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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    Looking like a pretty tight race in NSW, odds currently slightly favour Coalition (1.87 to 1.95). I actually thought Gladys was a bit on the nose especially with the Transport debacle and stadium money wasting, but maybe not enough people know whatisname.
    A week is a long time in political betting markets, with Coalition extending a presumably wining lead at $1.38 to $3.00. Seems the more people got to know whatisname, the more they liked Gladys.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    A week is a long time in political betting markets, with Coalition extending a presumably wining lead at $1.38 to $3.00. Seems the more people got to know whatisname, the more they liked Gladys.
    I suspect that she just wasn't bad enough to be rejected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    I suspect that she just wasn't bad enough to be rejected.
    Voters thought so, her personal approval ratings were OK even if she underwhelmed on the less meaningful "better Premier" scores.
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    Gladys' team won - by a reduced margin but better than I for one expected.
    God exists. Short and to the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    I suspect that she just wasn't bad enough to be rejected.
    I'm not so sure. It seems to me that Labor was in touch until Daley's shocking last week. He's paid the price for it with the leadership.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    The polling had it basically lineball, perhaps with a tiny edge to the Coalition based on their advantage in the distribution of required seat swings, until the final days. There wasn't much polling though; it's possible the Coalition were doing better than that.

    Daley is actually standing aside from the leadership while a ballot is organised for after the federal election and at the moment says he's still contesting it. But that's probably a soft step on the path to deciding not to contest it, which I think he'll come under pressure from the federal party to announce sooner rather than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    The polling had it basically lineball, perhaps with a tiny edge to the Coalition based on their advantage in the distribution of required seat swings, until the final days. There wasn't much polling though; it's possible the Coalition were doing better than that.

    Daley is actually standing aside from the leadership while a ballot is organised for after the federal election and at the moment says he's still contesting it. But that's probably a soft step on the path to deciding not to contest it, which I think he'll come under pressure from the federal party to announce sooner rather than later.
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    Michael Daley abandons bid to remain NSW Labor leader

    Former NSW Opposition Leader Michael Daley has pulled out of the race for the party's leadership, after a disappointing state election result.

    Mr Daley yesterday announced he would stand aside, but insisted he would still contest the leadership when a ballot was held after the upcoming federal election.

    In a brief statement, the Maroubra MP today announced he made the decision not to contest the leadership after consulting colleagues and his family....
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Posts moved

    Posts about appearances by neo-Nazis on TV shows have been moved to a new thread.
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    Outstanding Latham address on many important issues, e.g. freedom of speech & faith

    Mark Latham unleashes in maiden speech: How did our nation come to this?
    ANDREW CLENNELL, NSW POLITICAL EDITOR, Australian, 8 May 2019

    New One Nation NSW MP Mark Latham has railed against the Left and political correctness in his maiden speech in the NSW parliament, accusing people of trying to bring down western civilisation through a campaign of “cultural Marxism”.

    Mr Latham defended rugby player Israel Folau and said that he would be “moving legislation for the protection of free speech, religious freedom and the privacy rights of workers” in his time in parliament.

    He also said he would move legislation allowing nuclear power into NSW and said the federal Opposition spokesman on the environment, Mark Butler, would become the “minister for blackouts” with his pro-renewables approach and compared the push for renewables to a “pagan religion”.

    Mr Latham, who with a One Nation colleague and several other crossbenchers will hold the balance of power in the upper house in NSW, said he and others were in the “fight of our lives” to bring back the values of Western civilisation.

    “Mr President, I stand with Israel Folau. In his own private time away from his job playing football, he’s a preacher at his community church and naturally, he quotes the Bible,” Mr Latham said.

    “I was on Folau’s list of sinners”

    “He believes, as millions of people have believed for thousands of years, that sinners go to Hell.

    “As per his valid religious faith, he loves the sinner but condemns the sin. Yet for his beliefs, his Christianity, he is not allowed to play rugby, to chase the pigskin around the park.

    “How did our State and our nation ever come to this? I was on Folau’s list of sinners, more than once actually.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Popular Tasmanian Labor MP Scott Bacon is quitting for family reasons, which may cause Labor serious trouble because his seat may be taken on countback by former Labor MP Madeleine Ogilvie. Ogilvie was ousted by a within-party push at last year's state election and she had many conflicts within the party, mostly over social issues. (She's not a Shoppie, but has a similar range of Catholic-conservative-but-otherwise-leftwing issues positions to Shoppies.) If Ogilvie is going to win the recount, which isn't completely certain but looks likely provided she runs, Labor can't do anything about it, and Ogilvie may well then sit as an independent.

    Ogilvie might then sometimes cancel out Liberal Speaker Sue Hickey's habit of voting against her own party.
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    Ogilvie won the recount (it was close, 201 votes (51-49)) and is going to announce tonight that she will be sitting as an independent.
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    Spill motion against NSW Premier Berejiklian! Considering she has just won an election, this seems quixotic (to be polite):

    Hardline anti-abortion Liberal MPs in New South Wales say they will move a spill motion against the premier, Gladys Berejiklian, over her handling of the abortion decriminalisation bill which is due to be debated in the upper house on Tuesday. The trio, Tanya Davies, the MP for Mulgoa, and legislative council members Matthew Mason-Cox and Lou Amato will back the spill motion, which comes just months after Berejiklian led the party to victory at the election.

    It is unlikely the rebel MPs will have enough support for a successful spill motion with most senior Liberals publicly backing the premier, but religious leaders, rightwing MPs and conservative media commentators have mounted a vociferous campaign to derail the legislation ahead of the vote. Opponents claim the bill will allow so-called gender or sex selection and abortion “on demand” up until birth.

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    The challenge has been ... aborted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    The challenge has been ... aborted.
    haha good one!
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    An interesting read, regarding attempted suppression of peaceful protests

    Submission on the Summary Offences and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2019
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    ...We are writing to express our deep concern and opposition to The Bill. These laws are politicised,
    disproportionate, and overreaching. They aim to silence dissent, and are not consistent with community
    expectations or the democratic pillars on which Australia is built. They appear to be a deliberate tact to
    demonise protesters desperately calling for action on climate change, and have no evidential basis.
    Furthermore, these laws present a departure from the fundamental principles that should guide criminal
    law-making such as retribution, denunciation, deterrence and rehabilitation. We would urge the
    Committee to reject them...

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