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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Except no-one is calling for his home to be put to the torch. You're overdoing it.
    How will it burn then? Wishing for it to burn? Watching it burn and rejoice? When we see a house burning - shall we see it as disappointing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    How will it burn then? Wishing for it to burn? Watching it burn and rejoice? When we see a house burning - shall we see it as disappointing?
    It's what's known in English as a figure of speech. There are actually no mobs storming The Shire carrying flaming torches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    If this is true blue Australian style I must be un-Australian. I would first say hello and only afterwards express my concerns about the governments' handling of the case. Imagine for a moment - the PM would ''greet'' him the same way..this would be the end of his political career.
    This is the PM who brandished a lump of coal in the Parliament, and dismissed suggestions that firefighters might need some help, saying they're 'doing what they want to do'. And then in panic mode announces deployment of the ADF Reserve without even consulting with fire and emergency services.

    And he wonders why firies won't shake his hand, and give him a serve on the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    This is the PM who brandished a lump of coal in the Parliament, and dismissed suggestions that firefighters might need some help, saying they're 'doing what they want to do'. And then in panic mode announces deployment of the ADF Reserve without even consulting with fire and emergency services.

    And he wonders why firies won't shake his hand, and give him a serve on the media.
    If the firey were a woman, he might forcefully grab the hand, give it an unrequited shake and later claim to have had a conversation.

    Hands up anyone who's surprised to see Mickey from Marketing defending Scotty from Marketing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    This is the PM who brandished a lump of coal in the Parliament, and dismissed suggestions that firefighters might need some help, saying they're 'doing what they want to do'. And then in panic mode announces deployment of the ADF Reserve without even consulting with fire and emergency services.

    And he wonders why firies won't shake his hand, and give him a serve on the media.
    So if I disagree with The labor party and what it does, is that how I am supposed to talk to them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    I was expecting a technical answer here that would make IM mouth water.
    1.21 gigawatts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    So if I disagree with The labor party and what it does, is that how I am supposed to talk to them?
    First its leader would need to deeply offend you

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    https://www.facebook.com/SkyNewsAust...DA5NDE0NTgzNw/

    Very good explanations of what all these climate protests are all about: Nothing but desire of the Left to undermine capitalism and market economy
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/SkyNewsAust...DA5NDE0NTgzNw/

    Very good explanations of what all these climate protests are all about: Nothing but desire of the Left to undermine capitalism and market economy
    Ah yes, climate change is just a great leftist conspiracy. That's why Marge Thatcher was a flag bearer:

    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/SkyNewsAust...DA5NDE0NTgzNw/

    Very good explanations of what all these climate protests are all about: Nothing but desire of the Left to undermine capitalism and market economy
    Say Murdoch and govt mouthpieces on Sky News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Ah yes, climate change is just a great leftist conspiracy. That's why Marge Thatcher was a flag bearer:

    She wanted to replace fossil fuel electrical generation with nuclear. Do any of the greenies?
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    She wanted to replace fossil fuel electrical generation with nuclear. Do any of the greenies?
    Nuclear power is only viable in Australia with massive government subsidies - I can see why you're so fond of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    She wanted to replace fossil fuel electrical generation with nuclear. Do any of the greenies?
    Hard to talk solutions with people who deny there is a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    She wanted to replace fossil fuel electrical generation with nuclear. Do any of the greenies?
    Replacing 19th century technology with 20th century. Now in the 21st, we have cheap emissions-free free-fuel technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    She wanted to replace fossil fuel electrical generation with nuclear. Do any of the greenies?
    A simple question to ask but as always in life it’s a bit more complicated than that. From a book review of “The Fall and Rise of Nuclear Power in Britain”

    Simon Taylor, a Cambridge academic and former investment banker, shows in his hard-hitting and authoritative The Fall and Rise of Nuclear Power in Britain, politics rather than economics has dominated this story. When the Thatcher government took office in 1979 it was initially pro-nuclear, partly because, as Nigel Lawson wrote later, nuclear power provided “the means of emancipation from Arthur Scargill” — an alternative source of electricity if Scargill’s mineworkers union halted the supply of coal to power stations, as it had done under a previous Conservative government. This argument became less relevant after Scargill’s defeat in the 1984-1985 miners’ strike.

    When the government set about privatising the electricity industry at the end of the 1980s, it had to provide investors with full details of all the costs associated with the nuclear stations, including waste disposal. This exercise revealed that the state-owned nuclear industry, castigated by Taylor for “secrecy, deceptiveness and sheer incompetence”, had hidden the true costs of nuclear power over many years; the CEGB, he writes, “had decided nuclear was the future and had fixed and distorted the numbers to make it seem viable”. Decommissioning costs, in particular, had been vastly underestimated, although no one really knew what the actual costs would be. In the light of these uncertainties the government withdrew the nuclear stations from the privatisation.


    And the problems remain to this day despite the UK government offering an eye wateringly generous £75/MWh for 35 years the private sector still will not commit to build new plants in the UK https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/A...ffered-Hitachi

    Japan’s Hitachi said it will halt work on its UK subsidiary's plan to build two new nuclear power plants "from the viewpoint of its economic rationality as a private enterprise". It added, however, that "further time is needed to develop a financial structure" for the Horizon project.

    Finally, a nice quote from John Gummer who presumably would have known Thatcher’s views better than most https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...change-deniers

    Conservatives cannot properly be climate deniers. At the heart of their political stance is a desire to hand on something better to the future than they have received from the past. Now that climate science is so clear, a recognition of the duty to act to protect the next generation follows naturally
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