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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    caused by a lack of reliability in coal-fired power, with a quarter of QLD coal capacity offline due to maintenance and unexpected outages.
    But with the vilification of coal-fired power, except of course if the CCP use it, there is less incentive to maintain. Why spend money on something the government could close any time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    But with the vilification of coal-fired power, except of course if the CCP use it, there is less incentive to maintain. Why spend money on something the government could close any time?
    The lack of incentive is driven by the economics. Coal costs more, especially when you have to factor in the maintenance costs. It's not worth doing.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    But with the vilification of coal-fired power, except of course if the CCP use it, there is less incentive to maintain. Why spend money on something the government could close any time?
    Far from any government-forced closures, we've just had nine years of coalition government desperately trying to prop up coal, even mooting new coal-fired power stations at taxpayer expense.

    The same government mounted intense pressure on AGL to postpone the scheduled closure of its Liddell plant. AGL didn't blink and the closure began on schedule last April. The replacement mix of renewables, storage and gas peakers will save $23/MWh in generation costs and reduce emissions by 17.6%.

    As Desmond points out, it's all about economics. AGL and the other private generators can do the sums.

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    a Good way to Save on dat electric bill stateside n go green same time is to install a Solar Hot Water Heater for ur home..... up to 80% of some households electric bill are from just da stupid hot water heater if that being an electric hot water heater which Sprout is Augh !!!

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    Every One will Catch da Corona19 Virus, May God Help Us All
    You just can't reason with da BA.2.12.1 type Corona19 Virus...... IT DON'T CARE !!!1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    The lack of incentive is driven by the economics. Coal costs more, especially when you have to factor in the maintenance costs. It's not worth doing.
    But China and India find it worthwhile to build more coal plants, and use Australian coal. And Germany takes 'bitter' decision to fire up coal power plants as Russia chokes off its vital natural gas supplies.

    I like alternatives to fossil fuels, especially nuclear and hydro. But let's make sure they are constant and intense enough before we get rid of fossil fuels.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Coalition’s $1 billion energy promise fails to power up

    A federal policy to spend $1 billion on new energy projects has failed to add any power to the national electricity market more than three years after the Coalition unveiled the plan with a promise to fix supply shortages and ease pressure on prices.

    None of the money has been spent on the 12 projects named in March 2019 when then-prime minister Scott Morrison unveiled a program to support six hydropower schemes, five gas projects and one coal-fired power station upgrade. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    But China and India find it worthwhile to build more coal plants, and use Australian coal. ...
    China stopped buying Australian coal two years ago

    China needs more coal to avert a power crisis — but it’s not likely to turn to Australia for supply

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Far from any government-forced closures, we've just had nine years of coalition government desperately trying to prop up coal, even mooting new coal-fired power stations at taxpayer expense.

    The same government mounted intense pressure on AGL to postpone the scheduled closure of its Liddell plant. AGL didn't blink and the closure began on schedule last April. The replacement mix of renewables, storage and gas peakers will save $23/MWh in generation costs and reduce emissions by 17.6%.

    As Desmond points out, it's all about economics. AGL and the other private generators can do the sums.
    So if its all about economicis - why promote the ''green energy'' - let the market forces rule!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    So if its all about economicis - why promote the ''green energy'' - let the market forces rule!
    It's market forces pushing the private generators to close their coal-fired power plants early and switch to renewables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    So if its all about economicis - why promote the ''green energy'' - let the market forces rule!
    Coal and oil are heavily subsidised by the government, so government support of renewables is just levelling the playing field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Paying coal and gas plants to supply back-up energy a ‘retrograde step’, Clean Energy Council says

    It’s the wrong policy debate at the wrong time,’ industry says of capacity mechanism ...

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    https://www.skynews.com.au/australia...BjIZFP0mUVu-iI

    Police has to spend resources on those clowns.

    Also, when driving a car - you need to be prepared to get out of the car to clear the road from garbage of all sorts... https://www.skynews.com.au/australia...ca91bf030c9d4a

    And last but not least https://www.theguardian.com/australi...harbour-tunnel

    NSW Deputy-Premiers suggestion is in unison with something I have been advocating for a long time - those who get engaged in unlawful protests while on unemployment benefits - should lose the benefits.

    All in all, it is rather amazing how many resources are being wasted ...
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    Blockade a city and open the door to the right: zealots do Dutton a favour

    The return of a Coalition government in 2025 is a long shot, whether under Peter Dutton or anyone else. But oppositions have come roaring back to government after a defeat, especially the Coalition.

    And if the unlikely happens and the conservatives are back in Canberra in three years, perhaps historians will see the seeds having been sown in the first six weeks of the Albanese government.

    The Blockade protests have been an exercise in bloodymindedness. Ironically, most of their commuter victims on the Sydney Harbour Bridge during the morning peak are likely to be voters who supported climate-action candidates in North Sydney, Mackellar and Warringah.

    The Blockade spokespeople and their champions repeatedly assert that no social change has happened without disruption and some inconvenience to the populace. That assertion might apply in jurisdictions such as the US and South Africa, but much less so in the social laboratory of the Australian federation since 1901. ...

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