & top 20 at age 20 but then dipped a lot. He's come back but will he go higher?
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Yeah for sure he is a solid top 10-ish player and has been for a long time, but when he was younger he showed even better promise that wasn't really fulfilled. Hopefully Alireza does live up to the hype.

    Sure, but I mean he's already 24, 25 in March. He broken into >2700 list at 18 & top 20 at age 20 but then dipped a lot. He's come back but will he go higher?
    I don't think 24 is too old to improve but he does not even need to improve as a player to get into the top 10. If his next tournament is a good one he could gain the required 6 or 7 points to get ahead of Radjabov.

    He also recently won the 11 Dangzhou GM tournament, played as an online rapid event, ahead of Ding, Grischuk and Giri. He does not seem out of place against higher rated players at least at rapid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver View Post
    I don't think 24 is too old to improve but he does not even need to improve as a player to get into the top 10. If his next tournament is a good one he could gain the required 6 or 7 points to get ahead of Radjabov.

    He also recently won the 11 Dangzhou GM tournament, played as an online rapid event, ahead of Ding, Grischuk and Giri. He does not seem out of place against higher rated players at least at rapid.
    He may not need to improve to get into top 10 for a couple of months or so, but given his lack of consistency and relatively poor level of positional play when compared with the likes of Caruana, Ding and Grishuk - He still has some progress to make to turn into an elite player.
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    As at round 9 in Wijk aan Zee,

    Giri has re-entered the top 10
    MVL has crashed from #5 to #13
    Firouzja is just 5 points away from entering the top 10, if he keep his level of play up, it seems likely he will make it this tournament.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Firouzja didn't win any further games so will have to wait for the next chance to enter the top 10.

    van Foreest and Esipenko both join the 2700 club off great Wijk ann Zee results. Wojtaszek exits the club.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    With Aronian transferring to USA, the USA can now lay claim to 4 of the top 10 rated players of all time by classical live rating. Caruana #3, Aronian #4, So #7, & Nakamura #10.

    Russia has only 1 (Kasparov, #2).

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    1. Carlsen 		2889.2 		21 Apr 2014
    2. Kasparov 		2856.7 		03 Mar 2000
    3. Caruana 		2851.3 		08 Oct 2014
    4. Aronian 		2835.5 		02 Feb 2014
    5. Topalov 		2826.5 		24 Aug 2015
    6. Mamedyarov 		2826.2 		30 Sep 2018
    7. So 			2824.5 		01 Apr 2017
    8. Anand 		2820.7 		26 Jan 2011
    9. Vachier-Lagrave 	2819.3 		28 Jul 2016
    10. Nakamura 		2819.0 		23 Aug 2015
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    Firouzja has moved up to #12, courtesy of Wang Hao dropping points.
    Giri moves up to #5, by his own hand.
    Alekseenko moves above 2700.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    With Aronian transferring to USA, the USA can now lay claim to 4 of the top 10 rated players of all time by classical live rating. Caruana #3, Aronian #4, So #7, & Nakamura #10.

    Russia has only 1 (Kasparov, #2).

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    1. Carlsen 		2889.2 		21 Apr 2014
    2. Kasparov 		2856.7 		03 Mar 2000
    3. Caruana 		2851.3 		08 Oct 2014
    4. Aronian 		2835.5 		02 Feb 2014
    5. Topalov 		2826.5 		24 Aug 2015
    6. Mamedyarov 		2826.2 		30 Sep 2018
    7. So 			2824.5 		01 Apr 2017
    8. Anand 		2820.7 		26 Jan 2011
    9. Vachier-Lagrave 	2819.3 		28 Jul 2016
    10. Nakamura 		2819.0 		23 Aug 2015
    Nepo is not on the top 10 list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Nepo is not on the top 10 list.
    Correct, he is currently #17 on that particular list.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Correct, he is currently #17 on that particular list.
    hm...makes me doubt accuracy of the ratings...as he is quite good in both Rapid and Blitz
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    hm...makes me doubt accuracy of the ratings...as he is quite good in both Rapid and Blitz
    It’s based on classical ratings. As such how is his Rapid or Blitz strength relevant.
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    With his loss at the world cup, Caruana has exited the 2800 club, and lost his world #2 spot to Ding. The gap between Magnus and #2 is now over 55 points.

    Karjakin has re-entered the top 10.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post

    van Foreest and Esipenko both join the 2700 club off great Wijk ann Zee results. Wojtaszek exits the club.
    Andrey Esipenko is another one to watch,at 19 years and #26 in live ratings.He plays Dubov in round 4 of the World Cup.Can he step up?
    Last edited by Metro; 23-07-2021 at 11:36 PM.

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