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    The climate crisis is our third world war. It needs a bold response
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    ...Critics ask, “Can we afford it?” and complain that Green New Deal proponents confound the fight to preserve the planet, to which all right-minded individuals should agree, with a more controversial agenda for societal transformation. On both accounts the critics are wrong.

    Yes, we can afford it, with the right fiscal policies and collective will. But more importantly, we must afford it. The climate emergency is our third world war. Our lives and civilization as we know it are at stake, just as they were in the second world war.

    When the US was attacked during the second world war no one asked, “Can we afford to fight the war?” It was an existential matter. We could not afford not to fight it. The same goes for the climate crisis. Here, we are already experiencing the direct costs of ignoring the issue – in recent years the country has lost almost 2% of GDP in weather-related disasters, which include floods, hurricanes, and forest fires. The cost to our health from climate-related diseases is just being tabulated, but it, too, will run into the tens of billions of dollars – not to mention the as-yet-uncounted number of lives lost. We will pay for climate breakdown one way or another, so it makes sense to spend money now to reduce emissions rather than wait until later to pay a lot more for the consequences – not just from weather but also from rising sea levels. It’s a cliche, but it’s true: an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure....

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    Extinction Rebellion is coming to Hobart this Monday. The location is just around the corner from the Tassie Open, and the timing at 3pm fits nicely after the closing ceremony –

    June 10: South Hobart bit.ly/xraushfx3
    June 13: Fremantle, Perth bit.ly/xraushfx4
    June 15: Fitzroy, Melbourne bit.ly/xraushfx5
    June 23: Marrickville, Sydney bit.ly/xraushfx6
    June 29: Fitzroy, Melbourne bit.ly/xraushfx7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blunderbuss View Post
    Extinction Rebellion is coming to Hobart this Monday.
    is this a cubist version of a swastika those silly greenies are displaying? they tried the same gimmicks up North
    where Bob Brown got his arse kicked and the natives threw them out of town!

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-...y-qld/11051390
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
    is this a cubist version of a swastika those silly greenies are displaying? they tried the same gimmicks up North
    where Bob Brown got his arse kicked and the natives threw them out of town!

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-...y-qld/11051390
    In 50 years time Bob Brown will be the new Jesus Christ saviour
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    Alas it is already paying a visit. For example,

    Victoria Jan 2019, mean temperature anomaly about 4 degrees above average.

    Victoria May 2019, mean temperature anomaly about 0.6 degrees above average.

    So slightly warmer winters in exchange for barely inhabitable summers. You want more of that?
    Thanks for the interesting links.
    That additional degree and much more I get from my a/c and heaters resulting to rather hefty electricity and gas bills.
    Still freezing when I go out for my morning walks around the lake or down the beach though.
    My lifestyle is arranged in such a way that I chase summers and rarely have to suffer winter conditions such as the present one. (*)
    That means I am used to extreme heat conditions during summer since the temp. there (Mediterranean countries) is usually 40 °C plus. (**)
    (*) that's not the case when I am in the North Eastern States of the US, particularly in NYC where the cold is simply atrocious!
    (**) I slightly deviated this year, I am off to Europe next week!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
    is this a cubist version of a swastika those silly greenies are displaying?
    The circle signifies the planet, while the hourglass inside serves as a warning that time is rapidly running out for many species.

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    Fish-deaths-in-the-darling-river

    Tasmania fire crisis has seen almost 200,000 hectares of land burnt out since it started, TFS estimates

    Up-to-500000-drought-stressed-cattle-killed-in-QLD-floods
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    If people/animals freeze to death at some part of the world due to mega-cold temperatures...shall it also be considered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    If people/animals freeze to death at some part of the world due to mega-cold temperatures...shall it also be considered?

    Those mega cold temps could also be caused by global warming so they also be considered
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    If people/animals freeze to death at some part of the world due to mega-cold temperatures...shall it also be considered?
    Of course. The effect of global warming is to change the climate. One of those effects is a weakening of the polar jet stream, allowing the polar vortex to dip into lower latitudes and bringing with it frigid arctic weather.

    Remember that name: Polar Vortex. It will be plaguing us for a long time to come.

    How frigid polar vortex blasts are connected to global warming
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    A record-breaking cold wave is sending literal shivers down the spines of millions of Americans. Temperatures across the upper Midwest are forecast to fall an astonishing 50 degrees Fahrenheit (28 degrees Celsius) below normal this week – as low as 35 degrees below zero. Pile a gusty wind on top, and the air will feel like -60 F.

    This cold is nothing to sneeze at. The National Weather Service is warning of brutal, life-threatening conditions. Frostbite will strike fast on any exposed skin. At the same time, the North Pole is facing a heat wave with temperatures approaching the freezing point – about 25 degrees Fahrenheit (14 C) above normal.

    What is causing this topsy-turvy pattern? You guessed it: the polar vortex.

    In the past several years, thanks to previous cold waves, the polar vortex has become entrenched in our everyday vocabulary and served as a butt of jokes for late-night TV hosts and politicians. But what is it really? Is it escaping from its usual Arctic haunts more often? And a question that looms large in my work: How does global warming fit into the story? ...

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    Australia's greenhouse gas emissions rise again, according to delayed Federal Government data

    Australia's greenhouse gas emissions have reached record highs in many sectors, continuing an upward trend that began in 2013, according to official Government figures released on Thursday.

    The Federal Government's Quarterly Update of the National Greenhouse Gas Inventory for the three months to December 2018 shows emissions increased by 0.8 per cent seasonally adjusted, compared to the previous quarter.

    Key points:
    • Australia's greenhouse gas emissions rise again, according to data for the last quarter of 2018
    • Experts say the jump in emissions is due to transport, coal mining and fuels burned for large industry
    • The Government has told the UN per-capita emissions are dropping, but Australia's population is growing

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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    The Government has told the UN per-capita emissions are dropping, but Australia's population is growing
    The emissions deception cookbook

    Tactic #3 An excessive focus on per-capita figures falling: -

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    https://www.9news.com.au/technology/...xGTOlWoBVf0ZY8

    While we are busy fighting climate change. Shall we have a tax to fight the superflare explosion as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    https://www.9news.com.au/technology/...xGTOlWoBVf0ZY8

    While we are busy fighting climate change. Shall we have a tax to fight the superflare explosion as well?
    Current climate change has nothing to do with the sun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Current climate change has nothing to do with the sun
    And we do spend a lot of taxpayers' money protecting communications from solar flares, which are a serious nuisance.

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