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    Jono, please stop belittling the Hippies
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    Polar Bear Hoax

    We have all seen the advertisement attempting to tug at our heart strings witnessing a poor polar bear struggling from one melting ice chunk to another.
    Polar bears however naturally and routinely swim great distances of up to 200 miles!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKAC4kfHruQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom
    We have all seen the advertisement attempting to tug at our heart strings witnessing a poor polar bear struggling from one melting ice chunk to another.
    Polar bears however naturally and routinely swim great distances of up to 200 miles!
    Regardless of tabloid journalism, scientific evidence is that the icecaps are diminishing. NASA satellite analysis: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/...023esuice.html

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    Take 2 Ian

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray
    Regardless of tabloid journalism, scientific evidence is that the icecaps are diminishing. NASA satellite analysis: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/...023esuice.html
    ian, no one is disputing global warming as fact, i dispute i)that it is man made and ii)the facts pertaining to said polar bear advertisement,as per my original statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray
    Regardless of tabloid journalism, scientific evidence is that the icecaps are diminishing. NASA satellite analysis: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/...023esuice.html
    Icecaps are shrinking on Mars too. Maybe alGore and his aging rocker pals have flown too many jets on Mars as well
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    Common Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Icecaps are shrinking on Mars too. Maybe alGore and his aging rocker pals have flown too many jets on Mars as well
    Nice to be on the same side of the fence on this one jono
    I commend you on your debating skills,and wholly support your position on this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom
    ian, no one is disputing global warming as fact, i dispute i)that it is man made and ii)the facts pertaining to said polar bear advertisement,as per my original statement.
    And I also dispute that iii) actions proposed by global warmist lobby would do any good.
    Well defined and protected property rights do 90% (if not more) of environment protection job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Igor_Goldenberg
    And I also dispute that iii) actions proposed by global warmist lobby would do any good.
    Or that it's clear that wealth + warmth + extra plant food AKA CO2 taken in combination will be worse than less wealth + coolness that the modern Greenies want. Poverty is a known life risk whereas wealth has enabled better responses to natural disasters, so loss of life is sharply reduced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Igor_Goldenberg
    Well defined and protected property rights do 90% (if not more) of environment protection job.
    For sure. Communist regimes have been an environmental disaster. And property rights protect endangered species: The Politically Incorrect Guide to Capitalism by Dr Robert Murphy asks:

    Pop quiz: What's the difference between bald eagles, white rhinos, and giant pandas on one hand, versus talking parrots, dairy cows, and thoroughbred horses on the other? Answer #1: All the former are endangered species, while the latter are in plentiful supply. Answer #2: It is illegal to trade in the former, while the latter are bought and sold on the open market.

    He explains that when there are secure property rights, the owners of these animals have every incentive to ensure their continued existence. But when the government or "the public" owns something, in reality no-one owns it. So the African despots have no incentive to stop poaching, because they don't benefit personally.

    Compare Wollemi Pines now available to all Australians - Dinosaur tree set free: this is an astute policy: saving a tree that was supposed to have gone extinct millions of years ago by allowing private ownership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom
    Nice to be on the same side of the fence on this one jono
    I commend you on your debating skills,and wholly support your position on this matter.
    Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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    Bugger being afraid. Run!
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    Be afraid. Be very afraid.
    as afraid and manipulated as the man-made GW proponents, you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Pop quiz: What's the difference between bald eagles, white rhinos, and giant pandas on one hand, versus talking parrots, dairy cows, and thoroughbred horses on the other? Answer #1: All the former are endangered species, while the latter are in plentiful supply. Answer #2: It is illegal to trade in the former, while the latter are bought and sold on the open market.
    You must be joking. You're going to just trust poachers to preserve species rather than just wipe out one and move on to the next?

    One of your examples is rather bad, since the protection of the bald eagle has just led to it's removal from the endangered list for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom
    as afraid and manipulated as the man-made GW proponents, you mean?
    Yes Axiom, that's right dear. *pats top of Ax's head*
    meep meep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Icecaps are shrinking on Mars too. Maybe alGore and his aging rocker pals have flown too many jets on Mars as well
    From TFA:

    "The team's findings don't point to an external influence, such as an increase in solar radiation, that some climate-change skeptics have suggested may be behind Earth's recent warming, Geissler says."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    Yes Axiom, that's right dear. *pats top of Ax's head*
    Back in the *** days we had names for people like this, no its not "left gatekeeper", they are names that cannot be repeated here.
    Suffice to say, they involve a budgerigar,a can of salmon,a wind sock,an eggplant and a combine harvester.

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