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    Quote Originally Posted by pax
    The final position is a classic. Lasker played both sides of it, Chigorin and Spielmann played it, Marshall beat Capablanca and Tarrasch with it. Statistically, it doesn't look great for white.
    Yes, but, you know, kids and their computers, you never know what he had in store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggrayggray
    If I have remembered your previous posts correctly, now we await to see what rating David's last round opponent is? If he gets an opponent who is rated high enough, does he already have the GM norm?
    Yep. If you check the posts a few above yours, all is explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    Yes, but, you know, kids and their computers, you never know what he had in store.
    Perhaps it was something similar to this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    One more post from anyone regarding whether David Smerdon reads this BB or takes advice from it, no matter how oblique, and I will nominate this thread for the:

    It Shouldn't Be Possible, And I Had To See It To Believe It, For This Many Intelligent People To Consistently Misunderstand Each Other In Such A Short Space Of Time, Over Such A Non Issue HADBBA

    Yeah yeah but only if there are another HADBBA published
    No this is silly, the whole premise is silly and very badly written. I'm the senior officer here and I've not had a funny line yet so I'm stopping it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bergil
    Yeah yeah but only if there are another HADBBA published
    but would it be a hadbba now? Or would it be gdbba?

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    In his blog, AR now says:

    Contrary to our post yesterday he actually still needs a draw against someone rated at least 2497 in the 9th and final round. But if the opponent is below 2497, then a win is required.
    I'm checking to see what the correct situation is.

    [EDIT: As far as I can tell AR's colleague is incorrect. 6/9 vs 2476-2520 is a norm and Smerdon currently has 6/8 vs average rating 2473.3.]
    Last edited by Kevin Bonham; 28-07-2007 at 01:25 AM.

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    Ok, I have done some calculations, but I would like someone to double check it as one of them does seem a bit odd....

    Ok, firstly a loss in the last round against 2560 would still result in performance rating of 2600.. rating average played 2483...( there are 13 players over 2560, and David has played two of them so it is unlikely he would get any of those)...

    Secondly, and this does look a bit unusual, is even if David draws against 2200 player would result in a performance rating of 2609... rating average played 2443...

    Now would both situations result in GM norm as performance rating is over 2600 or is rating average of opponents a factor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Dragicevic
    Now would both situations result in GM norm as performance rating is over 2600 or is rating average of opponents a factor...
    Since no one else has replied. Average rating is the factor in determining what score he needs for the standard of opposition he has/will meet.

    Higher average rating field met = lower score required.

    Hence why we are waiting to see what the rating of his last round opponent is.

    Quote Originally Posted by pax
    By my calculations, if Smerdon's final round opponent is rated 2492 or higher, then the average rating of his opponents will be above 2475.5 and hence he would require only 0.5/2 for the GM norm. If, however the final round opponent is rated lower than 2492 he will need 1/2.
    So this means that if David's last round opponent is rated above 2491, David has fulfilled all requirements for the GM norm part of the GM title. All he will need then if the 2500 fide rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Dragicevic
    Secondly, and this does look a bit unusual, is even if David draws against 2200 player would result in a performance rating of 2609... rating average played 2443...
    You have to use the FIDE charts to do this calculation, not my performance calculator (which calculates true performance ratings rather than performance rating based on average rating which is what FIDE uses), hence why David needed a 2492 rated opponent in order not to require a draw for his norm. You are also right that a final round draw against any opponent was also sufficient.

    But I see that David's final opponent is:

    MASLAK KONSTANTIN 2548, so let me be the first to say:

    Woohooo!!!! Well done, David congratulations on your third and final GM norm

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    Not so fast

    Doing the sums the hard way, I come up with -
    Average rating 2481
    If final score 6/9 (66%) Dp = 117
    So rating performance (Rp) = 2481 + 117 = 2598 (i.e. 3 short of a norm)

    So he needs a draw at least in the last round. A final score of 6 would give him an Rp of 2647, while a win gives 2702.

    Looking at Maslak's performance in this event, he has nothing to play for except the money (although greenbacks are very useful in Russia!). He drew his first two games (Swiss Gambit!?) plus two more draws along the way. He may well be amenable to another draw offer tonight.

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    You're wrong Ian - the FIDE tables are Gospel in this matter, and the average rating cutoff for a 6/9 norm is 2476.
    Last edited by pax; 28-07-2007 at 02:53 PM.

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    The problem with your calculation is that 6/9 actually rounds to 67% rather than 66%, and hence dp should be 125 not 117.

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    Jesus Christ....I just hope you're right!!

    Anyway, game against Sveshi now up on blog!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arosar
    Jesus Christ....I just hope you're right!!
    Trust me mate

    Anyway, game against Sveshi now up on blog!
    It's a ripper too!

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    MASLAK KONSTANTIN 2548 will be his opponent.

    Just realized pax beat me to it. Congrats David.
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