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    I notice that his entry has now disappeared from the VIC Crimestoppers website.
    Perhaps someone informed them he was deceased.
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    Deceased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos
    I notice that his entry has now disappeared from the VIC Crimestoppers website.
    Perhaps someone informed them he was deceased.
    If he is deceased,what is date of death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Met
    If he is deceased,what is date of death?
    Kerry noted he was dead in the first post of this thread.

    Also the website http://www.waywardbus.com.au/links.html shows the following:

    Pal Dozsa - chef, news celebrity, lover of fine food and French champagne, restaurant authority (world record claimer but Pal's website doesn't go there), Australian Over 60 Chess Champion 2002 and by self-admission, hapless long term research subject for Warsaw Pact mind control implant experiments. Postcript: Sadly Paul passed away in Oct 2003. Often in newspapers, in 1989 Paul claimed the Guiness world record for an infamous 40 years plus career of serial freeloading on restaurants, hotels, railways etc and served countless prison sentences, typically defending himself eloquently but not often successfully before the courts. Paul will be remembered for his dignified (even in the face of the facts), friendly and charmingly convincing manner.
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    I note that the month of death given by waywardbus contradicts the May 2003 post by jase.

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    As a matter of interest, Waywardbus is Ralph Jackson's company isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis_Jessop
    As a matter of interest, Waywardbus is Ralph Jackson's company isn't it?

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    Yes, although I think they had a merger or something recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mangafranga
    Yes, although I think they had a merger or something recently.
    Thanks. I haven't seen Ralph for a while so I 'm not up with the latest. At one time he had a plan for mobile touring chess tournaments where people would go on an outback bush tour and sight-see during the day and play a rapid tournament at night. I don't know if it ever got off the ground.

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    ...I don't want to go among mad people Alice remarked, "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: we're all mad here. I am mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat ,"or you wouldn't have come here."

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    Paul Dozsa was a Hungarian Master and leading junior drawing with Portisch etc in Debrecen in 1956.

    On arrival in Australia in early 1965 Dozsa was wanted by police in Hungary, Indonesia and by Interpol.

    He performed well in the Christchurch NZ International (and was wanted by NZ police) and played for NSW, who crushed Victoria (Bd 1 Flatow-Hamilton 0.5, bd 2 P.Parr-Hanks 0.5) in the 1968 interstate match (when is the next match ? -over 100 years of matches).

    Dozsa played well in the 15 round 1968/9 Australian Championship in Melbourne(top three seeds were W.S.Browne, A.Flatow, P.Parr).

    Dozsa described himself as a Hungarian nobleman and was always very well dressed wearing a cravat etc and gave the impression that he was a person of wealth and owner of a string of high class restaurants.

    In those days Dozsa stayed in the finest 5 star hotels(under a variety of names) in all Australian Cities but very consistently left before paying the bill. Dozsa regularly dined and wined in Australia's best restaurants.

    His knowledge of food and expensive wines was unique.
    Of course from time to time he ended up in jail.

    Every time he guaranteed to the magistrate that he was extremely sorry for his actions, complimented the restaurant as serving the best food and wine he had ever had - his stated remorse led to a lighter sentence. Dozsa considered himself as the most famous person in the world for not paying restaurant bills and he told everyone he met of his achievements. On a number of occasions I told him as did others that he was a serial pest and a menace to society.

    His response was simple "everything you say is right - I agree it is very stupid - I have learned my lesson and he guarantees it will never happen again". P.C.Dozsa was before the courts on at least 150 occasions but most offences never got that far. Dozsa had many excuses, my wallet is in the car or he made out a cheque which bounced, or he would say my name is Paul Dozsa I never pay my bills and I am broke, it is no use calling the police as you will never be paid. Not wanting a major disturbance in a quality restaurant he often was allowed to leave quietly by management rather than have an arrest.

    Dozsa took great delight in telling everyone that he had perfected his crime. He would eat and drink then he said he was very ill and asked for an ambulance to be called. The manager would be very concerned of course and Dozsa was often taken to hospital.

    He then recovered and of course had not paid the bill. He was caught one evening when the same ambulance driver picked up Dozsa and he was back in prison. Dozsa sometimes rented a luxurious apartment paying some advanced rent, hired expensive furniture, sold it and disappeared. The list goes on and on - including the TRG matter.

    After a number of years a new excuse he explained to magistrates was that the Hungarian Army had implanted a device in his head which made him commit offences. This worked well for Dozsa as he was often sent for psychiatric assessment instead of jail. It was very sad that after referring to this on so many occasions that he was in fact convinced it was true.

    The qualified psychiatric nurses who new Dozsa well and later became men's chess champions of Australia regarded Dozsa as a unique case.

    Australia was invited to select one player with free entry and free international hotel accommodation as Australia's official representative in the World Seniors Championship.

    The ACF received an application from P.C.Dozsa. I have always expressed the view that the application from P.C.Dozsa should, without doubt, have been rejected by each and every member of the ACF Executive, Council, and the ACF Selectors.

    His application form marked - Rejected as applicant is unsuitable- and Dozsa advised of the firm decision. The ACF in fact considered the applicants and selected Dozsa as the most suitable candidate and officially entered him in the World Championship to officially represent Australia and the ACF. The ACF was well aware of Dozsa's history so why was he selected?

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    Thank you for the history lesson, Peter. You would have had my unequivocal support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter_parr
    The ACF was well aware of Dozsa's history so why was he selected?
    Hi Peter,
    Just as a matter of curiosity, was Dazsa strong enough, chesswise that is, to have represented Australia at that level when selected?
    Additionally, what powers and/or criteria does the ACF have at its disposal in order to determine someone's criminal record in the process of selection?
    And finally, is the existance of a player's criminal record a factor in deciding someone's exclusion from a representative team, administrative body, tournament etc?
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    Not for me to know Elliott, but it sounds like Pal took pleasure in advertising his exploits as a world record! As such, it would seem to be reasonably common knowledge in these circles (at the time).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    Not for me to know Elliott, but it sounds like Pal took pleasure in advertising his exploits as a world record! As such, it would seem to be reasonably common knowledge in these circles (at the time).
    Hi Howard, thanks and I agree! However, my question to Peter was if there are such criteria of decidiing one's exlusion or inclusion on various Chess related activities. And that applies to all people and not only to Dozsa!
    If, for example, player X has a criminal record is he/she liable for exclusion from the above mentioned Chess activities on the basis of that record?
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    It's a good question. Speaking for myself, I'm unsure whether I would support a catch-all policy, or rather one that considers the degree and the recentness of the crime.

    Without affording myself due consideration of the matter, I have a feeling that any criminal behaviour would fall short of my ambassador benchmark - but don't hold me to it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    Without affording myself due consideration of the matter, I have a feeling that any criminal behaviour would fall short of my ambassador benchmark - but don't hold me to it!
    Of course character and behavioural traits should be a consideration when determining who should be eligible to represent the country in an international event.

    But I'd don't think a criminal record per se should make anyone ineligible to be an ambassador - but it is definitely a factor.
    Last edited by Sunshine; 19-09-2007 at 07:03 PM.

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    perhaps the question could be split to a separate thread so that the man can be left to rest in peace
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