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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Come to think of it, in 1939 no-one had a greater impact on the world than Hitler
    The Time editors clearly thought Stalin had a greater impact on the world than Hitler in 1939 because they made him the 1939 Man of the Year. Hitler was the editors choice in 1938.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Come to think of it, in 1939 no-one had a greater impact on the world than Hitler
    Stalin, Hitler and Greta...Great company!
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    Greta (or rather, her exploiters) really use Greenism to attack the free market

    Greta Thunberg Is the Perfect Hero for an Unserious Time
    David Harsanyi 13 Dec 2019


    Has there ever been a less consequential person picked to be Person of the Year? I doubt it. I mean, Wallis Simpson, 1936's Person of the Year, got King Edward VIII to abdicate the throne. Thunberg can't even get you to abdicate your air-conditioning.

    These days we celebrate vacuous fire and brimstone. "Greta Thunberg"—the idea, not the girl—is a concoction of activists who have increasingly taken to using children as a shield from critical analysis or debate. She's the vessel of the environmentalist's fraudulent apocalypticism-as-argument. Her style is emotion and indignation, histrionics and fantasy. She is a teenager, after all.

    How dare you attack a poor defenseless child who suffers from Asperger syndrome!

    You'll notice that, on one hand, Thunberg's champions demand that the world take her Malthusian crusade seriously, and on the other, they feign indignation when you actually do. The argument that young people, because they will inherit the future, are also best equipped to comprehend it is as puerile as any of Greta's positions.

    Perhaps a better question is this: What kind of parents, editors, producers or U.N. officials would thrust a vulnerable child, with Asperger syndrome, no less, into a complex and contentious debate? I have great sympathy for her. It's her ideological handlers who have stolen her childhood.

    Surely, we should be allowed to consider the positions of Time magazine's 2019 Person of the Year? Because the problem with Greta Thunberg—the idea, not the girl—is that she proposes not only that the people of her native Sweden abandon modernity but that billions of people in Asia and Africa remain in destitution. Greta, unlike many of her ideological allies, does not hide the truth of modern environmentalism. She believes that wealth and economic growth—modernity—are the problem.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    ...the problem with Greta Thunberg—the idea, not the girl—is that she proposes not only that the people of her native Sweden abandon modernity but that billions of people in Asia and Africa remain in destitution. Greta, unlike many of her ideological allies, does not hide the truth of modern environmentalism. She believes that wealth and economic growth—modernity—are the problem.…
    Again the misrepresentation of climate action as a war on progress. The simple fact is that, without climate action, humanity faces a world of devastation. We have to stop polluting the atmosphere with carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases to mitigate against that present and future devastation. Mainly that means to stop burning carbon and hydrocarbons and use the alternatives science has been providing and will provide, as it has been doing for the last 300 years.

    This year in Australia we've seen drought and floods and now catastrophic bushfires, still burning. Six lives, 720 homes, 2.7 million hectares (6.7m acres) lost. The PM saying we can't do anything about it, then belatedly committing a totally-inadequate $11m to bushfire aviation resources, is not good enough anymore.

    And still the government plans to meet its low-ambition Paris emission targets, not by reducing emissions, but by fiddling the books and using leftover credits from the lapsed Kyoyo Protocol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Stalin, Hitler and Greta...Great company!
    Churchill and FDR have also been selected - so Greta is in esteemed company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Churchill and FDR have also been selected - so Greta is in esteemed company.
    Not to mention Mahatma Gandhi, JFK, Martin Luther King Jr, Angela Merkel

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    We should have an environmentalist of the year award - Bob Brown etc.
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