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    The most telling thing about the press conference is that as soon as a question was asked about what Novak was doing in the days after his positive test on the 16th of December the family immediately stopped the press conference and did not answer the question. Totally dodgy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver View Post
    The most telling thing about the press conference is that as soon as a question was asked about what Novak was doing in the days after his positive test on the 16th of December the family immediately stopped the press conference and did not answer the question. Totally dodgy.
    Not dodgy...but very clear that there is mounting evidence of him not isolating and contributing to spread of the virus! This has not happened in Australia but would love to hear from authorities of the country where these events have taken place.

    Also....wondering if ATP has anything at all to say about it.
    atptour website has not been following the Novak saga at all...like if its not happening!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Also....wondering if ATP has anything at all to say about it.
    atptour website has not been following the Novak saga at all...like if its not happening!
    Took me less than 15 seconds to find this: https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djok...statement-2022

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    Apparently Novax lied on his travel declaration form.

    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/pol...11-p59nf2.html

    On his Australian Travel Declaration, Djokovic stated he had not travelled in 14 days prior to his January 6 arrival in Australia. Djokovic had in fact travelled from Belgrade to Spain within that time.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Apparently Novax lied on his travel declaration form.

    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/pol...11-p59nf2.html

    On his Australian Travel Declaration, Djokovic stated he had not travelled in 14 days prior to his January 6 arrival in Australia. Djokovic had in fact travelled from Belgrade to Spain within that time.
    But what is it going to "cost" him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    But what is it going to "cost" him?
    Potentially a lot. As in it will give the Immigration Minister the grounds to cancel his visa and send him packing.

    Just when you think this case has run its course, it takes another turn. The linked article says that Tennis Australia filled out the form for him.

    However, Djokovic told border officials that Tennis Australia completed the Australian Travel Declaration on his behalf. It is not clear whether this could save him from falling further foul of border officials.
    Now this one I find a tough one to swallow. It is the responsibility of the traveller to fill out that document and they alone are responsible for the answers on it. I find it hard to believe that Tennis Australia filled out a legally binding, criminal penalties can be brought, document on his behalf.

    Looks like this case may not be over and done with yet.

    And why am I say this is not over yet. Because those travel documents are so clear cut, black and white, no discretion matters. Everyone who has crossed a border, especially into Australia, knows that the Border Declaration form has to be answered correctly. Ask all the people who appear on Australia's Border Security when they answer No to 'have you brought any plant or food into the country' haha.

    Novak Djokovic could still be in for a world of hurt.

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    What happens if you answer Yes, you are going to travel?

    What advantage is gained by answering the question wrongly no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    But what is it going to "cost" him?
    Hopefully the chance to ever play in the Australian Open again.

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    I wanted to check my facts before making this post.

    Whilst everyone seems to be concentrating on whether Immigration Minister Alex Hawke will cancel Novak Djokovic's visa or not, the Australian Government does retain another option, and that is to appeal the decision of the Federal Court Judge.

    This generally requires that the appellant, Australian Government in this case, are able to show new facts that were previously not available to them at the time of the first hearing, or other such material. The revelation of Novak Djokovic's travel document would potentially be one such item.

    They would then be asking for a full Federal Court hearing on the matter. Just like the first hearing, this would be done as an Emergency Hearing, rather than taking the months of normal processes.

    Both sides in any time limited situations are prepared for this and they have lawyers prepared at each stage, ready to file the documents up the chain after each lower court decision has been made. The best examples of these situations are Election day challenges in USA and Death Row Stay challenges.

    Therefore, for this matter, now that there is possibly new material, it would not be a surprise if the Australian Government decides to appeal the Federal Court Judge's decision and ask for a Full Federal Court hearing on the matter asap. Then it would be heard in front of three Federal Court Judges in Melbourne.

    After that, depending on who loses, and if losing team has their lawyers ready to go, it is off to lodge their documents at the High Court in Canberra.

    And the days are ticking, hence the time sensitivity if the Australian Government goes the appeal route. Australian Open starts January 17.

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    A problem for them in any appeal might be their spectacular denial of natural justice to Djokovic in the way the initial decision was handled, no matter how well founded it was.

    Much as I dislike Djokovic, at this point I'd be even keener to see those who stuffed up the initial handling of the matter deported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    A problem for them in any appeal might be their spectacular denial of natural justice to Djokovic in the way the initial decision was handled, no matter how well founded it was. ...
    My understanding is that the judge made his decision solely on that basis. So I don't think new evidence against Djokovic would be a basis for an appeal. But the Minister could justify use it to justify the use of his discretionary powers.

    I think the concern for the government is that banning Djokovic could endanger future Australian Opens, which is not something they want to happen just before an election where they need to hold every seat in Victoria.

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    The very fact that he was meeting people rather than isolating while having covid is well-evidenced. That could be sufficient ground..but again - it did not happen in Australia
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    Is it only me who feels that ATP is not doing enough to highlight importance of rules being same for everyone. The person in question has been out of isolation and meeting many people while tested positive - and what is being done?

    At the same time - WTA tour events are moved from China because they are ''concerned'' about someone's well-being. Well- there are no concerns in Novak's case. He tested positive on 16th, his presence is recorded in public functions over next 3 days on multiple occasions. Any real response to follow? Instead - suggestions that ''Aus open is in danger'' come up!
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